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From cloud optical thickness to solar radiation: deep spatiotemporal forecasting with geostationary satellite imagery
Abstract. Accurate short-term cloud forecasting is essential for solar radiation and solar energy applications, where rapidly evolving cloud fields introduce substantial variability in surface solar irradiance. In this study, we develop a hybrid ConvLSTM-UNet deep learning model for 15-min-ahead forecasting of cloud optical thickness (COT) from Meteosat/SEVIRI observations over Europe. The model combines multiscale spatial feature extraction with recurrent spatiotemporal learning and employs a combined Charbonnier–SSIM loss to improve both numerical accuracy and the preservation of cloud structures. The proposed forecasting model is evaluated against real COT satellite retrievals and benchmarked against persistence and a dense optical flow cloud motion vector (CMV) approach. For 15-min-ahead forecasts, ConvLSTM-UNet achieves lower COT prediction errors and higher perceptual quality than both benchmarks, with MAE and RMSE of 1.25 and 9.52, respectively, and SSIM of 0.95. The impact of COT forecast errors on solar radiation is further assessed through the cloud modification factor (CMF), for which the proposed model achieves a forecast skill of approximately 30 % relative to persistence. Its performance advantage is particularly evident under cloudy and rapidly evolving conditions, and remains evident under recursive forecasts extending to approximately 165 min ahead. These results demonstrate the potential of deep spatiotemporal learning for satellite-based short-term cloud and solar radiation forecasting.
Competing interests: At least one of the (co-)authors is a member of the editorial board of Atmospheric Measurement Techniques.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-5862', Anonymous Referee #1, 30 Oct 2026 reply
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-5862', Anonymous Referee #2, 02 Nov 2026
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Overall, the manuscript is technically well written, and the concepts and methods are generally explained clearly. I have reservations about its scientific contribution however. The methods employed are well established, and the novelty of the proposed approach is not sufficiently demonstrated.
Furthermore, the verification of the model output is somewhat limited. I would encourage the authors to consider additional metrics that explicitly quantify the spatial structure and realism of the predicted cloud fields. There are also several instances where relatively strong claims are made about the model's capabilities without sufficient supporting evidence.
In my opinion, the manuscript would benefit from placing greater emphasis on multi-step forecasting. At a lead time of only 15 minutes, cloud evolution is largely dominated by advection and persistence, limiting what can be concluded about the model's ability to learn more complex spatiotemporal dynamics. Although recursive forecasts at longer lead times are presented, a more thorough investigation of this aspect would considerably strengthen the scientific value of the study. Producing accurate forecasts over extended time horizons is undoubtedly more challenging, but demonstrating this capability would also make the contribution more convincing.
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The overall novelty of the paper is moderate, as similar work has been reported extensively and the contributions are not sufficiently distinctive. I believe the focus should be placed on SSIM, since this is the core variable of direct interest for photovoltaic power generation; however, it is also worth weighing whether predicting COD is more convenient in implementation. Overall, the review comments are fairly positive, and the development of the relevant field is reviewed clearly and systematically, providing a good basis for revision. The paper requires some revision before it can be published.
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