Enhanced ocean mixing improves proxy-model agreement for an Early Pliocene seasonally ice-free Arctic Ocean

Knies, Jochen; Stepanek, Christian; Belt, Simon T.; De Schepper, Stijn; Lohmann, Gerrit

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Enhanced ocean mixing improves proxy-model agreement for an Early Pliocene seasonally ice-free Arctic Ocean

Jochen Knies, Christian Stepanek, Simon T. Belt, Stijn De Schepper, and Gerrit Lohmann

Abstract. The Arctic Ocean rapidly transitions towards ice-free summers, a "blue" (i.e., summer sea ice-free) state driven by Arctic amplification of abrupt global warming. To improve climate projections and better understand the consequences of reduced Arctic sea ice in a warming climate, it is essential to examine past warm intervals such as the Early Pliocene (~5–4 Ma), when diminished Arctic sea ice coincided with higher global temperatures. Proxy records from the Arctic-Atlantic Gateway (AAG) (~70–80° N), combined with climate model simulations, indicate periodically ice-free summers during this time. Yet, model-data comparisons for the central Arctic Ocean (>80° N) reveal winter sea ice as a persistent feature. Here, we show that proxy evidence for a "blue" Arctic is best reproduced when enhanced vertical ocean mixing is integrated into climate models. Under enhanced mixing, Arctic warming occurs through different mechanisms depending on the model geography, whereas simulations with standard mixing show substantially weaker agreement with proxy evidence. We do not interpret enhanced mixing as the unique solution but rather as a physically motivated sensitivity test that represents unresolved ocean processes. Our results demonstrate that modifying a single ocean parameterization within physically plausible boundaries substantially improves proxy-model agreement for a warmer than modern Early Pliocene, both at the AAG and for the wider Arctic. Combined with published proxy evidence for a warmer Arctic Ocean interior, our findings underscore the need for improved representation of ocean dynamics in paleoclimate simulations. Next-generation climate models should evaluate the sensitivity of simulated "blue" Arctic climates to ocean mixing alongside other key processes, including cloud microphysics and radiative feedbacks, to increase confidence in projections of seasonally ice-free Arctic conditions

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'Comment on egusphere-2026-4723', Tamara Fletcher, 05 Oct 2026

General Comments
Arctic data-model mismatch is a pervasive problem that persists across multiple warm-period model intercomparison projects and experimental phases. This manuscript addresses that important discrepancy by asking whether enhanced ocean mixing can help reconcile the model outputs against proxy evidence for Arctic warmth during the Early Pliocene. The study combines previously published proxy records with climate-model experiments bracketing the Early Pliocene and presents a framework linking ocean mixing, heat transport, sea-ice extent, and Arctic amplification. The topic is of broad relevance to both the palaeoclimate and climate-modelling communities.
The manuscript raises an interesting and worthwhile hypothesis regarding the role of unresolved ocean processes in past warm climates and demonstrates that, what seems to be a relatively modest perturbation to ocean-mixing parameterization can substantially improve agreement between simulations and a select number of Arctic terrestrial and marine proxy records. The discussion of contrasting heat-transport pathways in the Miocene and Pliocene model configurations is also a valuable contribution.
My main concerns are: the rationale for an Early Pliocene DMC, incomplete use of Early Pliocene terrestrial data for DMC, and a broad need for expression revision throughout to improve clarity.
Overall, I consider this a valuable contribution that merits publication after the authors address the specific comments below.
Specific Comments
The rationale for why an Early Pliocene DMC is conducted, as opposed to a Miocene and a Late Pliocene study.
Comparison to Early Pliocene proxy evidence for a seasonally ice-free Arctic Ocean appears to be the primary motivation for both the bracketing approach and the focus on the Early Pliocene. If so, this should be stated explicitly from the outset. The manuscript explains why Miocene and mPWP simulations are used to bracket Early Pliocene conditions, but it is less clear why the Early Pliocene is selected as the primary target interval rather than conducting more conventional model-proxy comparisons within the simulated intervals themselves. If the rationale is that geological evidence for a seasonally ice-free ("blue") Arctic is strongest during the Early Pliocene, and that this interval therefore provides the most informative test of model performance and proxy-model agreement, this should be stated explicitly early in the manuscript.
Additionally, the manuscript generally frames the Miocene and mid-Piacenzian experiments appropriately as end-member simulations used to explore Early Pliocene conditions. However, in some places the distinction between the simulated intervals and the target Early Pliocene interval becomes blurred.
Terrestrial model-data comparison appears incomplete
The manuscript's model-data comparison for the wider Arctic relies on only two terrestrial sites: Beaver Pond and Lake El'gygytgyn (lines 89-90; lines 680-698; Fig. 8) as part of the authors claim that enhanced ocean mixing improves agreement "across the wider Arctic realm"
The Lake El'gygytgyn record only beings at the start of the Late Pliocene and does not compare directly to the Early Pliocene. It is currently labelled EP.
Presuming the authors only wish to include sites above >66°N, Tnekveem, an EP site in Siberia, would be useful. If considering sites down to 60ºN, a few other in the same publication, below, could be included.
Late Miocene sites for comparison include: Yanran, Temmirdekh-khaj, Omoloy, and Nekkeveem /early Chattian.
Popova, S., Utescher, T., Gromyko, D., Bruch, A., Mosbrugger, V., 2012. Palaeoclimate Evolution in Siberia and the Russian Far East from the Oligocene to Pliocene – Evidence from Fruit and Seed Floras. TURKISH JOURNAL OF EARTH SCIENCES. 10.3906/yer-1005-6
This list is not likely comprehensive.
I was also surprised not to see other Canadian High Arctic terrestrial records that have been interpreted as Early Pliocene deposits with reconstructions of Arctic warmth, including Banks Island-Beaufort Formation, Prince Partick Island, Fyles Leaf Beds, and more recent papers on Beaver Pond. The absence of Meighen Island, was particularly notable given its relevance to the sea ice discussion:

“In colder environments, Arctica occupies shallower water, so its presence on Meighen Island probably indicates that shelf temperatures at 25–45 m and probably sea- surface temperatures did not fall below 0 °C at any time of the year. This is evidence that the coastal areas of the landmass now partly represented by the Beaufort Formation on Meighen Island did not possess perennial ice cover but more likely had a short season of sea ice.” Barendregt et al. 2021.

Additional Late Pliocene Arctic sites include Niguanak and Bluefish.
If they have not yet, the authors ought to consider the following terrestrial evidence:
Barendregt, R.W., Matthews, J.V., Jr, Behan-Pelletier, V., Brigham-Grette, J., Fyles, J.G., Ovenden, L.E., McNeil, D.H., Brouwers, E., Marincovich, L., Fletcher, T., 2021. Biostratigraphy, age, and the paleoenvironment of the Pliocene Beaufort Formation on Meighen Island, Canadian Arctic Archipelago. Geol. Soc. Am. Special Paper 551, 1–39. https://doi.org/10.1130/2021.2551(01)
Carter, L.D., Christensen, D., Hopkins, D.M., Matthews Jr, J.V., Nelson, R.E., Ovenden, L.E., Rybczynski, N., Fletcher, T.L., 2024. Stratigraphy and paleontology (plant and arthropod fossils) from the Late Neogene Niguanak site, Arctic Slope, Northern Alaska. Arct. Antarct. Alp. Res. 56, 2407714. https://doi.org/10.1080/15230430.2024.2407714
Elias, S.A., Matthews, J.V., Jr., 2002. Arctic North American seasonal temperatures from the latest Miocene to the Early Pleistocene, based on mutual climatic range analysis of fossil beetle assemblages. Can. J. Earth Sci. 39, 911–920. https://doi.org/10.1139/e01-096
Fletcher, T., Feng, R., Telka, A.M., Matthews, J.V., Jr., Ballantyne, A., 2017. Floral dissimilarity and the influence of climate in the Pliocene High Arctic: Biotic and abiotic influences on five sites on the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. Front. Ecol. Evol. 5, 19. https://doi.org/10.3389/fevo.2017.00019
Fletcher, T.L., Csank, A.Z., Ballantyne, A.P., 2019. Identifying bias in cold season temperature reconstructions by beetle mutual climatic range methods in the Pliocene Canadian High Arctic. Palaeogeogr Palaeoclimatol Palaeoecol 514, 672–676. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.palaeo.2018.11.025
Fletcher, T.L., Warden, L., Sinninghe Damsté, J.S., Brown, K.J., Rybczynski, N., Gosse, J.C., Ballantyne, A.P., 2019. Evidence for fire in the Pliocene Arctic in response to amplified temperature. Clim. Past 15, 1063–1081. https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-15-1063-2019
Fletcher, T., Eble, C., Sinninghe Damsté, J.S., Brown, K.J., Rybczynski, N., Gosse, J., Liu, Z., Ballantyne, A., 2021. Widespread wildfire across the Pliocene Canadian Arctic Archipelago. Palaeogeogr Palaeoclimatol Palaeoecol 584, 110653. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.palaeo.2021.110653
Porter, T.J., Anhäuser, T., Halfar, J., Keppler, F., Csank, A.Z., Williams, C.J., 2022. Canadian Arctic Neogene Temperatures Reconstructed From Hydrogen Isotopes of Lignin-Methoxy Groups From Sub-Fossil Wood. Paleoceanogr Paleoclimatol 37, e2021PA004345. https://doi.org/10.1029/2021PA004345
Tindall, J., Haywood, A., Salzmann, U., Dolan, A., Fletcher, T., 2022. The Warm Winter Paradox in the Pliocene Northern High Latitudes. Clim. Past 18, 1385–1405. https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-18-1385-2022
Although this research focuses on sea ice, limited Early Pliocene evidence mean the terrestrial records form an important component of the broader Arctic comparison, thus the authors should clarify the criteria used to select sites for inclusion in Figures 1 and 8 and discuss whether inclusion of additional Arctic terrestrial records would affect their conclusions.
Specifics by line
Line 94: I do not think the cited literature supports the statement that the Pliocene was characterised by "pronounced glacial-interglacial cycles". McClymont et al. (2023), the only citation directly addressing this issue, instead emphasise the progressive development of larger-amplitude climate as particularly following the mPWP, with events from around the start of the Late Pliocene, such as M2 representing exceptions rather than the norm. The current wording gives the impression of Pleistocene-style and scale glacial-interglacial cycling, which does not accurately reflect the current understanding of the generally lower-amplitude climate oscillations during much of the Pliocene, and especially the Early Pliocene. A description reflecting the generally lower-amplitude variability than the late Pliocene and Pleistocene would be aligned with the current literature.

(See also Line 183-186 here, and the IRD record in Figure 2, which appears to conflict).
Line 125: This statement appears to imply that the Early Pliocene differed from the Late Pliocene primarily through higher atmospheric CO₂ concentrations and relatively limited palaeogeographic changes. However, the PlioMIP3 Early Pliocene experiment was designed as a sensitivity experiment incorporating two key differentiating features (increased CO₂ and an open Central American Seaway) while intentionally retaining Late Pliocene boundary conditions elsewhere. It was not intended to represent all likely differences between the Early and Late Pliocene. Did the authors mean that existing Early Pliocene modelling experiments differ from Late Pliocene simulations principally in these respects, rather than implying that these were the only important climatic and palaeogeographic differences between the two intervals?
Line 130: alongside other key boundary condition changes between the mPWP and Miocene Climatic Optimum?
Line 145: Do we have evidence or past studies that suggest vertical mixing parameters based on modern observation don’t or may not hold?
Line 146: I think this is very unclear to a reader, who hasn’t read this Method yet. How are two models an analogue for one.
Line 146–162: This is results and discussion. I don’t think it belongs in the introduction.
Line 167: Needs support.
Line 175: Salzmann et al 2011 is a review focused on the Late Pliocene. It is not a synthesis of Early Pliocene global palaeoenvironments. "The review focuses on the Piacenzian (3.6-2.58 Ma) for which a significant number of proxy data and modelling studies are now available..."
Line 182: Ought to note that forest expansion (not necessarily evergreen – possibly larch dominant in at least some regions), agrees with proxy data. See, for example, this review of Arctic NA Neogene flora
Fletcher, T.L., Telka, A., Rybczynski, N., Matthews, J.V., Jr, 2021. Neogene and early Pleistocene flora from Alaska and Arctic/Subarctic Canada: New data, intercontinental comparisons and correlations. Palaeontol Electron 24, a07. https://doi.org/10.26879/1121Line 192: Also https://doi.org/10.1130/2021.2551(01)
Line 207: Useful articles overlooked here, as per 1, above.
Line 227: Useful articles overlooked here, as per 1, above.
Line 356: This contradicts the 470 ppm CO2 for the Early Pliocene cited at line 164.
Line 362: Presumably MIO also has several other important differences in boundary conditions. Note the main ones?
Line 388: Any reason why? Also, how does this study differ from Lohmann et al. 2022.?
Line 403: Was this chosen as the models appeared to be at equilibrium, because it is a standard used this this model, or was this a more pragmatic decision?
Line 564: This section opens with uncertainty, and then seems to describe a quite certain timeline. Are parts of this settled and other parts not?
Line 653: Relies throughout on the reader having previously read Lohmann et al 2022. While, of course, not every details should be repeated, it seems some key information should be included that explains the authors choices: Why use only the lowest value from Lohmann et al 2022? Is this the most like according to observations or mechanistic modelling?
Figure 8: See above discussion of missing potential terrestrial proxy sites for DMC.
Figure 12 caption Line 882: the use of the term "implied" for ocean meridional heat transport is unclear. As described in Section 3.3, both the total and oceanic transports are diagnostically inferred from integrated fluxes rather than directly calculated from model transport fields. Consider clarifying the terminology in the caption and figure legend, or using consistent terminology for all inferred transport quantities.
Line 925: Directly relevant paper:

Feng, R., Otto‐Bliesner, B.L., Xu, Y., Brady, E., Fletcher, T., Ballantyne, A., 2019. Contributions of aerosol‐cloud interactions to mid‐Piacenzian seasonally sea ice‐free Arctic Ocean. Geophys. Res. Lett. 46, 9920–9929. https://doi.org/10.1029/2019gl083960
Line 937: The discussion ignores the seasonal distribution of cloud effects and misses a literature connection to winter Arctic warmth and seasonal data-model mismatch
Tindall, J., Haywood, A., Salzmann, U., Dolan, A., Fletcher, T., 2022. The Warm Winter Paradox in the Pliocene Northern High Latitudes. Clim. Past 18, 1385–1405. https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-18-1385-2022
Line 947: Add more recent citation given you are saying still but referring to a 13 year old article?
Technical Corrections
The writing contains many sentences with multiple nested clauses. It would be easier for the reader if these were split into separate sentences. Examples include the sentences starting at Line 52; Line 68, and Line 78. This also obfuscates which citation supports which claim.

There are many other instances throughout that would also benefit from additional editing for English expression.
Line 122: Mixed use of COSMOS with and without the definite article. Remove “the” before COSMOS?
Line 207: Duplication. Csank et al 2011c cited here, is the same article as Csank et al 2011b.
Figure 2 caption, Lines 209-223 : The caption refers to ODP Site 911 IRD, ODP Site 910 IP25, and ODP Site 907 IP25. A reader would benefit from explicitly identifying which plotted symbol corresponds to each site in the figure itself or caption.
Line 242: Independent of?
Line 329: Otto-Bliesner et al., 2017 is not in the reference list.
See also:
Feng, R., Otto-Bliesner, B.L., Fletcher, T.L., Tabor, C.R., Ballantyne, A.P., Brady, E.C., 2017. Amplified Late Pliocene terrestrial warmth in northern high latitudes from greater radiative forcing and closed Arctic Ocean gateways. Earth Planet. Sci. Lett. 466, 129-138. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.epsl.2017.03.006
Line 331: This sentence reads as though Arctic feedbacks or polar amplification were explicitly suppressed in a dedicated model experiment. However, Salzmann et al. (2013) identified differences in the strength of Arctic feedbacks among PlioMIP models and found that models exhibiting weaker Arctic feedbacks generally failed to simulate ice-free Arctic summers. Consider rephrasing for clarity.
Line 334: Needs clarification,
Line 412: (CDO)? Misplaced?
Line 449: Define SIC (Sea Ice Concentration) in the text.
Line 466: Remove the duplicated full stop after "region of interest" ("interest. .").
Figure 4 caption, line 586: "2σ-treshold" → "2σ-threshold".

Sites could do with labels as the text refers to regions using the sites as landmarks.

Labels above each map in the figure (and 5 and 6) are confusing. Is it the COSMOS output shown on the blue scale? And the difference only the region of disagreement. It doesn’t seem to be a quantitative map of the difference in sea ice between COSMOS and CMIP6, for example.

What is CMIP3 CMIP5 PI ensemble mean. How is CMIP3 involved?

Stippling for disagreement and shading l for land sea-mask changes isn’t very clear. Lines for sea ice boarders were also difficult to see. More contrasting colour may help.
Line 505: "minorly impacted" is unusual scientific wording; consider "only weakly impacted" or "only weakly affected".
Line 533-536: Subject-verb agreement: "the COSMOS largely simulate" → "the COSMOS largely simulates" (or define COSMOS consistently as plural throughout).
Line 460: "The COSMOS have been extensively applied..." should be made consistent with usage elsewhere. The manuscript alternates between treating COSMOS as singular and plural.
Line 515: "the COSMOS simulate" should be checked for consistency with the chosen singular/plural treatment of COSMOS.
Line 533: "the COSMOS are a bit colder" should likewise be made consistent.
Figure 8 Caption: Line 710: Is MJJAS as per this label, this is the mollusc paper Csank et al 2011b, not the JJ reconstruction from tree ring isotopes in Csank et al 2011a.
Line: 722 “bar, proxy, or model.” typo
Line 730: "annual pre-industrial SIC (50-90 %)" is described as annual while the following discussion concerns the seasonal cycle. Clarification may be needed.
Figure 9 caption, line 762: "0°C iso-therm" → "0°C isotherm".
line 762: Grey line for 0 m iso-thickness not visible as it is the x-axis.
Line 766: fix brackets
Figure 10 caption,
Line 802: insert white. (white, brown, …) to align with text later in the figure caption.
line 810: Extra opening parenthesis in "(Climate Data Operators; (Schulzweida, 2023)."
Line 825: Spanning here could be misleading. Bracketing?
Line 844: Exceptions are
Line 902: Should Kneis et al 2014a also be cited here?
Line 904: Suggests rather than implies? I don’t think implies is what you mean, exactly.
Line 1004: "interal wave generation" → "internal wave generation".
Line 1030: "wave-braking" should likely be "wave breaking".
Line 1124: Author initials are inconsistent: "S.d.S" vs elsewhere "S.D.S."
Line 1110-1112: Formatting of author initials is inconsistent ("S.T.B.:", "S.D.S.:", "G.L.:"). Check punctuation placement.
Reference list: "Mcclymont" and "McClymont" both appear in the manuscript text; capitalisation should be checked for consistency throughout. Examples include lines 96, 185, and the reference section.
Reference list: "Nature communications", "Scientific reports", "Geophysical research letters", "Ocean modelling", etc. appear with inconsistent journal-title capitalisation.

Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-4723-RC1
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Jochen Knies, 13 Nov 2026
  
  We thank the reviewer for their very constructive comments that we are currently addressing towards revising our manuscript accordingly
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-4723-AC1
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'Comment on egusphere-2026-4723', Anonymous Referee #2, 11 Nov 2026
This paper has the potential to be an important addition to a growing literature in the dynamics of warm climates in the high latitudes and the important climate model parameters that may be different in previous warm climates. However, there are some major omissions in the experimental design and manuscript that make it hard to ascertain the extent of its advances and their applicability to the time periods being discussed.
There needs to be some estimation of the impact that the kind of changes applied to ocean mixing would have on the climate of the pre-industrial. I think the authors are claiming that this mixing parameter might change over time and the current value used in the pre-industrial simulation would remain the same even as it is changed for earlier parameters, but the reader needs to know how much this change would impact the present day climate. Line 1007 on page 50 seems to suggest that these results may be in Lohmann, 2020, but this reference isn’t in the bibliography, a search didn’t reveal any publication with these results. They aren’t in Lohmann et al., 2022, which would seem a logical place for it to be included. If this simulation hasn’t been done then it is a major oversight and needs to be clearly presented in the paper as a significant uncertainty within the results presented.

The implication of this paper that the ocean mixing parameters need to undergo a fivefold change between the Early and Late Pliocene seems to be a weak assertion with little consideration of the mechanisms that could cause this. There are some potential mechanisms very briefly mentioned in one sentence starting on line 947, but I fail to see how the relatively small differences in tidal dissipation, atmospheric circulation or storm activity could cause such huge changes in mixing. To cause such changes the relationships must be highly non-linear and would cause much more significant changes during the last deglaciation where the suggested mechanisms change much more substantially. The fact that you need such huge changes in the ocean parameters in the model to make changes that are much less than the data-model mismatch suggests to me this is unlikely to be the physical mechanism in the real world, but is more like an uncertainty in the modeling framework.

The Arctic data-model mismatches shown in Figure 8 seem to be revealing of the lack of efficacy of this mechanism to produce the climate of the Pliocene. Sure, changing the mixing seems to get us most of the way to an ice-free Arctic, but with temperatures that are much lower than the proxy records suggest. At each site the simulations with enhanced mixing move the temperatures in the right direction, but only a small fraction of the data-model mismatch. Therefore, this suggests to me, that enhanced mixing gives us the correct loss of sea ice, but at a much lower temperature than it should be happening at. Potentially, this then points to other mechanisms for warming the Arctic, which may give us sea ice loss alongside the correct temperature.

There is a growing body of literature suggesting that the Pliocene Arctic had major differences that act to warm the high latitude regions connecting the Atlantic and Arctic Some of these are incorporated in the Pliocene (and Miocene) simulations presented here, such as the reduced Greeenland Ice Sheet, a lower Greenland-Scotland ridge and a closed Bering Strait. However, there are others that have been suggested outside the PlioMIP and MioMIP protocol (Lunt et al,. 2008; Hill, 2017). The timescales of some of these potential changes seriously put into question the use of mid-Miocene and Late Pliocene simulations as climates that bracket the potential behaviour of the climate. For example, the height of the Greenland-Scotland ridge is controlled by the Icelandic mantle plume and major changes in this bathymetry can occur on sub-Million year timescales (Wright and Miller, 1996). This issue of timescales would seem to be much worse if you are invoke ocean mixing and circulation timescales, which are significantly shorter. All considered I find it hard to rule out the Early Pliocene being outside the Late Pliocene and Miocene climates. This requires much more justification, especially as there is so little specifically known about the climate forcings of the Early Pliocene and the paper needs to provide sufficient justification for this choice.

Some more minor corrections:
Line 40:              Please give examples of the possible “unresolved ocean processes”, as it is unclear what these could be.
Line 42:              Please quantify the improvements to the proxy data-model comparison, as these seem less than substantial in Figure 8. Something like a mean improvement percentage might work as a first order estimation.
Line 98:              400-500ppm seems like a very narrow window for the atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations for 20 million years of Earth history. The variation within the 300,000 years of the mid-Pliocene Warm Period is much higher than this, maybe as much 220-525ppm. These values definitely need amending reflecting the variety of publications you cite here.
Line 112-145: This text seems to be much more suitable for the methods section than the introduction.
Line 140-145: It is not clear to me that there would be a high dependency of ocean mixing to temperature or other Pliocene changes in the Earth system. Please could elaborate more on what strong dependencies you would expect to drive changes in ocean mixing during the Pliocene Epoch.
Line 146-162: This text seems to be discussing the results of this paper, which haven’t been presented yet. This section would be better suited to the results or discussion section.
Line 164-186: There ius some good descriptions of paleogeography in this section, but it is not clear which are explicitly tested included in these simulations. For example, you talk about the Barents Sea being subaerial until the middle Pleistocene, but then don’t include this in your mid-Pliocene paleogeography, which could make a significant difference in the region of interest (e.g. Hill, 2015). It would help the reader if you could somehow make clear what is general background to the Pliocene Arctic and what is actually incorporated into the models.
Line 207:           See Tindall et al., 2022 for a more thorough study of the Pliocene climate of Ellesmere Island and a quantitative data-model comparison.
Line 320:           The mid-Piacenzian Warm Period was the focus of PlioMIP1 and earlier paleoclimate modeling. Since Haywood et al., 2013 and PlioMIP2 (Haywood et al., 2016), the marine isotope stage KM5c (3.205Ma) has been the timeslice of the PlioMIP simulations.
Line 351:           You need to clearly state whether COSMOS “reproduces the key characteristics of pre-industrial Arctic sea ice” with the enhanced mixing or only when this isn’t included.
Figures 5,6,7: The captions need to include the full information about each figure. These will often be viewed individually and won’t appear on the same page of the manuscript. It is not a great experience to have to keep going back to reference a different figure caption to understand what you are seeing.
Line 638:           Dowsett et al., 2013 is an older version of PlioMIP, where timeslab data was used. The more recent papers show much less of a meridional temperature gradient problem and should be cited here instead.
Table 1:              It would be nice to have a summary of the Pliocene and Miocene paleogegraphy either in this table or in a separate one. Some of the most relevant details would be great, for example gateway changes, depth of Greenland-Scotland ridge and other paleogeographic changes.
Table 1:              What are the units for the numbers in brackets under the column “Arctic climate”?
Line 682:           What are the ages of the data from El’gygytgyn and Beaver Pond?
Figure 8:            Why are there no uncertainties on the model values in this plot? You may not be able to calculate a full, realistic uncertainty, but you can at least use the standard deviation of the value within the averaging period. This may well show that the improvements are marginal at best.
Line 744-746: My understanding of the IP25 proxy is that the presence of it shows seasonal sea ice coverage, as opposed to no or full year coverage. Please explain how these simulations are consistent with the proxy.
Line 750-753: It is unclear to me that a simulated 10°C is a better fit to a proxy reconstruction of 5-10°C than is 8°C, or maybe I missed something?
Line 985-994: It is worth reiterating all the possible paleogeographic changes that may have occurred again here.
Line 1007:        I can’t find Lohmann, 2020 in the reference list and am unclear what publication this is. Please include the full reference at the end of the paper.

Overall, this is a really interesting paper and these data and simulations should be published. However, there are some major weaknesses in the current manuscript that need addressing.

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Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-4723-RC2
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Jochen Knies, 13 Nov 2026
  
  We thank the reviewer for their very constructive comments that we are currently addressing towards revising our manuscript accordingly
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-4723-AC2

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The Arctic is rapidly approaching seasonally ice-free ("blue") conditions. Using proxy data to evaluate simulations of past warm climates, we show that enhanced ocean mixing substantially improves agreement with evidence for a blue Arctic and reveals multiple pathways for Arctic warming during the Early Pliocene. Our findings highlight the importance of accurately representing ocean processes in climate models to improve projections of future Arctic climate.


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