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Technical Note: Multi-year Changes in the Brewer-Dobson Circulation from HALOE Methane
Abstract. This study makes use of Halogen Occultation Experiment (HALOE) methane (CH4) in a search for multi-year changes in the Brewer-Dobson Circulation (BDC). Changes in CH4 are determined for three, successive 5-yr time spans from 1992 to 2005, and there are significant differences in them. There is a clear separation for the changes in the northern hemisphere near 30 hPa or at the transition of the shallow and deep branches of the BDC. The CH4 changes were positive and large in the shallow branch following the eruption of Pinatubo, but they then decreased and agreed with tropospheric trends in the late 1990s and early 2000s. CH4 decreased in the upper part of the deep branch from 1992 to 1997 or following the eruption of Pinatubo. CH4 continued to decrease in the deep branch in the late 1990s but then increased in the early 2000s, although the changes were small compared with the seasonal and interannual variations of CH4. Those multi-year changes were due, in part, to wave forcings during El Nino Southern Oscillation (ENSO) of 1997–1998 and beyond and to episodic, sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) events during both time spans. It is concluded that time series of HALOE CH4 provide effective tracer diagnostics for studies of the nature of the BDC from 1992 to 2005.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2211', Anonymous Referee #1, 01 Nov 2023
This study investigates variability in stratospheric CH4 as measured by HALOE during the 1992-2005 time period. This is a follow up to a previous study on this topic by the same author. The trends over three 5-year periods are found by multiple linear regression with the expected terms included to account for stratospheric variability.  The focus on 5-year periods rather than the entire 13-year period as in the author’s previous paper is understandable due to the variability in the 5-year trends. Reexamination of available measurement data of this kind to try to infer more information is useful and important.Â
While I support this study and applaud the brevity, the discussion of the trends is confusing and needs some rewriting before publication. I have listed some specific instances below where I was unclear about the discussion and I would suggest that at least these points be addressed. But I would also encourage the author to review all of Section 3 for clarity and consistency. The summary section is written clearly so that does help get the main points across in the end.
Specific comments
Line 77: The 5-year time span chosen to evaluate trends likely doesn’t eliminate all bias due to the QBO since the QBO has a variable period that is almost never exactly 2.5 years at all latitudes and altitudes. How different would Figures 3-5 look if you started the time series in June or August? Your only mention of this is in lines 187-9.  Related to this, it would be helpful to show the statistical significance of the trends in Figures 3-5.
Lines 108-112: I don’t understand the reasoning here. The trends are negative throughout the upper stratosphere during this period and you state that the ‘ascent within the deep branch of the BDC occurred mainly in the northern subtropics’ where the trends are most negative. Ascent will bring relatively large mixing ratios to essentially any region of the stratosphere as shown by Figure 2. You actually state this further down in lines 131-132 when referring to the lower stratosphere. And then further down in lines 142-3 you state that the ‘negative changes in CH4 in upper regions of Fig. 3 imply that there was a slowdown in the deep branch of the BDC.’  This is what I would conclude as well but doesn’t seem consistent with the earlier statements. Some clarification is necessary.
Lines 128-9: Wouldn’t it be easier to infer BDC changes if you removed the tropospheric growth rate before doing the MLR analysis? If you had a period with no BDC changes there would still be CH4 trends in the stratosphere due to the tropospheric growth rate.Â
Lines 140-1: Positive trends in the tropical lower stratosphere should indicate stronger upwelling and yet you say they indicate a reduced tropical upwelling. Again, some clarification is necessary.
Lines 151-3: Here you state that the SSWs led to greater ascent of CH4 in the tropical upper stratosphere where it was chemically destroyed leading to negative trends. Whereas, in the next section (Lines 183-6) you state that the SSWs in the later period ‘accelerates the deep branch of the BDC bringing more CH4 to high altitudes’ resulting in a positive trend. These seem to be inconsistent statements. Â
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2211-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Ellis Remsberg, 07 Nov 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-2211/egusphere-2023-2211-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Ellis Remsberg, 07 Nov 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2211', Anonymous Referee #2, 12 Nov 2023
This technical note uses methane (CH4) profile data from the Halogen Occultation Experiment (HALOE) to diagnose changes in the Brewer-Dobson Circulation (BDC). The author analyzes CH4 trends for three 5-year time spans from 1992 to 2005 and finds significant changes in CH4 trends, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere (NH) near 30 hPa, which is a transition layer between the shallow and deep branches of the BDC.
The author finds that CH4 changes were positive and large in the shallow branch following the eruption of Mount Pinatubo, but they then decreased and agreed with tropospheric trends in the late 1990s and early 2000s. In the upper part of the deep branch, CH4 decreased from 1992 to 1997, following the Pinatubo eruption. CH4 continued to decrease in the deep branch in the late 1990s, but then increased in the early 2000s, although the changes were small compared with the seasonal and interannual variations of CH4.
The author concludes that these multi-year changes in CH4 trends were due, in part, to wave forcings during the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO) of 1997-1998 and beyond, and to episodic sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) events during both time spans. The author also concludes that time series of HALOE CH4 provide effective tracer diagnostics for studies of the nature of the BDC from 1992 to 2005.
Overall, this is a well-written and informative manuscript. I recommend it for publication, with the following suggestions:
1. Limitations of using multi-variate regression model to detect short-term trends
The author should highlight the limitations of using a multivariate regression model to detect short-term trends in CH4. A major limitation is that multivariate regression models can be sensitive to the choice of explanatory variables and the model structure. Additionally, short-term trends can be difficult to distinguish from interannual variability. Authors should also mention that overall tropsopheric CH4 trends are non-linear (hiatus and then rapid increase).
2. Role of OH chemistry in CH4 loss
The author should discuss the role of OH chemistry in controlling CH4 loss rates. Changes in OH concentrations can have a significant impact on CH4 trends. For example, the eruption of Mount Pinatubo injected sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, which led to the formation of sulfuric acid aerosols altering OH concentrations (e.g Branda et al., 2014). Authors should also discuss importance of this pathway.
Bândă et al.,  (2015), The effect of stratospheric sulfur from Mount Pinatubo on tropospheric oxidizing capacity and methane, J. Geophys. Res. Atmos., 120, 1202–1220, doi:10.1002/2014JD022137.
3. Comparison with gap-free data
The author could compare the results from the raw HALOE data with the gap-free stratospheric CH4 profile data constructed by Dhomse and Chipperfield (2023). This comparison would provide additional insights into the accuracy and reliability of the results.Dhomse Sandip S. (2022). TCOM-CH4: TOMCAT CTM and Occultation Measurements based daily zonal stratospheric methane profile dataset [1991-2021] constructed using machine-learning (1.0) [Data set]. Zenodo. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.7293740
Minor comments:Line 147: Change "July 1996" to "July 1997".
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2211-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Ellis Remsberg, 14 Nov 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-2211/egusphere-2023-2211-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Ellis Remsberg, 14 Nov 2023
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Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2211', Anonymous Referee #1, 01 Nov 2023
This study investigates variability in stratospheric CH4 as measured by HALOE during the 1992-2005 time period. This is a follow up to a previous study on this topic by the same author. The trends over three 5-year periods are found by multiple linear regression with the expected terms included to account for stratospheric variability.  The focus on 5-year periods rather than the entire 13-year period as in the author’s previous paper is understandable due to the variability in the 5-year trends. Reexamination of available measurement data of this kind to try to infer more information is useful and important.Â
While I support this study and applaud the brevity, the discussion of the trends is confusing and needs some rewriting before publication. I have listed some specific instances below where I was unclear about the discussion and I would suggest that at least these points be addressed. But I would also encourage the author to review all of Section 3 for clarity and consistency. The summary section is written clearly so that does help get the main points across in the end.
Specific comments
Line 77: The 5-year time span chosen to evaluate trends likely doesn’t eliminate all bias due to the QBO since the QBO has a variable period that is almost never exactly 2.5 years at all latitudes and altitudes. How different would Figures 3-5 look if you started the time series in June or August? Your only mention of this is in lines 187-9.  Related to this, it would be helpful to show the statistical significance of the trends in Figures 3-5.
Lines 108-112: I don’t understand the reasoning here. The trends are negative throughout the upper stratosphere during this period and you state that the ‘ascent within the deep branch of the BDC occurred mainly in the northern subtropics’ where the trends are most negative. Ascent will bring relatively large mixing ratios to essentially any region of the stratosphere as shown by Figure 2. You actually state this further down in lines 131-132 when referring to the lower stratosphere. And then further down in lines 142-3 you state that the ‘negative changes in CH4 in upper regions of Fig. 3 imply that there was a slowdown in the deep branch of the BDC.’  This is what I would conclude as well but doesn’t seem consistent with the earlier statements. Some clarification is necessary.
Lines 128-9: Wouldn’t it be easier to infer BDC changes if you removed the tropospheric growth rate before doing the MLR analysis? If you had a period with no BDC changes there would still be CH4 trends in the stratosphere due to the tropospheric growth rate.Â
Lines 140-1: Positive trends in the tropical lower stratosphere should indicate stronger upwelling and yet you say they indicate a reduced tropical upwelling. Again, some clarification is necessary.
Lines 151-3: Here you state that the SSWs led to greater ascent of CH4 in the tropical upper stratosphere where it was chemically destroyed leading to negative trends. Whereas, in the next section (Lines 183-6) you state that the SSWs in the later period ‘accelerates the deep branch of the BDC bringing more CH4 to high altitudes’ resulting in a positive trend. These seem to be inconsistent statements. Â
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2211-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Ellis Remsberg, 07 Nov 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-2211/egusphere-2023-2211-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Ellis Remsberg, 07 Nov 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2211', Anonymous Referee #2, 12 Nov 2023
This technical note uses methane (CH4) profile data from the Halogen Occultation Experiment (HALOE) to diagnose changes in the Brewer-Dobson Circulation (BDC). The author analyzes CH4 trends for three 5-year time spans from 1992 to 2005 and finds significant changes in CH4 trends, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere (NH) near 30 hPa, which is a transition layer between the shallow and deep branches of the BDC.
The author finds that CH4 changes were positive and large in the shallow branch following the eruption of Mount Pinatubo, but they then decreased and agreed with tropospheric trends in the late 1990s and early 2000s. In the upper part of the deep branch, CH4 decreased from 1992 to 1997, following the Pinatubo eruption. CH4 continued to decrease in the deep branch in the late 1990s, but then increased in the early 2000s, although the changes were small compared with the seasonal and interannual variations of CH4.
The author concludes that these multi-year changes in CH4 trends were due, in part, to wave forcings during the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO) of 1997-1998 and beyond, and to episodic sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) events during both time spans. The author also concludes that time series of HALOE CH4 provide effective tracer diagnostics for studies of the nature of the BDC from 1992 to 2005.
Overall, this is a well-written and informative manuscript. I recommend it for publication, with the following suggestions:
1. Limitations of using multi-variate regression model to detect short-term trends
The author should highlight the limitations of using a multivariate regression model to detect short-term trends in CH4. A major limitation is that multivariate regression models can be sensitive to the choice of explanatory variables and the model structure. Additionally, short-term trends can be difficult to distinguish from interannual variability. Authors should also mention that overall tropsopheric CH4 trends are non-linear (hiatus and then rapid increase).
2. Role of OH chemistry in CH4 loss
The author should discuss the role of OH chemistry in controlling CH4 loss rates. Changes in OH concentrations can have a significant impact on CH4 trends. For example, the eruption of Mount Pinatubo injected sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, which led to the formation of sulfuric acid aerosols altering OH concentrations (e.g Branda et al., 2014). Authors should also discuss importance of this pathway.
Bândă et al.,  (2015), The effect of stratospheric sulfur from Mount Pinatubo on tropospheric oxidizing capacity and methane, J. Geophys. Res. Atmos., 120, 1202–1220, doi:10.1002/2014JD022137.
3. Comparison with gap-free data
The author could compare the results from the raw HALOE data with the gap-free stratospheric CH4 profile data constructed by Dhomse and Chipperfield (2023). This comparison would provide additional insights into the accuracy and reliability of the results.Dhomse Sandip S. (2022). TCOM-CH4: TOMCAT CTM and Occultation Measurements based daily zonal stratospheric methane profile dataset [1991-2021] constructed using machine-learning (1.0) [Data set]. Zenodo. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.7293740
Minor comments:Line 147: Change "July 1996" to "July 1997".
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2211-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Ellis Remsberg, 14 Nov 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-2211/egusphere-2023-2211-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Ellis Remsberg, 14 Nov 2023
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