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Reconciling Satellite–Model Discrepancies in Aerosol–Cloud Interactions Using Near-LES Simulations of Marine Boundary Layer Clouds
Abstract. Aerosol–cloud interactions (ACI) remain the largest source of uncertainty in estimates of anthropogenic radiative forcing, largely due to inconsistent cloud liquid water path (LWP) responses to aerosol perturbations between observations and models. To reconcile this discrepancy, we conducted a series of simulations at near large-eddy scale (~200 m) driven by realistic meteorology over the Eastern North Atlantic, and evaluated LWP susceptibility, precipitation processes, and boundary layer thermodynamics using satellite and ground-based observations from the Atmospheric Radiation Measurement program.
Simulated LWP responses show strong dependence on cloud state. Non-precipitating thin clouds exhibit a modest LWP decrease (mean susceptibility = −0.13) due to enhanced turbulent mixing and evaporation. In contrast, non-precipitating thick clouds show the largest model–observation mismatch, with simulated LWP susceptibilities significantly more positive than observed (+0.32 vs. −0.69). This discrepancy stems from excessive precipitation linked to underestimated entrainment, overactive accretion, and overly broad drop size distributions in polluted clouds. While our high-resolution setup avoids the excessive drizzling common in coarse models and captures key regime transitions, these biases persist—highlighting the need for improved representation of cloud-top processes, precipitation, and aerosol effects in numerical models, which cannot be fully resolved by increasing model resolution alone.
Furthermore, misrepresented moisture inversions in reanalysis, which is used for the model initial and boundary conditions, introduce a moist bias in cloud-top relative humidity, amplifying positive LWP susceptibility. Our results also suggest that large negative cloud droplet number– LWP relationships in observations may reflect internal cloud processes rather than true ACI effects.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3465', Anonymous Referee #1, 21 Aug 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Shaoyue Qiu, 19 Nov 2025
Dear Editor and Reviewer,
Thank you very much for the constructive and thoughtful comments on our manuscript. We have carefully addressed all reviewer comments and revised the paper accordingly.
Attached please find our detailed response letter, in which we provide a point-by-point reply to each comment. The original reviewer comments are shown in blue italic font, and our responses are provided in black font. For clarity, all changes made in the manuscript are quoted in the response letter and referenced by line numbers corresponding to the tracked-changes version of the revised manuscript.
We sincerely appreciate the reviewers’ time and effort in helping us improve the quality and clarity of our work. Please feel free to contact us if any additional information is needed.
Best regards,
Shaoyue Qiu
(on behalf of all co-authors)
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Shaoyue Qiu, 19 Nov 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3465', Anonymous Referee #2, 03 Sep 2025
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Shaoyue Qiu, 19 Nov 2025
Dear Editor and Reviewer,
Thank you very much for the constructive and thoughtful comments on our manuscript. We have carefully addressed all reviewer comments and revised the paper accordingly.
Attached please find our detailed response letter, in which we provide a point-by-point reply to each comment. The original reviewer comments are shown in blue italic font, and our responses are provided in black font. For clarity, all changes made in the manuscript are quoted in the response letter and referenced by line numbers corresponding to the tracked-changes version of the revised manuscript.
We sincerely appreciate the reviewers’ time and effort in helping us improve the quality and clarity of our work. Please feel free to contact us if any additional information is needed.
Best regards,
Shaoyue Qiu
(on behalf of all co-authors)
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Shaoyue Qiu, 19 Nov 2025
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Publisher’s note: this comment was edited on 26 August 2025. The following text is not identical to the original comment, but the adjustments were minor without effect on the scientific meaning.
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