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https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-3486
https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-3486
01 Aug 2025
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Toward less subjective metrics for quantifying the shape and organization of clouds

Thomas D. DeWitt, Timothy J. Garrett, and Karlie N. Rees

Abstract. As clouds sizes and shapes become better resolved by numerical climate models, objective metrics are required to evaluate whether simulations satisfactorily reflect observations. However, even the most recent cloud classification schemes rely on quite subjectively defined visual categories that lack any direct connection to the underlying physics. The fractal dimension of cloud fields has been used to provide a more objective footing. But, as we describe here, there are a wide range of largely unrecognized subtleties to such analyses that must be considered prior to obtaining meaningfully quantitative results. Methods are described for calculating two distinct types of fractal dimension: an individual fractal dimension Di representing the roughness of individual cloud edges, and an ensemble fractal dimension De characterizing how cloud fields organize hierarchically across spatial scales. Both have the advantage that they can be linked to physical symmetry principles, but De is argued to be better suited for observational validation of simulated collections of clouds, particularly when it is calculated using a straightforward correlation integral method. A remaining challenge is an observed sensitivity of calculated values of De to subjective choices of the reflectivity threshold used to distinguish clouds from clear skies. We advocate that, in the interests of maximizing objectivity, future work should consider treating cloud ensembles as continuous reflectivity fields rather than collections of discrete objects.

Competing interests: At least one of the (co-)authors is a member of the editorial board of Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics. The peer-review process was guided by an independent editor, and the authors also have no other competing interests to declare.

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22 May 2026
Toward less subjective metrics for quantifying the shape and organization of clouds
Thomas D. DeWitt, Timothy J. Garrett, and Karlie N. Rees
Atmos. Chem. Phys., 26, 6951–6971, https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-26-6951-2026,https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-26-6951-2026, 2026
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Thomas D. DeWitt, Timothy J. Garrett, and Karlie N. Rees

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  • RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3486', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 Oct 2025
  • RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3486', Anonymous Referee #2, 20 Dec 2025
  • AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3486', Thomas DeWitt, 28 Jan 2026

Interactive discussion

Status: closed

Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor | : Report abuse
  • RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3486', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 Oct 2025
  • RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3486', Anonymous Referee #2, 20 Dec 2025
  • AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3486', Thomas DeWitt, 28 Jan 2026

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AR – Author's response | RR – Referee report | ED – Editor decision | EF – Editorial file upload
AR by Thomas DeWitt on behalf of the Authors (28 Jan 2026)  Author's response   Author's tracked changes   Manuscript 
ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (30 Jan 2026) by Thijs Heus
RR by Anonymous Referee #2 (01 Feb 2026)
RR by Anonymous Referee #1 (20 Feb 2026)
ED: Reconsider after major revisions (23 Feb 2026) by Thijs Heus
AR by Thomas DeWitt on behalf of the Authors (25 Mar 2026)  Author's response   Author's tracked changes   Manuscript 
ED: Publish as is (20 Apr 2026) by Thijs Heus
AR by Thomas DeWitt on behalf of the Authors (01 May 2026)  Manuscript 

Journal article(s) based on this preprint

22 May 2026
Toward less subjective metrics for quantifying the shape and organization of clouds
Thomas D. DeWitt, Timothy J. Garrett, and Karlie N. Rees
Atmos. Chem. Phys., 26, 6951–6971, https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-26-6951-2026,https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-26-6951-2026, 2026
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Thomas D. DeWitt, Timothy J. Garrett, and Karlie N. Rees

Data sets

Reproducibility code for "Toward less subjective metrics for quantifying the shape and organization of clouds" Thomas D. DeWitt https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.15844057

Model code and software

objscale: Object-based analysis functions for fractal dimensions and size distributions Thomas D. DeWitt https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.16114656

Thomas D. DeWitt, Timothy J. Garrett, and Karlie N. Rees

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Clouds appear chaotic, but they in fact follow fractal mathematical patterns similar to coastlines. We measured their fractal properties using satellite images and found two key numbers that describe cloud shapes: one for how rough individual cloud edges are, and another for how clouds of different sizes organize together. We recommend methodology that provides objective ways to verify whether climate models accurately simulate real clouds.
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