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Precipitation Nowcasting Based on Convolutional LSTM with Spatio-Temporal Information Transformation Using Multi-Meteorological Factors
Abstract. Precipitation nowcasting is vital for protecting lives and economic activities, yet accurate forecasts based solely on past precipitation remain elusive. Conventional numerical weather prediction (NWP) models offer a solution but incur substantial computational costs. Moreover, due to the rapid pace of climate change, long-term time series data are often inadequate for accurately addressing precipitation forecasting for extreme weather events, as past meteorological time series data may not accurately reflect current atmospheric conditions. There is an urgent need to rely on short-term time series for prediction tasks. Existing studies have employed Spatio-Temporal Information Transformation(STI) equations with iterative solutions for shortterm time series prediction. However, the solution process involves relatively simple nonlinear operations, which are prone to cumulative errors and can result in inaccurate forecasts. In response, the present work proposes a dual encoder-decoder training framework that maps multi-dimensional spatial features into temporal projections of future precipitation variables. This architecture addresses the limitations of inaccurate predictions for short-term time series data. Additionally, an adaptive weighted gradient loss (ADGLoss) is proposed to mitigate error accumulation in long-term forecasts and rectify systematic underestimation of high-intensity precipitation regions. Leveraging the U.S.-based SEVIR dataset, the proposed model integrates multiple meteorological variables to generate 1-hour precipitation forecasts. Experimental results demonstrate that the STI-driven framework achieves superior predictive accuracy and reduced error rates in multi-step forecasting compared to state-of-the-art deep learning benchmarks. The model effectively captures the spatio-temporal dependencies between heterogeneous meteorological variables and precipitation patterns, offering a novel pathway for advancing spatio-temporal prediction tasks in climate informatics.
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CEC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2714 - No compliance with the policy of the journal', Juan Antonio Añel, 28 Jul 2025
Dear authors,
Unfortunately, after checking your manuscript, it has come to our attention that it does not comply with our "Code and Data Policy".
https://www.geoscientific-model-development.net/policies/code_and_data_policy.htmlFirst, regarding the code used in your manuscript, your implementation relies on many third-party libraries. As independent pieces of software, it would be good that you identify in your Code Availability section the version number of such libraries, to ensure the correct identification of the elements necessary to replicate your work.
More relevant is the problem with the data for your manuscript. You state that "All data used in this study are provided by the SEVIR dataset" and that you have stored a small sample of it due to the large size of the dataset. Regarding this, the link that you provide for the repository is wrong, you should cite the repository "https://zenodo.org/records/15686610" which corresponds to the version 2, and contains some files. However, we can not accept that you provide only a sample without additional information on the size of the dataset, to assess if it is actually unfeasible to store the data. For sizes under 500 GB it is perfectly possible to share the data in some of the repositories listed in our policy by storing it in several repositories of up to 50 GB, and we expect that you do it.
Therefore, the current situation with your manuscript is irregular. Please, publish your data in one of the appropriate repositories, and the information requested on your code, and reply to this comment with the relevant information (link and a permanent identifier for it (e.g. DOI)) as soon as possible, as we can not accept manuscripts in Discussions that do not comply with our policy.
Also, you must include an updated 'Code and Data Availability' section in any potentially reviewed manuscript, containing the new information.
I must note that if you do not fix this problem, we cannot continue with the peer-review process or accept your manuscript for publication in our journal.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive EditorCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-CEC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on CEC1: Code and Data Policy Compliance', Dufu Liu, 28 Jul 2025
Dear Dr. Juan A. Añel,
Thank you very much for your detailed and constructive comments regarding our manuscript.
Following your suggestions, we have carefully revised our submission to comply with the “Code and Data Policy”:- Third-party libraries: We have created a requirements.txt file listing all the essential third-party libraries with their specific version numbers. We have also updated the README.md file in our code repository to reflect this information, ensuring transparency and reproducibility. The current link for obtaining is https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.15851991.
- Code repository: We have changed the database repository version 3 link in the manuscript’s “Code and Data Availability” section. The current link for obtaining is https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.16525305. This manuscript will also be included in the revised submission.
- Data availability: The SEVIR dataset used in this study is a publicly available, open dataset released and maintained by MIT Lincoln Laboratory (https://registry.opendata.aws/sevir/, total size approximately 900 GB). We did not create or modify any part of this dataset; Our study directly uses the original dataset. To avoid unnecessary duplication and to ensure that readers always access the authoritative and most up-to-date version, we have chosen to cite the official SEVIR repository. Additionally, we have provided a detailed description of the SEVIR dataset relevant to our study in the supplementary material.
We hope this approach aligns with the journal’s policy, as it supports data transparency and avoids redundant storage of large open datasets.
We truly appreciate your guidance and are ready to make any further adjustments if needed.
Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
Best regards,
Dufu, LiuCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-AC1 -
CEC2: 'Reply on AC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 28 Jul 2025
Dear authors,
Many thanks for your quick answer to address the outstanding issues in your manuscript. I continue concerned about your reluctance to store the SEVIR data that you have used. First, your statement about providing the most recent version of the dataset does not serve the purpose of the Data policy. The goal of the Data availability statement is not to provide access to the most recent version of a dataset, or publicize it, but to assure the replicability of the work presented in the manuscript. In this way, the fact that the dataset is updated with new content is actually a shortcoming regarding the accuracy of the information necessary for the replicability, not an advantage, and therefore something to avoid. Also, 900 GB is not such a big size, and it is not clear to me that you have used the full dataset. Also, the aws site used by SEVIR does not provide any kind of guarantee regarding the long-term access to the data. It could be shut down at any time without explanation.
Therefore, please, store the SEVIR data that you have used in one of the acceptable repositories following our policy, and reply to this comment with the details necessary to access it: link and permanent handler.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-CEC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on CEC2', Dufu Liu, 29 Jul 2025
Dear Dr. Juan A. Añel,
Thank you very much for your continued guidance and for clarifying the purpose of the Data Availability policy. We truly appreciate your careful consideration to ensure the replicability and long-term accessibility of the work.
In response to your comments, we fully agree to store the specific SEVIR data used in our study in an acceptable public repository. Due to the large data volume, we have started uploading the dataset in batches to Zenodo under the following DOI:
https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.16525305
The upload process is ongoing, as the dataset size makes it time-consuming, and we are fully committed to ensuring that the complete data will be available. We plan to continue this process throughout the review period and will provide the final, complete DOI and link to the repository in our revised manuscript at the end of the review.
We hope this plan is acceptable and allows the peer-review process to continue in parallel, while we finalize the data upload. Our goal is to fully comply with the journal’s policy and to guarantee the replicability of our study.
Thank you once again for your detailed feedback and support.
Best regards,
Dufu, LiuCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-AC2 -
CEC3: 'Reply on AC2', Juan Antonio Añel, 29 Jul 2025
Dear authors,
Many thanks for your reply. Please, let us know when you have finished uploading your data.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-CEC3 -
AC3: 'Reply on CEC3:Data Availability Update - Upload Complete', Dufu Liu, 17 Aug 2025
Dear Dr. Juan A. Añel,
Thank you for your patience and support throughout the review process. I am pleased to inform you that the full SEVIR dataset used in our study has now been successfully uploaded to Zenodo. The complete and final repository link is https://zenodo.org/records/16885327.
We have verified the dataset's accessibility and integrity to ensure it fully complies with the journal’s Data Availability policy. This repository now contains all data necessary to replicate our study, and we will include this updated link in the revised manuscript.
Thank you again for your guidance and understanding regarding the large-scale data transfer. Please let us know if you require any additional information or adjustments from our side. We greatly appreciate your efforts in facilitating the peer-review process.
Best regards,
Dufu LiuCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-AC3 -
CEC4: 'Reply on AC3', Juan Antonio Añel, 17 Aug 2025
Dear authors,
Many thanks for providing the requested data, and for your willingness to comply with the Code and Data policy of our journal. We can consider the current version of your manuscript in compliance with the policy.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-CEC4 -
AC6: 'Reply on CEC4', Dufu Liu, 11 Sep 2025
Dear Dr. Juan A. Añel,
We greatly appreciate your guidance and support throughout this process.
Please let us know if any further information or adjustments are needed. We look forward to the next steps in the review and publication process.
Best regards,
Dufu LiuCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-AC6
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AC6: 'Reply on CEC4', Dufu Liu, 11 Sep 2025
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CEC4: 'Reply on AC3', Juan Antonio Añel, 17 Aug 2025
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AC3: 'Reply on CEC3:Data Availability Update - Upload Complete', Dufu Liu, 17 Aug 2025
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CEC3: 'Reply on AC2', Juan Antonio Añel, 29 Jul 2025
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AC2: 'Reply on CEC2', Dufu Liu, 29 Jul 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on CEC1: Code and Data Policy Compliance', Dufu Liu, 28 Jul 2025
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2714', Anonymous Referee #1, 29 Jul 2025
The authors have addressed the previous concerns effectively, and the revised manuscript demonstrates a notable improvement in quality. The revisions have strengthened the work and enhanced its contribution to the field. I am pleased to recommend this manuscript for publication.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-RC1 -
AC4: 'Reply on RC1', Dufu Liu, 10 Sep 2025
Dear Reviewer,
We sincerely appreciate your recognition and positive evaluation of our revised manuscript. We are also deeply grateful for the time and effort you dedicated to the review process. It brings us great joy to know that our work has received your endorsement, and we wholeheartedly thank you for recommending our paper for publication. We remain committed to maintaining a rigorous approach in our future research endeavors.
Once again, we extend our heartfelt thanks for your invaluable support and encouragement!
Best regards
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-AC4
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AC4: 'Reply on RC1', Dufu Liu, 10 Sep 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2714', Anonymous Referee #2, 18 Aug 2025
The paper presents a Spatio-Temporal Information-Dual Encoder-Decoder Network (STI-DEDN) that effectively addresses critical challenges in precipitation nowcasting. The dual encoder-decoder framework, built upon ConvLSTM, offers a fresh perspective on solving STI equations through deep learning, bypassing traditional iterative methods prone to error accumulation. However, there are some issues:
- The claimed novelty of "dual encoder-decoder training framework" needs stronger differentiation from existing dual-learning architectures in literature.
- A 60-minute forecast lead time is far from sufficient and fails to effectively highlight the model's performance. In operational precipitation nowcasting, the focus is typically on 0–3 hour forecasts. While the authors present 2h and 3h results in Section 5.3, the model's performance in MSE and PSNR metrics is inferior to Transformer-based models and only comparable to RNN-based approaches (e.g., PredRNN and PhyDNet). This appears somewhat contradictory to the claim that the proposed model mitigates error accumulation in long-term forecasting. The ADGLoss also seems to have limited effectiveness in improving longer lead-time predictions. To strengthen the analysis, the authors should: 1) Include visualizations of typical cases for 2h and 3h forecasts to illustrate the performance limitations. 2) In the conclusion, propose future research directions to enhance the model’s effectiveness for extended forecasting periods.
- The computational requirements (Section 4.3) are underspecified. The authors should provide training time and inference speed.
- The exclusion of lightning data (Section 4.1) requires more rigorous justification given its potential relevance to extreme precipitation events. The authors should discuss how this exclusion might impact model performance.
- The authors utilized bicubic interpolation to standardize the spatial resolution of various meteorological factors. While this approach resolves the resolution mismatch, please consider and discuss the following concerns: 1) Could this interpolation method introduce artificial errors into the dataset? 2) Might this processing lead to misalignment in the spatial representation of precipitation patterns among the different factors?
- The 0-3-hour nowcasting is aimed at sudden severe convective or heavy rainfall processes. Therefore, the first case study in this paper has essentially no practical significance and is insufficient to demonstrate the model performance. The selection of the second case is reasonable; however, in terms of the performance in this localized heavy precipitation case, STI-DEDN is inferior to operational models such as NowcastNet (Sheng et al. 2025). Such results are insufficient to support the publication of this paper in GMD.
SHENG Jie, JIN Ronghua, ZHANG Xiaowen, DAI Kan, ZHANG Xiaoling, GUAN Liang, YANG Bo, ZHANG Yuchen, XING Lanxiang, LONG Mingsheng, WANG Jianmin,2025.Verification and Case Evaluation of the “Fenglei” V1 Meteorological Nowcasting Model[J].Meteor Mon,51(4):389-399.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2714-RC2 -
AC5: 'Reply on RC2', Dufu Liu, 10 Sep 2025
Dear Reviewer,
We sincerely appreciate the valuable comments and constructive suggestions you have provided for our manuscript. These comments have offered important insights that can significantly enhance the quality of our paper.
We have carefully considered all of your comments and made corresponding revisions to the manuscript. We have also compiled a supplementary document detailing our responses and revisions, which we hope you will review.
Thank you once again for your time and guidance. We look forward to your response.
Best regards
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