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Factors Causing Stratocumulus to Deviate from Subtropical High Variability on Seasonal to Interannual Timescales
Abstract. Stratocumulus (Sc) covers the eastern flanks of maritime subtropical high pressure systems and exerts an influence on the global energy budget comparable to CO2. Previous studies have identified the temperature difference between 700 hPa and the surface as the primary driver of Sc variability. However, the mechanistic linkages between subtropical highs and this critical temperature gradient, which defines lower tropospheric stability, remain unresolved. While subsidence modulates temperatures at 700 hPa and wind-driven cooling affects surface temperatures, the observed decoupling between subtropical high intensity and Sc fraction on seasonal to interannual timescales lacks a mechanical explanation. This study uses reanalysis data to test two hypothesized pathways linking the strength of the subtropical highs to the lower tropospheric stability. Results demonstrate that neither pathway dominates, as correlations between Sc-regime temperatures and subtropical high dynamics exhibit strong regional and temporal dependencies, indicating that correlation does not apply causation. Additionally, Sc-regime conditions do not systematically align with subtropical high variability, highlighting the need for further investigation into the dynamical processes governing temperatures in the lower troposphere.
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-876', Anonymous Referee #2, 31 Mar 2025
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Review of "Factors causing stratocumulus to deviate
from subtropical high variability on seasonal to
interannual timescales"
by H. Ding, B. Stevens, and H. Schmidt[A] Overall recommendation
This study presents statistical analyses of observational
data for maritime stratocumulus cloud fraction and
atmospheric conditions. The study discusses whether the
cloud fraction is controlled by the atmospheric
conditions, focusing on the strength of the subtropical
high pressure system.The issue addressed in the paper is important.
Stratocumulus cloud plays a major role in the global
energy budget, and therefore, its changes can lead to
sizable impact on the global climate. This motivates
research on the factors controlling the stratocumulus
cloud.This study forwards understanding of the issue by
rejecting two hypothesized processes by which the
subtropical highs may affect the stratocumulus cloud.
The authors also illustrate that correlation between
the stratocumulus regime temperatures and the
subtropical high dynamics exhibit strong regional and
temporal dependencies, which is a valuable piece of
information for those interested in the stratocumulus
cloud variation.There are, however, some minor points to mention
regarding the presentation or interpretation of the
results as listed below. I would therefore recommend
accepting the manuscript for publication after minor
revision.
[B] Minor Comments(1) P.3 L.65 "This paper uses the second version of
the ATSR-AATSR"Readers may be interested in the characteristics of
this data set when compared with other observations
such as ISCCP or MODIS. If the authors could comment
on this, that will be helpful.(2) P.5 L.109 "... it is fixed to be 500m"
It would be helpful to readers if the authors
explain why the LCL is fixed to be 500m, rather
than being estimated.(3) P.5 Figure 2 caption "low cloud fraction (kappa)
from 2003 to 2014"This appears inconsistent with the statement in
L.70, that low cloud fraction data for the period
from Jan 2003 to Dec 2011 is analyzed.(4) P.6 L.143 "C_D=0.0015 the drag coefficient"
Readers might wonder why the drag coefficient is
assumed to be a constant value of 0.0015.
Additional clarification would be helpful.(5) P.7 Table 1 caption "The dominant contribution
to EIS is denoted by a bold font"It would be helpful to readers if the authors explain
in more detail what the dominant contribution means.
Does it mean that magnitude of the correlation or the
standard deviation at one pressure level is larger
than the magnitude at the other level?(6) P.7 L.158 "explain most of the variability in EIS"
Readers might wonder if this statement is supported by
Table 1, because magnitude of the correlation is
smaller at 700hPa than at 1000hPa at NP and SI on
interannual timescale.
Additional clarification would be helpful.(7) P.7 L.171 "this correlation does not imply causation"
Here the authors argue that the correlation does not
imply causation. Does this argument apply to both
seasonal cycle and interannual variability, or does it
apply to interannual variability only?
Additional clarification would be helpful.(8) P.8 Figure 3
I suggest that the authors give definition of the primes
for EIS, Q_c, LHF_c, and W_E.(9) P.8 L.187 "a clear relationship between Q_c and
omega_700,c"It would be helpful if the authors write the pressure
level at which the Q_c is evaluated. Is it 700hPa?(10) P.10 L.204 "Upwelling areas are restricted to the
coastal regions where the wind-stress curl is large"In Figure 7(b), there appears to be no upwelling along
the equator in the Pacific and the Atlantic. Readers
might wonder how the SST cold tongue is maintained.
Additional clarification would be helpful.(11) P.10 L.207 "variations in near-surface geopotential
gradients are not the primary driver of changes in
theta_1000"It may be a good idea to show scatter plots for
variations in geopotential gradients and variations
in theta_1000, for both seasonal and interannual
timescales, so that readers can better follow the
argument.
[C] Typos(1) P.6 L.133 "geopolitical"
geopotential?
(2) P.7 L.164 "SP"
SI?
(3) P.8 L.187 "theta_700"
omega_700?
(4) P.9 Figure 4 caption "omega_700(left)"
omega_700(top)?
(5) P.9 Figure 4 caption "Q(right)"
Q(bottom)?
(6) P.9 Figure 4 caption "Stratocumulus regions"
Subtropical high areas?
(7) P.12 Figure 8 caption "omega_700(top)"
omega_700(left)?
(8) P.12 Figure 8 caption "d(phi)/dx(bottom)"
d(phi)/dx(right)?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-876-RC2
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