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Polar winter climate change: strong local effects from sea ice loss, widespread consequences from warming seas
Abstract. Decreasing sea ice cover and warming sea surface temperatures (SSTs) impact polar climate in uncertain ways. We aim to reduce the uncertainty by comparing output from four 41-year simulations with four Atmospheric General Circulation Models (AGCMs). In our baseline simulations, the models use identical prescribed SSTs and sea ice cover conditions representative of 1950–1969. In three sensitivity experiments, the SSTs and sea ice cover are individually and simultaneously changed to conditions representative of 2080–2099 in a strong warming scenario. Overall, the models agree that warmer SSTs have a widespread impact on 2 m temperature and precipitation while decreasing sea ice cover mainly causes a local response (i.e. largest effect where the sea ice perturbation occurs). Thus, decreasing sea ice cover causes a larger change in precipitation and temperature than warmer SSTs in areas where sea ice cover is reduced while warmer SSTs dominate the response elsewhere. In general, the response in temperature and precipitation to simultaneous changes in SSTs and sea ice cover is approximately equal to the sum due to individual changes, except in areas of sea ice decrease where the joint effect is smaller than the sum of the individual effects. The models agree less well on the magnitude and spatial distribution of the response in mean sea level pressure, i.e. uncertainties associated with atmospheric circulation responses are larger than uncertainties associated with thermodynamic responses. Furthermore, the circulation response to decreasing sea ice cover is sometimes significantly enhanced but sometimes counteracted by the response to warmer SSTs.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3458', Anonymous Referee #1, 24 Dec 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3458', Anonymous Referee #2, 20 Jan 2025
Review for “Polar winter climate change: strong local effects from sea ice loss, widespread consequences from warming seas” by Naakka et al.
Summary
This manuscript presents sea ice and SST experiments conducted with four global climate models to evaluate the effects of sea ice loss, SST warming, and their nonlinear (or residual) contributions. Key findings include: (1) Decreasing sea ice cover has a larger impact on precipitation and temperature changes in regions where sea ice is reduced, while SST warming dominates the response elsewhere. (2) Nonlinear contributions are relatively small. (3) There is significant inter-model variability in the magnitude and spatial distribution of mean sea level pressure (MSLP) responses. Additionally, the circulation responses from sea ice loss and SST warming can counteract each other in certain regions. Overall, the topic is interesting and the findings also align with previous studies. However, the authors should provide greater context by discussing relevant literature, particularly from PAMIP-related work, and clearly highlight the novelty of their contribution. A major revision is recommended.
General Comments
(1) My initial reaction to this manuscript is that the authors are aware of the Polar Amplification Model Intercomparison Project (PAMIP) experiments but chose not to leverage the available PAMIP datasets, which include more climate models and larger ensemble sizes (100 to 300 members). While the authors’ modeling efforts are extensive, the novel insights gained from their experiments appear limited. The authors shared details on the difference of their experimental design from PAMIP protocol and I would encourage them to clarify more on what additional information they have found from these new experiments.
(2) Partly related to the first comment, many of the findings presented in this manuscript have already been explored in the context of PAMIP experiments. For instance, the impacts of sea ice loss and SST warming on atmospheric circulation, as well as the role of nonlinearity, have been examined by Yu et al. (2024) using PAMIP data. The authors should explicitly highlight the novel aspects of their findings to distinguish their work from existing studies and demonstrate its unique contribution.
(3) PAMIP recommends using ensemble sizes of at least 100 members, which has been shown to be barely sufficient for capturing the atmospheric circulation response (e.g., Peings et al. 2021; Sun et al. 2022). In contrast, the authors’ simulations are based on a 40-year mean, which could be significantly influenced by internal variability. This could complicate model comparisons and potentially explain the disagreement in regional MSLP patterns, as seen in Fig. 3 and other spatial maps. The authors should address the limitations associated with their smaller ensemble size and clarify how they account for internal variability.
Minor Comments
Lines 91-92: The statement, “In addition, the PAMIP experiments were designed to study causes and consequences of Arctic amplification in present-day climate, while our simulation setup is aimed at a future warmer climate,” is incorrect. PAMIP includes preindustrial, present-day, and future experiments. Please revise for accuracy.
Lines 92-95: The description, “Furthermore, we examined the multi-model response to changes in prescribed SSTs and sea ice cover without any influence from model-specific differences in these variables…” is somewhat confusing. It is unclear how these experiments differ from PAMIP aside from using a larger forcing scenario (2080-2099 versus ~2040-2060 for 2°C warming). Please clarify.
Figure 8 and Associated Descriptions: The atmospheric circulation response to Arctic sea ice loss and SST in this study appears different from the PAMIP experiments, as shown by Yu et al. (2024). Specifically, the lack of a negative NAO-like pattern over the North Atlantic-Eurasian region warrants an explanation. Could this discrepancy be due to differences in experimental design or internal variability?
Reference:
Peings, Y., Labe, Z. M., & Magnusdottir, G. (2021). Are 100 ensemble members enough to capture the remote atmospheric response to +2°C Arctic sea ice loss? Journal of Climate, 34(10), 3751–3769. https://doi.org/10.1175/jcli-d-20-0613.1
Sun, L., Deser, C., Simpson, I., & Sigmond, M. (2022). Uncertainty in the winter tropospheric response to Arctic Sea ice loss: The role of stratospheric polar vortex internal variability. Journal of Climate, 35(10), 3109–3130. https://doi.org/10.1175/jcli-d-21-0543.1
Yu, H., J. A. Screen, M. Xu, S. Hay, and J. L. Catto, 2024: Comparing the Atmospheric Responses to Reduced Arctic Sea Ice, a Warmer Ocean, and Increased CO2 and Their Contributions to Projected Change at 2°C Global Warming. J. Climate, 37, 6367–6380, https://doi.org/10.1175/JCLI-D-24-0104.1
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-3458-RC2
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