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Hillslope subsurface flow is driven by vegetation more than soil properties in colonized valley moraines along a humid mountain elevation
Abstract. Valley moraines along an elevation gradient are colonized by different climax vegetation, where preferential flow paths (PFPs) and ground layer, as important hillslope structures, significantly influence hillslope flow. However, the roles of these hillslope structures in flow dynamics and the underlying mechanisms in contrasting ultimate forests within moraines remains enigmatic. To this end, we conceptualized PFPs and the ground layer as explicit elements in the HYDRUS 2D model, constructing set-ups of hillslope internal structures that incorporate an optional ground layer and varying intensities of PFPs using the random placement method to represent the shallow root zone (0–50 cm) of vegetated moraines. The results showed that, out of the 50 set-ups in each forest type, only 3 set-ups in the coniferous forest and 2 set-ups in the broadleaf forest successfully predicted the dynamics and water balance of the hydrological response at the event scale. Notably, all 5 successful set-ups featured below-average vertically connected PFPs that were only 5% of total spatial area in both forests, following the principle of maximum free energy dissipation, which is achieved when flow passes through a network composed of partial PFPs and steepened soil matrix gradient. The similar percentage of PFPs between forest types is attributed to similar coarse-textured soils, which resulted from frequent precipitation and clay washout, as well as comparable fine root in both forests. In addition, a linear relationship between vertical PFPs and hillslope flow was observed in both forests, with the coniferous forest being more sensitive to changes in the vertical PFPs due to lower soil organic matter. The presence of ground layer caused the PFPs to be buried, reduced the exchange between PFPs and soil matrix due to fast lateral flow towards downslope within the ground layer, leading to earlier peak flow timing and increased peak flow. This study highlights the roles of the ground layer and the fine root from vegetation in influencing subsurface flow, advancing our understanding of hillslope structures and runoff evolution over time in humid valley moraines.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1254', Anonymous Referee #1, 31 May 2025
Greetings. The manuscript entitled “Hillslope subsurface flow is driven by vegetation more than soil Properties in colonized valley moraines along a humid mountain elevation” deals with the role of the vegetation, and its potential prevalent impact, on subsurface flow pathways. The structure and goals are clear, and the results offering is well-suited. This paper can for sure be published after some adjustments, listed below. I think that these itemized improvements would make the work more scientifically sound and robust. These considerations come from my expertise as a hydrogeologist, so they will pertain to this sphere of competency. Best regards.
- It is interesting to notice that the root structures are highly spatially heterogeneous, while the soil layers that have been taken are (if I understood correctly) homogeneous. This setup is highly debatable and should be sustained somehow. We know that the first dozen of centimeters below ground are highly randomly formed and have a lot (a lot!) of strongly non-homogeneous features (see e.g. Li et al., 2022), like mole-holes, worm-holes, cracks and fissures, small drainage pipes occurring for example, when some roots dry and die. Please comment extensively and adequately within the Introduction and highlight where these points may (or may not) impact the methodology.
- On the other side, I do agree that the roots are (some of the) preferentially heterogeneous features at THIS spatial scale. I would introduce that there may be various scales of inspection, each of them dealing with various features that rule preferential pathways spatial distribution (at the micro-scale, pores irregularity and chemical weathering, as in Shavelzon et al., 2025; at the root scale, roots, mole-holes, etc, as in Li et al., 2022; permeable sediments organized as preferential pathways, as in Schiavo, 2023).
- Were parameters in tables 1 and 2 calibrated?
- Please add R2 coefficients to the fitted data in Figure 4.
- I think that more should be said about preferential pathways at the planar (not vertical) scale. Even if the root apparatus is mainly vertical, its horizontal component, due to the angle of the setup, makes the horizontal highly permeable zone not negligible. This would play as a planar preferential pathway, such as those recognized at the microscale (Shavelzon et al., 2025) and at the catchment scale (Schiavo, 2023). I think that commenting more and relating these works would serve to somehow ‘close the circle’ among different perspectives and spatial scales in hydrology.
- In Figure 5, every time you have a more intense rainfall event, the model somehow slightly fails in predicting the flow. Can you comment on this? Which fixings and adjustments could be implemented?
- My ending feeling is, to be honest, that the absence of flow heterogeneity plays a crucial role in letting the root apparatus play a major role in the subsurface flow. I think more work should be implemented to convince the reader of this point. How to implement heterogeneity? What about the vast literature implementing Monte Carlo-based models to deal with the inherent groundwater heterogeneity, which is due to geological heterogeneity?
References:
Li, W., Germaine, J. T., & Einstein, H. H. (2022). A three-dimensional study of wormhole formation in a porous medium: Wormhole length scaling and a Rankine ovoid model. Water Resources Research, 58, e2021WR030627. https://doi.org/10.1029/2021WR030627
Schiavo, M., 2023. Entropy, fractality, and thermodynamics of groundwater pathways. J. Hydrol. 617 (4), 128930. DOI: 10.1016/j.jhydrol.2022.128930
Further reading:
Shavelzon, E., Edery, Y., and Zehe, E., 2025. Linking evolution of preferential flow paths, transport self-organization and chemical weathering in porous media using non-equilibrium thermodynamics. Goldschmidt 2025 Conference, Prague.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-1254-RC1 - AC3: 'Reply on RC1', Fei Wang, 15 Jul 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1254', Anonymous Referee #2, 16 Jun 2025
Dear authors,
this work is interesting and could bring a valuable contribution to the scientific discussion about hillslope hydrology. In my opinion it could be published after some adjustments.
Please find my edits in the attached file, plus I quote every single note by Ref#1 and I suggest you double check the writing of the entire manuscript one more time, as some sentences make little sense and I am not sure some words are used properly.
Regards
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AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Fei Wang, 15 Jul 2025
Publisher’s note: this comment is a copy of AC2 and its content was therefore removed on 16 July 2025.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-1254-AC1 - AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Fei Wang, 15 Jul 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Fei Wang, 15 Jul 2025
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1254', Anonymous Referee #1, 31 May 2025
Greetings. The manuscript entitled “Hillslope subsurface flow is driven by vegetation more than soil Properties in colonized valley moraines along a humid mountain elevation” deals with the role of the vegetation, and its potential prevalent impact, on subsurface flow pathways. The structure and goals are clear, and the results offering is well-suited. This paper can for sure be published after some adjustments, listed below. I think that these itemized improvements would make the work more scientifically sound and robust. These considerations come from my expertise as a hydrogeologist, so they will pertain to this sphere of competency. Best regards.
- It is interesting to notice that the root structures are highly spatially heterogeneous, while the soil layers that have been taken are (if I understood correctly) homogeneous. This setup is highly debatable and should be sustained somehow. We know that the first dozen of centimeters below ground are highly randomly formed and have a lot (a lot!) of strongly non-homogeneous features (see e.g. Li et al., 2022), like mole-holes, worm-holes, cracks and fissures, small drainage pipes occurring for example, when some roots dry and die. Please comment extensively and adequately within the Introduction and highlight where these points may (or may not) impact the methodology.
- On the other side, I do agree that the roots are (some of the) preferentially heterogeneous features at THIS spatial scale. I would introduce that there may be various scales of inspection, each of them dealing with various features that rule preferential pathways spatial distribution (at the micro-scale, pores irregularity and chemical weathering, as in Shavelzon et al., 2025; at the root scale, roots, mole-holes, etc, as in Li et al., 2022; permeable sediments organized as preferential pathways, as in Schiavo, 2023).
- Were parameters in tables 1 and 2 calibrated?
- Please add R2 coefficients to the fitted data in Figure 4.
- I think that more should be said about preferential pathways at the planar (not vertical) scale. Even if the root apparatus is mainly vertical, its horizontal component, due to the angle of the setup, makes the horizontal highly permeable zone not negligible. This would play as a planar preferential pathway, such as those recognized at the microscale (Shavelzon et al., 2025) and at the catchment scale (Schiavo, 2023). I think that commenting more and relating these works would serve to somehow ‘close the circle’ among different perspectives and spatial scales in hydrology.
- In Figure 5, every time you have a more intense rainfall event, the model somehow slightly fails in predicting the flow. Can you comment on this? Which fixings and adjustments could be implemented?
- My ending feeling is, to be honest, that the absence of flow heterogeneity plays a crucial role in letting the root apparatus play a major role in the subsurface flow. I think more work should be implemented to convince the reader of this point. How to implement heterogeneity? What about the vast literature implementing Monte Carlo-based models to deal with the inherent groundwater heterogeneity, which is due to geological heterogeneity?
References:
Li, W., Germaine, J. T., & Einstein, H. H. (2022). A three-dimensional study of wormhole formation in a porous medium: Wormhole length scaling and a Rankine ovoid model. Water Resources Research, 58, e2021WR030627. https://doi.org/10.1029/2021WR030627
Schiavo, M., 2023. Entropy, fractality, and thermodynamics of groundwater pathways. J. Hydrol. 617 (4), 128930. DOI: 10.1016/j.jhydrol.2022.128930
Further reading:
Shavelzon, E., Edery, Y., and Zehe, E., 2025. Linking evolution of preferential flow paths, transport self-organization and chemical weathering in porous media using non-equilibrium thermodynamics. Goldschmidt 2025 Conference, Prague.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-1254-RC1 - AC3: 'Reply on RC1', Fei Wang, 15 Jul 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1254', Anonymous Referee #2, 16 Jun 2025
Dear authors,
this work is interesting and could bring a valuable contribution to the scientific discussion about hillslope hydrology. In my opinion it could be published after some adjustments.
Please find my edits in the attached file, plus I quote every single note by Ref#1 and I suggest you double check the writing of the entire manuscript one more time, as some sentences make little sense and I am not sure some words are used properly.
Regards
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AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Fei Wang, 15 Jul 2025
Publisher’s note: this comment is a copy of AC2 and its content was therefore removed on 16 July 2025.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-1254-AC1 - AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Fei Wang, 15 Jul 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Fei Wang, 15 Jul 2025
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