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Non-Invasive Assessment of Aircraft Engine Particulate Matter Emissions with Lidar
Abstract. Particulate matter (PM) emitted by aircraft engines primarily consists of soot particles formed through incomplete fuel combustion, which can act as ice nuclei in the formation of contrails and contribute to poor air quality around airports. A novel technique is introduced to investigate aircraft engine PM emissions using a short-range elastic backscattering lidar. This approach was validated through trials conducted at the Airbus Bikini test site using the compact and field-deployable Colibri Aerosol Lidar (CAL) sensor. This instrument enables rapid, non-invasive, and remote measurement of volume backscatter profiles, which can be converted into PM mass and number concentrations without the need to sample particles from the aircraft exhaust. Our findings demonstrate the feasibility and potential of using a short-range elastic backscattering lidar for remote assessment of aircraft PM emissions across various engine thrust levels.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2612', Anonymous Referee #2, 26 Aug 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2612', Anonymous Referee #1, 27 Aug 2025
The paper introduces the use of a short-range LIDAR to characterize aircraft particulate emissions. The paper and the techniques presented are interesting and certainly worth publication. Overall, the paper is well written, and the method is fairly solid. Some aspects might require some clarification, but I think the paper can be published with relatively minor changes addressing the comments below.
General comments
- The system measures the backscattering from particles, all particles in the sample volume (along the laser path). The authors assume and justify the hypothesis that all the particles at that distance from the aircraft are nonvolatile, and then they focus on soot. Perhaps some more discussion on how volatile particles, albeit in small concentrations, could still contribute to the signal would be useful. The next comment focuses on a related topic of terminology.
- This is a terminology as well as a definition issue. The authors introduce the term nvPM and discuss it widely in the introduction but then in the method they use soot as subscript. So, the assumption appears to be that all nvPM are soot. I would tend to agree with this assumption but in that case, it would be necessary to mention that point explicitly early on and provide some basis supporting this assumption. In addition, then why introducing a new term that is not as widely used in the literature (as nvPM) and not just use soot all along, if here they are assumed to be the same? For example, nvPM could also include dust, obviously not emitted directly from a plane engine, although the turbulence generated by the jet could entrain dust from the local asphalt; this just to say that introducing the term nvPM is, in my opinion, unnecessary here and could actually be confusing. This is particularly true considering the inversion algorithm used here is based on RDG-FA with input parameters applicable specifically to soot. This terminology issue becomes even more confusing when, in section 3.3, the authors also introduce the term equivalent black carbon. My suggestion is to pick one (soot, nvPM, or BCeq) and use it consistently across the paper, again, because the MBC was calculated from RDG-FA for soot, the more natural term, in my opinion, would be just “soot”.
- A comparison with other traditional techniques would have increased confidence in the technique. It is unfortunate, but understandable, that these additional measurements were not available for this work. This is mentioned in the concluding remarks.
- I am a little bit confused by the claimed spatial resolution of the system (see the relevant specific comment). Did the authors perform target tests to measure the true spatial resolution of the system?
Specific comments
Line 22: As the sentence seems to suggest that nvPM is present only at T>350 °C, almost implying that once the T<350 °C , they would disappear. I would guess the authors refer to the forming conditions, not the “presence” condition (?).
Line 52: “other optical methods” such as?
First equality in equation (1): This range correction just accounts for the 1/r^2 dependence. Isn’t there also an overlap (overlap between the laser beam and the field of view) function to be accounted for here (in the first equality if S(r) is the raw signal)? The overlap function is separately mentioned just a couple of lines later and included in the second equality.
Line 63: I can imagine that for modern aircraft, the plume is optically thin also due to the short path length, but how good is this approximation? Can one make a rough estimate using the lidar data directly?
Line 70: These sentences are a bit deceiving. Instruments like the PAX and CAPS are meant to measure absorption and extinction, respectively, not mass. Mass can just be derived from those measurements, if desired, using mass efficiencies.
Line 72: CAL was defined only in the abstract. Perhaps it would be good to redefine it here.
Line 78: PDF of what? The size.
Line 78, again: how good is this assumption?
Equation (7): consider adding a subscript (soot and eff, for effective) to ro.
Line 96: Lorentz-Mie assumes more than just spherical shape; it assumes spherical symmetry.
Line 129: The acronym RDG-FA was already defined in the previous paragraph.
Line 135: This is probably not important, but being a short-range lidar, one would think that the scattering angle collected, albeit close to just PI, would have some narrow range around this angle, meaning that it is not exactly and only PI. How important is this deviation from exact backscattering?
Line 140: remove repeated “regimes”
Line 143: Issues with the Bobbins and Megaridis citation.
Line 150: In what sense is “forward-looking”? Is that meant to indicate that the beam is propagating horizontally? Also, what is meant by “multi-axial architecture”? Is it relevant here?
Line 153: What is the beam waist after expansion?
Line 156: Why use an achromat if a single wavelength is used?
Line 157: The sentence starting with “This feature” is a bit mysterious. Perhaps the authors can add a sentence or two to explain this point.
Line 161: Can the authors comment on this sampling rate? 1 GS/s corresponds to 1 ns at best, probably closer to 2 or more ns. Within this time, light travels about 30-60 cm, so how is a 10 cm resolution (mentioned in line 151) being achieved? This can be even worse if (as often is the case) the bandwidth of the system is lower than the sampling rate. What is the bandwidth of the PMT+digitizer system (the PMT bandwidth alone is already 1 GHz, as mentioned in Figure 1)? The resolution issue might be even worse if the pulse duration is indeed 6 ns, as mentioned in Figure 1.
Line 165: “direct measurement” in what sense? It is a remote sensor after all, so inversion is always necessary, as mentioned by the authors earlier on. I understand what the authors mean here, but the term “direct” might be misleading. Perhaps something like “touchless” or similar words?
Line 169: Again, I think this is deceiving, because this is also a remote sensing technique. So, what other “remote sensing techniques” do they refer to?
Lines 172-173: The sentence “the sensitivity of SR-EBL means that all particles can be detected” is not clear to me. The sensitivity of the instrument has not been discussed; also, what does it mean “all particles”? Although unlikely, I could think of extreme cases where a soot particle is made up of just a very few monomers. Would that be detected by the sensor? I would think that would be unlikely. This is repeated in the following sentence. Again, I understand what the authors are trying to convey. I think they refer to possible particle losses for other techniques, but as such, the sentences could be misunderstood, and I would encourage the authors to rephrase and be more explicit.
Lines 220-221: Either refer to previous work, or explain the adaptive gain system some more.
Line 227: Where in the figure does one see background aerosols? And how is that distinguished, considering the RDG-FA method to invert the signal applies only to soot, and background aerosol probably contains large fractions of other particles?
Line 231: How was it identified, and how was it determined to have a minimal influence?
Lines 234-235: What was the reason for the shorter times?
Line 244: Is it possible that the engine thrust simply would change the plume dilution due to the airflow? Quantifying the ratio of the plume height to spatial width (as provided by the CAL) might help to address that question.
Line 169: k()->ko?
Line 280: “branching”? Maybe “backscatter”. Also, the acronym MBC was already defined earlier.
Line 282: Why “as expected”?
Line 308: How do you define “minimal” in this context?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2612-RC2
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[General comments]
This is a study to measure non-volatile (soot) particle concentrations in on-wing aircraft exhaust plume with a cutting-edge remote sensing technique (lidar). This is new and useful technique. The study is well-motivated and well-done. The manuscript is well-written. Therefore, it is worth publishing in this journal. I only have relatively minor comments to improve clarity and add some information.
[Specific comments]
(L151) “The range resolution of 10 cm and a time resolution of 1ms” is provided as the lidar (Cal sensor). What are the actual space and time resolutions when applied to the real aircraft exhaust plumes?
(L173) “all particles can be detected”… I assume there is a certain level of detection limit for particle size (diameter in nm) of this lidar technique. This information should be very important, therefore, please add such information.
(L178) “…pool-fire and has been promising results”… How was the method validated and how accurate was the measurement data? Please provide that information with a few sentences.
(L194) “about 50 meters”… Seeing from Fig.3 (right figure), isn’t the distance from the lidar to the centerline of the exhaust plume 47 m?
(Fig.2) All the lidar instruments (laser, receiver, and sensor) are installed in the vehicle? Is the beam stop installed to the aircraft body? Or is it installed farther (how far?) from the aircraft body? Please specify them.
(Fig.3) It seems the words “Colibri CAL-210” and “Sequence A” can be omitted. I assume the “Range (m)” is the “horizontal distance from the CAL sensor”. Please specify it.
(Fig.3) What is the detection limit of soot concentration in air (xx ug/m3). Please provide the information.
(L243) “Interestingly, the concentrations do not increase linearly with thrust”… This trend was previously reported, such as shown in Fig.2 of Durdina et al. (2021).
(Table 1) What is the specific thrust percentage (such as 7%) of “intermediate, high, and idle”? Are the concentrations at the centerline of the exhaust plumes? Are the concentration levels comparable with the ones measured with the certification methods. What is the distance of the measured point from the engine exit (along with the exhaust axis)? Please clarify them.
(L316) There has been increasing evidence that lots of 10-20 nm class lubrication oil-derived volatile particles are emitted from aircraft engines (Yu et al., 2012; Fushimi et al., 2019; Ungeheuer et al., 2021). Can the lidar technique shown here detect such organic particles? If the authors can add some thoughts here, that would be great.
[Technical/minor comments]
(L107-108) “kerosene number and mass concentration”: Maybe this is about “the number and mass concentrations of kerosene combustion-derived soot”. Please check and revise the sentence.
(L143) “Dobbins and Megaridis ?”… It may be a misprint.
(Section 3.1 and 3.2) I think these sections should be moved to the method section.
(L228) “time-integrated…”… Is this 3-min averaged data? Please specify it.
[References]