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Spatiotemporal Dual-Stream Transformers for Cloud Microphysical Parameterization
Abstract. Accurate precipitation forecasting is essential for mitigating weather-related disasters. Numerical Weather Prediction (NWP) precipitation forecasting accuracy is largely constrained by microphysical parameterization schemes, which rely on simplifying assumptions that introduce uncertainties. Deep learning provides a promising approach for data-driven modeling of complex microphysical relationships. We propose to model the cloud microphysical process via the Learned Microphysics Transformer (LMP-Tr). LMP-Tr employs a hybrid Convolutional Neural Network (CNN)–Transformer architecture that alternately integrates multi-scale convolutional modules and dual-pathway attention modules to capture both local cloud-scale features and long-range atmospheric dependencies. The key innovation lies in the systematic alternation of multi-scale convolutional modules for local feature extraction and dual-pathway attention modules for global dependency modeling. The proposed model enables progressive refinement of atmospheric representations through height-variable attention pathways and cross-module attention mechanisms. Extensive evaluation on a WRF simulation dataset demonstrates superior performance of the proposed method. LMP-Tr provides a practical and effective solution for enhancing cloud microphysics representation in operational NWP systems, offering improved accuracy and physical consistency compared to other Artificial Intelligence (AI)-based parameterization approaches.
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CEC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-3243 - No compliance with the policy of the journal', Juan Antonio Añel, 27 Jun 2026
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AC1: 'Reply on CEC1', Ting Shu, 28 Jun 2026
Dear Prof. Juan Antonio Añel,
Thank you for your professional comments. We are sorry that the last submitted manuscript did not include the right version of data and code. We have uploaded all data (https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20965731) and code (https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20481658) the paper utilized onto the Zenodo website, and also rewrote the "data and code availability" section in the new manuscript (please check the attachment):
The training and testing dataset used in this study was generated by post-processing output from Weather Research and Forecasting (WRF) model version 4.2.1 simulations. The archived dataset contains the machine-learning samples used for training, validation, and independent testing of the LMP-Tr model, including input features and target variables extracted and processed from the WRF simulation outputs. The dataset includes samples from 30 precipitation events over Southern China during 2018--2020 and is openly available at \url{https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20965731} (\cite{huang_2026_20965731}). The source code, experiment scripts, and post-processing scripts for LMP-Tr are openly available at \url{https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20481658} (\cite{huang_2026_20481658}). The initial and boundary conditions for the WRF simulations were derived from ECMWF analysis data; the original ECMWF data products are not redistributed in this dataset.
Best Regards,
Ting Shu (on behalf of all co-authors)
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CEC3: 'Reply on AC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 28 Jun 2026
Dear authors,
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, it does not address the issues noted in my previous comment, and we can not consider the situation solved. We must insist that you provide repositories for the WRF code and the ECMWF data used in your work. Also, as you provide part of the data in binary files that can only be accessed with the proprietary software Matlab, you must at least identify clearly the Matlab version necessary to open them. Matlab does not ensure compatibility between version to access old files. A better solution would be that you provide the data in a format that does not depend on proprietary software to be able to read the files.
Juan A. AñelGeosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC3 -
AC3: 'Reply on CEC3', Ting Shu, 30 Jun 2026
Dear Prof. Juan A. Añel,
Thank you for your professional comments. We have transformed the data format from .mat to .npz, and also provided all DOIs for the code and data we used in the manuscript. The latest version of the code and data availability section can be found in the updated manuscript:
The WRF source code is available on https://www2.mmm.ucar.edu/wrf/users/download/get_source.html (last access: 30 June 2026) and https://doi.org/10.5065/1dfh-6p97 (Skamarock et al. (2019)). ECMWF IFS global forecast data is publicly accessible from https://confluence.ecmwf.int/spaces/DAC/pages/272310539/ECMWF+open+data+real-time+forecasts+from+IFS+and+AIFS and https://doi.org/10.21957/b4d9609507 (for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (2026)). The WRF setting files utilized to generate the microphysical data can be found at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.19177453 (SHU (2026)). The generated microphysical dataset is openly available at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21018533 (HUANG (2026b)). The source code for LMP-Tr from this research can be downloaded from https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20481658 (HUANG (2026a)).
Best Regards,
Ting Shu (on behalf of all co-authors)
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CEC4: 'Reply on AC3', Juan Antonio Añel, 30 Jun 2026
Dear authors,
Unfortunately, your reply does not address the issues. We must insist that you provide the WRF code and the ECMWF data in a repository that complies with the requirements of the journal. The sites that you list are not acceptable. Namely:
 - They do not appear to have a published policy for data preservation over many years or decades (some flexibility exists over the precise length of preservation, but the policy must exist).
 - They do not appear to have a published mechanism for preventing authors from unilaterally removing material. Archives must have a policy which makes removal of materials only possible in exceptional circumstances and subject to an independent curatorial decision,If we have missed a published policy which does in fact address this matter satisfactorily, please post a response linking to it. If you have any questions about this issue, please post them in a reply.
Therefore, please, publish the required assets in a repository that we can accept.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC4 -
AC4: 'Reply on CEC4', Ting Shu, 01 Jul 2026
Dear Prof. Juan A. Añel,
Our paper focuses on developing a deep learning-based microphysical parameterization scheme, whose microphysical data and deep learning model code are uploaded into the zenodo website. Both the software and data used to generate the microphysical data can be accessed from the NCAR and ECMWF websites, which I have provided in the last reply. NCAR guarantees the permanent availability and archival of all historical releases. ECMWF currently provides certain open real-time data streams (as documented in their open data policy: https://confluence.ecmwf.int/spaces/DAC/pages/272310539/ECMWF+open+data+real-time+forecasts+from+IFS+and+AIFS), our study required historical global forecasting data for generating the microphysical data. This historical operational data was legally acquired under a commercial/institutional procurement agreement with ECMWF. Per the standard ECMWF licensing and distribution policies, we are strictly prohibited from publicly re-hosting or redistributing these raw proprietary datasets. In strict compliance with GMD’s policies for restricted third-party data, we have expanded the "Code and data availability" section in the manuscript to provide the exact metadata, specific dates, initialization times, and structural parameters used, allowing qualified researchers with appropriate ECMWF licensing to request the identical data directly from ECMWF.
We trust that these comprehensive updates and official clarifications fully align with GMD's commitment to reproducibility while adhering to international copyright and software distribution standards.
Best Regards,
Ting Shu
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-AC4 -
CEC5: 'Reply on AC4', Juan Antonio Añel, 01 Jul 2026
Dear authors,
Unfortunately your reply does not satisfy our requirements. I must insist that the NCAR links that you provide are not acceptable to access to the code, and that you must store the full WRF code used in a permanent repository acceptable according to the policy of the journal.
If you are not allowed to redistribute the ECMWF data due to licensing issues, please, share with us a copy of the terms of the license (this can be a link) and store the data in a private repository, as for example a Zenodo private repository, so that we can ensure that the data are properly curated and reachable through and DOI meanwhile you can comply with the terms of the ECMWF license that you mention and does not allow you free redistribution.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC5 -
AC5: 'Reply on CEC5', Ting Shu, 02 Jul 2026
Dear Prof. Juan A. Añel,
We withdraw this paper.
Best Regards,
Ting Shu
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-AC5
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AC5: 'Reply on CEC5', Ting Shu, 02 Jul 2026
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CEC5: 'Reply on AC4', Juan Antonio Añel, 01 Jul 2026
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AC4: 'Reply on CEC4', Ting Shu, 01 Jul 2026
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CEC4: 'Reply on AC3', Juan Antonio Añel, 30 Jun 2026
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AC3: 'Reply on CEC3', Ting Shu, 30 Jun 2026
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CEC3: 'Reply on AC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 28 Jun 2026
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AC1: 'Reply on CEC1', Ting Shu, 28 Jun 2026
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CEC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-3243 - No compliance with the policy of the journal', Juan Antonio Añel, 27 Jun 2026
Dear authors,
Unfortunately, after checking your manuscript, it has come to our attention that it does not comply with our "Code and Data Policy".
https://www.geoscientific-model-development.net/policies/code_and_data_policy.html
To access the WRF code you cite a GitHub site. However, GitHub is not a suitable repository for scientific publication. GitHub itself instructs authors to use other long-term archival and publishing alternatives, such as Zenodo. In addition, to access part of the data used you provide a generic link to the ECMWF data portal; however, the ECMWF data portal does not fulfil GMD’s requirements for a persistent data archive because:
 - It does not appear to have a published policy for data preservation over many years or decades (some flexibility exists over the precise length of preservation, but the policy must exist). Actually, their Terms of Use clearly state that data access can be terminated at any point and without notice.
 - It does not appear to issue a persistent identifier such as a DOI or Handle for each precise dataset.If we have missed a published policy which does in fact address this matter satisfactorily, please post a response linking to it. If you have any questions about this issue, please post them in a reply.
The GMD review and publication process depends on reviewers and community commentators being able to access, during the discussion phase, the code and data on which a manuscript depends, and on ensuring the provenance of replicability of the published papers for years after their publication. Please, therefore, publish your code and data in one of the appropriate repositories and reply to this comment with the relevant information (link and a permanent identifier for it (e.g. DOI)) as soon as possible. We cannot have manuscripts under discussion that do not comply with our policy. Â
Later, if the Topical Editor decides to continue with the review or publication process of your manuscript and you are requested to upload a new version of it, then The 'Code and Data Availability’ section of your manuscript must also be modified to cite the new repository locations, and corresponding references added to the bibliography.Â
I must note that if you do not fix this problem, we cannot continue with the peer-review process or accept your manuscript for publication in GMD.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive EditorCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on CEC2', Ting Shu, 28 Jun 2026
Please check the reply in "Reply on CEC1". Thx!
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on CEC2', Ting Shu, 28 Jun 2026
Interactive discussion
Status: closed
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CEC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-3243 - No compliance with the policy of the journal', Juan Antonio Añel, 27 Jun 2026
Dear authors,
Unfortunately, after checking your manuscript, it has come to our attention that it does not comply with our "Code and Data Policy".
https://www.geoscientific-model-development.net/policies/code_and_data_policy.html
To access the WRF code you cite a GitHub site. However, GitHub is not a suitable repository for scientific publication. GitHub itself instructs authors to use other long-term archival and publishing alternatives, such as Zenodo. In addition, to access part of the data used you provide a generic link to the ECMWF data portal; however, the ECMWF data portal does not fulfil GMD’s requirements for a persistent data archive because:
 - It does not appear to have a published policy for data preservation over many years or decades (some flexibility exists over the precise length of preservation, but the policy must exist). Actually, their Terms of Use clearly state that data access can be terminated at any point and without notice.
 - It does not appear to issue a persistent identifier such as a DOI or Handle for each precise dataset.If we have missed a published policy which does in fact address this matter satisfactorily, please post a response linking to it. If you have any questions about this issue, please post them in a reply.
The GMD review and publication process depends on reviewers and community commentators being able to access, during the discussion phase, the code and data on which a manuscript depends, and on ensuring the provenance of replicability of the published papers for years after their publication. Please, therefore, publish your code and data in one of the appropriate repositories and reply to this comment with the relevant information (link and a permanent identifier for it (e.g. DOI)) as soon as possible. We cannot have manuscripts under discussion that do not comply with our policy. Â
Later, if the Topical Editor decides to continue with the review or publication process of your manuscript and you are requested to upload a new version of it, then The 'Code and Data Availability’ section of your manuscript must also be modified to cite the new repository locations, and corresponding references added to the bibliography.Â
I must note that if you do not fix this problem, we cannot continue with the peer-review process or accept your manuscript for publication in GMD.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive EditorCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on CEC1', Ting Shu, 28 Jun 2026
Dear Prof. Juan Antonio Añel,
Thank you for your professional comments. We are sorry that the last submitted manuscript did not include the right version of data and code. We have uploaded all data (https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20965731) and code (https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20481658) the paper utilized onto the Zenodo website, and also rewrote the "data and code availability" section in the new manuscript (please check the attachment):
The training and testing dataset used in this study was generated by post-processing output from Weather Research and Forecasting (WRF) model version 4.2.1 simulations. The archived dataset contains the machine-learning samples used for training, validation, and independent testing of the LMP-Tr model, including input features and target variables extracted and processed from the WRF simulation outputs. The dataset includes samples from 30 precipitation events over Southern China during 2018--2020 and is openly available at \url{https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20965731} (\cite{huang_2026_20965731}). The source code, experiment scripts, and post-processing scripts for LMP-Tr are openly available at \url{https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20481658} (\cite{huang_2026_20481658}). The initial and boundary conditions for the WRF simulations were derived from ECMWF analysis data; the original ECMWF data products are not redistributed in this dataset.
Best Regards,
Ting Shu (on behalf of all co-authors)
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CEC3: 'Reply on AC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 28 Jun 2026
Dear authors,
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, it does not address the issues noted in my previous comment, and we can not consider the situation solved. We must insist that you provide repositories for the WRF code and the ECMWF data used in your work. Also, as you provide part of the data in binary files that can only be accessed with the proprietary software Matlab, you must at least identify clearly the Matlab version necessary to open them. Matlab does not ensure compatibility between version to access old files. A better solution would be that you provide the data in a format that does not depend on proprietary software to be able to read the files.
Juan A. AñelGeosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC3 -
AC3: 'Reply on CEC3', Ting Shu, 30 Jun 2026
Dear Prof. Juan A. Añel,
Thank you for your professional comments. We have transformed the data format from .mat to .npz, and also provided all DOIs for the code and data we used in the manuscript. The latest version of the code and data availability section can be found in the updated manuscript:
The WRF source code is available on https://www2.mmm.ucar.edu/wrf/users/download/get_source.html (last access: 30 June 2026) and https://doi.org/10.5065/1dfh-6p97 (Skamarock et al. (2019)). ECMWF IFS global forecast data is publicly accessible from https://confluence.ecmwf.int/spaces/DAC/pages/272310539/ECMWF+open+data+real-time+forecasts+from+IFS+and+AIFS and https://doi.org/10.21957/b4d9609507 (for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (2026)). The WRF setting files utilized to generate the microphysical data can be found at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.19177453 (SHU (2026)). The generated microphysical dataset is openly available at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21018533 (HUANG (2026b)). The source code for LMP-Tr from this research can be downloaded from https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20481658 (HUANG (2026a)).
Best Regards,
Ting Shu (on behalf of all co-authors)
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CEC4: 'Reply on AC3', Juan Antonio Añel, 30 Jun 2026
Dear authors,
Unfortunately, your reply does not address the issues. We must insist that you provide the WRF code and the ECMWF data in a repository that complies with the requirements of the journal. The sites that you list are not acceptable. Namely:
 - They do not appear to have a published policy for data preservation over many years or decades (some flexibility exists over the precise length of preservation, but the policy must exist).
 - They do not appear to have a published mechanism for preventing authors from unilaterally removing material. Archives must have a policy which makes removal of materials only possible in exceptional circumstances and subject to an independent curatorial decision,If we have missed a published policy which does in fact address this matter satisfactorily, please post a response linking to it. If you have any questions about this issue, please post them in a reply.
Therefore, please, publish the required assets in a repository that we can accept.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC4 -
AC4: 'Reply on CEC4', Ting Shu, 01 Jul 2026
Dear Prof. Juan A. Añel,
Our paper focuses on developing a deep learning-based microphysical parameterization scheme, whose microphysical data and deep learning model code are uploaded into the zenodo website. Both the software and data used to generate the microphysical data can be accessed from the NCAR and ECMWF websites, which I have provided in the last reply. NCAR guarantees the permanent availability and archival of all historical releases. ECMWF currently provides certain open real-time data streams (as documented in their open data policy: https://confluence.ecmwf.int/spaces/DAC/pages/272310539/ECMWF+open+data+real-time+forecasts+from+IFS+and+AIFS), our study required historical global forecasting data for generating the microphysical data. This historical operational data was legally acquired under a commercial/institutional procurement agreement with ECMWF. Per the standard ECMWF licensing and distribution policies, we are strictly prohibited from publicly re-hosting or redistributing these raw proprietary datasets. In strict compliance with GMD’s policies for restricted third-party data, we have expanded the "Code and data availability" section in the manuscript to provide the exact metadata, specific dates, initialization times, and structural parameters used, allowing qualified researchers with appropriate ECMWF licensing to request the identical data directly from ECMWF.
We trust that these comprehensive updates and official clarifications fully align with GMD's commitment to reproducibility while adhering to international copyright and software distribution standards.
Best Regards,
Ting Shu
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-AC4 -
CEC5: 'Reply on AC4', Juan Antonio Añel, 01 Jul 2026
Dear authors,
Unfortunately your reply does not satisfy our requirements. I must insist that the NCAR links that you provide are not acceptable to access to the code, and that you must store the full WRF code used in a permanent repository acceptable according to the policy of the journal.
If you are not allowed to redistribute the ECMWF data due to licensing issues, please, share with us a copy of the terms of the license (this can be a link) and store the data in a private repository, as for example a Zenodo private repository, so that we can ensure that the data are properly curated and reachable through and DOI meanwhile you can comply with the terms of the ECMWF license that you mention and does not allow you free redistribution.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC5 -
AC5: 'Reply on CEC5', Ting Shu, 02 Jul 2026
Dear Prof. Juan A. Añel,
We withdraw this paper.
Best Regards,
Ting Shu
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-AC5
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AC5: 'Reply on CEC5', Ting Shu, 02 Jul 2026
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CEC5: 'Reply on AC4', Juan Antonio Añel, 01 Jul 2026
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AC4: 'Reply on CEC4', Ting Shu, 01 Jul 2026
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CEC4: 'Reply on AC3', Juan Antonio Añel, 30 Jun 2026
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AC3: 'Reply on CEC3', Ting Shu, 30 Jun 2026
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CEC3: 'Reply on AC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 28 Jun 2026
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AC1: 'Reply on CEC1', Ting Shu, 28 Jun 2026
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CEC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-3243 - No compliance with the policy of the journal', Juan Antonio Añel, 27 Jun 2026
Dear authors,
Unfortunately, after checking your manuscript, it has come to our attention that it does not comply with our "Code and Data Policy".
https://www.geoscientific-model-development.net/policies/code_and_data_policy.html
To access the WRF code you cite a GitHub site. However, GitHub is not a suitable repository for scientific publication. GitHub itself instructs authors to use other long-term archival and publishing alternatives, such as Zenodo. In addition, to access part of the data used you provide a generic link to the ECMWF data portal; however, the ECMWF data portal does not fulfil GMD’s requirements for a persistent data archive because:
 - It does not appear to have a published policy for data preservation over many years or decades (some flexibility exists over the precise length of preservation, but the policy must exist). Actually, their Terms of Use clearly state that data access can be terminated at any point and without notice.
 - It does not appear to issue a persistent identifier such as a DOI or Handle for each precise dataset.If we have missed a published policy which does in fact address this matter satisfactorily, please post a response linking to it. If you have any questions about this issue, please post them in a reply.
The GMD review and publication process depends on reviewers and community commentators being able to access, during the discussion phase, the code and data on which a manuscript depends, and on ensuring the provenance of replicability of the published papers for years after their publication. Please, therefore, publish your code and data in one of the appropriate repositories and reply to this comment with the relevant information (link and a permanent identifier for it (e.g. DOI)) as soon as possible. We cannot have manuscripts under discussion that do not comply with our policy. Â
Later, if the Topical Editor decides to continue with the review or publication process of your manuscript and you are requested to upload a new version of it, then The 'Code and Data Availability’ section of your manuscript must also be modified to cite the new repository locations, and corresponding references added to the bibliography.Â
I must note that if you do not fix this problem, we cannot continue with the peer-review process or accept your manuscript for publication in GMD.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive EditorCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-CEC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on CEC2', Ting Shu, 28 Jun 2026
Please check the reply in "Reply on CEC1". Thx!
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-3243-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on CEC2', Ting Shu, 28 Jun 2026
Data sets
Generating-MPS-Dataset-via-WRF-4.2.1 Ting Shu https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.19177453
Model code and software
LMP-Tr v1.0: Source code and experiment scripts for cloud microphysical parameterization Yijun Huang and Ting Shu https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20481658
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Dear authors,
Unfortunately, after checking your manuscript, it has come to our attention that it does not comply with our "Code and Data Policy".
https://www.geoscientific-model-development.net/policies/code_and_data_policy.html
To access the WRF code you cite a GitHub site. However, GitHub is not a suitable repository for scientific publication. GitHub itself instructs authors to use other long-term archival and publishing alternatives, such as Zenodo. In addition, to access part of the data used you provide a generic link to the ECMWF data portal; however, the ECMWF data portal does not fulfil GMD’s requirements for a persistent data archive because:
 - It does not appear to have a published policy for data preservation over many years or decades (some flexibility exists over the precise length of preservation, but the policy must exist). Actually, their Terms of Use clearly state that data access can be terminated at any point and without notice.
 - It does not appear to issue a persistent identifier such as a DOI or Handle for each precise dataset.
If we have missed a published policy which does in fact address this matter satisfactorily, please post a response linking to it. If you have any questions about this issue, please post them in a reply.
The GMD review and publication process depends on reviewers and community commentators being able to access, during the discussion phase, the code and data on which a manuscript depends, and on ensuring the provenance of replicability of the published papers for years after their publication. Please, therefore, publish your code and data in one of the appropriate repositories and reply to this comment with the relevant information (link and a permanent identifier for it (e.g. DOI)) as soon as possible. We cannot have manuscripts under discussion that do not comply with our policy. Â
Later, if the Topical Editor decides to continue with the review or publication process of your manuscript and you are requested to upload a new version of it, then The 'Code and Data Availability’ section of your manuscript must also be modified to cite the new repository locations, and corresponding references added to the bibliography.Â
I must note that if you do not fix this problem, we cannot continue with the peer-review process or accept your manuscript for publication in GMD.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor