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Potential of common extraction procedures to evaluate organic carbon association with different species of metal(loid)s in soils
Abstract. A strong association of organic carbon (OC) with metal oxides, especially iron (Fe) and aluminium (Al) oxides has been reported in several studies. However, the role of various species of Fe, Al, manganese (Mn) and silicon (Si) in the stabilisation of OC in Fe-rich and phosphorus (P) deficient soils, common in tropical and sub-tropical regions, remains poorly understood. To address this, we collected topsoil (0–20 cm) and subsoil (20–40 cm) samples from 37 sites across agricultural regions of New South Wales, Australia. Soil samples were subjected to three separate chemical extractions, i.e., sodium pyrophosphate (PP) to extract organo-metal complexes, ammonium oxalate (OX) to extract poorly crystalline and short-range order (SRO) minerals and dithionite citrate bicarbonate (DCB) to extract total metal oxides, to determine OC associated with each of the extractions. Soil organic carbon (SOC) was extracted in the sequence: CPP>CDCB>COX, with a mean of 62±0.16 %, 41±0.19 % and 28±0.21 %, respectively, of the total C extracted from soils. The extraction sequence for Fe was: FeDCB>FeOX>FePP, with a mean of 49±0.18 %, 9±0.05 % and 3±0.03 %, respectively, of the total Fe extracted from soils. Aluminium was extracted in the same sequence as Fe, with a mean value of 4.0±0.02 % for AlDCB, 3.9±0.02 % for AlOX and 2.0±0.01 % for AlPP of the total Al. Manganese extraction occurred in the sequence - MnOX>MnDCB>MnPP, with an average of 78±1.58 %, 65±1.10 % and 43±1.23 %, respectively, of the total Mn extracted. All extractants dissolved <1 % of the total Si. All extractable forms of Fe and Al showed significant positive correlations with extractable C, which suggested their potential role in the preservation of SOC. The large fraction of OC extracted by PP suggested that organic-Fe/Al complexes constituted a large fraction of the total SOC in the studied soils. The significant amount of OC associated with OX extraction also indicated that a substantial portion of the SOC was associated with SRO and poorly crystalline Fe oxides, while a relatively small proportion of the total OC was extracted by DCB suggested a limited role of crystalline Fe/Al oxides in the OC stabilisation.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-2843', Anonymous Referee #1, 30 Sep 2026
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Bright Amenkhienan, 26 Oct 2026
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2026/egusphere-2026-2843/egusphere-2026-2843-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Bright Amenkhienan, 26 Oct 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-2843', Anonymous Referee #2, 27 Oct 2026
Congratulations to the authors for their efforts in conducting this research and preparing the manuscript. The manuscript addresses an important topic in soil science by investigating the interactions between soil organic carbon (SOC) and mineral phases, particularly Fe- and Al-bearing phases. However, several aspects of the methodology and data interpretation would benefit from further clarification to strengthen the robustness of the findings. My comments and suggestions are provided below.
Lines 13-14: The manuscript's aim explicitly concerns Fe, Al, Mn and Si, and the hypothesis proposes roles for all four. But the principal OC conclusions are essentially about Fe and Al. What does the study actually establish about Mn- or Si-associated OC? If their contribution cannot be resolved using these extractants, should Mn and Si be presented as supporting geochemical observations rather than as equivalent components of the central research question?
Line 15: The abstract explicitly frames the study as examining Fe-rich and P-deficient soils, but phosphorus is not reported among the measured soil properties. The Methods report pH, EC, texture, CEC, TC/TN and total Fe, Al, Mn and Si—but no P measurement. Please provide the relevant P measurements and threshold/reference, or remove the P-deficient framing from the objective and abstract.
Lines 21-22: The Methods indicate that pyrophosphate, ammonium oxalate, and DCB extractions were performed separately on different soil aliquots rather than sequentially on the same soil sample. Therefore, the statement in the Abstract that “SOC was extracted in the sequence: CPP > C-DCB > C-OX” is potentially misleading and should be revised. Please clarify that these represent three independent extraction procedures.
Lines 33-34: the abstract stated that "The significant amount of OC associated with OX extraction also indicated that a substantial portion of the SOC was associated with SRO and poorly crystalline Fe oxides", but in the conclusion it's mentioned that "Poorly crystalline and SRO alumino-silicate minerals were absent in the soils." Please clarify this statement.
Lines 222-223: The DCB extraction was repeated for some samples when brown or red coloration persisted in the soil residue. Since the objective of DCB extraction is to remove pedogenic Fe oxides as completely as practicable, please clarify how repeated extraction was accounted for when interpreting the relationships between DCB-extractable Fe and soil organic carbon, particularly if residual SOC was measured after extraction?
Lines 264-265: Some samples reach pH 7.6, but the manuscript simply states that TC represents OC because “most” soils are acidic, and carbonate was tested qualitatively with HCl in soils near neutral pH. Because TC serves as the denominator for the reported percentages and C:(Fe+Al) ratios, even modest inorganic C could affect the quantitative interpretation. Please provide evidence that inorganic C was negligible across the dataset.
Line 341-342: Al extracted by PP, OX, and DCB ranged only between 2-4% of the total Al in samples. What are the possible Al forms in soils?
Line 393. Was the procedure conducted in sequence (i.e. PP first, and followed by DCB, and OX), or is it the sequence with higher to lower organic C C-PP > C-DCB > C-OX? Perhaps the authors can clarify the sentence.
Lines 408-409: The interpretation appears to assume that the OC released by OX represents a subset of the OC released by DCB, such that CDCB - COX can be interpreted as OC associated exclusively with crystalline Fe/Al oxides. However, it is also mentioned somewhere that OX and DCB are independent extractions with different reaction chemistries and partially overlapping. How do the authors address this issue? Or perhaps, I suggest interpreting these values as operationally defined extractable-C fractions rather than assigning the 13% difference quantitatively to crystalline Fe/Al-associated OC.
Lines 630-632: This result highlights that the amount of carbon extracted by a reagent and the amount of mineral elements extracted by that same reagent do not necessarily follow the same pattern. Pyrophosphate can disperse organic matter and disrupt associations between organic molecules and soil particles. It can also extract organic matter associated with metal ions, particularly through complexation with Fe and Al. Other factors, such as the nature of the organic matter and its associations with soil minerals, may also be important. Consequently, the amount of OC extracted does not have to be proportional to the amount of Fe or Al extracted.
Lines 754-755: The authors stated that "Crystalline Fe oxides (i.e., goethite and hematite) were dominant…” and that SRO aluminosilicate minerals were absent." But elsewhere the authors acknowledge that DCB and OX are non-specific: DCB does not quantitatively extract all crystalline Fe phases, while OX may dissolve some crystalline Fe minerals." Can goethite and hematite dominance, and the absence of SRO aluminosilicates, be concluded from selective dissolution alone? Unless supported by independent mineralogical measurements, these statements may need to be reformulated as inferences based on operational extraction ratios rather than direct mineral identification.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-2843-RC2
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The manuscript presents results on the extraction of metals, Si, and C from (sub) tropical soils with frequently used methods. I agree that the (sub) tropical soils under study have not intensively investigated yet so the authors aimed to fill a gap in knowledge. However, there are some major issues that must be clarified prior to potential publication.
My main concerns relate to definitions, lab procedures and data interpretation.
Several times, the authors mentioned “Fe/Al oxides” without defining this phrase. Do they mean the sum of individual Fe and Al oxides? Or do they mean mixed oxides, which contain both Fe and Al so that the “pure” Fe and Al oxides, respectively, are not included? Clarification is necessary, as it determines the interpretation of extraction data.
Several times (see below), the authors claimed that Al oxides are dissolved (extracted by) DCB. This is wrong and shown by many studies/reviews, which the authors even cited. On the other hand, sometimes the authors interpreted DCB extraction of Al oxides correctly. Again, clarification and uniform correct interpretation is necessary.
Several times, the authors mentioned SRO and poorly crystalline minerals. Does it mean that they distinguished between SRO and poorly crystalline? If so, which minerals are SRO, but not poorly crystalline and vice versa?
The authors referred to Wagai et al. (2013), who suggested filtration of PP extracts with a 0.025 µm filter, but the authors used a 0.2 µm filter without explanation. Furthermore, they filtrated all extracts at 0.2 µm, except for DCB extracts, for which they applied a Whitman filter with approx. 2 µm pore size. Not only is the inconsistency of the filter pore size between the different extracts incomprehensible, but also that it does not exclude the presence of particulate species in the DCB extracts - dissolved species, and only those are at stake, are defined via a 0.45 μm filter. These are not the only examples where studies/reviews are cited but the statements in them are not considered.
More specifically and minor concerns:
Due to my above-mentioned objections, a substantial revision of the manuscript is necessary.