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The importance of alpine blowing snow for cloud processes
Abstract. Numerical models are known to fail in reproducing the large gap that exists between measured ice nucleating particle and ice crystal number concentrations in alpine regions. Improvements have been made by adding different sources of secondary ice production mechanisms into the models. Blowing snow has been identified as an additional possible source of ice particles. Driven by this assumption, we investigate the effect of blowing snow particles using the numerical model CRYOWRF, in which a new saltation scheme has been implemented to better represent the boundary conditions necessary for the blowing snow equations. First, ice crystal number concentrations are compared with measured data from Jungfraujoch, in the Swiss Alps, showing the importance of secondary ice production, blowing snow and microphysics scheme. Then, erosion and deposition patterns are also analyzed, as well as the influence of blowing snow on precipitation. It is shown that our implementation of blowing snow dynamics improves significantly the match between observed and simulated cloud particles.
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CRYOWRF-WRF WSL-CRYOS https://gitlabext.wsl.ch/atmospheric-models/CRYOWRF
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Review of “The importance of alpine blowing snow for cloud processes” by S. Viaro, A. Sigmund, E. Thomas, and M. Lehning submitted to ACP for publication
Many studies have shown that the number of ice crystals observed in boundary layer clouds is much larger (by orders of magnitude) than the available ice nucleating particles. This paper investigates whether blowing snow can be an effective secondary ice production mechanism that increases the number of ice crystals in cloud systems in alpine regions. Nested WRF simulations with an innermost 1km nest are run using 2 different land surface models, 2 different microphysics schemes, and with and without blowing snow. The ISHMAEL microphysical scheme predicts the evolution of ice habits and density while the Morrison scheme uses 3 categories of ice with fixed habits and densities. There are many other differences between the two schemes as well, specific to this study, the secondary ice production mechanism by rime splintering following the parameterization of Hallett and Mossop (1974) is included in both schemes but implemented differently. An additional secondary ice production mechanism of ice-ice collisions is included in a sensitivity study with the Morrison microphysics. Blowing snow is modeled with a two-moment scheme but importantly, only interacts with the microphysics through the water vapor source-sink term.
Summary: This study shows that blowing snow can reach heights that impact cloud processes, but the studies of the different microphysics and SIP mechanisms are very limited, and I think additional studies need to be done to identify what processes cause the different results. Also, to understand how blowing snow impacts cloud processes the blowing snow ice crystals need to be included in the microphysics. The conclusions are overstated or not supported by the model studies. For example, in the conclusions it says, “When blowing snow particles are included in these schemes, the overall effect on the results is comparable to a simulation with a standard microphysics scheme that includes secondary ice production.” Is this meant to describe the MOR_noBS and MOR_BSorig runs? I don’t see this result in the model studies presented and discussed. It also says in the conclusions, “We also confirm the importance of adding secondary ice production mechanisms to improve the estimation of ice particles”, which is not supported by the model studies.
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