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Observation-based estimates of volume, heat and freshwater exchanges between the subpolar North Atlantic interior, its boundary currents and the atmosphere
Abstract. The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) transports heat and salt between the tropical Atlantic and Arctic oceans. The interior of the North Atlantic Subpolar Gyre (SPG) is responsible for the much of the water mass transformation in the AMOC, and the export of this water to intensified boundary currents is crucial for projecting air-sea interaction onto the strength of the AMOC. However, the magnitude and location of exchange between the SPG and the boundary remains unclear.
We present a novel climatology of the SPG boundary using quality controlled CTD and Argo hydrography. We define the SPG as the oceanic region bounded by 47° N and the 1000 m isobath. From this hydrography we compute geostrophic currents referenced to altimetry across the SPG boundary.
Water density generally increases moving counter-clockwise from Biscay, leading to geostrophic flow out of the SPG around much of the boundary with minimal seasonality. An exception is the West Greenland Current region, where the density gradient is reversed, with a corresponding reversal in flow into the interior. Across the southern boundery at 47° N, geostrophic flow is generally into the SPG above 1000 m. In contrast the surface Ekman forcing drives net flow out of the SPG in all seasons with pronounced seasonality, varying between 2.45 ± 0.73 Sv in the summer and 7.70 ± 2.90 Sv in the winter. We estimate heat advected into the SPG to be between 0.14 ± 0.05 PW in the winter and 0.23 ± 0.05 PW in the spring, and freshwater advected out of the SPG to be between 0.07 ± 0.02 Sv in the summer and 0.15 ± 0.02 Sv in the autumn. These estimates approximately balance the surface heat and freshwater fluxes over the SPG domain.
Overturning in the SPG varies seasonally, with a minimum of 6.20 ± 1.40 Sv in the autumn and a maximum of 10.17 ± 1.91 Sv in the spring. The primary density of maximum overturning is at 27.30 kgm-3, with a secondary, smaller maximum at 27.54 kgm-3. Upper waters (σ0 < 27.30 kgm-3) are transformed in the interior then exported as either intermediate water (27.30–27.54 kgm-3) in the NAC or as dense water (σ0 > 27.54 kgm-3) exiting to the south. Our results support the present consensus that the formation and pre-conditioning of subpolar Mode Water in the north-eastern Atlantic is a key driver and modulator of AMOC strength.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-472', Anonymous Referee #1, 09 Aug 2022
Please see the document CommentsToAuthors.pdf
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Sam Jones, 28 Oct 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-472', Anonymous Referee #2, 05 Sep 2022
Review of Jones et al., “Observation-based estimates of volume, heat and freshwater exchanges between the subpolar North Atlantic interior, its boundary currents and the atmosphere”.
This paper creates a novel climatology of the subpolar North Atlantic around the 1000 m isobath and across 47N and discusses properties and fluxes across and with this region. The techniques used are interesting and the climatology looks great. I have researvations about the use of EN4 at 47 N that I think could be investigated further. I think the discussion and observations are good and interesting.
My major comment on the paper is that it could be much more focused. The introduction covers much more material than the results address. The question that the climatology and calculations are addressing could be framed much more succinctly. Likewise in the discussion and conclusions, there needs to be a closing of the loop back. E.g. the discussion around Fig. 12 was very interesting but I wasn’t sure what question this was addressing.
I have a long list but these are minor comments, the only major comment is a tightening up of the framing of the results.
Minor comments:
Why were Argo velocities not used? The dataset seems dominated by Argo Fig 2b
I think the abstract is too long and could be shortened to 2 paragraphs. Too much intro material in paragraph 3 of the abstract especially.
L32. This definition of the AMOC is not correct: the AMOC (uniquely) transports heat across the tropics from the South Atlantic
L53, no need to complicate with the drifter results
L58, canonical -> generally accepted
L64, to the mean what? This line throws the paragraph out. If you’re considering processes north of GSR, then your first sentence should consider these also i.e. GSR overflows + entrainment in addition to Lab Sea processes are fundamental to AMOC functioning.
L67, ‘they’ is ambiguous here. I presume you mean Lab Sea density anomalies?
L70, don’t see why you’re bringing in subpolar mode water
L78, add ‘in the eastern basin’
The introduction is very general. It should be more focused to frame this study rather than a general subpolar gyre introduction.
Fig. 2. Radon transform for analysis of propagation speeds in Fig. 2. Not much data prior to 2008. Higher propagation speeds upstream of FSC. Propagation speeds are only relevant for the Argo data, not the CTD data (unless you’re telling us about the speed of the ship). Can ship CTD data be removed from Fig. 2b.
L144. What is the justification for using a much longer search radius in the along bathymetry direction than cross bathymetry, limited to 75 km?
L160. It’s not so surprising that EN4 and Argo agree closely as the Argo profiles are in EN4. Did you compare with a ship hydrographic section? Are the (complex) fronts and current meanders across this section captured in EN4?
L174. A sensible constraint. What was the reference velocity and how much transport does it amount to in total? Please state in the paper.
L178. The ADT requires an estimate of the geoid, which can be uncertain in the open ocean. How much do your results depend on the mean dynamic topography?
L190, could I suggest using l or s instead of x for your along contour co-ordinate. X is very frequently used to mean zonal direction.
L195, define Q, v in equation. Suggest using Qv to match later equations.
L230, did the volume conservation constraint applied in the observations work in the Viking model?
L282, I don’t find the overbar helpful notation
L295, counter-clockwise -> cyclonic
Fig4: fabulous figure. Please add colorbars.
L297. I think ‘negative’ deserves more explanation: it means going to a higher density in a cyclonic direction?
Fig 5a. I’m not sure about arrows here. The arrows don’t point in the direction of the current. They’re constrained to be perpendicular to your section.
L346. Do you mean Goban Spur or the Porcupine Bank? It looks bigger than GS to me.
L357. I’m struggling with export and a negative number in one line. ‘Export of 12 Sv’ or ‘transport of -12Sv’?
Fig. 6a is hard to read the arrows.
Really interesting breakdown of Ekman component. Why not the same colours for the geostrophic? Fig 5a?
Fig. 7. I like this a lot. Very convincing.
Section 3.4. I need more context here. This overturning is different from say the OSNAP estimate as it’s overturning around a closed contour around the subpolar gyre. Could you add the OSNAP mean to Fig. 9 for context? The overturning in this calculation occurs at a lighter density seems to be the key difference (OSNAP 27.5-27.7, here 27.3). As this is a very OSNAP inspired paper—could you break the streamfunctions into an analogue of OSNAP east and OSNAP west?
Similarly, I would suggest adding OSNAP estimates of heat + fw flux to Fig. 10. You get half the heat flux and ¼ of the fwater flux of OSNAP.
L585. I don’t agree that’s what you’re doing! Specifically you’ve calculate the flux across the 1000m isobath + 47 N. I think you need to say that you’ve built in a definition of interior and exterior at least.
For the discussion, a visual summary would be very useful. It’s hard to keep all the numbers in mind.
I like Fig. 12 and the discussion that goes with it.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-472-RC2 - AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Sam Jones, 28 Oct 2022
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-472', Karen J. Heywood, 02 Nov 2022
Thanks for your responses to the reviewers' suggestions. I look forward to receiving your revised paper.
Karen
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-472-EC1
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Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-472', Anonymous Referee #1, 09 Aug 2022
Please see the document CommentsToAuthors.pdf
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Sam Jones, 28 Oct 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-472', Anonymous Referee #2, 05 Sep 2022
Review of Jones et al., “Observation-based estimates of volume, heat and freshwater exchanges between the subpolar North Atlantic interior, its boundary currents and the atmosphere”.
This paper creates a novel climatology of the subpolar North Atlantic around the 1000 m isobath and across 47N and discusses properties and fluxes across and with this region. The techniques used are interesting and the climatology looks great. I have researvations about the use of EN4 at 47 N that I think could be investigated further. I think the discussion and observations are good and interesting.
My major comment on the paper is that it could be much more focused. The introduction covers much more material than the results address. The question that the climatology and calculations are addressing could be framed much more succinctly. Likewise in the discussion and conclusions, there needs to be a closing of the loop back. E.g. the discussion around Fig. 12 was very interesting but I wasn’t sure what question this was addressing.
I have a long list but these are minor comments, the only major comment is a tightening up of the framing of the results.
Minor comments:
Why were Argo velocities not used? The dataset seems dominated by Argo Fig 2b
I think the abstract is too long and could be shortened to 2 paragraphs. Too much intro material in paragraph 3 of the abstract especially.
L32. This definition of the AMOC is not correct: the AMOC (uniquely) transports heat across the tropics from the South Atlantic
L53, no need to complicate with the drifter results
L58, canonical -> generally accepted
L64, to the mean what? This line throws the paragraph out. If you’re considering processes north of GSR, then your first sentence should consider these also i.e. GSR overflows + entrainment in addition to Lab Sea processes are fundamental to AMOC functioning.
L67, ‘they’ is ambiguous here. I presume you mean Lab Sea density anomalies?
L70, don’t see why you’re bringing in subpolar mode water
L78, add ‘in the eastern basin’
The introduction is very general. It should be more focused to frame this study rather than a general subpolar gyre introduction.
Fig. 2. Radon transform for analysis of propagation speeds in Fig. 2. Not much data prior to 2008. Higher propagation speeds upstream of FSC. Propagation speeds are only relevant for the Argo data, not the CTD data (unless you’re telling us about the speed of the ship). Can ship CTD data be removed from Fig. 2b.
L144. What is the justification for using a much longer search radius in the along bathymetry direction than cross bathymetry, limited to 75 km?
L160. It’s not so surprising that EN4 and Argo agree closely as the Argo profiles are in EN4. Did you compare with a ship hydrographic section? Are the (complex) fronts and current meanders across this section captured in EN4?
L174. A sensible constraint. What was the reference velocity and how much transport does it amount to in total? Please state in the paper.
L178. The ADT requires an estimate of the geoid, which can be uncertain in the open ocean. How much do your results depend on the mean dynamic topography?
L190, could I suggest using l or s instead of x for your along contour co-ordinate. X is very frequently used to mean zonal direction.
L195, define Q, v in equation. Suggest using Qv to match later equations.
L230, did the volume conservation constraint applied in the observations work in the Viking model?
L282, I don’t find the overbar helpful notation
L295, counter-clockwise -> cyclonic
Fig4: fabulous figure. Please add colorbars.
L297. I think ‘negative’ deserves more explanation: it means going to a higher density in a cyclonic direction?
Fig 5a. I’m not sure about arrows here. The arrows don’t point in the direction of the current. They’re constrained to be perpendicular to your section.
L346. Do you mean Goban Spur or the Porcupine Bank? It looks bigger than GS to me.
L357. I’m struggling with export and a negative number in one line. ‘Export of 12 Sv’ or ‘transport of -12Sv’?
Fig. 6a is hard to read the arrows.
Really interesting breakdown of Ekman component. Why not the same colours for the geostrophic? Fig 5a?
Fig. 7. I like this a lot. Very convincing.
Section 3.4. I need more context here. This overturning is different from say the OSNAP estimate as it’s overturning around a closed contour around the subpolar gyre. Could you add the OSNAP mean to Fig. 9 for context? The overturning in this calculation occurs at a lighter density seems to be the key difference (OSNAP 27.5-27.7, here 27.3). As this is a very OSNAP inspired paper—could you break the streamfunctions into an analogue of OSNAP east and OSNAP west?
Similarly, I would suggest adding OSNAP estimates of heat + fw flux to Fig. 10. You get half the heat flux and ¼ of the fwater flux of OSNAP.
L585. I don’t agree that’s what you’re doing! Specifically you’ve calculate the flux across the 1000m isobath + 47 N. I think you need to say that you’ve built in a definition of interior and exterior at least.
For the discussion, a visual summary would be very useful. It’s hard to keep all the numbers in mind.
I like Fig. 12 and the discussion that goes with it.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-472-RC2 - AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Sam Jones, 28 Oct 2022
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-472', Karen J. Heywood, 02 Nov 2022
Thanks for your responses to the reviewers' suggestions. I look forward to receiving your revised paper.
Karen
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-472-EC1
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