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Accounting for spatiotemporally correlated errors in wind speed for remote surveys of methane emissions
Abstract. Spatiotemporally correlated errors in wind speeds estimated via numerical weather prediction (NWP) models – where estimated wind speeds and associated uncertainties at similar times or at nearby sites are likely to be correlated – are an important, but to date neglected, determinant of overall uncertainties in remote surveys of emissions in the oil and gas and other sectors. In this work, we develop a methodology to model such errors using publicly available, anemometer-measured wind speeds at weather stations within a region of interest. The method is parsed into two: (1) creation of a region-averaged wind speed error model to provide the probability of the true wind speed given an NWP model-estimated wind speed while ignoring autocorrelation, and (2) development of a Gaussian copula model for the region of interest (ROI) to capture spatiotemporal autocorrelation. The combined model for total wind uncertainty, including spatiotemporally autocorrelated errors, is demonstrated using the oil and gas-producing region of northeastern British Columbia, Canada as a case study. We also provide additional combined models for the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan, the U.S. state of North Dakota, and Colombia. Finally, we share a simple python code to interface with these models and to simplify application by others. The combined models show varying correlations in wind speed errors, which are attributable to the variability of terrain in the ROIs and the relative accuracy of different NWP models. Results further reveal how temporal correlations and hence uncertainties in aggregated emissions can be minimized through remote survey design, where waiting at least two days before revisiting a site and phase shifting re-surveys by approximately six hours can avoid both near-field and diurnal patterns in temporal autocorrelation.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3924', Anonymous Referee #1, 21 Nov 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3924', Anonymous Referee #2, 04 Dec 2025
In this manuscript, Conrad and Johnson discuss the importance of wind speed uncertainties when estimating methane emissions using remote sensing observations. The study is strongly focused on theory and technical elements of model development. They demonstrate the applicability of a combined model for wind uncertainties for a testcase in Canada. They also suggest a new experimental design to reduce temporal autocorrelation effects. The topic is of great importance as this source of uncertainty is usually neglected in remote sensing studies. The text is well written und the manuscript has a clear and easy to follow structure. However, given the focus of the manuscript on model design it might be better suited for another EGU journal, namely, Geoscientific Model Development.
Nevertheless, the study also overlaps with the scope of AMT.
There are only some minor comments that should be addressed before publication.
Page 1, line 27: Would you consider the level of uncertainty similar for aircraft and satellite studies or should they be considered differently? Especially the fact that airborne surveys often have on-board wind data and are not restricted to clear-sky day bias could suggest that they might not experience the same limitations.
Page 2, line 17: Why is the analysis limited to May to October? Satellites are observing and reporting observations in all seasons. Are you confident there is no seasonal bias in the NWP performance?
Page 7, line 14-15: The two references cited here: Sklar 1959 and Nelsen 2006 are not easily accessible or behind a paywall. So, please provide more details on Copulas here or provide additional references that discuss Copulas in more detail.
Page 9, line 12: More details on DECLUS would be helpful here.
Page 9 line 19: If there is a myriad of literature, why do you only provide a single reference, which is, again, behind a paywall.
Page 12: Section 2.3. highlights that this study is really about the model itself and maybe better suited for Geoscientific Model Development. Nevertheless, it is a good example for more detailed analysis of correlated uncertainties affecting many applications.
Page 19, line 24: The point about sun-synchronous satellites is crucial and it might be good to highlight that nearly all current satellites used for methane emission monitoring are sun-synchronous.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-3924-RC2 -
RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3924', Anonymous Referee #3, 17 Dec 2025
This manuscript provides a rigorous probabilistic modeling study of numerical weather prediction (NWP) 10-m winds' error relative to independent ground-based wind speed measurements. A region-average wind error model is fitted as a Weibull distribution. Then, the errors are modeled marginally in space and time and combined using Gaussian coupla and spatiotemoral semivariograms. It seems technically sound and well written, with the following points to consider for further improvements.
A main issue is that the connection between the core analysis/results of this work and the scope of AMT (specifically remote sensing of methane point source emissions) is relatively weak. It is really section 3.5 only. It may be helpful to provide more context on how this work fits in the methane quantification pipeline. Specifically, the 10-m wind that this study tries to model, as the ground truth, is measurement at (usually) 10 min interval. The 10-m wind->effective wind->methane emission pipeline is calibrated all in an LES model in Varon 2018. To what extent is the "ground-truth" wind speed relevant, if the wind-emission relationship is calibrated by a model? This study tackles the error from NWP to ground-measured 10 m wind, and it would be nice to have some discussion on the mapping from measured wind to effective wind and then to emissions. It almost makes me feel that targeting measured wind is a detour, and one should map NWP wind to LES wind, or whatever wind that calibrates the wind-emission relationship.
Fittings of the regional wind error model and the semivariograms are important for this work, so it is recommended to include details on how those fitting algorithms, specially the numerous constraints in fitting parameters, are implemented.
Technical comments:
Eq. 8: please double check as π seems to be reserved for a PDF, and dividing a PDF by u~ is unlikely to give another PDF.
Page 9, lines 10-11: it is recommended to provide the formula of AIC as the objective function.
Page 10, line 1: should that be the "... the variance of the difference of the zi at these positions"?
Page 11, lines 9-10: double check the location and span of bins. Should that be 0-50 km and 25-75 km?
Page 11, lines 24-25: H seems to be reserved for joint CDF. Consider another font/symbol for Heavyside step function.
Page 11, lines 26: please confirm what γk0(b;b) is, and why it should be 0.95.
Page 12, lines 1-2: fixing b3 to 0 contradicts the constraint (b3>b2>b1>=0) in the previous page. Please elaborate.
Page 12, lines 17-18: close the parenthesis.
Page 21, line 5: should the RMS uncertainty be read as the "distance" of the upper and lower error bars?
Section 4.1: it reads a bit strange to have such a dominant subsection in conclusion section. Consider making it a dedicated section preceding the conclusion.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-3924-RC3
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Supplemental Code and Derived Models for "Accounting for spatiotemporally correlated errors in wind speed for remote surveys of methane emissions" Bradley M. Conrad https://doi.org/10.5683/SP3/PMLX4X
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In their work Conrad and Johnson handle the importance of error correlation in wind speed data when deriving Methane emissions from measured concentrations. An algorithm to quantify spatiotemporal auto-correlation is described, giving guidelines on how to best perform measurement campaigns in certain regions of interest. While this study mainly focuses on the methane emission example, the core method is applicable for any method that relies on model wind data, further underscoring the scientific significance of this work. Overall, the presentation quality of this study is excellent. In the following some minor revisions and technical corrections are suggested that mainly focus on improving the understand-ability of the study.
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