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Sensitivity of ski resorts in the western US to climate change
Abstract. Winter recreation’s vulnerability to climate change, especially to warming, is widely recognized but few studies report quantitatively on the observed effects of climate change on ski resorts, in part because consistent and available data directly from ski resorts is scarce. Instead, we use proxy data from nearby SNOTEL (snow telemetry) and snow course sites to examine sensitivity of snow depth (HS) and snow water equivalent (SWE) to temperature and precipitation at 41 select ski resorts in Washington, Idaho, Oregon, and California, during the ski season. Multiple regression on climate variables then permits statistical projections of future snow depth from projected changes in temperature and precipitation. We also use projected future SWE from a hydrology model with climate input from CMIP5 models with the RCP4.5 and RCP8.5 scenarios to evaluate future changes in snow depth at the selected ski resorts. While many resorts indeed face substantial declines in ski-season snow depth, many of those in Idaho and a few at high elevation are likely to be minimally affected. Mitigating factors include (a) projected increases in winter precipitation over the Rockies that partly offset the effects of warming; (b) low temperature sensitivity there and over high altitudes; (c) lower observed declines and temperature sensitivity for snow in winter compared with spring; and (d) many ski resorts are located in areas of high snowfall and/or span a considerable range of altitudes.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-5113', Anonymous Referee #1, 19 Dec 2025 reply
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-5113', Bettina Richter, 29 Dec 2025
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General comments:
This manuscript addresses how climate change affects snow depths at 41 ski resorts across the western United States. Two approaches were used to estimate the sensitivity of snow depths to changing temperature and precipitation: First, A combination of observational data (SNOTEL and snow courses) with statistical regression method and second, future SWE output from hydrologic modeling (VIC). Despite this timely and relevant topic, the manuscript has drawbacks, which must be addressed before further revision.
Major:
1. Unclear scientific objective: The manuscript does not clearly state its primary research question and objective. It remains ambiguous whether the study aims to:
- project future snow depth at ski resorts,
- compare two methodological approaches (regression vs. VIC),
- assess the impact of climate change on future ski resorts,
- or analyze snow–climate sensitivity in a more general sense
2. Methodology is hard to follow:Â
- how are regression parameters derived from observations (a figure would be very helpful for illustration),
- how is VIC used and how it differs conceptually from the regression approach,
- how elevation differences between SNOTEL sites and ski resorts are handled.Â
3. Unclear relevance to the impact on ski resort:
Despite the title and the introduction, the analysis only presents changes in snow depth and the sensitivity of snow depth to temperature and precipitation, without translating these changes into ski-relevant outcomes. Critical aspects raised in the introduction, such as season length, snow depths in winter months (December and January), thresholds of snow depths relevant for skiing, and economic impacts, but are not addressed in the results. The research question “how unfavorable is climate change for the winter sport industry” is hence not addressed and the actual impact on ski resort viability remains unclear.
4. Missing analyses (elevation, seasonality)
Elevation is repeatedly mentioned as important, but it is not reported in the table, or stated which elevation was used as ski resorts have a large range. Furthermore, the manuscript would highly benefit from analyzing the elevation dependence of projected changes. The winter months December and January are mentioned as being very important, but February is shown and December is not even analyzed.
5. Clarity and precision
- imprecise and sometimes incorrect terminology,
- incorrect figure panel references,
- unclear figure captions and missing legends,
- reliance on supplementary figures that are not shown or explained,
- numerous minor but distracting editorial errors (citations, hyphenation, missing DOIs).
Minor:
- Fig. 1: How many years are the long-term average?
- Fig. 3: Please write units into the axis-labels. X-ticks are too small
- Fig. 3: It would be nice to indicate those regions in Fig. 2, too (California, Cascades, eastern…)
- Fig. 3: Where does the uncertainty for each resort come from? Please explain what is shown in this graph.
- Fig. 3: The text says (L. ) the x-axis is the “climatological mean November-January site temperature”, please add this information in the caption, so it’s more self-explaining. How many years are used for computing the “climatological” Nov-Jan mean temperature? Is it the site temperature of the SNOTEL site or the temperature of the ski resort? Please clarify.
- Fig. 4: Legend for colors missing, consider adding number of ski resort in the y-axis. X-axis label is too small.
- Fig. 4: Please rewrite the caption, so it’s clearer: Projected change of 10 individual climate scenarios (orange triangles), average change of climate scenarios (orange bar?). Bars are the individual contributions of a_T* dT (deep colors) and a_t*dP (light colors to the right, positive contribution). Clarify in the caption.
- Fig. 4: How does this contribution correlate to elevation?
- Fig. 5: What are brown and turquoise arrows? Should the black line not cross the 0/0 point?
- Fig. 5: The caption says that red and green arrows indicate extremes in climate change. When I compare panel a with panel b, the orange arrow in panel a shows an extreme temperature change of less than 3°C (from -5°C to -2.sth) but the right panel indicates extreme changes of 4°C. Please clarify what those arrows mean.
- Fig. 6: There’s a lot of information in here, maybe consider putting this figure in the supplements. It’s also confusing that the order is different to Figure 4 and Figure 7.
- Fig. 7: What are grey bars and colored bars? Is the change in snow depth shown or the mean snow depths for past and future? Color legend missing. Tick-labels are too small.
- Fig. 6 and Fig. 7: Both Figures seem to be very similar to Figure 4 and might not contribute to the clarity of the manuscript. I would consider putting these in the appendix and instead, include one Figure to better illustrate and clarify the methodology. Another interesting investigation is the dependency on elevation, which is not addressed here and would add value to this manuscript.
- Table 1: Why do these values differ from the values shown in Figure 3?
- Table A1: Add elevation to the ski resorts.
- L. 10: at 41 *selected* ski resorts
- L. 11: in Washington, Idaho, Oregon, and California during the ski season (no comma after California?)
- L. 17: low temperature sensitivity there and over high altitudes … (*there* likely refers to Idaho and higher elevations, but please clarify what it is, *over*?)
- L. 49 & L 50: comma missing in citation
- L. 53: Hyphenation of *calcula-tions* is superscript
- L. 91: Hyphenation of *econ-omy* is superscript
- L. 101: observations, is: *just* how unfavorable is: remove *just*
- L. 101: Maybe this question could be more explicit, as it is not clear what the goal is.
- L. 103-110: To address this question, we use a combination of …. : To do what? With your stated research question and the methods, you are using, it is still not clear to me what the goal of this study is. Do you predict future snow depth with two different approaches or are you using them for something else?
- L. 114–126: You are summarizing the focusses of other studies, but not really what the focus of you study is. Is the focus being to report December and January changes of snow depth and SWE changes only, then there where many studies in Europe which describe those seasonal changes and which should be mentioned in the introduction:
- Predict seasonal evolution of snow with climate change, e.g.:
- Marty, C., Schlögl, S., Bavay, M., and Lehning, M.: How much can we save? Impact of different emission scenarios on future snow cover in the Alps, The Cryosphere, 11, 517–529, https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-11-517-2017, 2017.
- Richter, B. and Marty, C.: Technical note: Literature based approach to estimate future snow, EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-3518, 2025.
- Changes in winter snow depth (December-February) with climate change:
- Schmucki, E., Marty, C., Fierz, C., Weingartner, R., and Lehning, M.: Impact of climate change in Switzerland on socioeconomic snow indices, Theoretical and Applied Climatology, 127, 875–889, https://doi.org/10.1007/s00704-015-1676-7, 2017
- Predict seasonal evolution of snow with climate change, e.g.:
- L. 132: Could be helpful to mention the ski resort id’s here, instead of the number of ski resorts for each state, e.g. California (35-41).
- L. 147-148: Do you use an average of all stations within 50km? And if there were none within 10km, why did you then only use the closest two? How did you account for the elevation difference, you mention 200m average distance, did you also allow stations, that are outside the elevation ranges of a ski resort?
- L. 152-155: In your objectives (L. 114-126), you stated that December is an important month for ski resorts and there are no studies focusing on snow depth declines for the month of December and January, and here you write that there’s no data available in December. Please consider rewriting your objectives to be more consistent. Furthermore, which temporal resolution do snow observations have, daily, monthly? Why are less data available for January?
- L. 167-190: Please describe those two approaches and their difference more clearly as this paragraph is hard to understand. As I understand, the Climate toolbox was used to retrieve temperature and precipitation and season-to-date values for future, and not future SWE values. The first paragraph mixes SWE values retrieved from VIC with climate data on TA and P. The second paragraph then explains how to retrieve future SWE from observations, which is mixed with retrieving regression parameters from VIC, which is confusing. Please structure this methods part more clearly. Also please give a bit more details on the VIC method.
- L. 178-190: An illustration or an example for a SNOTEL site would help to clarify this methodology. How were regression parameters derived? As I understand, you have measured HS for several days between January and April (daily values?) from around year 2000 until today. Then, for each HS measurement (for example HS=153 cm on 15. January 2023), average season-to-date temperature is documented (here: average temperature between 1. November 2022 and 15. January 2023 is -5°C), similar with precipitation. Then, do you perform a regression between HS and average temperature data points and predict changes in HS using the same regression parameters? You could illustrate this methodology using a scatter plot with HS and temperature and HS and precipitation for one site and showing the regression lines.
- L. 179: What are the “important modification”?
- L. 184: Luce, 2014 is using an interaction term in the regression, why did you neglect this term?
- L. 191: What is MACA?
- L. 217: Precipitation is not shown in Figure 3B but precipitation coefficient! Please be more precise with your terminology.
- L. 219-212: You state that “eastern sites have a weak sensitivity to temperature but are very sensitive to precipitation”. Both regression coefficients seem to have similar magnitudes, a_T ~-1cm/°C and a_P >0.8cm/cm, if they are at all comparable due to different units. I think this statement needs a bit more context, how much precipitation change, vs temperature change is expected until mid-century? Does the positive contribution of precipitation counterbalance the negative contribution of temperature? Figure 4 shows that most purple bars will have less snow in future, which shows that this statement is wrong.
- L. 223: Did you want to refer to Table 1?
- L. 223-229: Please show Figure S1 as it’s hard to follow the paragraph without it.
- L. 231: Which variance, the variance in a_T? Which average? Please be more precise.
- L. 239-249: It seems like mostly the cascades diverge, please discuss that.
- L. 263: the lighter *colors* instead of *components*?
- L. 261: For each *ski resort* instead of *bar*?
- L. 351: Panel b and *d*?
- L. 352: *steep values*, *shallow values*? I think you are referring to the slope of the black lines, however *steep values* are not very scientific expressions. Please explain this, add units to those numbers, maybe explain what numbers imply, e.g. what does a value of 0.1 compared to 0.05 mean for climate change? Also, it would be beneficial if these numbers were also shown in the corresponding Figure for better interpretation.
- L. 353 or 354: there is no black line in panel c!
- L. 355: Why is the line number not aligned with the text?
- Discussion: Many points are discussed which are not relevant to the results shown in this manuscript, e.g. elevation dependence and artificial snow making.
- L. 420: *base* elevation for ski resorts? That’s not mentioned in the methods, please clearly state in the methods section which elevation of ski resorts are used.
- L. 556 The European Mountain cryosphere: a review of its current state, trends, and future challenges.: Authors and Doi missing.
- Bibliography: Please make it consistent, sometime DOI’s are missing, sometimes it’s a link sometimes not. Sometime authors are missing.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-5113-RC2
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General comments
The manuscript addresses the vulnerability of ski resorts in the western United States, to climate change by using proxy snow and climate data and projecting future snow depth under climate scenarios. The topic is clearly relevant and timely, as climate impacts on winter tourism have important economic and social implications. However, in its current form, I find it difficult to understand what the study is ultimately useful for and what new scientific insight it provides beyond what has already been established in the literature.
Several previous studies have already investigated essentially the same research question - how unfavorable climate change is for the winter sports industry in the western US: Wobus et al. (2017) and Scott & Steiger (2024). Against this backdrop, the novelty and added value of the present study are unclear.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.gloenvcha.2017.04.006
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Major comments
Without a clear positioning relative to existing studies, the manuscript risks being perceived as a partial replication without sufficient added insight.
From an operational perspective, a (e.g.) 20% reduction in snow depth may be:
Because the manuscript does not define or analyze operational thresholds, the results are difficult to interpret in terms of real-world impacts on ski resorts. As currently presented, the findings remain largely descriptive rather than decision-relevant.
The omission should be more clearly justified, and the limitations for interpreting ski industry impacts should be discussed more explicitly.
I see no clear rationale for focusing on RCP4.5 while effectively ignoring RCP8.5 in the results. At a minimum, the authors should:
Without this, the study understates uncertainty.
I recommend restructuring the results to emphasize key messages and comparative insights, rather than listing many individual values.
What was the altitudinal difference between the temperature data used and the actual elevation of the ski resorts?
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Specific comments:
Fig 7: figure not self-explanatory. what is the difference between grey and color?
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