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Observed modulation of wintertime Western Arctic mixed-phase cloud properties by sea ice conditions, their long-term variabilities and trends
Abstract. To assess the long-term interaction between sea ice conditions and Arctic mixed-phase cloud (MPC) properties, fourteen winter seasons of observations from the North Slope of Alaska are analysed. MPC properties are set into context with sea ice conditions by determining the sea ice sectors which are most relevant to interact with the observed clouds. A conical sector of 6° and 50 km radius of upstream sea ice concentration (SIC) is considered based on the azimuth direction of the maximum water vapour transport (WVT) within the atmospheric boundary layer. The WVT height is used as indicator for the WVT interacting with the cloud, which is categorized as cloud-coupled or decoupled. The MPC properties are classified according to the presence of high or low pressure systems and analysed as a function of SIC. Results highlight which MPC properties do increase in magnitude as SIC decreases. The long-term time series evolution shows positive and negative trends in MPC properties, depending on the coupling status and the atmospheric pressure system. The study found statistically significant positive trends suggesting an increase of sea ice-MPC coupled liquid water path (+35.0±0.9 g m-2 decade-1), cloud base height (+44.0±0.7 m decade-1) and cloud top temperature (+2.2±0.7 K decade-1) under low pressure weather systems. It has been revealed that the evolution of MPC properties presents cyclical characteristics and it is hypothesized that those are in phase with climate oscillations like ENSO or PDO. Although the results support this hypothesis, a direct causation is not trivial.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2327', Anonymous Referee #1, 08 Aug 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2327', Anonymous Referee #2, 10 Oct 2025
In this manuscript, the authors analyze observations from the ARM North Slope of Alaska site and try to relate the local cloud observations to the sea ice concentration (SIC) upstream. While the research question could be of interest, the study is not performed in a rigorous way, at least not based on the information provided, and therefore, the results can not be trusted. Even if the analysis is correct, the way they are presented only provides an incremental step in the understanding of the Arctic system. The authors need to collaborate with experts on atmospheric processes in the boundary layer, clouds and the large-scale circulation to formulate relevant questions and design of the analysis.
The manuscript is full of uncertainties of what is actually done in the analyses, here, I only mention a few. First, Table 1 lists all datasets and the time resolution varies from 1 s to 1 day. In the following analysis, there is no information on what time resolution of the data is used. It seems like the data points in Figure 3 are monthly although the caption says weekly averages. Turning to Figure 2, what is the resolution of the data points that are behind this analysis? It is also very strange to have a so non-linear SIC division, does the distribution really support that? How can the confidence interval be so small when the bars show 50% of the data points? In this figure, I see no motivation for the chosen function – it could just as well be fitted with a straight line. To me it suggests that you have decided that the cloud parameters should be a function of the SIC and then you do your best to divide the dataset in such a way that you think that is what you see. The relationship is much more complex than that and the seasonality in the airmasses entering the Arctic over the season have a strong cycle, thus the temperature has a strong cycle and so has the LWP and IWP along with the SIC.
In conclusion, the study is not well motivated, nor well performed and the results, if they are correct, are not of interest to the community. Statements towards the end of the conclusion section illustrates my point. ”This study put into consideration empirical mathematical models derived from long-term observations as parameterization for the modelling of atmospheric boundary layer MPC ascribed to Arctic sea ice conditions. We suggest that the sea ice-atmospheric feedback processes that are represented in Arctic weather and climate models certainly should aim to mirror the complexity of relationships that the present study has uncovered. This implies the consideration of not only small-scale horizontal moist air mass transport that serves as physical link between sea ice openings and clouds downstream, but also weather patterns, atmospheric circulation processes, intra- and multi-decadal climate oscillations, and teleconnections between the Arctic and lower latitudes”
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2327-RC2
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Review of “Observed modulation of wintertime Western Arctic mixed-phase cloud properties by sea ice conditions, their long-term variabilities and trends” by Pablo Saavedra Garfias and Heike Kalesse-Los.
In this study, the authors provide observational evidence that Arctic cloud properties are strongly related to sea ice concentration (for coupled cases). The analysis also present the long-term trends of Arctic cloud properties, and reveals that the evolution of cloud properties presents cyclical characteristics. The results are interesting and the paper is generally well written, my specific and minor comments are listed below for the authors to consider.
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