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Interplay of North Atlantic Freshening and Deep Convection During the Last Deglaciation Constrained by Iberian Speleothems
Abstract. The last deglaciation featured abrupt climate shifts driven by interactions among Earth system components, notably retreating ice sheets and meltwater input. While globally detected, the magnitude, timing, and sequence of North Atlantic source events remain uncertain. We present a Uranium-Thorium-dated stalagmite from northwestern Iberia spanning 24–12 ka BP, capturing both the impact of North Atlantic meltwater on surface ocean chemistry and regional air temperature changes. Our record reveals primarily gradual meltwater inflow during the Last Glacial Maximum and early deglaciation (about 20.8–18.2 ka BP), followed by abrupt increases during Heinrich Stadial 1. An abrupt cooling lags the first meltwater pulse by ca. 850 years, unlike later pulses. This evolving relationship between meltwater and cooling provides new constraints on the changing sensitivity of deep Atlantic convection to meltwater input throughout the deglaciation.
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The manuscript by Endres et al. presents a high-resolution, Th/U-dated speleothem record from northwestern Iberia spanning 24-12 ka BP. The analyzed proxies are used to reconstruct North Atlantic surface ocean freshening (δ18O values) and regional temperature changes (δ13C) during the last deglaciation. The authors identify major freshening events during Heinrich Stadial 1, and claim that the initial cooling response lagged the first meltwater pulse by approximately 850 years, suggesting evolving AMOC sensitivity to freshwater forcing. Overall, the study provides interesting new constraints on the temporal relationship between ice sheet meltwater discharge and Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation strength. The manuscript is overall well-written and the analytical methods are sound. Also the interpretation of the proxies is based on an intensive work of the research group in that area. However, I have some comments on the description of statistical aspects including propagation of uncertainties as well as the discussion of the regional relevance of the results. Overall, the line of arguments could benefit from restructuring the discussion by re-integrating parts of the extended appendices back into the main text. It is a bit exhausting to repeatedly having to switch back and forth between main text and appendix, also given that the main text is not so long.
Other comments:
Minor comments along the text:
L65 Please provide more support that Sr/Mg is indeed only growth rate and not related to sea spray
Figure 2 What do the open and filled symbold mean? What is the correlation between Sr/Mg and growth rate?
L171 does the number 382 years correspond to the length of the transition? Please indictae the timing and uncertainties in the Figure, it is hard to see for some of the breakpoints where they are exactly identified.
L189 Also here, I am not sure which “smaller transient event” is meant. Possibly a second plot that zooms only into the most interesting section of the record would be helpful?
Figure 3 please include time markers of identified events in Figure 3. I also cannot see the temperature changes in d13C as mentioned in the text... The relevance of the maps in the uppermost panel are unclear to me.
L225 I cannot see a “significant cooling” in d13C at that time in Figure 3, I think the y-axis not large enough to really see this drop? A clear marker would be also helpful.
L226 what is the uncertainty of the 850 years?
L231 Again, unsure to which specific feature this refers to
L245 I think its vice versa? First the meltwater, then 850 years later the temperature drop?
L276 The “extended discussion” only discusses two other records from Iberia and the Mediterranean, and no ice core records.
L278 Before jumping to the EASM I would have expected a more comprehensive comparison to other records that are more closer to the North Atlantic realm. Is there a specific reason why this is missing?
L290 Any suggestions which “atmospheric patterns”? A more comprehensive discussion could elucidate this possibly?
L292 This is also another reason why records from that region would be worth to compare with!
L299 It would be interesting to see if the American records are better to compare with? Studies have suggested a close link to AMOC and NA temperatures - your record could provide the possibility to test this (compare eg Travis Taylor et al., 2025,Warken et al., 2020...)
L301 what is the uncertainty of the ice record here?
L402 Heading does not fit to content, its only one record also from Iberia discussed
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