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Rapid formation of hydroxymethyl hydroperoxide and its vital role in methanesulfonic acid-methylamine nucleation: impacts of urban industrial and forested areas
Abstract. Organic peroxides are widely recognized as important contributors to secondary organic aerosols formation. Among these, hydroxymethyl hydroperoxide (HMHP) is a common species found in both the gas phase and fine aerosols. Despite its abundance, the molecular-level formation of HMHP through methanesulfonic acid (MSA)-catalyzed hydrolysis of CH2OO, particularly in the gas phase and at the air-water interface, remains insufficiently examined. Moreover, the role of HMHP in new particle formation (NPF) has not been fully elucidated. Herein, we employ quantum chemical calculations together with Born-Oppenheimer molecular dynamics simulations to investigate HMHP formation from CH2OO hydrolysis with MSA under both gas phase and interfacial conditions. Our results show that HMHP forms rapidly and stably in both environments. Further analysis using the atmospheric cluster dynamics code reveals that HMHP not only enhances the clustering stability of MSA-methylamine (MA) clusters, but also exerts a direct role in promoting MSA-MA nucleation. Importantly, in regions with elevated HMHP concentrations (3.00 × 1010 - 1.25 × 1011 molecules · cm-3), such as Niwot Ridge and Southeastern United States, the HMHP-involved pathways contribute unexpectedly up to 42 % and 59 % of total nucleation flux at 258.15 K, respectively. These findings provide new insights into HMHP formation pathways and the efficient MSA-MA-HMHP nucleation mechanism, offering a plausible explanation for the frequent and intense NPF events observed in continental regions.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-4960', Anonymous Referee #1, 24 Nov 2025 reply
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-4960', Anonymous Referee #2, 27 Nov 2025
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Major comments: While I am not an expert in quantum calculations or molecular dynamics, this manuscript clearly addresses the enhanced formation of HMHP via MSA-catalysed hydrolysis of CH₂OO and highlights its importance in new particle formation. The theoretical results presented provide valuable guidance for future research on SA- and MSA-derived nucleation.
However, as shown in Figure 6, the MSA concentrations are around 1 × 10⁴ in all locations, which is near the detection limit of the CIMS, if that is the instrument used. It is unclear how reliable these data are for quantifying MSA’s contribution to nucleation or HMHP formation. I suggest that the authors tone down the emphasis on the importance of MSA-HMHP formation in urban industrial regions. Because, as usual, SA-MA or SA-NH3 are the main nucleation mechanisms in the urban industrial regions.
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Lines 53–59: The manuscript should clarify why MSA is important in this study. Its atmospheric abundance varies widely: typically high in the marine atmosphere and free troposphere, but often very low over continental regions. The authors should provide an estimate of the average MSA concentration in continental areas. Compared to H₂O dimers, MSA is much lower in concentration, so the text should explicitly explain why its role in nucleation is significant despite its low abundance.
Lines 79–81: The current sentence about discrepancies between measured and modelled global NPF rates is unclear. It is not accurate to attribute differences solely to MSA-driven nucleation. The authors should clarify that global NPF simulations can be influenced by multiple factors, including missing nucleation mechanisms, NH₃ concentrations, and other environmental parameters. A rephrasing is needed to reflect these more accurately.
Lines 84-85: MSA in urban industrial areas and forested areas are low. And the NPF mechanisms are SA-base plus AP. MSA’s importance on NPF in these areas can not convince me.
Lines 178–180: At this MSA level, the reaction is reported to be more favourable than that with NH₃. How does it compare to the response with H₂O?
Section 3.3 and 3.4: When assessing the importance of HMHP in MSA–MA nucleation, it is essential to investigate and compare the behaviour of HMHP–MSA–MA clusters with that of SA–MA clusters. Such a comparison would help clarify the relative importance of HMHP–MSA–MA nucleation.
Section 3.4: All the locations discussed in this section exhibit extremely low MSA concentrations. It is unclear why a site with higher MSA levels was not selected for analysis. Additionally, it would be important to compare your proposed mechanism with existing pathways such as SA–NH₃, SA–MA, SA–AP, and others. Without such comparisons, the claim regarding the importance of HMHP–MSA–MA nucleation may not be fully justified.
Lines 330-332: What is the main nucleation mechanism in Niwot Ridge and the southeastern United States? Is MSA-MA-driven NPF the main mechanism there?
Figure 6: Please clarify the sources of the vapour concentrations used in this figure. Where were these values obtained?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-4960-RC2
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Publisher’s note: this comment was edited on 1 December 2025. The following text is not identical to the original comment, but the adjustments were minor without effect on the scientific meaning.
The manuscript by Li et al. presents a detailed theoretical investigation into the formation mechanism of hydroxymethyl hydroperoxide (HMHP) via methanesulfonic acid (MSA)-catalyzed hydrolysis of CH₂OO in both the gas phase and at the air-water interface, and its significant role in enhancing MSA-methylamine (MA)-driven new particle formation (NPF). This study employed quantum chemical calculations, Born-Oppenheimer molecular dynamics simulations, and atmospheric cluster dynamics code to provide molecular-level insights into the catalytic effect of MSA and the promoting role of HMHP in nucleation. This study enhances our understanding of HMHP in the atmosphere. I recommend publication of this manuscript after consideration of the following comments:
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