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What drives Fyw variations with elevation in Alpine catchments?
Abstract. The young water fraction (Fyw), defined as the fraction of catchment outflow with transit times of less than about 2–3 months, is increasingly used in hydrological studies, replacing the widely used Mean Transit Time (MTT), which is subject to aggregation error. The use of this new metric in catchment intercomparison studies is helpful to understand and conceptualize the relevant processes controlling catchment’s hydrological function. Past work has shown the remarkable and counterintuitive evidence that steep (and generally high elevation) catchments worldwide reveal small Fyw values. However, the topographic slope only partially explains the observed Fyw variance, and the mechanisms hidden behind this lowering with slope remain basically unclear.
The main aim of this paper is to investigate what drives Fyw variations with elevation in Alpine catchments clarifying why Fyw is low at high altitudes. In this regard, we use a dataset composed of 27 study catchments, located both in Switzerland and in Italy, that we categorize as rainfall-dominated, hybrid or snow-dominated according to a proposed formal classification scheme that considers both a common-used monthly streamflow ratio and the snow cover regime. We analyze three not previously investigated variables that could potentially explain the Fyw elevation gradients: the fractional snow cover area (FSCA), the fraction of quaternary deposits (Fqd), and the fraction of baseflow (Fbf). We also consider a fourth variable, namely the Winter Flow Index (WFI), for comparing our results about the groundwater contribution to streamflow with those of previous scientific publications.
Our results suggest that unconsolidated sediments could play a role in modulating Fyw elevation gradients via their capacity to store groundwater, but further geological information, such as the portion of fractured bedrocks, would be desirable for a complete picture of the role of geology. Based on our analysis concerning the FSCA, we develop a perceptual model that explains how the increasing duration of the snowpack promotes a progressive emptying of the groundwater storage during winter, thereby increasing the streamwater age, while ephemeral snowpack generally favors rapid flow paths that increase Fyw. Finally, our work highlights that Fbf, considered as a proxy for groundwater flow, is roughly the one’s complement of Fyw. In harmony with the model, we find high Fbf during all low-flow periods, which underlines that streamflow is mainly sustained by groundwater in such flow conditions. For catchments where the winter low-flow period is long compared to the summer high-flow period, this results in low Fyw.
In conclusion, our data set suggests that Fbf is the best explanatory variable of Fyw elevation gradients in Alpine catchments, implying the key-role of major groundwater storages that, with the increasing snowpack duration, are actively involved in streamflow generation processes.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-921', Anonymous Referee #1, 11 Oct 2022
Please find my comments in the attached file
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Alessio Gentile, 17 Nov 2022
The work of Gentile et al. investigated the causes for young water fraction (Fyw) variations with elevation (Fyw is low at high altitudes) in Alpine catchments. The study areas are 27 catchments in Switzerland and Italy. The authors proposed new criteria for catchment classification into different hydro-climatic regimes. To gain insight into the reason for Fyw variations with elevation, this author used a new set of hydrological variables, namely the fractional snow cover area (FSCA), the fraction of quaternary deposits (Fqd), and the fraction of baseflow (Fbf). In general, the idea of this paper about what drives Fyw variations with elevations is novel and of interest for understanding the functioning of catchments in Alpine regions as well as for understanding flow and transport in this region and potentially in other areas. However, the methodology and results do not fully support this idea. The text was not well written. Please find my main comments and line-by-line comments below.
Dear referee #1,
We would like to thank you for the overall positive assessment and the numerous detailed comments, which will contribute to our manuscript’s improvement considerably.Please find below a point-by-point response to your main comments. The responses to both your main and minor comments are reported in the Supplement.
We will incorporate all your constructive feedback once we receive the editor’s response.
Sincerely,
The AuthorsMain comments
• Why did the authors need to propose a new criterion for catchment classification? The authors used two variables: (1) streamflow ratio between different months and (2) snow cover fraction for the proposed catchment classification, but later they adjusted the threshold of these two variables to have consistent results with Staudinger et al. (2017). Why didn’t they just use the method of Staudinger et al. (2017)?• We propose a new criterion for the regime classification because our dataset includes catchments outside the Swiss borders (i.e., the four Italian catchments) for which the Weingartner and Aschwanden (1992) and Staudinger et al. (2017) classification scheme cannot be strictly applied since they were designed for the Swiss hydro-climatic regimes. We “manually calibrate” the thresholds of FSCA and QJune/QDJF for classifying catchments in “rainfall-dominated”, “hybrid” and “snow-dominated” as in the work of Staudinger et al. (2017). In this way, the classification scheme is “calibrated” on the Staudinger et al. (2017) catchments and we can apply it also outside the Swiss borders. According to the referees’ comments, we will consider the possibility of modifying the classification scheme to make it more straightforward to link to previous classification (e.g., using streamflow and topographical data), but it will remain transferable to other regions.
• The objective is to investigate what drives Fyw variation with elevation. The authors proposed using a new set of hydrological variables, but what are the relations between these variables with elevation? For example, what are the relations between FSCA, Fqd, Fbf with elevation? With FSCA, I can infer from the text, but it was not explained in the text until the last sections (Section 5.2) of the manuscript. FSCA cannot be directly related to elevation, instead, it needs to be related to the catchment classification then from catchment classification to mean elevation. However, in other areas, can we still relate FSCA to elevation? With the other variables (Fqd and Fbf), it is unclear to me what are their relations to elevations. In addition, Fqd does not seems to be a good variable because there is no significant relation between Fyw and Fqd.• Thank you for this comment: this is a good point. We will add, for each variable (FSCA, Fqd and Fbf), a figure that shows the relation with mean catchments elevation. The three figures are reported in the Supplement, and we will include them in the revised manuscript.
a) The FSCA increases with the mean catchment elevation in our data set, revealing a positive, statistically significant correlation. This suggests the increasing snow cover persistence at high altitudes.
b) Fqd decreases with the mean catchment elevation in our data set, revealing a negative, statistically significant correlation. This negative correlation reflects the fact that Fqd decreases when the mean slope increases (Arnoux et al., 2021) (mean slope increases with mean elevation for the catchments analyzed in this study, as shown in Fig. 4a of the manuscript). We have decided to use Fqd because Arnoux et al. (2021) demonstrated a strong positive correlation between Fqd and Winter Flow Index (WFI) highlighting the role of unconsolidated deposits in storing groundwater (in terms of age, old water). The missing information about the portion of fractured bedrocks, the thickness of quaternary deposits and the bedrock topography will demand future attention for a complete picture of the role of geology (potentially resulting in a statistically significant correlation with Fyw).
c) Fbf reveals an opposite behavior with respect to Fyw: it decreases until 1500 m and it increases at higher elevations.• The manuscript needs to be restructured and revised. There is a lack of clarification in the text. More description of the study area characteristics is needed. Much of the information provided in Study Sites, and Material and Methods is not relevant (e.g., shape file, detailed source of data, etc.). Instead, citing the sources of the various data (both from individuals and organizations) can be moved to either the Authors' Contributions or Acknowledgements, or in the supporting information Sections or to a table rather than describe them within the text of the article, making it very difficult to read such detailed information. If possible, I would also suggest the authors publish their data in an open repository.
• Thank you for these suggestions. We will revise the “Study sites” and “Material and Methods” sections accordingly. We will move all the data sources in the “Data availability” section and remove irrelevant information. We will describe the study sites in a more concise manner using a Table and some descriptive figures: e.g., mean slope against mean elevation, mean annual precipitation and mean annual discharge against mean elevation, variations of mean monthly flow with elevation. These changes should make the text more fluent.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Alessio Gentile, 17 Nov 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-921', Jana von Freyberg, 25 Oct 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-921/egusphere-2022-921-RC2-supplement.pdf
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Alessio Gentile, 01 Dec 2022
Dear Jana von Freyberg,
thank you for your care and attention during your reading of the manuscript, your positive remarks and your comments that will help to improve the work.
Please find in the Supplement the responses to all your comments.
We will take into account all your constructive feedback in the revised version of the manuscript once we receive the editor’s response.
With kind regards,
The Authors
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Alessio Gentile, 01 Dec 2022
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-921', Peter Jansson, 04 Nov 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-921/egusphere-2022-921-CC1-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on CC1', Alessio Gentile, 01 Dec 2022
Dear Peter Jansson and Ryan Teuling,
we would like to thank you for having selected our paper for this class.
The input is highly appreciated and will help to improve our paper. We would like to point out here that we find the review extremely helpful but overly harsh at instances. The wording implies that we made mistakes. While this wording style is omnipresent (unfortunately!), we take the opportunity to call for a change in wording style in scientific reviews. A simple example is the following: “the authors should further stress the relevance of this study” could be reformulated to “the study would gain from a more concise presentation of its relevance”.
Please find in the Supplement a point-by-point response to both your general and specific comments.
With kind regards,
The Authors
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AC2: 'Reply on CC1', Alessio Gentile, 01 Dec 2022
Interactive discussion
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-921', Anonymous Referee #1, 11 Oct 2022
Please find my comments in the attached file
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Alessio Gentile, 17 Nov 2022
The work of Gentile et al. investigated the causes for young water fraction (Fyw) variations with elevation (Fyw is low at high altitudes) in Alpine catchments. The study areas are 27 catchments in Switzerland and Italy. The authors proposed new criteria for catchment classification into different hydro-climatic regimes. To gain insight into the reason for Fyw variations with elevation, this author used a new set of hydrological variables, namely the fractional snow cover area (FSCA), the fraction of quaternary deposits (Fqd), and the fraction of baseflow (Fbf). In general, the idea of this paper about what drives Fyw variations with elevations is novel and of interest for understanding the functioning of catchments in Alpine regions as well as for understanding flow and transport in this region and potentially in other areas. However, the methodology and results do not fully support this idea. The text was not well written. Please find my main comments and line-by-line comments below.
Dear referee #1,
We would like to thank you for the overall positive assessment and the numerous detailed comments, which will contribute to our manuscript’s improvement considerably.Please find below a point-by-point response to your main comments. The responses to both your main and minor comments are reported in the Supplement.
We will incorporate all your constructive feedback once we receive the editor’s response.
Sincerely,
The AuthorsMain comments
• Why did the authors need to propose a new criterion for catchment classification? The authors used two variables: (1) streamflow ratio between different months and (2) snow cover fraction for the proposed catchment classification, but later they adjusted the threshold of these two variables to have consistent results with Staudinger et al. (2017). Why didn’t they just use the method of Staudinger et al. (2017)?• We propose a new criterion for the regime classification because our dataset includes catchments outside the Swiss borders (i.e., the four Italian catchments) for which the Weingartner and Aschwanden (1992) and Staudinger et al. (2017) classification scheme cannot be strictly applied since they were designed for the Swiss hydro-climatic regimes. We “manually calibrate” the thresholds of FSCA and QJune/QDJF for classifying catchments in “rainfall-dominated”, “hybrid” and “snow-dominated” as in the work of Staudinger et al. (2017). In this way, the classification scheme is “calibrated” on the Staudinger et al. (2017) catchments and we can apply it also outside the Swiss borders. According to the referees’ comments, we will consider the possibility of modifying the classification scheme to make it more straightforward to link to previous classification (e.g., using streamflow and topographical data), but it will remain transferable to other regions.
• The objective is to investigate what drives Fyw variation with elevation. The authors proposed using a new set of hydrological variables, but what are the relations between these variables with elevation? For example, what are the relations between FSCA, Fqd, Fbf with elevation? With FSCA, I can infer from the text, but it was not explained in the text until the last sections (Section 5.2) of the manuscript. FSCA cannot be directly related to elevation, instead, it needs to be related to the catchment classification then from catchment classification to mean elevation. However, in other areas, can we still relate FSCA to elevation? With the other variables (Fqd and Fbf), it is unclear to me what are their relations to elevations. In addition, Fqd does not seems to be a good variable because there is no significant relation between Fyw and Fqd.• Thank you for this comment: this is a good point. We will add, for each variable (FSCA, Fqd and Fbf), a figure that shows the relation with mean catchments elevation. The three figures are reported in the Supplement, and we will include them in the revised manuscript.
a) The FSCA increases with the mean catchment elevation in our data set, revealing a positive, statistically significant correlation. This suggests the increasing snow cover persistence at high altitudes.
b) Fqd decreases with the mean catchment elevation in our data set, revealing a negative, statistically significant correlation. This negative correlation reflects the fact that Fqd decreases when the mean slope increases (Arnoux et al., 2021) (mean slope increases with mean elevation for the catchments analyzed in this study, as shown in Fig. 4a of the manuscript). We have decided to use Fqd because Arnoux et al. (2021) demonstrated a strong positive correlation between Fqd and Winter Flow Index (WFI) highlighting the role of unconsolidated deposits in storing groundwater (in terms of age, old water). The missing information about the portion of fractured bedrocks, the thickness of quaternary deposits and the bedrock topography will demand future attention for a complete picture of the role of geology (potentially resulting in a statistically significant correlation with Fyw).
c) Fbf reveals an opposite behavior with respect to Fyw: it decreases until 1500 m and it increases at higher elevations.• The manuscript needs to be restructured and revised. There is a lack of clarification in the text. More description of the study area characteristics is needed. Much of the information provided in Study Sites, and Material and Methods is not relevant (e.g., shape file, detailed source of data, etc.). Instead, citing the sources of the various data (both from individuals and organizations) can be moved to either the Authors' Contributions or Acknowledgements, or in the supporting information Sections or to a table rather than describe them within the text of the article, making it very difficult to read such detailed information. If possible, I would also suggest the authors publish their data in an open repository.
• Thank you for these suggestions. We will revise the “Study sites” and “Material and Methods” sections accordingly. We will move all the data sources in the “Data availability” section and remove irrelevant information. We will describe the study sites in a more concise manner using a Table and some descriptive figures: e.g., mean slope against mean elevation, mean annual precipitation and mean annual discharge against mean elevation, variations of mean monthly flow with elevation. These changes should make the text more fluent.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Alessio Gentile, 17 Nov 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-921', Jana von Freyberg, 25 Oct 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-921/egusphere-2022-921-RC2-supplement.pdf
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Alessio Gentile, 01 Dec 2022
Dear Jana von Freyberg,
thank you for your care and attention during your reading of the manuscript, your positive remarks and your comments that will help to improve the work.
Please find in the Supplement the responses to all your comments.
We will take into account all your constructive feedback in the revised version of the manuscript once we receive the editor’s response.
With kind regards,
The Authors
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Alessio Gentile, 01 Dec 2022
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-921', Peter Jansson, 04 Nov 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-921/egusphere-2022-921-CC1-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on CC1', Alessio Gentile, 01 Dec 2022
Dear Peter Jansson and Ryan Teuling,
we would like to thank you for having selected our paper for this class.
The input is highly appreciated and will help to improve our paper. We would like to point out here that we find the review extremely helpful but overly harsh at instances. The wording implies that we made mistakes. While this wording style is omnipresent (unfortunately!), we take the opportunity to call for a change in wording style in scientific reviews. A simple example is the following: “the authors should further stress the relevance of this study” could be reformulated to “the study would gain from a more concise presentation of its relevance”.
Please find in the Supplement a point-by-point response to both your general and specific comments.
With kind regards,
The Authors
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AC2: 'Reply on CC1', Alessio Gentile, 01 Dec 2022
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