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A terrain-stratified comparison of regional MPAS-A (v8.3.1) and nested WRF (v4.7.1) for short-term near-surface wind forecasting
Abstract. Accurate deterministic forecasts of 10 m wind over complex terrain remain challenging, and the relative performance of nested regional and variable-resolution modelling strategies is still insufficiently documented. This study presents a controlled comparison of five deterministic forecast products over Türkiye: four nested WRF configurations at 12 km parent and 4 km child domain resolution with one-way and two-way nesting, and regional MPAS-Atmosphere with an approximately 4 km refined inner region. All experiments use identical 0.25° GFS forcing, are initialised daily at 00:00 UTC, and integrated for 48 h. After excluding the first 6 h as spin-up, verification is performed over lead times 6–47 h using 10 m wind speed observations from 509 TSMS stations during January and June 2023. Terrain effects are explicitly addressed through a Terrain Ruggedness Index computed from SRTM GL3 elevation data and a three-class terrain stratification. Model performance is assessed using mean error, mean absolute error, root mean square error, and Pearson correlation coefficient.
MPAS achieves the lowest error across all aggregate metrics, with ME of 0.76 m s−1 and RMSE of 2.16 m s−1, compared to 0.99 m s−1 and 2.27 m s−1 for the best WRF configuration. All models exhibit systematic positive bias. The performance gap between MPAS and WRF is strongly terrain-dependent: negligible in low-complexity terrain but reaching 41 % ME reduction at high-complexity sites. Increasing WRF resolution from 12 km to 4 km does not consistently reduce bias, with the coarser 12 km two-way configuration outperforming the finer 4 km two-way configuration across both months and all terrain classes, pointing to grey-zone boundary layer limitations and lateral boundary constraints. Two-way nesting provides meaningful improvement at 12 km but offers diminishing returns at 4 km. MPAS’s aggregate ME advantage partly reflects a compensating bias structure: reduced overprediction at calm and moderate wind speeds is offset by stronger underprediction at high wind speeds, reaching ME of −3.28 m s−1 at high-complexity sites. This wind speed dependence also explains the spatial reversal along the Aegean coast, where WRF 4 km configuration outperforms MPAS at 70 % of stations. These results indicate that neither modelling approach offers a universal advantage; relative performance depends on terrain complexity, local wind climate, and the verification metric of interest.
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CEC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-3355 - No compliance with the policy of the journal', Juan Antonio Añel, 07 Aug 2026
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AC1: 'Reply on CEC1', Ruhi Deniz Yalcin, 10 Aug 2026
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Dear Dr. Añel,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We have added references to the WRF (v4.7.1) and MPAS-Atmosphere (v8.3.1) source code repositories in the Code and Data Availability section. Both models are publicly available via their official GitHub repositories. WRF v4.7.1: https://github.com/wrf-model/WRF/tree/v4.7.1. MPAS-Atmosphere v8.3.1: https://github.com/MPAS-Dev/MPAS-Model/tree/v8.3.1.We will update the manuscript accordingly when invited to submit a revised version.
R. Deniz YalcinCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3355-AC1 -
CEC2: 'Reply on AC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 10 Aug 2026
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Dear authors,
Unfortunately, your proposed solution does not comply with our policy. This is clear in it, establishing that GitHub sites are not valid repositories for scientific publication. GitHub itself instructs authors to use other long-term archival and publishing alternatives, such as Zenodo.
Please, store the code of the models used in your work in a suitable repository, and reply to this comment with a new Code and Data Availability section that complies with the policy of the journal.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
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AC2: 'Reply on CEC2', Ruhi Deniz Yalcin, 10 Aug 2026
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Dear Dr. Añel,
Thank you for your comment. We have archived the source code of both models used in this study in permanent Zenodo repositories:
- WRF-ARW v4.7.1: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21874962
- MPAS-Atmosphere v8.3.1: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21875081The updated Code and Data Availability section is provided below:
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The WRF-ARW (v4.7.1) source code is archived at Zenodo (Yalcin, 2026a; https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21874962) and the MPAS-Atmosphere (v8.3.1) source code is archived at Zenodo (Yalcin, 2026b; https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21875081). The model configuration files, analysis scripts, and derived verification data used in this study are archived at Zenodo (Yalçın et al., 2026; https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20606508). The package includes the WRF namelists, the MPAS namelist and stream files, the JIGSAW mesh-generation scripts, the TRI-processing code, the station-selection workflow, the model-to-station extraction scripts, the Python verification pipeline, and the configuration files required to reproduce the simulations and evaluation reported here. All archived code and data are distributed under the MIT License. The GFS forcing data are publicly available from the NCAR Research Data Archive (National Centers for Environmental Prediction et al., 2015). The TSMS station observations are subject to access restrictions by the Turkish State Meteorological Service; researchers may submit a data request through the TSMS data portal at https://mevbis.mgm.gov.tr/. The derived station-level verification tables and the scripts used to reproduce the reported figures and statistics are archived in the Zenodo repository (Yalçın et al., 2026).
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We will update the manuscript accordingly when invited to submit a revised version.
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Ruhi Deniz Yalcin
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CEC3: 'Reply on AC2', Juan Antonio Añel, 11 Aug 2026
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Dear authors,
Thanks for addressing this issue so quickly. I have checked the repositories and we can consider now the current version of your manuscript in compliance with the code policy of the journal.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3355-CEC3
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Code and data for: Near-surface wind prediction over terrain of varying complexity: a comparison of MPAS-Atmosphere and nested WRF R. D. Yalçın et al. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20606508
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Code and data for: Near-surface wind prediction over terrain of varying complexity: a comparison of MPAS-Atmosphere and nested WRF R. D. Yalçın et al. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20606508
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Dear authors,
Unfortunately, after checking your manuscript, it has come to our attention that it does not comply with our "Code and Data Policy".
https://www.geoscientific-model-development.net/policies/code_and_data_policy.html
In the Code and Data Availability section of your manuscript you do not provide a repository for the WRF and MPAS models used in your work, and you must do it. Given this lack of compliance, your manuscript should not have been accepted for Discussions.
The GMD review and publication process depends on reviewers and community commentators being able to access, during the discussion phase, the code and data on which a manuscript depends, and on ensuring the provenance of replicability of the published papers for years after their publication. Please, therefore, publish the WRF and MPAS codes in one of the appropriate repositories and reply to this comment with the relevant information (link and a permanent identifier for it (e.g. DOI)) as soon as possible. We cannot have manuscripts under discussion that do not comply with our policy.
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Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor