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Probabilistic seasonal outlook for the rainy season over India by monitoring the onset dates using GPM IMERG satellite-based precipitation
Abstract. We utilized the Integrated Multi-Satellite Retrievals for Global Precipitation Mission version 6 (IMERG) rainfall observation (available in real time) over India to determine the onset and demise of the rainy season. The annual mean climatology derived from IMERG observations over India aligned closely with the rain gauge-based India Meteorological Department observation. The IMERG rainfall time series was randomly perturbed to generate 101 ensemble members at every grid point of the rainfall analysis to obtain a corresponding ensemble of the onset and demise dates of the rainy season. The perturbations were designed to sample the uncertainty due to random synoptic or mesoscale rain events influencing the diagnosis of the onset/demise dates at the granularity of the IMERG observations (at 10 km grid). Following earlier studies, we find from the IMERG dataset that seasons with an earlier onset date are strongly related to a lengthier and wetter season, whereas seasons with a later onset date correspond to a shorter and drier season. In contrast, the connections between the onset, demise, seasonal length, and rainfall with ENSO and IOD were comparatively weaker over most of India. The generation of ensembles in this study underscores the potential for real-time application of generating reliable, probabilistic seasonal outlooks of the rainy season over India by leveraging the local links amongst onset date, seasonal length, and seasonal rainfall anomalies. This potential is further confirmed by the high probabilistic skill scores of the seasonal outlooks using the area under the relative operating characteristic curve method.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-273', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 May 2025
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2025/egusphere-2025-273/egusphere-2025-273-RC1-supplement.pdf
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-273', Anonymous Referee #2, 11 Jul 2025
The manuscript entitled “Probabilistic seasonal outlook for the rainy season over India by monitoring the onset dates using GPM IMERG satellite-based precipitation” attempts to establish a link between the length of the monsoon season and the accumulated rainfall during the season. It is demonstrated that an early monsoon onset is generally associated with a longer season and greater accumulated rainfall. However, the concept of local onset lacks sufficient physical insight and appears more like a data science exercise than a physically grounded meteorological study. The manuscript requires substantial revision before it can be considered for publication.
- Why is the term “demise” used? Most of the established literature on the Indian monsoon uses the term “withdrawal.” Please consider aligning with standard terminology.
- The concepts of monsoon onset and withdrawal have been addressed from various perspectives in previous literature (e.g., Goswami and Xavier, 2007). These studies focus on large-scale monsoon onset and withdrawal. How does the present approach fit into this broader context?
- Line 156 – Should the left-hand side of Equation 1 be “j” or “J”? Please clarify and ensure consistent notation.
- What exactly is meant by the “climatology of annual mean rainfall” in this context? Is it a seasonal cycle (i.e., varying with time of year) or a single fixed value, regardless of the dates involved?
- Please explain the physical rationale behind the proposed methodology for defining onset and withdrawal. Why is this approach meaningful from a meteorological perspective?
- Figure 3 – The caption mentions statistical significance, but there is no indication of this in the figure itself. Where is the shading or other representation of statistically significant values?
- The stated goal of the study is to provide a seasonal outlook based on onset dates. However, the correlation between seasonal rainfall and onset/withdrawal dates (Figures 3b and 3d) appears rather weak. This undermines the central premise of the study.
- Figure S4 shows minimal correlation between JJA SST and onset or duration (DD). On the other hand, the manuscript claims that onset dates provide useful information for seasonal rainfall outlooks. This seems inconsistent with well-established findings in the literature (e.g., DelSole and Shukla, 2002, GRL), which show that JJAS SSTs are strongly associated with seasonal rainfall. Please clarify this discrepancy.
- Is there a specific reason for choosing IMERG data for this analysis? The IMD daily gridded rainfall dataset has a longer temporal span and is widely used in monsoon studies. Please justify the choice of data source.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-273-RC2
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