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https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-3164
https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-3164
15 Jan 2024
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On dissipation time scales of the basic second-order moments: the effect on the Energy and Flux-Budget (EFB) turbulence closure for stably stratified turbulence

Evgeny Kadantsev, Evgeny Mortikov, Andrey Glazunov, Nathan Kleeorin, and Igor Rogachevskii

Abstract. The dissipation rates of the basic turbulent second-order moments are the key parameters controlling turbulence energetics and spectra, turbulent fluxes of momentum and heat, and playing a vital role in turbulence modelling. In this paper, we use the results of Direct Numerical Simulations (DNS) to evaluate dissipation rates of the basic turbulent second-order moments and revise the energy and flux-budget turbulence closure model for stably stratified turbulence. We delve into the theoretical implications of this approach and substantiate our closure hypotheses through DNS data. We also show why the concept of down-gradient turbulent transport becomes incomplete when applied to the vertical turbulent flux of potential temperature under very stable stratification. We reveal essential feedback between turbulent kinetic energy, the vertical flux of buoyancy and turbulent potential energy, which is responsible for maintaining shear-produced stably stratified turbulence up to extreme static stability.

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Evgeny Kadantsev, Evgeny Mortikov, Andrey Glazunov, Nathan Kleeorin, and Igor Rogachevskii

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  • RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-3164', Anonymous Referee #1, 28 Jan 2024
    • AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Evgeny Kadantsev, 28 Apr 2024
  • RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-3164', Anonymous Referee #2, 27 Feb 2024
    • AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Evgeny Kadantsev, 28 Apr 2024
  • RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-3164', Anonymous Referee #3, 17 Mar 2024
    • AC1: 'Reply on RC3', Evgeny Kadantsev, 28 Apr 2024
Evgeny Kadantsev, Evgeny Mortikov, Andrey Glazunov, Nathan Kleeorin, and Igor Rogachevskii
Evgeny Kadantsev, Evgeny Mortikov, Andrey Glazunov, Nathan Kleeorin, and Igor Rogachevskii

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Our study investigates how turbulence behaves in stable conditions using direct numerical simulations. We found that rethinking how energy dissipates in these situations is crucial. By revising existing models, we uncovered limitations in understanding how temperature is transported vertically in very stable conditions. We focused on how turbulence works in extreme stability offering new insights that could improve our understanding of natural phenomena affected by stable atmospheric conditions.