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Diapycnal Mixing in Submesoscale Permitting Simulations of the Deep Brazil Basin
Abstract. Modeling diapycnal mixing in the deep-ocean is challenging, particularly in regions with complex topography. Here we diagnose the relative roles of sub-inertial motions and tidal forcing focusing on the deep Brazil Basin in four simulations using a hydrostatic, high-resolution regional model (CROCO), at 1 km and 3 km horizontal resolution, in presence or absence of tides. Tracer particles are released at multiple depths to investigate the variability of modeled mixing estimates. In the model, horizontal resolution exerts the primary control on diapycnal mixing, while tidal forcing plays a secondary and resolution-dependent role. Increasing resolution significantly increases number and intensity of eddies and enhances diapycnal mixing across the water column. The comparison with the in-situ observations indicates that the simulated diffusivities near the bottom boundary layer are comparable in value to observational estimates. However, diffusivities in the stratified interior are overestimated due to bathymetric smoothing, which causes an underestimation of high-mode internal tides and allows eddy-driven motions to dominate.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-2869', Anonymous Referee #1, 07 Jul 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-2869', Anonymous Referee #2, 17 Jul 2026
The authors compare several high-resolution model simulations, with and without tides, to understand how diapycnal mixing changes between those simulations. This manuscript is very well written, with nice figures, but I'm struggling to get excited since this is just a comparison between very similar simulations and I'm not quite sure what to learn from this.
- Why 1km vs 3km? Both are submesoscale permitting; what about including e.g. a coarser eddying simulaton to see what actually changes when we allow for submesoscale, or a very high-resolution simulation to see if diffusivities actually converge?
- There's a lot of talk in the paper about bathymetric smoothing; why not run a simulation with more/less smoothing to actually show the difference? Theoretical arguments are one thing, but simulations to back up these arguments would be very useful.
- What would the authors expect if these simulations were non-hydrostatic?
The authors put so much effort into writing a nice manuscript but could have done so much more to produce exciting research with very little extra effort. At an absolute minimum I think the authors will have to explain why they ended up with the model resolution they chose. In addition, the authors definitely need to tone down their comments of the role of bathymetric smoothing or provide numerical evidence by running further simulations.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-2869-RC2
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The manuscript investigates diapycnal mixing in the deep Brasil basin using hydrostatic model simulations. The analysis compares runs at different resolutions, with or without tidal forcing. The authors estimate a variety of metrics to discuss the role of mixing and diffusivity terms at the bottom boundary layer and in the water column interior. As a whole, the manuscript reads very well and I have just a few comments. Therefore, I would suggest minor revision.
Minor comments:
l.102: what is average depth of the seafloor on and off the ridge? Is fig1a bathymetry?
l.145: are the BTC and BCC components at 4000m depth balanced in magnitude? How would they compare at other depths?
Please double check figures, in some instances the units are missing on colorbars or in the captions