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Data Driven Regional Weather Forecasting
Abstract. Using data alone, without knowledge of underlying physical models, nonlinear discrete time regional forecasting dynamical rules are constructed employing well tested methods from applied mathematics and nonlinear dynamics. Observations of environmental variables such as wind velocity, temperature, pressure, etc allow the development of forecasting rules that predict the future of these variables only. A regional set of observations with appropriate sensors allows one to forgo standard considerations of spatial resolution and uncertainties in the properties of detailed physical models. Present global or regional models require specification of details of physical processes globally or regionally, and the ensuing, often heavy, computational requirements provide information of the time variation of many quantities not of interest locally. In this paper we formulate the construction of data driven forecasting (DDF) models of geophysical processes and demonstrate how this works within the familiar example of a ‘global’ model of shallow water flow on a mid-latitude β plane. A sub-region, where observations are made, of the global flow is selected. A discrete time dynamical forecasting system is constructed from these observations. DDF forecasting accurately predicts the future of observed variables.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Yicun Zhen, 30 Nov 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-1222/egusphere-2022-1222-RC1-supplement.pdf
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CC1: 'Reply on RC1 from all the Authors', Randall Clark, 02 Dec 2022
- RC2: 'Reply on CC1', Yicun Zhen, 02 Dec 2022
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CC1: 'Reply on RC1 from all the Authors', Randall Clark, 02 Dec 2022
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RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Said Ouala, 09 Jan 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-1222/egusphere-2022-1222-RC3-supplement.pdf
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Pierre Tandeo, 12 Jan 2023
Dear authors,
In addition to the two comments from the reviewers, I would like to highlight several points that will need to be considered for the next round:1/ the title is a bit oversold (because you are applying the methodology to toy data, not real weather data), please rephrase it;2/ the notations are sometimes too technical which makes reading difficult, please simplify them;3/ the graphics are of poor quality and sometimes not very informative, please reduce their number and pay more attention to them;4/ overall, there is a lack of synthesis and general clarity, please pay attention to this.Sincerely,
Pierre Tandeo
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-1222-EC1 -
AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Luke Fairbanks, 08 Feb 2023
This file, attached, is a set of responses to each comment from the open discussion period.
In another comment we will post a cover letter, and we will also post the revised manuscript once I can find where to do that since the warning at the bottom says not to post the revision in this page
Luke
- AC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Luke Fairbanks, 08 Feb 2023
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AC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Luke Fairbanks, 09 Feb 2023
during submission we had to do a file where every change was marked. I used multiple programs to try and do this, but each one came out be be a bit of a mess, seemingly hard task to do comparison properly for computer programs. Interested to know if any AI programs have been trained to do this yet, it seems the current comparison programs are adept at finding tiny changes, but if significant changes are made the traditional algorithms fall short of producing useful results
Please let us know if you would like a resubmission of the 'changes' file which we could do by hand or maybe an AI tool, I wanted to go ahead and send submission so we don't miss the deadline, but this shouldn't be much of an issue to take care of if needed
Luke
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-1222-AC3
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Yicun Zhen, 30 Nov 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-1222/egusphere-2022-1222-RC1-supplement.pdf
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CC1: 'Reply on RC1 from all the Authors', Randall Clark, 02 Dec 2022
- RC2: 'Reply on CC1', Yicun Zhen, 02 Dec 2022
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CC1: 'Reply on RC1 from all the Authors', Randall Clark, 02 Dec 2022
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RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Said Ouala, 09 Jan 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-1222/egusphere-2022-1222-RC3-supplement.pdf
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Pierre Tandeo, 12 Jan 2023
Dear authors,
In addition to the two comments from the reviewers, I would like to highlight several points that will need to be considered for the next round:1/ the title is a bit oversold (because you are applying the methodology to toy data, not real weather data), please rephrase it;2/ the notations are sometimes too technical which makes reading difficult, please simplify them;3/ the graphics are of poor quality and sometimes not very informative, please reduce their number and pay more attention to them;4/ overall, there is a lack of synthesis and general clarity, please pay attention to this.Sincerely,
Pierre Tandeo
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-1222-EC1 -
AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Luke Fairbanks, 08 Feb 2023
This file, attached, is a set of responses to each comment from the open discussion period.
In another comment we will post a cover letter, and we will also post the revised manuscript once I can find where to do that since the warning at the bottom says not to post the revision in this page
Luke
- AC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Luke Fairbanks, 08 Feb 2023
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AC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1222', Luke Fairbanks, 09 Feb 2023
during submission we had to do a file where every change was marked. I used multiple programs to try and do this, but each one came out be be a bit of a mess, seemingly hard task to do comparison properly for computer programs. Interested to know if any AI programs have been trained to do this yet, it seems the current comparison programs are adept at finding tiny changes, but if significant changes are made the traditional algorithms fall short of producing useful results
Please let us know if you would like a resubmission of the 'changes' file which we could do by hand or maybe an AI tool, I wanted to go ahead and send submission so we don't miss the deadline, but this shouldn't be much of an issue to take care of if needed
Luke
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-1222-AC3
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