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Meteoroids as a source of metal ion clouds in Earth’s upper thermosphere
Abstract. Advances in lidar technology have enabled the detection of Metal Ion Clouds (MICs) at altitudes between 120–300 km in the Earth’s thermosphere. Observations from a Ca+ lidar in Beijing, China, reveal that these MICs are characterized by tightly packed, stripe-like structures that span extensive areas, covering hundreds to thousands of square kilometers. Some of these stripes extend downward to the Main Metal Layer (MML) around 100 km, and some clouds descend with tidal winds and merge into the underlying MML. While arriving the altitudes of Mesosphere and Low-Thermosphere (MLT), they lead to an increase in Sporadic-E (Es) layer density, and even trigger the formation of a new Es layer. The metal ions in the upper thermosphere will eventually sink into the MML and significantly affect its density variations. The striped structure of MICs and their direct effects on Es and MML suggest they originate from meteoroid trails, challenging traditional views on meteoric input.
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Review: Meteoroids as a source of metal ion clouds in Earth’s upper thermosphere
The authors present an excellent, high-quality, set of Ca+ observations from the lidar in Beijing. They note several cases where interesting vertical structures in the Ca+ measurements extend upwards from the main metal layer (MML) and suggest that these stripes could be due to meteor trails. The authors support their theory with observations of Total electron content from a co-located ionosonde and horizontal wind measurements at 250 km from an FPI.
I share the author’s interest in these fine layered features shown in the manuscript. They are a very peculiar structures which hints at some very complex underlying physics and definitely worthy of more study. Unfortunately, I think it unlikely that these vertical stripes are the results of meteor trails. More quantitative analysis is required to make a strong case.
A Case Against Meteor Trails:
Minor points:
L38: I suggest: “When meteoroids and space debris…” space debris is becoming significant and a topic of interest
L46: replace “non-metal species” with a more specific list.
Figure 2: matching the time between the lidar and Ionosonde for each measurement makes it easier for the reader to follow.
L136-137: Be careful of making causation statements. The physics is complex such statements should be strongly supported.
L137-139: A quantitative would be more convincing.
L139-140: All data access statements can be put at the end in the Data Availability Section.
L148: A quantitative timeseries analysis would be stronger proof.
L151: Good to keep in mind that these structures are very larger with complicated (and unknown) 3D shapes.
L154-155: Yes, a quantitative analysis would strengthen this point.
Figure 3: This figure is quite complex. It took me several minutes to completely understand what was happening. I would suggest reducing the complexity. Perhaps one case per figure?
L198-200: Be careful with correlation and causation. To make the case for causation I would prefer to see more quantitative analysis.
Figure 5: Don’t overinterpret the small bend in the MSIS density curve. MSIS semi-empirical, climatological model. It can’t be expected to accurately show the state of the atmosphere in real time.
L246-247: The change I density scale height is not really large enough to create a big difference in the ablation. The absolute density is the important thing. The formation of the MMLs has much more to do with the chemistry than the density. The framing of the MML formation is a bit strange here. See any paper by Plane et al.
General comment:
The structure of the paper presenting multiple cases is a bit difficult to follow. I would consider restructuring how case studies are presented to make it easier for a reader to quickly see the points you want to make.
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