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From Alnus to Pinus: temperate peatland ecosystem transformation triggered by human-driven landscape change
Abstract. Peatlands are invaluable archives of palaeoenvironmental and climate dynamics, play a central role in the global carbon cycle and hydrological processes, preserve biological diversity, and act as climatic microrefugia. Over the millennia, these ecosystems have been heavily modified by human land use, including drainage, overgrazing or peat extraction, leading to their large-scale degradation in many regions. Knowledge of the long-term dynamics of peatlands is crucial for determining their conservation and restoration needs as well as for predicting their evolution, including response to climate change, community changes, carbon sequestration potential. Here we adopted an interdisciplinary approach to investigate the relationships between climate, vegetation, tree growth, hydrology, and human activities in a peatland ecosystem in one of the poorly explored regions of Central Europe, the Solska Forest in southeastern Poland. We used different types of proxy data from natural and human archives: long-term meteorological data (1792–2020), tree-ring data (1729–2022) from living peatland pines, palaeoecological data from the peat sediment (pollen, plant macrofossils, testate amoebae and charcoal data) and archival written and cartographic sources to reconstruct local ecosystem and landscape dynamics and assess possible climatic and anthropogenic impacts. Our results document a complete transition of a peatland ecosystem from black alder bog forest to Scots pine bog forest, most likely triggered by several factors, mainly land use change and associated fire activity, among others, in particular the landscape-scale expansion of the pine forests and the resulting environmental acidification that triggered Sphagnum encroachment. Our multi-proxy environmental reconstruction of the last >2,300 years also revealed considerable hydrological instability of the peatland and a complex interplay of different landscape shaping influences. In addition, certain advantages, challenges and limitations of multi-proxy studies of landscape history and ecosystem dynamics were highlighted, such as the different temporal resolution and coverage of the archives studied (including the problem of periods with no or very little data) or inconsistency of the quantitative and qualitative data. With this study, we have demonstrated the multifaceted interactions between different biotic and abiotic factors affecting both landscape and peatland ecosystems, confirmed the importance of long-term environmental records for conservation ecology and land management, and emphasized the continuing need for further research on peatland ecology, including past and current changes. Further, linking nature and human archives allowed us to gain a deeper understanding of a complex environmental system, with added value from combining different approaches.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3975', Normunds Stivrins, 05 Oct 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Ewa Zin, 19 Jan 2026
The authors would like to thank prof. Normunds Stivrins for his positive and encouraging feedback. We truly appreciate your thorough review and your commendation of our interdisciplinary approach and the overall quality of the study. We are grateful for your specific comments, which are very helpful and will certainly assist us in improving our manuscript. Please find our responses to them below.
Specific comments
P1, line 28-52: The abstract is informative, but some repetition could be reduced (e.g., multi-proxy reconstruction, biotic and abiotic factors etc). A brief final sentence highlighting implications for restoration or conservation would strengthen the abstract’s applied relevance.
Thank you for this relevant comment. We will revise the abstract to avoid repetition. In addition, to address the comments of both Referees, we will modify the text to increase the precision of the conclusions. Following the Referees’ suggestions, we will add a final sentence to highlight the key results and emphasise the applied relevance of the study.
Introduction
p.3, line 120-134: The link between human impacts and the interdisciplinary approach could be made more explicit “to address these long-term human-environment interactions, we combine palaeoecological, dendrochronological, and historical archives …”
Thank you for this valuable suggestion. We will correct it accordingly.
Materials and Methods
p.10-12:
(1) the terminology describing peat decomposition should follow common usage. My suggestion is to use ”highly decomposed” instead of “heavily decomposed”, and “poorly decomposed” instead of “weakly decomposed”. Please consider this throughout the manuscript.
We will make the necessary modifications throughout the manuscript.
(2) Clarify the reason for selecting a 50 cm peat core (e.g., focus on recent centuries or sampling limitations).
Our peat sample represented the peat depth at the sampling point, which was selected to be relatively close (<500 m) to our sample trees, representing an old-growth Scots pine population providing a long tree ring chronology. We will add this information to the description of our sampling points in the Material and methods section.
p.11: radiocarbon dating including Table 1: The table indicates “pollen (extracted)” samples for 14C. Please specify how pollen was extracted for dating (chemical isolation, manual picking etc) and how much material was used. These details are important for assessing the reliability of pollen-based radiocarbon ages.
The pollen extract was prepared according to the procedure specified in the Oxford Long-Term Ecology Laboratory’s “Pollen preparation procedure for radiocarbon dating” protocol, based on Brown et al. (1989). The pollen was extracted from 2 cm3 of sediment. We will add these details in the Materials and methods section, including Table 1, along with the corresponding reference.
Brown, T. A., Nelson, D. E., Mathewes, R. W., Vogel, J. S., and Southon, J. R.: Radiocarbon Dating of Pollen by Accelerator Mass Spectrometry, Quaternary Res, 32, 205–212, 10.1016/0033-5894(89)90076-8, 1989.
p.11, section 2.4.2.: The methods mention using Lycopodium tablets to estimate palynomorph concentrations, yet no pollen concentration results are reported later. If these were not used, please clarify and rephrase the methodology accordingly. If data exist, consider presenting absolute pollen concentrations for pine and alder, as these could potentially provide additional insights into vegetation productivity changes.
Thank you for this important comment. Concentration was necessary to calculate the annual influx, which was presented in the case of microcharcoal. For clarity, we will rephrase the description of our methodology accordingly.
Possible term improvement: in figure captions and text, replace “charcoal grains” with “charcoal particles”. Also, use “charcoal” in singular form instead of “charcoals” (current version in some pages and figures).
We will make the necessary modifications throughout the manuscript.
Results
p.18, line 511-518: The authors interpret a hiatus at ~37 cm based on a lithological change and supposed charcoal enrichment. However, the macroscopic charcoal record (Fig. 8) shows low charcoal concentration at this depth, with the main peak around 18 cm. This does not support the statement about high charcoal content at 37 cm.
Considering both the lithological change and the age-detph model, this interval likely reflects a shift in sedimentation and decomposition processes rather than a true hiatus. The most probable explanation is a period of reduced accumulation under drier conditions, consistent with the climate context described in Sectiont 4.1.2. Such transitions are typical in peatlands when moisture regimes change from drier to wetter phases. My suggestion is to rewrite this part to describe it as a “transition in sedimentation regime” rather than a depositional hiatus.
Thank you for this insightful comment. We agree that the charcoal distribution alone (with higher values above the boundary) is not sufficient to argue for a fire-driven depositional break. However, we would like to retain the interpretation of a hiatus in peat accumulation (i.e., a period of strongly reduced or absent net accumulation, potentially including oxidation/loss of previously formed peat), because this is best supported by our chronological evidence.
Specifically, the two radiocarbon ages that bracket the transition indicate an interval of ~1,400 years with no preserved accumulation between the underlying, highly decomposed massive peat and the onset of the overlying Sphagnum peat. In our age–depth framework this appears as an abrupt step rather than a gradual change in accumulation rate, which is more consistent with a stratigraphic gap (non-deposition and/or loss of material) than with simply slower peat growth. We therefore interpret the boundary as a real interruption in net peat accumulation, followed by a marked qualitative shift to Sphagnum-dominated peat formation beginning around c. 1830.
At the same time, we acknowledge that an alternative (and not mutually exclusive) explanation is that peat originally deposited between the two dated horizons was subsequently degraded and lost (e.g., through oxidation/decomposition during lowered water tables), producing an apparent gap in the preserved stratigraphy.
In this context, the charcoal peak above the boundary can be understood as reflecting burning during or after the re-initiation of peat accumulation, rather than at the exact boundary itself. This is also consistent with the independent tree ring evidence of a disturbance in the early 19th century. First, we have clear evidence of fire within our study site (in situ), recorded by our sample trees (Fig. 4; L. 814–817), which were located within 500 m of the peat sediment sampling point; one tree sampled near the peat coring location shows a fire scar dated to 1830. Second, the presence of young pine regeneration may also indicate a disturbance that opened the landscape at that time. Together, this suggests a disturbance close to the time when Sphagnum peat accumulation started. We will revise the text to make clear that the hiatus interpretation is primarily based on radiocarbon bracketing (the missing time interval) and the abrupt shift in peat type, while charcoal is treated as supporting contextual evidence for disturbance timing rather than the sole basis for identifying the hiatus.
For chronological control of the transition, we intentionally selected two radiocarbon samples: (i) from the highly decomposed, massive peat; and (ii) from the overlying Sphagnum peat above. This bracketing strategy is designed to constrain the timing of the end of the former state and the onset of the new Sphagnum-dominated phase. In contrast, dating charcoal from the transition horizon would primarily provide the age of the burned wood (potentially including inbuilt age and reworking), and would not reliably constrain the timing of the fire event nor the ecosystem shift, often with a large uncertainty. We will clarify this rationale in the revised manuscript.
Regarding the climate context described in Section 4.1.2, our data confirm drier conditions during the early decades of the 19th century; however this did not preclude interannual extremes, such as the substantially wetter conditions of 1813 and 1815 (Figs. 3 and S3). The gap in our peat archive (c. 1400–1830 CE) coincides with several European droughts, including megadroughts from c. 1400–1480 CE and c. 1770–1840 CE. These were interspersed with pluvial periods, indicating a high degree of hydroclimatic variability. Notably, existing data do not suggest that this era was drier than the modern period of anthropogenic climate change (Cook et al., 2015, 2022; Büntgen et al., 2011, 2021). If a drier climate were the primary driver of peat accumulation dynamics between 1400 and 1830 CE, we would expect to observe similar dynamics in the most recent part of our reconstruction, which we do not (Fig. 7). Consequently, we suggest that factors beyond climate must have played a significant role in the ecosystem transition we documented, as discussed in our study. The earliest period of our reconstruction, covering c. 1,700 years (c. 330 BCE–1400 CE), also coincides with several pluvials and droughts in Europe, including the megadrought of c. 1000–1200 CE (Cook et al., 2015, 2022; Büntgen et al., 2011, 2021), which demonstrates a high level of hydroclimatic variability throughout the entire period of our reconstruction.
We sincerely appreciate this thoughtful remark. We will carefully consider this point during revision and hope that the changes and the expanded explanation will provide a clear and convincing justification for our interpretation.
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Discussion
Throughout the manuscript, the transition from Alnus-dominated den to Pinus-dominated bog is strongly attributed to human activity. While these drivers may have played an important role, the evidence presented also suggests that natural hydroclimatic factors and autogenic peatland processes could have contributed significantly to this transformation. For instance, the transition coincides with a period of dry climatic conditions (Section 4.1.2) and with signs of increased peat decomposition and reduced peat accumulation rate, which could result from lower effective moisture and gradual peat surface elevation. Such processes are common in fen-bog succession even without direct anthropogenic disturbance. I would recommend acknowledging also that observed vegetation shift likely reflects a combination of natural climatic variability and human influence, rather than being entirely human-driven phenomena. This would make the discussion more balanced and ecologically realistic. In addition, then I would suggest modifying the title: “From Alnus to Pinus: natural and human drivers of temperate peatland transformation”.
Thank you for this thoughtful and constructive suggestion. We agree that attributing the Alnus-to-Pinus transition too strongly to human activity may give an overly one-sided impression. While our data and historical context indicate that human influence likely contributed to the transformation, we acknowledge that natural hydroclimatic variability and autogenic peatland processes could also have played an important role. In particular, the timing overlaps with the drier climatic conditions discussed in Section 4.1.2 and with evidence for increased decomposition and reduced apparent peat accumulation, which can be consistent with reduced effective moisture and internal peatland dynamics typical of fen–bog succession. We will therefore revise the Discussion section to frame the vegetation shift more explicitly as the outcome of interacting natural (climatic and autogenic) and anthropogenic drivers.
We also sincerely appreciate your suggestion to modify the title to better reflect this multi-driver perspective. After careful consideration, however, we have decided to retain our original title, as we believe it best captures the main focus and narrative of the manuscript and remains consistent with the overall structure and aims of the study. To address your important point, we will instead strengthen the wording throughout the Discussion (and where relevant in the Abstract) to ensure that the balanced interpretation is clearly communicated in the manuscript itself.
Section 4.1.2. (Transition period): The authors themselves note that this interval corresponds to dry climatic conditions, which supports the interpretation of enhanced decomposition and slower accumulation rather than a hiatus. Please make this link more explicit in the text.
As we explained in our earlier response (above), our data confirm drier conditions in the early 19th century, although high hydroclimatic variability persisted (Figs. 3 and S3). Due to the substantial hydroclimatic variability recorded in Europe throughout the period of our reconstruction, climate alone cannot explain the gap in our peat archive. Therefore, we maintain that non-climatic factors must have played a significant role alongside these documented climate shifts. For clarity, we will revise the Discussion to more explicitly characterise the ecosystem shift as a response to the complex interplay between anthropogenic influences and natural climatic or autogenic processes.
In addition, the observation that peat accumulation was low during the Alnus carr stage is fully consistent with fen hydrology, where fluctuating water tables lead to variable aeration and high decomposition of biomass. Similar low fen peat accumulation rates and shifts in sedimentation rates and peatland types have been recorded also in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland. Consider explicitly mentioning this as a natural fen characteristic rather than a sign of disturbance.
Thank you for this comment. We agree with the main point: low peat accumulation during the Alnus carr (fen) stage can be fully consistent with natural fen hydrology. In systems with fluctuating water tables, periodic aeration commonly enhances organic matter decomposition and can reduce net peat accumulation even in the absence of direct disturbance. We will revise the text to make this clearer and to avoid implying that low accumulation rates during the Alnus stage necessarily indicate anthropogenic impact.
At the same time, our interpretation is that the observed transformation reflects a synergy of drivers rather than a single cause. We consider that hydroclimatic variability (including the drier conditions described in Section 4.1.2) and autogenic peatland development provided a natural trajectory and vulnerability, while human activity likely contributed additional pressure. In our view, these interacting factors culminated in a threshold response (“tipping point”), leading to a rapid reorganisation of ecosystem state from Alnus-dominated carr to a Pinus-dominated bog. We will adjust the Discussion section to explicitly frame the shift in this way and to distinguish background fen characteristics from the factors associated with the ecosystem turning point.
Following your suggestion, we will also add references and brief context noting that similarly low fen peat accumulation rates and transitions in sedimentation regimes and peatland types have been documented in boreal–temperate peatlands across the Baltic region and Finland. We will incorporate and discuss the respective publications to support this broader, ecologically realistic framing in the revised manuscript.
Line 778-785: Above other factors, authors list also peat mining. Please clarify whether peat extraction actually occurred at the study site. Considering thin layer of peat at sampling site, it seems that peat mining probably was not economically feasible. If peat mining (and other mentioned factors within these lines) was not done at the study site, please revise text and include only relevant factors such as drainage, forest management, fire, and natural hydroclimatic variability.
We fully agree that our original sentence may be misleading, as there is no evidence of peat mining at our study site. Our intention was to list various possible factors known from the literature that could have triggered cohort tree regeneration in a peatland. We agree with the comment and will revise the text by removing “peat mining (Freléchoux et al., 2000)” (L. 782–783).
Figures and table
Overall, figures are nice and well contribute the main text. One possible suggestion, if possible, please enlarge slightly text in Figs. 5-6 for readability.
We will correct it accordingly.
Ensure figure captions reflect correct terminology (e.g., charcoal particles).
We will revise figure captions throughout the manuscript to ensure they use correct terminology.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-3975-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Ewa Zin, 19 Jan 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3975', Katarzyna Marcisz, 14 Dec 2025
The manuscript by Zin et al. presents an interdisciplinary study that uses palaeoecology, dendrochronology and a wide set of historical data to reconstruct history of environmental changes and anthropogenic influence on a peatland in E Poland. There were not many long-term studies published from this area, it is therefore a vital contribution to scientific literature of this region. Also, it combines proxies that are not that commonly used together – palaeoecological proxies and dendrochronology. The data are nicely amalgamated and the interpretations are very detailed. Overall, I think this well-integrated data set deserves publication in international journal. Yet, I think the text needs corrections before it is accepted for publication. The manuscript is well structured, however, in my opinion, some parts need major improvement – especially discussion (please see specific comments below). Therefore, I suggest major revisions.
Specific comments:
Title “From Alnus to Pinus: […]” – in its current form the title suggests that Alnus and Pinus were the sole species in this ecosystem. Maybe it would be better to change this to something like: “Transition from alder- to pine-dominated forest: […]”?
Lines 47-52: these conclusions are very vague; a bit more specific information would be useful here. I would also suggest to add a summary sentence at the end of the abstract to recap the results.
Line 153 – is Solska Forest marked properly on the map in Fig. 1a? In the figure it looks like it is located further than 30 km from the border with Ukraine.
Line 156 – I do not think this region is included in the globally important biodiversity hotspots list https://www.nature.com/articles/35002501.pdf ; please rephrase.
Figure 1 – on the map we can see two peatlands highlighted – Wielkie Bagno and Rakowe, while the manuscript is focused only on Wielkie Bagno. In the text it is stated that Rakowe is another wetland located in the vicinity of Wielkie Bagno (Lines 892 and 898), whereas later on (lines 1067-1068) authors write that this is another name for Wielkie Bagno. Please clarify.
I also think Fig. 1 could be enlarged – the details on maps 1i-e are not well visible.
Line 330 – please explain what methodology was used for pollen radiocarbon dating.
Lines 381-384 – test construction and mixotrophs sum – it is interesting to look at functional traits of testate amoebae, however, this information is included in the Figure 11 but it is not discussed later on in the manuscript. Can you include the interpretative value of traits in the description of results and discussion?
Lines 393-395 – what is the potential distance of fires from the studied site? Do you have any estimates? Please add this info to the text as it is important for interpretation.
Figure 2 – I would suggest changing the figure a bit – put first data and later data resolution, than the graph.
Chapter 3.1.1 – I do not understand why the comparison of meteorological data from two stations is important here? Why not use the data form a nearer located station rather than from two stations?
Figures 3, 5 and 6 – are all these needed in the main body of the text? Maybe some can be moved to supplement as there is a lot of figures in the manuscript already.
Lines 458-459 – can you mark these years on Fig. 4? It will be helpful to see it presented together with chronology.
Figures 8, 9 and 11 – the text is too small, please enlarge the font.
The hiatus – is it really a hiatus? Charcoal is present above the boundary, not at the boundary level or below. Maybe it is an effect of decrease in peat accumulation rates or high decomposition rates at that time? Why was charcoal not used for dating? As the main line of the interpretation is that the hiatus is an effect of fire, dating charcoal would be a better approach. As charcoal counts are not very high in the hiatus horizon, the amount of charcoal is increasing several layers above – maybe it would be worth considering other line of interpretation, e.g., not presence of the hiatus, but a decrease in peat accumulation due to dry conditions in the peatland? This interpretation could be supported by testate amoeba data and the lack of tests below the transition zone.
Line 674 – was there now peat below the sampled core? Did authors reach the bottom of the entire peat deposit in this sampling location?
My main suggestion for changes is to substantially shorten the Discussion, especially sections 4.1 and 4.2. Now the Discussion covers 15 full pages, which is too long. I checked word count for this section and it is over 12 000 words – this sum makes a word limit for the entire manuscript in most of the palaeoecological journal (in fact, most journals have word limit for submissions between 8 000 and 12 000 words). Also, there are long sections stretching several pages with no sub-sections or highlights of the main message. Because of that it is hard to stay focused while reading this text. I suggest moving some of the text to supplement (less vital information that is not essential for data interpretation), and shorten the remaining text. Especially the amount of historical data included in the interpretation should be shortened: 1st of all, it is too overwhelming and it is hard to focus on the text with so much data in it; 2nd of all – Biogeosciences journal is not a historical journal so in its current form the discussion is not fully in line with journal’s scope. E.g.:
- lines 710-855 – these are 3.5 pages of results description with lots of historical detail. In my opinion most of this text with detailed historical context should be moved to the supplement and this chapter should be max 1.5 page long. The information is interesting, but it does not really improve the interpretation. If some readers will be interested in historical detail, then they can look it up in the supplement. Otherwise, the text is suited more to historical journal and not palaeoecological one.
- Chapter 4.1.3 is also very long – 4.5 pages. It is hard to focus on reading as there is a lot of information that is not vital for the interpretation. Detailed descriptions can be moved to a supplement (e.g., meticulous information about the estate ownership and which administrative regions it belonged to – this is not crucial to interpret palaeodata) and only the most important events should be presented in the main manuscript.
- Chapter 4.2 – again, too much and too detailed historical data description.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-3975-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Ewa Zin, 19 Jan 2026
The authors would like to thank prof. Katarzyna Marcisz for her thoughtful and constructive feedback on the manuscript. We greatly appreciate your recognition of our multi-proxy approach and our contribution to understanding long-term peatland dynamics in a relatively unexplored area in this respect. We value your comments and will address them carefully. Please find our responses below.
Specific comments:
Title “From Alnus to Pinus: […]” – in its current form the title suggests that Alnus and Pinus were the sole species in this ecosystem. Maybe it would be better to change this to something like: “Transition from alder- to pine-dominated forest: […]”?
Thank you for your comment. Our aim was to keep the first part of the title concise to attract potential readers. Therefore, more detailed information is provided in the second part of the title and later in the manuscript. We fully agree that alder and pine were likely not the only tree species present in the communities we discussed, especially in transition zones towards locally different microsites where a more diverse dendroflora should be expected (Faliński, 1986; Leuschner and Ellenberg, 2017). However, black alder (Alnus glutinosa) and Scots pine (Pinus sylvestris) are both major, defining components of both the alder carr (black alder bog forest, Carici elongatae-Alnetum) and the Scots pine bog forest (Vaccinio uliginosi-Pinetum) communities, with overriding dominance over other tree taxa, which are largely outcompeted in these very specific habitats (Matuszkiewicz, 2007; Leuschner and Ellenberg, 2017). This is also reflected in our data, with distinct differences in both pollen percentages and the proportion of plant macrofossil remains of Alnus and Pinus between the lower and upper parts of the peat profile (Figs. 8 and 9). Therefore, we consider referring to Alnus and Pinus in the title of our study to be entirely justified and we prefer to keep the title unchanged.
Faliński, J. B.: Vegetation Dynamics in Temperate Lowland Primeval Forest. Ecological Studies in Białowieża Forest, Dr W. Junk Publishers, Dordrecht, 1986.
Leuschner, C. and Ellenberg, H.: Ecology of Central European Forests: Vegetation Ecology of Central Europe, Volume I, Springer International Publishing, Cham, 10.1007/978-3-319-43042-3, 2017.
Matuszkiewicz, J. M.: Geobotaniczne rozpoznanie tendencji rozwojowych zbiorowisk leśnych w wybranych regionach Polski, Monografie IGiPZ PAN, 8, Instytut Geografii i Przestrzennego Zagospodarowania im. Stanisława Leszczyckiego PAN, Warszawa, 2007.
Lines 47-52: these conclusions are very vague; a bit more specific information would be useful here. I would also suggest to add a summary sentence at the end of the abstract to recap the results.
We appreciate this important comment. We will modify this part by adding more specific information and underscoring our central results. In addition, to address the comments of both Referees, we will carefully revise the abstract to avoid repetition and increase the precision of the conclusions. Following the Referees’ suggestions, we will add a final sentence to highlight the key results and emphasise the applied relevance of the study.
Line 153 – is Solska Forest marked properly on the map in Fig. 1a? In the figure it looks like it is located further than 30 km from the border with Ukraine.
Thank you for this valuable remark. In the description of our study area (L. 152–155), we stated that the Wielkie Bagno peatland is located approx. 30 km from the border with Ukraine and that the Solska Forest is a large forest area stretching from the Vistula River in the west to the border with Ukraine in the east (50°48'N, 21°56'E–50°13'N, 23°26'E), which is approx. 150 km. The point shown in Figure 1a indicates the approximate centre of the Solska Forest (near Biłgoraj, about 50–60 km from the state border), not the Wielkie Bagno itself. To avoid confusion, we will remove the information about the 30 km distance from the border with Ukraine and rephrase the text (L. 152–155) as follows: “Wielkie Bagno (Eng. Great Swamp) peatland is located near the town of Biłgoraj in the Solska Forest (50°31'N, 22°50'E) in south-eastern Poland, which is a large forest area covering over 1,400 km2 in the Biłgoraj Plain, stretching from the Vistula River in the west to the border with Ukraine in the east (50°48'N, 21°56'E–50°13'N, 23°26'E).”
Line 156 – I do not think this region is included in the globally important biodiversity hotspots list https://www.nature.com/articles/35002501.pdf ; please rephrase.
We acknowledge this comment and agree that our original wording was not justified. To improve clarity, we will rephrase by replacing “globally” with “regionally”.
Figure 1 – on the map we can see two peatlands highlighted – Wielkie Bagno and Rakowe, while the manuscript is focused only on Wielkie Bagno. In the text it is stated that Rakowe is another wetland located in the vicinity of Wielkie Bagno (Lines 892 and 898), whereas later on (lines 1067-1068) authors write that this is another name for Wielkie Bagno. Please clarify.
Thank you for this important comment. Historically, the name Rakowe Bagno (or Rakówka Bagno) referred to a larger area, which included not only our study site, now called Wielkie Bagno, but also extensive surrounding areas, mainly to the south, including meadows and the heavily drained Rakowe peatland (Fig. 1). The historical name Rakowe likely originates from a small river that begins in the area of the present Wielkie Bagno peatland. We agree that the information about the historical name of our study site from the late 18th century (L. 1067–1068) may cause confusion. As this information is not essential to the discussion, and to improve clarity and conciseness, we will revise L. 1067–1068 by removing: “, known in the late 18th century as Rakowe Bagno or Rakówka Bagno (Eng. Rakowe Swamp / Rakówka Swamp),”.
I also think Fig. 1 could be enlarged – the details on maps 1i-e are not well visible.
Thank you for this remark. We agree that the details on maps 1i–e are not clearly visible at the current figure size when the first part of the caption appears on the same manuscript page (L. 189–195). We will correct this accordingly by enlarging Figure 1 to the full page size. However, we must acknowledge that the final size of Figure 1 will ultimately be determined during the technical editing process, only after the manuscript is accepted.
Line 330 – please explain what methodology was used for pollen radiocarbon dating.
The pollen extract was prepared according to the procedure specified in the Oxford Long-Term Ecology Laboratory’s “Pollen preparation procedure for radiocarbon dating” protocol, based on Brown et al. (1989). The pollen was extracted from 2 cm3 of sediment. We will add these details in the Materials and methods section, including Table 1, along with the corresponding reference.
Brown, T. A., Nelson, D. E., Mathewes, R. W., Vogel, J. S., and Southon, J. R.: Radiocarbon Dating of Pollen by Accelerator Mass Spectrometry, Quaternary Res, 32, 205–212, 10.1016/0033-5894(89)90076-8, 1989.
Lines 381-384 – test construction and mixotrophs sum – it is interesting to look at functional traits of testate amoebae, however, this information is included in the Figure 11 but it is not discussed later on in the manuscript. Can you include the interpretative value of traits in the description of results and discussion?
Thank you for raising this important point. We will complete the information in both the description of results (Section 3.3.6 Hydrology reconstruction – testate amoebae data) and the Discussion section.
In our study, a decline and near disappearance of mixotrophic taxa in the second half of the 20th century can be associated with drying conditions and environmental disturbances (Marcisz et al., 2016; Zhang et al., 2020). In contrast, an increase in mixotrophic testate amoebae in the upper part of the record may indicate a return to more stable and wetter conditions (Marcisz et al., 2020; Łuców et al., 2022). We will add this information to our discussion, along with the respective missing references (Marcisz et al., 2016, 2020; Zhang et al., 2020).
Łuców, D., Küttim, M., Słowiński, M., Kołaczek, P., Karpińska-Kołaczek, M., Küttim, L., Salme, M., and Lamentowicz, M.: Searching for an ecological baseline: Long-term ecology of a post-extraction restored bog in Northern Estonia, Quatern Int, 607, 65–78, 10.1016/j.quaint.2021.08.017, 2022.
Marcisz, K., Colombaroli, D., Jassey, V. E. J., Tinner, W., Kołaczek, P., Gałka, M., Karpińska-Kołaczek, M., Słowiński, M., and Lamentowicz, M.: A novel testate amoebae trait-based approach to infer environmental disturbance in Sphagnum peatlands, Scientific Reports, 6, 33907, 10.1038/srep33907, 2016.
Marcisz, K., Jassey, V. E. J., Kosakyan, A., Krashevska, V., Lahr, D. J. G., Lara, E., Lamentowicz, Ł., Lamentowicz, M., Macumber, A., Mazei, Y., Mitchell, E. A. D., Nasser, N. A., Patterson, R. T., Roe, H. M., Singer, D., Tsyganov, A. N., and Fournier, B.: Testate Amoeba Functional Traits and Their Use in Paleoecology, Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution, Volume 8 - 2020, 10.3389/fevo.2020.575966, 2020.
Zhang, H., Amesbury, M. J., Piilo, S. R., Garneau, M., Gallego-Sala, A., and Väliranta, M. M.: Recent Changes in Peatland Testate Amoeba Functional Traits and Hydrology Within a Replicated Site Network in Northwestern Québec, Canada, Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution, Volume 8 - 2020, 10.3389/fevo.2020.00228, 2020.
Lines 393-395 – what is the potential distance of fires from the studied site? Do you have any estimates? Please add this info to the text as it is important for interpretation.
Thank you for this important remark. Macroscopic charcoal particles are generally interpreted as a proxy for local fires, located within a distance of a few hundred meters (or as close as 1 m) from the sampling point (e.g., Ohlson and Tryterud, 2000; Higuera et al., 2005; Tinner et al., 2006; Conedera et al., 2009). However, they may also reflect a longer-distance, regional fire signal due to the complex patterns of charcoal deposition and transport, influenced by fuel type, fire intensity and size, weather, etc. (e.g., Tinner et al., 2006; Peters and Higuera, 2007; Oris et al., 2014; Vachula et al., 2023). For clarity, we will add this information to the text.
Conedera, M., Tinner, W., Neff, C., Meurer, M., Dickens, A. F., and Krebs, P.: Reconstructing past fire regimes: methods, applications, and relevance to fire management and conservation, Quaternary Sci Rev, 28, 555–576, 10.1016/j.quascirev.2008.11.005, 2009.
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Ohlson, M. and Tryterud, E.: Interpretation of the charcoal record in forest soils: forest fires and their production and deposition of macroscopic charcoal, Holocene, 10, 519-525, 10.1191/095968300667442551, 2000.
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Peters, M. E. and Higuera, P. E.: Quantifying the source area of macroscopic charcoal with a particle dispersal model, Quaternary Res, 67, 304–310, 10.1016/j.yqres.2006.10.004, 2007.
Tinner, W., Hofstetter, S., Zeugin, F., Conedera, M., Wohlgemuth, T., Zimmermann, L., and Zweifel, R.: Long-distance transport of macroscopic charcoal by an intensive crown fire in the Swiss Alps - implications for fire history reconstruction, The Holocene, 16, 287–292, 10.1191/0959683606hl925rr, 2006.
Vachula, R. S. and Rehn, E.: Modeled dispersal patterns for wood and grass charcoal are different: Implications for paleofire reconstruction, The Holocene, 33, 159–166, 10.1177/09596836221131708, 2023.
Figure 2 – I would suggest changing the figure a bit – put first data and later data resolution, than the graph.
Thank you for your comment. As the reading direction is from left to right, placing “Data” in the leftmost panel is indeed a very good idea, following the logic from general to detail. When designing the figure, we placed the graph in the centre to highlight the importance of the information it presents, namely the different time periods covered and the continuity versus discontinuity of the data. In addition, this design maintains graphical balance between the central graph and the two text panels symmetrically positioned on either side. Therefore, we prefer to keep our original concept. We will modify the figure by switching the text panels – “Data” in the left panel and “Data resolution” in the right panel.
Chapter 3.1.1 – I do not understand why the comparison of meteorological data from two stations is important here? Why not use the data form a nearer located station rather than from two stations?
As explained in the Materials and methods section (2.2 Climate data, L. 246–271), we used meteorological data from two stations for the following reasons: (i) to assess long-term climate fluctuations in the region and long-term climate-tree growth relationships at the study site over the longest possible period covered by instrumental data (>200 years, meteorological station in Kraków, L. 247–255); and (ii) to verify the representativeness of this long-term data set (Kraków) for our study area by comparing it with a substantially shorter data set from the nearest weather station to our study site (>60 years, meteorological station in Tomaszów Lubelski, L. 255–267). We believe the information provided in the Materials and methods section (2.2 Climate data, L. 246–271) explains the above clearly. Therefore, we prefer not to expand this section. As a compromise, we propose adding “over the longest possible period covered by instrumental data available” in the first sentence of the section (L. 247–250) and correcting it as follows: “To assess long-term climate fluctuations in the region and long-term climate-tree growth relationships at the study site over the longest possible period covered by instrumental data available, the average monthly, seasonal and annual values of air temperature (1792–2020) and atmospheric precipitation (1811–2020) from a meteorological station of the Department of Climatology of the Jagiellonian University in Kraków were used.”
Figures 3, 5 and 6 – are all these needed in the main body of the text? Maybe some can be moved to supplement as there is a lot of figures in the manuscript already.
Thank you for this comment. We agree that the number of figures in the manuscript is high. However, Figures 3, 5, and 6 present a substantial share of our key results, achieved through analyses of the meteorological and tree ring data. As this is an interdisciplinary study aiming to combine different archives and data types, maintaining a balance in presenting the results was our primary goal. Removing the figures listed above would distort this balance by overrepresenting the illustration of the palaeoecological results. Therefore, we prefer to keep Figures 3, 5, and 6 in the main body of the text and leave the final decision to the Associate Editor.
Lines 458-459 – can you mark these years on Fig. 4? It will be helpful to see it presented together with chronology.
Thank you for your comment. We aimed to correct Figure 4 accordingly; however, this appeared untenable for several reasons, explained below.
During the analysis of our tree ring data, we determined pointer years using various methods such as normalisation in a moving window (Cropper, Neuwirth), Relative Growth Change, Interval Trend, z-transformation, bias-adjusted Standardised Growth Change (for two periods: 1777–2020 and 1831–2020) (van der Maaten-Theunissen et al., 2015, 2021; Buras et al., 2020, 2022), and the list method (Yamaguchi, 1991). As is commonly the case (Jetschke et al., 2019, 2023), different methods yielded inconsistent results in the pointer year analysis (Fig. SF1, provided in the attached pdf). Because this analysis was not crucial to the main questions addressed in our study, already broad and rich in the results presented and discussed, we decided not to include it in the manuscript.
Instead, we listed in the text only those pointer years also identified in other studies from the region (Cedro and Lamentowicz, 2008; Dauškane et al., 2011; Edvardsson et al., 2015, 2019), or in our unpublished data from the Białowieża Forest peatland sites (L. 456–459), as we considered this relevant for some potential readers as an indication of regional growth synchrony of Scots pine in peatlands.
We followed your suggestion and prepared a revised version of Figure 4, showing the pointer years listed in the text in L. 458–459 (Fig. SF2, provided in the attached pdf). However, we are not fully satisfied with the result, as it does not depict all pointer years of our site chronology, which we determined using different methods (Fig. SF1, provided in the attached pdf). Therefore, for clarity and conciseness, we prefer to keep both Figure 4 and our original text referring to pointer years (L. 456–459) unchanged.
Buras, A., Rammig, A., and Zang, C. S.: A novel approach for the identification of pointer years, Dendrochronologia, 63, 125746, 10.1016/j.dendro.2020.125746, 2020.
Buras, A., Ovenden, T., Rammig, A., and Zang, C. S.: Refining the standardized growth change method for pointer year detection: Accounting for statistical bias and estimating the deflection period, Dendrochronologia, 74, 125964, 10.1016/j.dendro.2022.125964, 2022.
Cedro, A. and Lamentowicz, M.: The last hundred years' dendroecology of Scots pine (Pinus sylvestris L.) on a Baltic bog in Northern Poland: Human impact and hydrological changes, Baltic Forestry, 14, 26–33, 2008.
Dauškane, I., Brūmelis, G., and Elferts, D.: Effect of climate on extreme radial growth of Scots pine growing on bogs in Latvia, Estonian Journal of Ecology, 60, 236–248, 10.3176/eco.2011.3.06, 2011.
Edvardsson, J., Rimkus, E., Corona, C., Šimanauskienė, R., Kažys, J., and Stoffel, M.: Exploring the impact of regional climate and local hydrology on Pinus sylvestris L. growth variability – A comparison between pine populations growing on peat soils and mineral soils in Lithuania, Plant and Soil, 392, 345-356, 10.1007/s11104-015-2466-9, 2015.
Edvardsson, J., Baužienė, I., Lamentowicz, M., Šimanauskienė, R., Tamkevičiūtė, M., Taminskas, J., Linkevičienė, R., Skuratovič, Ž., Corona, C., and Stoffel, M.: A multi-proxy reconstruction of moisture dynamics in a peatland ecosystem: A case study from Čepkeliai, Lithuania, Ecol. Indic., 106, 105484, 10.1016/j.ecolind.2019.105484, 2019.
Jetschke, G., van der Maaten, E., and van der Maaten-Theunissen, M.: Towards the extremes: A critical analysis of pointer year detection methods, Dendrochronologia, 53, 55-62, 10.1016/j.dendro.2018.11.004, 2019.
Jetschke, G., van der Maaten, E., and van der Maaten-Theunissen, M.: Pointer years revisited: Does one method fit all? A clarifying discussion, Dendrochronologia, 78, 126064, 10.1016/j.dendro.2023.126064, 2023.
van der Maaten-Theunissen, M., van der Maaten, E., and Bouriaud, O.: pointRes: an R package to analyze pointer years and components of resilience, Dendrochronologia, 35, 34–38, 10.1016/j.dendro.2015.05.006, 2015.
van der Maaten-Theunissen, M., Trouillier, M., Schwarz, J., Skiadaresis, G., Thurm, E. A., and van der Maaten, E.: pointRes 2.0: New functions to describe tree resilience, Dendrochronologia, 70, 125899, 10.1016/j.dendro.2021.125899, 2021.
Yamaguchi, D. K.: A Simple Method for Cross-Dating Increment Cores from Living Trees, Canadian Journal of Forest Research, 21, 414–416, 10.1139/X91-053, 1991.
Figures 8, 9 and 11 – the text is too small, please enlarge the font.
We will do our best to improve the readability of Figures 8, 9 and 11.
The hiatus – is it really a hiatus? Charcoal is present above the boundary, not at the boundary level or below. Maybe it is an effect of decrease in peat accumulation rates or high decomposition rates at that time? Why was charcoal not used for dating? As the main line of the interpretation is that the hiatus is an effect of fire, dating charcoal would be a better approach. As charcoal counts are not very high in the hiatus horizon, the amount of charcoal is increasing several layers above – maybe it would be worth considering other line of interpretation, e.g., not presence of the hiatus, but a decrease in peat accumulation due to dry conditions in the peatland? This interpretation could be supported by testate amoeba data and the lack of tests below the transition zone.
Thank you for this comment. We agree that the charcoal distribution alone (with higher values above the boundary) is not sufficient to argue for a fire-driven depositional break. However, we would like to retain the interpretation of a hiatus in peat accumulation (i.e., a period of strongly reduced or absent net accumulation, potentially including oxidation/loss of previously formed peat), because this is best supported by our chronological evidence.
Specifically, the two radiocarbon ages that bracket the transition indicate an interval of ~1,400 years with no preserved accumulation between the underlying, highly decomposed massive peat and the onset of the overlying Sphagnum peat. In our age–depth framework this appears as an abrupt step rather than a gradual change in accumulation rate, which is more consistent with a stratigraphic gap (non-deposition and/or loss of material) than with simply slower peat growth. We therefore interpret the boundary as a real interruption in net peat accumulation, followed by a marked qualitative shift to Sphagnum-dominated peat formation beginning around c. 1830.
At the same time, we acknowledge that an alternative (and not mutually exclusive) explanation is that peat originally deposited between the two dated horizons was subsequently degraded and lost (e.g., through oxidation/decomposition during lowered water tables), producing an apparent gap in the preserved stratigraphy.
In this context, the charcoal peak occurring above the boundary can be understood as reflecting burning during or after the re-initiation of peat accumulation, rather than at the exact boundary itself. This is also consistent with the independent tree ring evidence of a fire scar (and post-fire growth reaction) dated to 1830 and the local pine regeneration signal, which together suggest a disturbance close to the time when Sphagnum peat accumulation started (and landscape openness increased). We will revise the text to make clear that the hiatus interpretation is primarily based on the radiocarbon bracketing (the missing time interval) and the abrupt shift in peat type, while charcoal is treated as supporting contextual evidence for disturbance timing rather than the sole basis for identifying the hiatus.
Regarding why charcoal was not used for dating: we intentionally focused on dating the peat immediately below and above the boundary to constrain the end of the former depositional state and the onset of the new Sphagnum accumulation regime. Dating charcoal from around the transition would mainly provide the age of the burned wood (with potential inbuilt age and/or reworking), and would not necessarily constrain either the duration of the accumulation break or the timing of the ecosystem shift with the same reliability. For clarity, we will explain this rationale in the revised manuscript.
Finally, we agree that dry conditions and enhanced decomposition likely contributed to the accumulation interruption. To address this, we will strengthen the linkage to the proxy evidence (including the testate amoeba pattern and preservation below the transition) as consistent with lowered effective moisture and increased oxidation during the interval of missing or strongly reduced accumulation in our interpretation.
Line 674 – was there now peat below the sampled core? Did authors reach the bottom of the entire peat deposit in this sampling location?
Thank you for this comment. As shown in Figure 7, we reached the bottom of the entire peat deposit at our sampling location, confirming a relatively thin (50 cm) peat layer. For clarity, we will add this information to the Materials and methods section (2.4.1 Core collection, lithology, chronology and numerical analysis) as follows: “In June of 2022, a peat core with a diameter of 5 cm and a length of 50 cm was collected with an Instorf corer, reaching the bottom of the peat deposit at the sampling point (Fig. 7).”
My main suggestion for changes is to substantially shorten the Discussion, especially sections 4.1 and 4.2. Now the Discussion covers 15 full pages, which is too long. I checked word count for this section and it is over 12 000 words – this sum makes a word limit for the entire manuscript in most of the palaeoecological journal (in fact, most journals have word limit for submissions between 8 000 and 12 000 words). Also, there are long sections stretching several pages with no sub-sections or highlights of the main message. Because of that it is hard to stay focused while reading this text. I suggest moving some of the text to supplement (less vital information that is not essential for data interpretation), and shorten the remaining text. Especially the amount of historical data included in the interpretation should be shortened: 1st of all, it is too overwhelming and it is hard to focus on the text with so much data in it; 2nd of all – Biogeosciences journal is not a historical journal so in its current form the discussion is not fully in line with journal’s scope. E.g.:
- lines 710-855 – these are 3.5 pages of results description with lots of historical detail. In my opinion most of this text with detailed historical context should be moved to the supplement and this chapter should be max 1.5 page long. The information is interesting, but it does not really improve the interpretation. If some readers will be interested in historical detail, then they can look it up in the supplement. Otherwise, the text is suited more to historical journal and not palaeoecological one.
- Chapter 4.1.3 is also very long – 4.5 pages. It is hard to focus on reading as there is a lot of information that is not vital for the interpretation. Detailed descriptions can be moved to a supplement (e.g., meticulous information about the estate ownership and which administrative regions it belonged to – this is not crucial to interpret palaeodata) and only the most important events should be presented in the main manuscript.
- Chapter 4.2 – again, too much and too detailed historical data description.
Thank you for raising this point. We are fully aware that the Discussion section is very long. The main reason for this is that we did not follow the commonly used approach in paleoecological studies of presenting the paleoecological results together with their interpretation (as a “Results and interpretation” section or subsection; e.g., Marcisz et al., 2015; Bąk et al., 2024). Instead, we presented these results without interpretation in the Results section (3.3 Paleoecology, L. 509–645) and included their interpretation in the Discussion section.
Furthermore, our primary goal in designing the discussion was to address all our proxies and data collectively by combining different disciplines and data types, which were presented separately in earlier sections of the manuscript (Materials and methods, Results), and to use them together for an interdisciplinary interpretation following our multi-proxy approach, integrating human and natural archives. Combining qualitative and quantitative data is challenging, especially when dealing with different spatial and temporal data resolutions, potential biases, and data formats. We addressed this in our Discussion (4.4 Challenges and opportunities in palaeoecological research: an interdisciplinary approach). Historical data, often qualitative and descriptive, are particularly challenging to integrate with natural environmental proxies. However, in interdisciplinary studies, they offer valuable context, which cannot always be condensed without losing understanding for a broad audience, not just historians.
Although “Biogeosciences” can certainly be classified as a paleoecological journal, it has a history of publishing interdisciplinary studies (e.g., Bąk et al. 2024). In addition, it invites research on “all aspects of the interactions between the biological, chemical, and physical processes in terrestrial or extraterrestrial life with the geosphere, hydrosphere, and atmosphere”, and its objective is to “cut across the boundaries of established sciences and achieve an interdisciplinary view of these interactions”, as stated in the the journal’s aim and scope. Anthropogenic impact is an essential part of “ecosystem functioning” and “the interactions between the biological, chemical, and physical processes in terrestrial life with the geosphere, hydrosphere, and atmosphere” (which are aspects and fields covered by the journal), especially considering landscape-scale drainage activities, deforestation and afforestation, and global climate change (e.g., Allen and Chapman, 2001; Bąk et al., 2024). Therefore, we find the assessment of our discussion in its current form as “not fully in line with journal’s scope” unjustified. Notably, “Biogeosciences” imposes no length restrictions on research articles that would require substantial text reduction or selection of another journal.
We consider the suggestion to move some of the text from our discussion to the supplement suboptimal, as it would be impractical for readers, forcing them to jump between the main article and the supplement to read and reflect on the discussion in full.
While we acknowledge the manuscript’s length, the preprint has already attracted significant interest from the scientific community, with over 2,000 views and 170 downloads since September 2025. We believe this high level of engagement indicates that the audience values the depth and interdisciplinary nature of the discussion. We consider it essential to maintain this level of detail to address the complexities of the study adequately. However, we will critically review the entire Discussion section and make every effort to ensure the writing remains as concise as possible. We will focus on avoiding repetition and removing detailed information not crucial to the core message of our study. Following the journal’s flexible length policy, we leave the final decision on the need for substantial text reduction to the Associate Editor.
Allen, A. and Chapman, D.: Impacts of afforestation on groundwater resources and quality, Hydrogeology Journal, 9, 390–400, 10.1007/s100400100148, 2001.
Bąk, M., Lamentowicz, M., Kołaczek, P., Wochal, D., Jakubowicz, M., Andrews, L., and Marcisz, K.: Twentieth-century ecological disasters in central European monoculture pine plantations led to critical transitions in peatlands, Biogeosciences, 22, 3843–3866, 10.5194/bg-22-3843-2025, 2025.
Bąk, M., Lamentowicz, M., Kołaczek, P., Wochal, D., Matulewski, P., Kopeć, D., Wietecha, M., Jaster, D., and Marcisz, K.: Assessing the impact of forest management and climate on a peatland under Scots pine monoculture using a multidisciplinary approach, Biogeosciences, 21, 5143–5172, 10.5194/bg-21-5143-2024, 2024.
Marcisz, K., Tinner, W., Colombaroli, D., Kołaczek, P., Słowiński, M., Fiałkiewicz-Kozieł, B., Łokas, E., and Lamentowicz, M.: Long-term hydrological dynamics and fire history over the last 2000 years in CE Europe reconstructed from a high-resolution peat archive, Quaternary Sci Rev, 112, 138–152, 10.1016/j.quascirev.2015.01.019, 2015.
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This manuscript presents an interdisciplinary study of long-term peatland ecosystem transformation in southeastern Poland. The authors combine palaeoecological, dendrochronological, and historical data to reconstruct how natural and anthropogenic processes interacted over the last centuries. The approach is well thought out, the dataset is rich, and the interpretations are largely consistent with current understanding of temperate peatland development. The integration of human and natural archives is particularly valuable, as it allows a multi-perspective view of environmental change. The manuscript is well structured and clearly written, with detailed figures and sound methodological descriptions. I find the study suitable for publication after minor/moderate revision, mainly to improve clarity, consistency in terminology, and precision in some geological and interpretative aspects. Further I provide more specific comments on this mater and these are formulated based on reading the manuscript and how I understood authors’ interpretations.
Specific comments
P1, line 28-52: The abstract is informative, but some repetition could be reduced (e.g., multi-proxy reconstruction, biotic and abiotic factors etc). A brief final sentence highlighting implications for restoration or conservation would strengthen the abstract’s applied relevance.
Introduction
p.3, line 120-134: The link between human impacts and the interdisciplinary approach could be made more explicit “to address these long-term human-environment interactions, we combine palaeoecological, dendrochronological, and historical archives …”
Materials and Methods
p.10-12:
(1) the terminology describing peat decomposition should follow common usage. My suggestion is to use ”highly decomposed” instead of “heavily decomposed”, and “poorly decomposed” instead of “weakly decomposed”. Please consider this throughout the manuscript.
(2) Clarify the reason for selecting a 50 cm peat core (e.g., focus on recent centuries or sampling limitations).
p.11: radiocarbon dating including Table 1: The table indicates “pollen (extracted)” samples for 14C. Please specify how pollen was extracted for dating (chemical isolation, manual picking etc) and how much material was used. These details are important for assessing the reliability of pollen-based radiocarbon ages.
p.11, section 2.4.2.: The methods mention using Lycopodium tablets to estimate palynomorph concentrations, yet no pollen concentration results are reported later. If these were not used, please clarify and rephrase the methodology accordingly. If data exist, consider presenting absolute pollen concentrations for pine and alder, as these could potentially provide additional insights into vegetation productivity changes.
Possible term improvement: in figure captions and text, replace “charcoal grains” with “charcoal particles”. Also, use “charcoal” in singular form instead of “charcoals” (current version in some pages and figures).
Results
p.18, line 511-518: The authors interpret a hiatus at ~37 cm based on a lithological change and supposed charcoal enrichment. However, the macroscopic charcoal record (Fig. 8) shows low charcoal concentration at this depth, with the main peak around 18 cm. This does not support the statement about high charcoal content at 37 cm.
Considering both the lithological change and the age-detph model, this interval likely reflects a shift in sedimentation and decomposition processes rather than a true hiatus. The most probable explanation is a period of reduced accumulation under drier conditions, consistent with the climate context described in Sectiont 4.1.2. Such transitions are typical in peatlands when moisture regimes change from drier to wetter phases. My suggestion is to rewrite this part to describe it as a “transition in sedimentation regime” rather than a depositional hiatus.
Discussion
Throughout the manuscript, the transition from Alnus-dominated den to Pinus-dominated bog is strongly attributed to human activity. While these drivers may have played an important role, the evidence presented also suggests that natural hydroclimatic factors and autogenic peatland processes could have contributed significantly to this transformation. For instance, the transition coincides with a period of dry climatic conditions (Section 4.1.2) and with signs of increased peat decomposition and reduced peat accumulation rate, which could result from lower effective moisture and gradual peat surface elevation. Such processes are common in fen-bog succession even without direct anthropogenic disturbance. I would recommend acknowledging also that observed vegetation shift likely reflects a combination of natural climatic variability and human influence, rather than being entirely human-driven phenomena. This would make the discussion more balanced and ecologically realistic. In addition, then I would suggest modifying the title: “From Alnus to Pinus: natural and human drivers of temperate peatland transformation”.
Section 4.1.2. (Transition period): The authors themselves note that this interval corresponds to dry climatic conditions, which supports the interpretation of enhanced decomposition and slower accumulation rather than a hiatus. Please make this link more explicit in the text.
In addition, the observation that peat accumulation was low during the Alnus carr stage is fully consistent with fen hydrology, where fluctuating water tables lead to variable aeration and high decomposition of biomass. Similar low fen peat accumulation rates and shifts in sedimentation rates and peatland types have been recorded also in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland. Consider explicitly mentioning this as a natural fen characteristic rather than a sign of disturbance.
Line 778-785: Above other factors, authors list also peat mining. Please clarify whether peat extraction actually occurred at the study site. Considering thin layer of peat at sampling site, it seems that peat mining probably was not economically feasible. If peat mining (and other mentioned factors within these lines) was not done at the study site, please revise text and include only relevant factors such as drainage, forest management, fire, and natural hydroclimatic variability.
Figures and table
Overall, figures are nice and well contribute the main text. One possible suggestion, if possible, please enlarge slightly text in Figs. 5-6 for readability.
Ensure figure captions reflect correct terminology (e.g., charcoal particles).
Overall recommendation
This is a high-quality, well-integrated study that makes a valuable contribution to understanding natural, human and climatic influences on temperate peatlands. With the above clarifications (minor/moderate revision) the manuscript could be acceptable for publication.
Prof. Normunds Stivrins