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Theory for Optically Observing Cloud Aerosol Critical Activation Diameter
Abstract. Aerosol activation is the fundamental microphysical process governing cloud droplet formation. The critical activation diameter, π·π, is a key parameter that characterizes cloud supersaturation and aerosol activation and serves as a fundamental variable in simulations of aerosol–cloud interactions. Kuang et al. (2025) proposed a machine-learning framework for the instantaneous retrieval of π·π from spectral scattering measurements of interstitial and activated aerosols. However, the lack of a rigorous theoretical foundation has limited the understanding of the method's physical basis, applicability, and limitations in field observations. Here, we establish the missing theoretical foundation by integrating aerosol activation theory with Mie scattering theory to derive a unified closed-form solution linking optical scattering to the π·π. The resulting theory provides the first analytical explanation for the approximately linear relationship between π·π and the scattering fraction of interstitial aerosols reported by Kuang et al. (2025), while also revealing the strongly nonlinear behavior near the limiting scattering regimes. Furthermore, the theoretical detection limit of the optical approach is quantified, and its potential applicability to different cloud types is evaluated. Overall, this work provides a rigorous theoretical foundation for optical observations of cloud aerosol activation. The unified analytical solution bridges all limiting regimes, clarifies the physical basis of optical retrievals of the critical activation diameter, and offers theoretical guidance for the design and optimization of future optical instruments for cloud activation measurements.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-5325', Anonymous Referee #1, 07 Oct 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-5325', Anonymous Referee #2, 26 Oct 2026
This manuscript presents a theoretical framework for retrieving the critical activation diameter of cloud aerosols from optical scattering measurements. By combining aerosol activation theory with Mie scattering theory, the authors derive an analytical relationship between the critical activation diameter and the scattering fraction of interstitial aerosols. The study provides a useful theoretical explanation for the optical retrieval approach previously proposed by Kuang et al. (2025), while also exploring its nonlinear behavior and potential detection limits.
Overall, I find the manuscript interesting, scientifically relevant, and generally well organized. The theoretical development is valuable and provides useful insights into the potential application of high-time-resolution optical measurements for investigating aerosolβcloud interactions. I believe the manuscript is suitable for publication following clarification of several points.
Q1. The analytical derivation relies on a lognormal aerosol volume size distribution and a local power-law approximation of Mie scattering efficiency. It would be helpful if the authors could further discuss the applicability of these assumptions under more complex atmospheric aerosol conditions, particularly for multimodal size distributions and variations in aerosol refractive index.
Q2. Eq. (16) shows that the retrieved Da depends not only on fsp and SAE but also on MAF, Οg and Οa. However, these parameters are held fixed in Fig. 1b (MAF = 1, Οa = 1.2, Οg = 1.8), and the linear formula in Fig. 2a additionally assumes SAE = 1.2. A sensitivity analysis would help clarify which parameters must be constrained in practice, for example by showing how k and b in Eqs. (17)β(18), or the retrieved Da, vary over realistic ranges of MAF, Οg and Οa. This is also relevant to the statement in Lines 182β183 that the retrieval βrequires only optical inputsβ, since Οg, Οa and MAF cannot be obtained directly from optical measurements. In addition, I suggest testing the full Eq. (16) against the field observations, using the observed SAE and the fitted Οg for each data point rather than a fixed SAE. Such a comparison would validate the analytical theory more directly than Fig. 2b, because the random-forest models there are trained on simulations based on the same Mie framework, so their better performance alone does not confirm the analytical solution.
Q3. The field evaluation is based on fog observations from a single polluted continental site (AQ-SOFAR). The authors should discuss how well the approach transfers to other cloud environments. First, the SAE parameterization (Eq. 21) and the fixed parameter values come from North China Plain conditions. They may not hold for marine, remote or biomass-burning aerosols, which can differ in size distribution, refractive index and mixing state, for example MAF < 1. Second, at low supersaturation, non-activated particles may grow beyond the inlet cut size (Lines 364β371). At high supersaturation, Da approaches the detection limit. Turbulence-driven fluctuations may also broaden the activation curve.
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Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-5325-RC2
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This work presents a theoretical foundation for retrieving the aerosol cloud condensation nuclei critical diameter Da from spectral light scattering measurements of interstitial and activated aerosols. The research is a follow-up to the Kuang (2025) paper, and combines aerosol activation theory with Mie scattering theory to derive a unified closed-form solution linking optical scattering to the Da to the scattering ratio fsp of interstitial aerosols divided by the total sub-micron scattering. The theoretical basis is solidly outlined in Sect. 2.1, leading to an explicit relationship between fsp and critical activation diameter Da (Eq.16). The authors acknowledge the practical difficulties in using this equation and further derived approximations, including a linear approximation between Da and fsp that was shown to work over a large fsp range (~0.20-0.80) that often occurred during the field campaign conditions in the North China Sea. Measured and calculated Da demonstrated a fairly strong correlation (R2=0.57) when the linear approximation was used to calculate Da. The correlation between measured and calculated Da was improved upon (R2=0.83) when the machine learning model (Kuang, 2025) was used. The machine-learning framework developed by Kuang et al. (2025) provides a practical implementation by incorporating the nonlinear and multidimensional dependencies revealed by the theory, including the effect of scattering Angstrom exponent on the relationship between Da and fsp. The paper provides a thorough summary of the physical limitations and applicability of the optical retrieval of Da from aerosol light scattering measurements, discussed by (Kuang et al., 2025). I believe that the paper could contribute to improved understanding of CCN activation in/near clouds and recommend publication. I would like to see some discussion of the measurements used to train and evaluate the ML model to predict Da would be helpful, even if in the Supplement. The authors cite the Kuang (2018) and Kuang (2025) papers so only a brief section is needed.