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Antagonism or synergy: Divergent surface water dynamics at the southern margin of the Eurasian permafrost
Abstract. Intensifying climate change and human activities are substantially altering frozen ground conditions, disrupting both surface water regimes and groundwater connectivity. The specific driving mechanisms behind these surface water shifts at the southern margin of the Eurasian permafrost, however, remain poorly quantified due to overlooked spatial heterogeneity. This study analyzed surface water dynamics in the Songhua River Zone (SHRZ) from 1988 to 2024 by integrating an improved water detection method with an interpretable geographical extreme gradient boosting framework coupled with shapley additive explanations. The results show a marked hydrological reversal from shrinkage to expansion around 2012. Expansion in the seasonal frozen ground region (24.77 %) significantly outpaced that in the permafrost region (9.38 %). Spatially explicit attribution identified a structural divergence in regulation mechanisms: the permafrost region is dominated by human activities (76.4 %), forming an "antagonistic" pattern where reservoir-driven expansion is constrained by environmental barriers. In contrast, the seasonal frozen ground region is governed by natural factors (72.4 %), exhibiting a "synergistic" pattern where climate and terrain jointly promote water expansion. Across distinct water types, natural factors control 93.6 % of lake dynamics, whereas human activities dominate river systems (71.0 %) and reservoirs (56.0 %). Furthermore, this surface water expansion occurred alongside accelerated groundwater depletion, suggesting that the surface recovery was achieved at the expense of subsurface storage. These findings demonstrate that surface water expansion does not equate to water security, highlighting the need for targeted surface-groundwater management strategies and prospective research integrating dynamic permafrost degradation processes to further elucidate these ecohydrological trade-offs.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-1772', Anonymous Referee #1, 18 May 2026
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Bo Zhang, 27 May 2026
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We sincerely thank the referee for the time and effort dedicated to reviewing our manuscript. We are encouraged by the referee’s positive remarks regarding the timeliness of our study and the value of our compiled dataset.
The referee rightly points out that our manuscript faced key challenges regarding data preprocessing clarity, the justification of analytical choices, the robustness of interpretations, and the alignment between methods and conclusions. We agree with this diagnosis and will systematically address these issues. In the revised manuscript, we will implement comprehensive improvements structured directly around the four core dimensions highlighted by the referee:
1. Enhancing Methodology Reproducibility and Clarity of Data Preprocessing
(1) Detailed Image Selection: We will expand Section 2.2.1 to clarify the exact spatial (30 m) and temporal (16-day) resolutions of the Landsat imagery, specifying our quality filtering criteria (e.g., <10% cloud cover limit).
(2) Data Harmonization: We will explicitly detail the preprocessing steps (Section 2.3), including the bilinear and nearest-neighbor resampling methods used to unify heterogeneous resolutions to a 1 km grid.
(3) Algorithmic Disclosure: We will disclose the G-XGBoost algorithmic structure in Section 2.3.5, reporting the exact, independently-calibrated optimal hyperparameters (including bandwidth, learning rate, tree depth, and estimators) for both sub-regions in a clear comparative table.
2. Justifying Analytical Choices
(1) Temporal Scaling Rationale: We will explain the rationale behind our dual-timeframe strategy. Reconstructing the long-term historical trajectory (1988–2024) using the continuous Landsat archive is necessary to ensure the robustness and reliability of our surface water area trend and breakpoint analysis. This extended timeframe is required to capture the full trajectory of the hydrological reversal from shrinkage to expansion around 2012. Conversely, our quantitative attribution modeling (G-XGBoost) must be restricted to 2000-2020, as the key spatial drivers are restricted to the post-2000 era. This dual-timeframe approach follows previous remote sensing hydrological studies (Wang et al., 2020; Liang et al., 2024)
(2) Threshold Justification: We will provide robust physical and literature-based justifications for our threshold choices, explaining why the 10% cloud cover limit and the 75% water-frequency threshold represent widely adopted standards in the remote sensing community (Sections 2.2.1 and 2.3.3).
3. Strengthening Robustness of Interpretations and Differentiating Non-Significant Results
(1) Addressing Overinterpretation of Non-Significant Trends: We completely agree with the referee's critique. To ensure strict statistical rigor, we will conduct a text-wide review to remove directional terms (such as "decline", "increase", or "trend") for any fitted slopes where p≥0.05. These will be strictly described as stable fluctuations (e.g., "fluctuated without a statistically significant trend"), and no interpretive or mechanistic conclusions will be drawn from them.
(2) Statistical Breakpoint Verification: We will address the lack of significance testing in our original algorithm-driven CUSUM approach. While the binary segmentation algorithm mathematically located the point of maximum cumulative deviation, we will now implement a rigorous Statistical CUSUM Test evaluated by 1,000 bootstrap permutations (p<0.05) and cross-verified by Pettitt’s test (Section 2.3.4), providing robust statistical evidence for the 2012 regime shift.
(3) Addressing Overclaiming of Groundwater Status: To ensure scientific precision and prevent overstating the regional condition, we will replace the term "groundwater depletion" with "groundwater storage decline" (or "groundwater storage loss") throughout the text, as the regional aquifers are experiencing a steady decline rather than absolute exhaustion. We will also clarify in Section 3.3 that this decline is a direct observation from the GRACE-derived GWSA dataset, rather than a modeled inference.
4. Improving Alignment between Methods and Conclusions and Enhancing Figure Clarity
(1) Type-Specific Accuracy Evaluation: To align our surface water classification with our validation, we will perform a stratified accuracy assessment (User's and Producer's accuracies) specifically for rivers, lakes, and reservoirs against the JRC product, to be included in the Supplementary Information.
(2) Figure and Caption Upgrades: We will clarify the visual information by defining the Coefficient of Variation (CV) in Figure 4 and explaining the significance stars (* p < 0.05, ** p < 0.01) in Figures 5 and 8. All figure captions will be expanded to be fully self-explanatory.
We believe these planned systematic revisions directly resolve the issues raised and will significantly enhance the scientific rigor and transparency of our study. Please find the more detailed point-by-point responses in the attached Supplementary document.
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Liang, H., Zhou, Y., Cui, Y., Dong, J., Gao, Z., Liu, B., and Xiao, X.: Is satellite-observed surface water expansion a good signal to China’s largest granary?, Agric. Water Manage., 303, 109039, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.agwat.2024.109039, 2024.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Bo Zhang, 27 May 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-1772', Anonymous Referee #2, 04 Aug 2026
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1) Regarding the intensification of climate and its link to surface and groundwater resources that the Authors mention (e.g., "Intensifying climate change and human activities are substantially altering frozen ground conditions, disrupting both surface water regimes and groundwater connectivity."), please discuss how strong is the intensification and which water source is the strongest; for example, based on the study by Koutosyiannis (2020; doi:10.5194/hess-24-3899-2020), the impact of the over-exploitation of groundwater resources is identified as one of the most severe anthropogenic actions with direct effect in the sea-level rise.
2) The Authors mention that "Across distinct water types, natural factors control 93.6% of lake dynamics, whereas human activities dominate river systems (71.0%) and reservoirs (56.0%)."; please further explain how did the Authors estimate the 93.6% of natural factors impact and the 6.6% for the human activities by also considering the uncertainty error in the maps themselves (please calculate this error and include it in the estimations with surplus values).
3) Please show Figures 4 and 5 along with rainfall and runoff satellite maps, taken for example from products such as IMERG (NASA, 2020; https://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/uuid/47c32530265d4d6e8fdb6c08b2330371) and ERA5 (Hersbach et al., 2020; doi.org/10.1002/qj.3803), to justify the changes in surface water area and availability. Also, additional data analysis may be required to justify the very large peaks in these Figures, what is this sudden break in Figures 4's timseries, please further explain what are the shaded areas in their curves and how are they calculated.
4) A length of at least 30 years is required to capture the long-term climatic variability of the key hydrological-cycle dynamics (Dimitriadis et al., 2021; doi:10.3390/hydrology8020059); the Authors may use this info to justify the adequate length of the 37 years of data-maps they apply (i.e., 1988 to 2024) at the SHRZ. Additionally, please enhance the information on the data analysis by including Tables regarding the spatiotemporal timeseries used in the analysis with primary information (e.g., resolution, exact time-range, missing maps, etc.), spatiotemporal primary statistics (e.g., total mean, standard-deviation, skewness, kurtosis, etc.), seasonal statistics (e.g., primary statistics for each season), autocorrelation structures, etc; this could help the Authors identify several similarities among the data statistics and perform a pooled-analysis that can reveal additional interesting conclusions.
5) Please consider simplifying each conclusion since they seem very difficult to understand, and specify what is their practical meaning, where they can be used and under what conditions, etc.:
a) "The IOWDM-ENC demonstrated more superior applicability than existing methods in the SHRZ, achieving an overall accuracy of 99.03%."; what is a practical application for this.
b) "The Geographical-XGBoost-SHAP framework effectively resolved the stationarity limitations of global-scale models. Rather than assuming a uniform influence, this spatially explicit GeoAI framework quantitatively identifying specific locations where factors function as promoters or inhibitors. This capability provides a reliable technical basis for revealing localized hydrological controls that vary significantly across this complex permafrost margin."; please note that data cannot be stationary or non-stationary but rather a model can be either stationary or non-stationary, and one can select both models and then decide which one best describes the observed series (see for example, discussion in Serinaldi and Kilsby, 2015; doi:10.1016/j.advwatres.2014.12.013).
c) "Surface water dynamics are governed by distinct regulation mechanisms. At the regional scale, a divergence exists between the antagonistic pattern in the permafrost region (where permanent water expansion is constrained by environmental barriers) and the synergistic pattern in the seasonal frozen ground region (where climate, terrain, and human factors amplify expansion). At the typological scale, permanent lake dynamics are primarily controlled by natural factors (55.7% CEF and 37.9% TSF). In contrast, anthropogenic factors dominate both RCF (71.0%) and RP (56.0%), while exerting opposing influences by constraining RCF expansion but promoting RP expansion."; this is quite confusing (please simplify), what do the Authors mean by "distinct regulation mechanisms (are they not natural ones, and why they are distinct).
d) "The hydrological trade-off emerged between surface water expansion and groundwater storage depletion. The observed increase in surface water area coincides with a decline in GWSA, suggesting that surface water expansion has occurred at the potential expense of subsurface storage. This trade-off is particularly significant in the seasonal frozen ground region, highlighting the urgent need for surface-groundwater management strategies tailored to the distinct regulation mechanisms identified in this study."; this can be quite confusing since I would expect when the groundwater resources increase, and after a threshold point, the surface ones would also start to increase (please further explain the practical meaning of this).
6) Please further explain how Equations 1-4 are related to the water surface area and availability estimations extracted from the maps; please show the equations for the whole methodology followed in this study so the Readers can better comprehend it.
7) Please perform a strong polishing of the text by following the SI standards units and regulations (for example, please do not use italics in the Equations 1-4 when more that 1 letter is used for a symbol).
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-1772-RC2
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Review of “Antagonism or synergy: Divergent surface water dynamics at the southern margin of the Eurasian permafrost” submitted to Hydrology and Earth System Sciences (HESS)
This manuscript investigates long-term dynamics of permanent and seasonal surface water across the Songhua River Zone (SHRZ) and evaluates how climatic and anthropogenic drivers shape these patterns. The study assembles multiple remote sensing and meteorological datasets, develops a water-body classification product (IOWDM-ENC), and applies trend analysis, Geographical-XGBoost (G-XGBoost), and SHAP interpretability to assess spatiotemporal changes and their underlying mechanisms.
The topic is timely and relevant for understanding hydrological responses to climate change and human pressures in cold-region environments. The dataset compilation is a valuable contribution. However, the manuscript currently faces major challenges in methodology reproducibility, clarity of data preprocessing, justification of analytical choices, robustness of interpretations, and alignment between methods and conclusions. Several figures require clearer explanation, and some statements overinterpret non-significant or insufficiently supported results. The paper would benefit from substantial revision to strengthen methodological transparency, contextualization in existing literature, and consistency in narrative.
For these reasons, I recommend extensive major revisions, with particular attention to the following points:
Major comments:
Minor comments: