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Impacts of Increasing CO2 on Diurnal Migrating Tide in the Equatorial Lower Thermosphere
Abstract. We investigate impacts of increased CO2 concentration on migrate diurnal tide (DW1). A future climate simulation is conducted using a WACCM-X model, with surface CO2 levels increasing according to the RCP 8.5 scenario. The DW1 (1,1) mode, a propagating tide peaking near the equator, exhibits a positive trend of ~+1 % per decade in a range of 20–70 km, and a negative trend of ~-2 % per decade in a range of 90–110 km. The positive trend is likely driven by depression in atmospheric density in the mesosphere and enhanced equatorial convective activity, while the negative trend appears to result from increased eddy diffusion in the mesosphere, which overwhelms the positive trend. Two potential mechanisms may explain the negative trend. First, increasing CO2 enhances mesospheric stability, reducing tidal vertical wavelengths. In our simulation, equatorial temperatures around ~50–70 km become cooler than those in ~70–90 km. This strong cooling could be linked to CO2 mixing and transport, as well as the contraction of the mesospheric ozone layer due to CO2-induced cooling. Second, stronger convective activity intensifies gravity wave generation, increasing gravity wave diffusion in the mesosphere. This strong convective activity also likely intensifies the tide below ~70 km. While our positive DW1 trend is consistent with McLandress and Fomichev (2006), the negative trend in the lower thermosphere contrasts with their results. This discrepancy might arise because their model used a time-independent diffusion coefficient, whereas WACCM-X accounts for CO2-driven changes in gravity wave diffusion.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3303', Yosuke Yamazaki, 08 Aug 2025
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Review on "Impacts of Increasing CO2 on Diurnal Migrating Tide in the Equatorial Lower Thermosphere" by Kogure et al.
Reviewed by Yosuke Yamazaki, Leibniz Institute of Atmospheric Physics, University of Rostock
This paper examines the impact of increasing CO2 on the upward-propagating migrating diurnal tide (DW1) using a WACCM-X simulation with a prescribed long-term surface CO2 trend. The results indicate positive DW1 amplitude responses in the stratosphere and lower mesosphere (20-70 km) and negative responses at higher altitudes (90-110 km). The authors discuss in detail possible mechanisms underlying these altitude-dependent responses.
The study presents new and interesting findings, and I have no fundamental objection to its publication in Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics. However, I see two main weaknesses:
1. The results are not validated against observations, leaving their realism uncertain.
2. The conclusions are drawn from a single simulation without controlled experiments to isolate the suggested mechanisms.
Point (1) could be addressed by referencing existing tidal observations in the literature. Decades of ground-based and satellite measurements are available and should permit at least qualitative comparisons with the simulation results (e.g., consistency in the sign of responses). Point (2) may be more difficult to resolve, given the data storage limitations already noted by the authors. I suggest the authors address at least (1).
The following are other minor comments:
(l. 13) "... the negative trend appears to result from increased eddy diffusion in the mesosphere, ..."
This part is confusing. It first gives a reason for the negative trend, but the following sentence states there are two reasons. I suggest rephrasing for clarity.(l. 47) "(Yamazaki et al., 2024; Yamazaki and Siddiqui, 2014)"
This should be "(Yamazaki et al., 2014; Yamazaki and Siddiqui, 2024)".(l. 58) "absorption of solar heating"
Perhaps, "absorption of solar radiation"?(l. 96) "and from 2015 onward, it is simulated by rewinding the solar forcing to the 1850 levels (Figure 1b)."
Could you elaborate on this? From 2015 onward, are the f10.7 data theoretical predictions, or are they actual observations from a different time period?(l. 105) "These perturbations were then convolved with the (1,1) Hough mode function to derive the (1,1) mode amplitudes on pressure coordinates."
It should be explicitly stated that the amplitude of the (1,1) Hough mode is computed separately for each pressure surface.(Equation 1)
The right-hand side should be multiplied by Z_{GP}.(Equation 3)
Should the sign before sigma_i_{2003-2013} be "-" instead of "+"?(l. 194) "tidal dumping"
Perhaps, "tidal damping"?(Figure 4)
I cannot see the ticks on the x-axis. Also, the x-axes look unusual; neither the lower nor the upper x-axis appears to be linearly scaled.(l. 223; also in the Figure 5 caption) "Eq. (2)"
Should this be "Eq. (5)"? Eq. (2) does not tell how to calculate the local vertical wavenumber.(l. 247) "in zonal mean temperatures (7a) and their vertical gradients (7b)"
Should they be "(6a)" and "(6b)"?(l. 256) "Temperatures in this layer are influenced not only by CO2 cooling but also by O3 heating via ultraviolet absorption (Garcia, 2021; Garcia et al., 2019; Jonsson et al., 2004; Lübken et al., 2013)."
Could you describe how O3 changes are produced in the model and how they are connected with the changes in CO2?(l. 308) "In addition,... Therefore, increased CO2 concentrations... and reduce the tidal amplitudes."
I suggest rewriting this part. "Therefore" does not clearly connect the second sentence to the first.Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-3303-RC1
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CESM2/WACCM-X future simulation data from 2000 to 2090 Han Ma https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.15189573
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