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Revisiting the thermodynamic derivation of the Penman-Monteith Equation
Abstract. The Penman‑Monteith (PM) equation is the most commonly used method for determining latent heat fluxes (λE) from vegetated land surfaces and is regarded as a best practice for calculating evapotranspiration. It is based on a general energy balance approach, in which evaporation is derived indirectly by approximating the sensible heat flux (SH). The temperature difference between the surface and the near-surface air, which drives SH and is required to compute the heat flux, is eliminated from the associated system of equations by introducing the slope of the saturation vapor pressure curve at the air temperature (sTa). However, in the PM equation this slope does not describe, in the original sense, a change in the thermodynamic state of a system; rather, it represents the ratio of a spatial heat and a constructed moisture potential difference between the surface and the near-surface air. In the thermodynamic derivation of the PM equation by Monteith (1965), this apparent physical inaccuracy is resolved by describing the evaporation process not anymore through classical flux‑gradient relationships but through the thermodynamic state change of the near‑surface air. This derivation, however, is based on the assumption that the sensible heat flux from the surface heats the air mass into which evaporation occurs. This heat input increases the saturation vapor pressure of the near-surface air, allowing the partitioning of SH and λE according to sTa. For vegetated surfaces this assumption does not hold, because the phase transition during transpiration occurs into the air inside the leaf and not into the air close to the surface, into which the sensible heat flux takes place. For the air inside a leaf, however, the sensible heat flux into the atmosphere does not constitute an energy input but rather an energy sink; therefore Monteith’s (1965) thermodynamic concept cannot be transferred to vegetated surfaces. Thus, the use of sTa to partition the available energy at the surface can only be physically justified for water saturated, unvegetated surfaces and the PM equation should therefore be applied only under such conditions.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-4783', Anonymous Referee #1, 16 Oct 2026
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The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2026/egusphere-2026-4783/egusphere-2026-4783-RC1-supplement.pdfReplyCitation: https://doi.org/
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Marcus Breil, 27 Oct 2026
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The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2026/egusphere-2026-4783/egusphere-2026-4783-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Marcus Breil, 27 Oct 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-4783', Anonymous Referee #2, 22 Oct 2026
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Review of the manuscript 'Revisiting the Thermodynamic Derivation of the Penman-Monteith Equation'.
Recommendation: Reject.
The manuscript argues that the Penman-Monteith equation cannot be applied to vegetation, based on the premise that the evaporative conditions within stomata differ from those of unvegetated surfaces. I have a few rather major concerns about this manuscript that prevent me from recommending acceptance or even a revision:
1. The author's sweeping claim is not substantiated by any comparison with observations; it is pure speculation. While it is widely recognised that there are problems with the Penman-Monteith equation (see the recent literature on the subject), the author focuses on one small aspect and does not demonstrate that this is indeed a problem or that his approach can solve it. He also makes further unsubstantiated claims, such as 'This diffusive water vapour transport [from the stomata to the air] reduces the water vapour concentration within the leaf...'. As far as I am aware, observations show that the interior air space of stomata is practically maintained at saturation. If the author knows better, then he would need to support this by references/observations.
2. The manuscript contains grave errors of understanding concerning the land-atmosphere system, particularly with regard to the surface energy balance, turbulent fluxes and the evaporation process. First and foremost, evaporation requires energy because this is needed to break the hydrogen bonds between water molecules. This energy is primarily supplied by the heating of the surface through solar radiation, regardless of whether the surface is vegetated. It certainly does NOT come from the sensible heat flux, as claimed in the manuscript. Furthermore, it is NOT the temperature difference between the surface and the atmosphere that drives the sensible heat flux because this temperature difference is not an independent driving force, but rather the result of surface energy balance partitioning in conjunction with convective boundary layer development. Much of the author's formulation reflects the common misunderstanding that originates from forcing turbulent fluxes into a diffusive form.
I could list many smaller points that are problematic (e.g. that most of the text describes textbook knowledge), but I will spare you these as they would distract from the most relevant points. Even if the author were able to substantiate some of his points with observations and correct some of his physics, the result would be a rather different manuscript. For this reason, the paper cannot be published and must be rejected.
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Marcus Breil, 27 Oct 2026
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RC3: 'Reply on AC2', Anonymous Referee #2, 28 Oct 2026
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I do not see a sufficient response by the author. The author showed practically no effort or willingness to address my concerns to show that his speculation is worth considering by supporting it with observations and estimates and comparing it to other biases that are already documented in the literature for the Penman-Monteith equation. My judgment to reject this paper without reconsideration stands as it is, and I am not willing to spend more time on this.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-4783-RC3
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RC3: 'Reply on AC2', Anonymous Referee #2, 28 Oct 2026
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Marcus Breil, 27 Oct 2026
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CC1: 'On the assumption that the interior air space of stomata is saturated', Bich Ngoc Tran, 28 Oct 2026
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Regarding the assumption that the interior air space of stomata is practically maintained at saturation, recent studies in plant physiology have refuted this assumption, which would support your argument. For example:
Cernusak, L.A., Ubierna, N., Jenkins, M.W., Garrity, S.R., Rahn, T., Powers, H.H., Hanson, D.T., Sevanto, S., Wong, S.C., McDowell, N.G. and Farquhar, G.D., 2018. Unsaturation of vapour pressure inside leaves of two conifer species. Scientific reports, 8(1), p.7667.
Wong, S.C., Canny, M.J., Holloway-Phillips, M., Stuart-Williams, H., Cernusak, L.A., Márquez, D.A. and Farquhar, G.D., 2022. Humidity gradients in the air spaces of leaves. Nature Plants, 8(8), pp.971-978.
Rockwell, F.E., Holbrook, N.M., Jain, P., Huber, A.E., Sen, S. and Stroock, A.D., 2022. Extreme undersaturation in the intercellular airspace of leaves: a failure of Gaastra or Ohm?. Annals of Botany, 130(3), pp.301-316.
Cernusak, L.A., Wong, S.C., Stuart‐Williams, H., Márquez, D.A., Pontarin, N. and Farquhar, G.D., 2024. Unsaturation in the air spaces of leaves and its implications. Plant, Cell & Environment, 47(10), pp.3685-3698.
Márquez, D.A., Wong, S.C., Stuart-Williams, H., Cernusak, L.A. and Farquhar, G.D., 2024. Mesophyll airspace unsaturation drives C4 plant success under vapor pressure deficit stress. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 121(39), p.e2402233121.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-4783-CC1
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