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https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-14
https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-14
29 Jan 2024
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Unravelling Disparities in Eulerian and Lagrangian Moisture Tracking Models in Monsoon- and Westerlies-dominated Basins Around the Tibetan Plateau

Ying Li, Chenghao Wang, Qiuhong Tang, Shibo Yao, Bo Sun, Hui Peng, and Shangbin Xiao

Abstract. Beyond traditional meteorological and (paleo)climatological analyses, numerical moisture tracking provides a quantitative diagnosis of moisture sources to the Tibetan Plateau (TP). While existing studies predominantly employ either the Eulerian or Lagrangian method, the potential differences in their simulations and the underlying causes of these discrepancies remain unexplored. In this study, we compare the applications of the most widely used Eulerian (WAM-2layers) and Lagrangian (FLEXPART-WaterSip) models in the TP, specifically in an Indian Summer Monsoon (ISM)-dominated basin (Yarlung Zangbo River Basin, YB) and a westerlies-dominated basin (upper Tarim River Basin, UTB). Compared to FLEXPART-WaterSip, WAM-2layers generally estimates higher moisture contributions from westerlies-dominated and distant source regions but lower contributions from local recycling. However, WAM-2layers simulations can be improved by using higher spatial-temporal resolution forcing data. The inherent ability in WAM-2layers to distinguish between evaporation and precipitation makes it more effectively in identifying varying moisture contributions arising from distinct surface evaporation sources. In contrast, in regions heavily influenced by smaller-scale convective systems with high spatial heterogeneity, such as the UTB when compared to the YB, simulations from FLEXPART-WaterSip tend to be more reliable. However, FLEXPART-WaterSip is prone to introducing additional errors when using specific humidity information in particles to infer moisture uptake and loss, although it accurately depicts the three-dimensional movement of air particles.

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Journal article(s) based on this preprint

25 Sep 2024
Unraveling the discrepancies between Eulerian and Lagrangian moisture tracking models in monsoon- and westerly-dominated basins of the Tibetan Plateau
Ying Li, Chenghao Wang, Qiuhong Tang, Shibo Yao, Bo Sun, Hui Peng, and Shangbin Xiao
Atmos. Chem. Phys., 24, 10741–10758, https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-24-10741-2024,https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-24-10741-2024, 2024
Short summary
Ying Li, Chenghao Wang, Qiuhong Tang, Shibo Yao, Bo Sun, Hui Peng, and Shangbin Xiao

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Status: closed

Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor | : Report abuse
  • RC1: 'Review: "more careful conclusions needed and a call for open science"', Ruud van der Ent, 28 Feb 2024
    • AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Ying Li, 18 Apr 2024
  • RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-14', Harald Sodemann, 09 Mar 2024
    • AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Ying Li, 18 Apr 2024

Interactive discussion

Status: closed

Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor | : Report abuse
  • RC1: 'Review: "more careful conclusions needed and a call for open science"', Ruud van der Ent, 28 Feb 2024
    • AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Ying Li, 18 Apr 2024
  • RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-14', Harald Sodemann, 09 Mar 2024
    • AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Ying Li, 18 Apr 2024

Peer review completion

AR: Author's response | RR: Referee report | ED: Editor decision | EF: Editorial file upload
AR by Ying Li on behalf of the Authors (30 May 2024)  Author's response   Author's tracked changes   Manuscript 
ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (11 Jun 2024) by Franziska Aemisegger
RR by Ruud van der Ent (03 Jul 2024)
RR by Harald Sodemann (05 Jul 2024)
ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (11 Jul 2024) by Franziska Aemisegger
AR by Ying Li on behalf of the Authors (20 Jul 2024)  Author's response   Author's tracked changes   Manuscript 
ED: Publish as is (03 Aug 2024) by Franziska Aemisegger
AR by Ying Li on behalf of the Authors (07 Aug 2024)

Journal article(s) based on this preprint

25 Sep 2024
Unraveling the discrepancies between Eulerian and Lagrangian moisture tracking models in monsoon- and westerly-dominated basins of the Tibetan Plateau
Ying Li, Chenghao Wang, Qiuhong Tang, Shibo Yao, Bo Sun, Hui Peng, and Shangbin Xiao
Atmos. Chem. Phys., 24, 10741–10758, https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-24-10741-2024,https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-24-10741-2024, 2024
Short summary
Ying Li, Chenghao Wang, Qiuhong Tang, Shibo Yao, Bo Sun, Hui Peng, and Shangbin Xiao
Ying Li, Chenghao Wang, Qiuhong Tang, Shibo Yao, Bo Sun, Hui Peng, and Shangbin Xiao

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This study compare the applications of the most widely used Eulerian (WAM-2layers) and Lagrangian (FLEXPART-WaterSip) models in the Tibetan Plateau. WAM-2layers is more effectively in identifying varying moisture contributions arising from distinct surface evaporation sources, while FLEXPART-WaterSip tend to be more reliable in regions heavily influenced by smaller-scale convective systems with high spatial heterogeneity.