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Seasonal cycles of the carbon export flux in the ocean: Insights from the SISSOMA mechanistic model
Abstract. This study aims to investigate the seasonal dynamics of carbon export flux in the ocean using the SISSOMA modeling framework. SISSOMA uses a 2-dimensional state space (size and excess density) to follow the fate of aggregates in the mixed layer which are transformed through three main processes, e.g., aggregation, fragmentation, and remineralization, until they eventually sink out of the surface ocean. The model tracks aggregate size, mass, and porosity which allows for a direct estimate of aggregate sinking speed through a Reynolds number modified Stokes' law. First, a simple seasonal cycle with a single peak of POM production is presented, which provides a solid basis to understand the model's dynamics and enables us to perform sensitivity analyses on important parameters. The effect of increased stratification on a reconstructed ecosystem in the north Atlantic is then presented and discussed. Overall, our results showcase the nonlinear relationship between the production of primary particles and the export of aggregates out of the mixed layer and unveil key mechanics of the three transformative processes. Moreover, it has been shown that remineralization rates, stickiness, and the size/ excess density characteristics of the primary particles all affect in various ways the intensity, seasonal cycle, and the resulted size spectrum of the aggregate community. Finally, our results indicate the crucial role that turbulence plays in both the timing and the magnitude of the carbon export flux which might affect not only the potential of the system to remove carbon out of the mixed layer but also have a direct impact on the organisms inhabiting the mesopelagic layer which rely on the sinking particles to cover their energetic needs.
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CEC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2526', Juan Antonio Añel, 25 Jul 2025
Dear authors,
After checking the code of your model, I have seen that it is implemented using the M language. However, i have not found in your manuscript information about the interpreter used to run such code. This information is important to ensure the replicability of your work. Therefore, please, clarify what interpreter you use to run your code (for example, GNU Octave, Matlab), the version of such interpreter used to develop and run the code, and if the code that you have developed is compatible with more than one interpreter.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2526-CEC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on CEC1', Athanasios Kandylas, 30 Jul 2025
Dear Juan A. Añel,
Thank you very much for your feedback.
We have now clarified that the model is developed for MATLAB both in the manuscript and the Zenodo description.
I would like to ask if there is a place to upload the updated version of the manuscript or I should upload it when we address all the comment at the end of the reviewing process.
Best regards,
Athanasios
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2526-AC1 -
CEC2: 'Reply on AC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 30 Jul 2025
Dear authors,
You have to wait to further steps in the peer-review process to update your manuscript. If the Topical Editor decides to require you a revised version or accept the manuscript, then you will have the opportunity to include the changes.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2526-CEC2
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CEC2: 'Reply on AC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 30 Jul 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on CEC1', Athanasios Kandylas, 30 Jul 2025
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2526', Anonymous Referee #1, 22 Aug 2025
This is a mostly competently executed paper, although it has several major issues that make me doubt its publishability in its present form. The English is fairly good, although there are some quirks, detailed below.
The authors have mostly done a good job of separating Methods, Results and Discussion. However, the Discussion meanders and many passages are vague or unnecessary. It could be tightened up. It should also be expanded to include a few extra topics I will detail below, but the length of the current text could be reduced. And the Methods are missing some critical details. Many of the figure captions and legends are inadequate, and one figure is almost incomprehensible (see below Data Presentation).
There are a few references that I was surprised to not see cited (e.g., 10.5670/oceanog.1998.03, 10.1126/science.aay1790, 10.1038/s41598-020-60424-5). I am not suggesting that the authors 'shoehorn' these in if their inclusion borders on gratuitous, but I would recommend that they at least read the papers and think about whether there might be a place for them in the revised Introduction or Discussion.
Major Issues:
(1) I'm not sure what the overall purpose is. The paper doesn't really break any new ground with regard to the theory of particle aggregation. Nor does it present a novel computational tool to the modelling community in a way that seems likely to encourage its widespread adoption. It takes a tool that the authors have developed, conducts some numerical experiments with fairly idealized hypothetical environments, and reiterates some known facts about nonlinearity of aggregation response to particle concentration, sensitivity to stickiness, etc. If these authors really want the community to adopt this tool, one would think they would (a) do some evaluation of it relative to the available alternatives, (b) exhaustively document what its required inputs are, and (c) include some discussion of the computational cost, which I would assume is high compared to the (admittedly simplistic) formulations normally used in global and regional ocean biogeochemical models. There is also concern about traceability, as the antecedent manuscript by Visser et al is listed as just authors + title, with no information about where it is published or submitted (528). It is cited at least twice in the text as "Visser et al" (no year given) (70, 78). Possibly this is because it is submitted but not yet published and the authors expect these details to be available by final publication of this paper, but the details still need to be specified.
The Conclusion begins "In conclusion, SISSOMA provides a useful tool to mechanistically describe the dynamics of the seasonal cycle of the carbon export flux." But is this really a conclusion, or an a priori assumption? I'm not saying that the tool is not useful, but as a statement of what was actually demonstrated by the data shown in this paper, this doesn't quite work.
(2) To follow up on point (b), the documentation is inadequate. My first reaction to equation (3) was that there are multiple symbols that are never defined. Actually most of them are defined in Table A.1, but there is no reference to this Table until Section 2.2. I count three that are not, but are defined in the text on 103-111. None of these descriptions are very specific or informative.
Possibly this paper is just an application of what is in the cited literature and contains no novel process parameterizations. But again, I think the authors need to decide what their objective is. If this paper is presenting a novel process model, there needs to be a much more detailed description of the model itself. If it is just an application of existing model to present a new tool to the community, there needs to be more emphasis on the computational framework and potential future applications.
The authors do not always clearly define their terms (e.g., f100 vs F100) and some critical details about their idealized hypothetical environments are not explained. When f100 and F100 are introduced (equations 4 and 5) the meaning is fairly clear, except that x and y are not defined (see below Figure 1). As I read this, f100 is the export from a layer that we will treat for now as 100 m thick, integrated over the spectrum of excess density (rhoprime), in each increment of size (dr), and F100 is the flux integrated over both r and rhoprime. This is mostly consistent with the remaining text and figures, except for 166 where F100 is described as the "density-integrated export flux" which is defined as f100 on 144-145. On 178-180 there are several references to "the total amount of exported material, Fig. 4(c)". But Figure 4c actually shows f100; it's fairly clear from the plot that the statement is correct, but if one is going to define these quantities, then the text should reflect those definitions.
On 140 the vertical extent of domain of interest is stated to be "100m", which is consistent with the choice to call export flux F_100. On 150 we have "h is the mixed layer depth", implying that it is variable, which appears not to be the case. In Table A.1 it is described as the " Depth of simulated surface layer" and a constant value of 100 m is specified. In Figure 3(c), only a single value of TKED(t) is given, although the caption could lead readers to believe that h is not constant ("two scenarios were used to represent the stratification conditions of the system: a highly seasonally mixed and a stratified throughout the year.") The Abstract states that "The effect of increased stratification ... is then presented and discussed" and yet the experimental design appears to be built around a uniform mixed layer depth in all cases.
I would like the authors to (a) make a clear up front statement of what their idealized vertical structure is, e.g., a mixed layer with a constant depth of 100 m, that is vertically uniform and well mixed with a TKED that is constant in depth but variable in time, (b) add a paragraph to the Discussion that explains that this is a highly idealized case, and that in the real world the layer thickness would covary with the TKED, and the rate of particle production would vary with the flux of nutrients brought into the layer by mixing and entrainment.
Also I'm not sure the 1/h in eqs 4 and 5 is necessary. If we have a well-mixed layer of thickness h with a concentration of particles X with an average sinking rate w, then dX/dt=wX/h (see eq. 3) is the rate of change within the mixed layer (mg m^-3 d^-1), not the flux across its base (mg m^-2 d^-1).
(3) When I look at the results regarding sensitivity to remineralization rate (Table 1), I have doubts about the credibility of this tool. The s-ratio varies almost from 0-1 over a very narrow, and somewhat implausible, range of 0.01-0.05 d^-1. I think values 10X as large would be more realistic and more representative of what is used in contemporary ocean models, yet in this model those values would all be in the region where the response is asymptotic and sensitivity negligible (Figure 5). This should certainly be discussed in the Discussion.
In Figure 4a daily (?) data are shown and the s-ratio takes values > 15 (193). I think it would be better to only cite in the text e.g., monthly averages, and include some Discussion of whether these high values are realistic and how they compare to observation-based estimates of this ratio. There appears to be a rather lengthy period in the fall where F_100 >> P_POM, so even in a monthly mean s>>1. But could this also be related to the low remineralization rate? Is it really plausible that below a critical threshold for aggregation, organic particles will sit in the mixed layer for months and not decompose?
(4) It should be acknowledged somewhere that Stokes' Law is not an accurate description of the relationship between size and sinking rate in natural marine or lacustrine aggregates, and this has been known for a long time (e.g., Hawley, 1982, JGR 87: 9489). Also the 'modified' Stokes' Law (93-96) needs further explanation. No reference is given, although possibly it is explained in the currently untraceable reference by Visser et al (20**). The basic formulation of Stokes' Law does not include a drag coefficient, so some explanation of what this represents and how its value was derived is warranted. No value is given in Table A.1. Its unit is given as d^-1 (a drag coefficient for wind stress at the ocean surface is nondimensional).
Terminology:
I would recommend to remove most or all instances of "chance" and "chances". Some may be innocuous, although unnecessary (e.g. 224). Others (e.g., 110, 187, 204) create a misleading impression that there is a stochastic component to the model (same goes for "probability" on 109).
Inexperienced authors often overuse words like "dynamics". I count 26 in this MS. It can be a useful exercise to go through the MS searching out each occurrence of this word and at each instance ask (a) would another word serve as well, or make the meaning clearer? and (b) would the MS lose anything important if the word were not used at all? This is one of those scientific words that has specific meanings in specific contexts, but can also serve as an all-purpose buzz-word. To rethink each usage as suggested will help the author to develop his scientific writing style. The caption to Figure 4 begins with "system dynamics" and panel (d) is described as "the system-characteristic phase diagram"; this doesn't really help the reader to understand what is being shown.
On 335-337 these two concepts (stochasticity and dynamics) come together in a statement that "increased diversity of aggregate characteristics ... increases the stochasticity of the system dynamics". This is vague, unnecessary and bordering on meaningless. Puff-phrases like this should be avoided. And again: there is no stochastic component to this model.
I would also review all occurrences of "optimal". I don't think it's really clear what an 'optimal' sinking speed (e.g., 188, 204) or an 'optimal' excess density (e.g., 224) means in this context. Export is a monotonic function of sinking speed and sinking speed is a monotonic function of density.
"phase" is another nonlinear dynamics word that can be overused (20 occurrences). Possibly in this paper it is necessary (e.g., Figures 4 and 5). But there are also cases where it is clearly unnecessary, e.g. on 266, "we can also identify a phase shift around August". "bimodal" is also probably unnecessary (358)
Alongside some of the unnecessary jargon, there are also some oddly colloquial (or teleological) expressions, like a process "kicks off" (177, 278, 317, 353, F9 caption), "the remaining material can more successfully get involved in aggregation processes" (271), "the relative high density of their fragments enables them to repackage and get exported" (342), "to encounter and, then, successfully stick to each other" (348), or "the system needs a period to gain the momentum and react" (354) that seem out of place in this kind of publication (this is not an exhaustive list). Again, a good exercise would be to examine each instance and ask whether such terminology is necessary and whether it makes the meaning clearer for the reader.
Data Presentation
Figure 1 - The description given of the x and y axes ("x and y are the scaling factors") is vague; the term "scaling factors" is not defined nor used elsewhere. On 102 we have "N(s) is the number of aggregates in a given state-space bin, s = (r,rhoprime)". So we might assume that x and y are r and rhoprime. But the why would rhoprime be both one of the variables displayed and one of the axes? Also the colours named in the caption (green and purple), don't really describe the colours shown. (x and y are defined in Table A.1 as the indices to the bins of r and rhoprime but there is no reference to the Table in the figure caption.)
Figures 2 + 3 (panel (b) in both cases): Axes again labelled generically as x and y, again hints that these are equivalent to r and rhoprime, but not stated explicitly. In Figure 2 it is clear from the caption which is which (x is r and y is rhoprime); in Figure 3, I think that the same convention is followed, but it's not entirely clear from the caption.
Figure 3 - I think the units of TKED are m^2 s^-3 not m^3 s^-1 (https://cfd-online.com/Wiki/Turbulence_dissipation_rate) (see also Figure 7 ). Also it's not clear what "equally distributed" means in this context.
Figure 4 The caption is generally good in terms of explaining what is shown, except that the black dot in Panel (d) is not explained (this I the first plot where this device I used; it is explained e.g. in Figs. 5+8). Also in purely aesthetic terms, if you have 4 panels, why not arrange them in a 2x2 matrix? And why not use the same font/colour in the RH axis in panel (a) as in panels (b-d)?
Figures 5 and 7 - I think the inset or "encloses" (sic) plots need some more explanation. As I read it, their position relative to the x and y axes is arbitrary, because they have their own y axis and because Ftot is an integral over dr. But I think this need to be stated explicitly and the units stated in the caption.
Figure 6: The caption again begins with a vague, mostly meaningless phrase ("systematic representation") and then mostly fails to explain what is shown. Sorry but this is the one figure that left me mystified. The panels seem to represent increments of r and rhoprime, but only a range is specified in the caption. If 3 discrete increments were tested, why not just state what they are? And if s = F_100/P_POM, then a straight line should represent a constant value. But if s is also the colour scale, how can the points where the loops intersect the lines have such similar colours when the slopes of the lines are so different? What do the loops represent? Daily data over the course of a year? How does the reader tell where Jan. 1 is and which direction the temporal progression goes (anticlockwise, as in Figure 5?)? Qualitatively, I think key message of the plot is fairly clear. But in terms of proper documentation it fails. The text accompanying this figure (241-251) is also vague in places; it has a bit of an "arm-waving" feel to it and doesn't help the reader much in terms of understanding what the figure tells us about the underlying physical processes.
Figure 7 - Panel (b) is mentioned in the caption, but panel (a) is not. As in Figure 6, the reader can make an educated guess at what is being shown, but it should be spelled out more explicitly. As in Figure 5, the x/y position of the inset figures should be explained and the units of their axes specified. As in Figure 3, the units of TKED are incorrect. Also the horizontal bar that indicates storm duration has no colour code in the fall case. Possibly it's not necessary as only one duration was considered. But the text seems to be saying it was 7 days (272-275), the length of the bar more resembles the 14 day case, and as there is no colour code it's hard to be sure.
Figure 8 - The seasonal cycle of TKED that is used in these experiments needs to be stated explicitly, and maybe shown in a Supplementary figure.
Figure 9 - Again leads with an unnecessary jargon phrase "Summary of the dynamics of the system". This cartoon is actually quite clever, and with a bit of attention to detail it could be useful. But as in the previous examples, the authors do not pay enough attention to making sure that all of the symbols and axes are defined. Mostly importantly, the meaning of the dimensions of the arrows is not stated. Is it possible to make all of the arrows the same width, or the same length? Is it really necessary to have them vary in two separate dimensions, and how can the meaning of these dimensions be communicated to the reader? The inset plot at the top has no x axis label. It is possible to guess at its meaning but it would be better if it were explicitly stated in the caption. Also the colours of the arrows don't exactly match those in the legend, although it is fairly clear which is which. Why does the legend on the inset plot have "big/dense" and "small/porous" primary particles? Generally we think of larger particles as having greater porosity, although that is more for aggregates. I'm not sure porosity is even a relevant property of primary particles, or whether why this is so is explained elsewhere. In the caption, please change "is optimal" to "exceeds the threshold level" or something similar.
Some details:
11 and elsewhere change "resulted" to "resulting" (multiple occurrences)
18 add "in the deep ocean" after "stored"
20-21 "export is ultimately governed by primary productivity". I don't think this is true; there is a positive correlation across regions, but export ratios are highly variable.
28 at this point, P_POM has not yet been defined; also this would be a good place to state what subgroups of particles they envision as primary POM: does it include living cells? all kinds of cells, or only some kinds? what about colloids (gels) formed abiotically from DOM? or other materials like aeolian mineral dust?
54-57 This strikes me as an overgeneralization. In the Pacific, the mid-latitudes include both regions that have strong seasonal convection and regions that do not. What does "dominated by the microbial loop" mean?
60-61 a very general statement; vague and unnecessary
82 "aeolian" misspelled
98 reference format inconsistent (cite/citep) (see also 151)
104 q_m:c is not a term, according to the usual definition (e.g., if Z = aX+bY, the terms in the equation are aX and bY)
111 "losses" misspelled
112 delete "that it"
131 stray ' before "spring"
133-134 change "diffuse sparse nutrients into their cells more efficiently" to "take up nutrients more efficiently at low concentrations"
134 change "in lower magnitude" to "of lesser magnitude"
135 add "it" after "dies"
137 "base" should be "case"?
154-161 I don't think this paragraph belongs in the Methods. Introduction or Discussion.
166-167 "as well as it illustrates the instantaneous ratio between the export flux to the production of new particles" and illustrates the instantaneous ratio between the export flux and the production of new particles
175 delete "observed"
177 "there is a critical concentration of mass" yes, but could there not also potentially be a threshold in (r, rhoprime) space?
179 3 significant figures should suffice (see also 193)
184 "keep supporting the formation of optimal-sinking velocities aggregates" I can't tell what this means.
188 "remineralization" misspelled
197, 201, 428 change "emerged" to "emergent"
F5 caption "regarding" misspelled; "enclosed" misspelled
223 "higher stickiness means that a wider array of sizes of the exported material are observed, Fig. 5(d)" Is this really true? If you draw a straight line across the distribution at a given f100, you will get a broader range with the higher peak. But maybe this is an illusion: the distributions look to me like something close to linear multiples of each other. Higher stickiness means more export, but I'm not sure you can conclude from these data that the distributions meaningfully differ.
233 "until the point that big enough for sinking aggregates are formed" until the point where aggregates large enough to sink form
234 "during which period water is trapped in their interior progressively moving them to lower excess density" during which period porosity increases and density decreases
239 change "dis-proportionally" to " disproportionately"
242 "primary aggregates" should be "primary particles"?
255 delete "(through its involvement in the calculation of the coagulation kernel)"
256 change "excess densities" to "excess density"
258 change "the same, above-analyzed ecosystem" to "the same ecosystem discussed above"
262 "the faster the system’s response is" I can't tell what this means; please try to refer to specific facts that the reader can verify from the data shown.
267 change "mirrored" to "opposite"
273 "the latter scenario responses stronger"; change "responses stronger" to "responds more strongly", and try to make clear to the reader what "latter scenario" is being referenced (unclear antecedent)
279 change "high" to "highly"
281 2 significant figures is enough
283 "the incoming particles" incoming from where? newly produced particles? there should not be any external sources in this model
284 change "later" to "latter"
297 "remineralization" misspelled
314 change "turbidity" to "turbulence"
323 change "exhibitions" to "expeditions"
347 delete "or turbulence"
356 not sure what "immobilize" means in this context; possibly the intended word was "motivate"
361 change "fractures" to "fragments"
362 change "turned into nutrients" to "remineralized"
366-368 "By remineralization being the dominant process, a portion of them is lost into nutrients and progressively moves into lower excess density bins." Not clear what is the relationship between remineralization and excess density: remineralization is not a function of particle size or density, so it should not directly affect the distribution of density. There's something else they are trying to express here and I can't tell what it is.
432 delete "out"
519 the doi given does not match the title cited; possibly these authors read an earlier version
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2526-RC1 -
RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2526', Anonymous Referee #2, 07 Sep 2025
Review of `Seasonal cycles of the carbon export flux in the ocean: Insights from the SISSOMA mechanistic model` by Kandylas and Visser
Kandylas and Visser present a study using SISOMA, a model previously published as a preprint by Visser et al. (2024), to explore the seasonal cycle of carbon export flux in the ocean. The model simulates marine aggregates, including their size and excess density, resulting in a time-varying sinking speed. The authors conduct several sensitivity analyses related to particle stickiness, remineralization, and size–excess density characteristics. While the main focus is on the seasonal cycle of the carbon flux, the study also analyzes the s-ratio and its relationship to parameters.
I found the paper well-organized and relevant to important research areas concerning particulate organic carbon and its fate in the ocean. I particularly appreciated the authors’ discussion (could be expanded) on how this type of modeling framework can be implemented in more complex ocean biogeochemical models, which are commonly used to study metrics such as the e-ratio and s-ratio.
The manuscript is well written and follows a logical structure with clearly defined sections: Introduction, Methods, Results, and Discussion. It is generally understandable and well presented. However, some points should be addressed or corrected before being considered for a publication. These are outlined in detail below.
I have one major comment: the SISOMA (v1) model was already published as a preprint by the same authors in November 2024. It would be helpful if the manuscript clearly states whether this study is an application of the previously developed tool or if there are significant updates or developments to the model specific to this study. This clarification is necessary, especially since some parts of the manuscript (e.g., Eq. 3 and model descriptions) appear to be very similar to the preprint.
Introduction
- Line 28: “PPoM “is not introduced before it is used.
- Line 35: I suggest moving this equation to the Methods section. It can also be given as a written description. Since it is one of the equations used in the analysis, presenting it in the Methods would be more appropriate.
- Line 44: A parenthesis is needed before “e.g.”
- Line 70: (Visser et al.,) — the year is missing, and the DOI is also missing from the references. I believe it is critical to cite this reference correctly, as the model used in this application was described in 2024. The same issue appears elsewhere in the manuscript and should be corrected throughout (I won't point them all out individually).
Methods
- Line 87: The statement starting with “In principle, ...” belongs more in the Discussion section. In the Methods, the focus should be on describing what has actually been done.
- Line 101 – Eq. 3: This equation is the same as Eq. 8 in Visser et al. (2024), where it is explained more clearly. I’m not suggesting it needs to be copied word by word, but the explanation could be improved in this version by referring to that paper (depending, of course, on the publication status of the preprint).
- Figure 1: It would help the reader if the axis labels indicated whether x and y are scaling factors.
- Line 144: “Throughout the report” — I think you mean manuscript. I suggest using `manuscript` instead of `report.`
- In the same paragraph and following equations, there are some inconsistencies. For example, it’s unclear what a, b, c refer to — please use equation numbers for clarity. Also, Eq. 6 is the s-ratio, but in the text, it is described as Ftot. These should be carefully checked.
- Lines 155–160: This section seems more appropriate for the Introduction rather than the Methods.
Results
- Line 163: The subheading “Model Mechanics” is clear for a modeller, but for a broader audience, it would be helpful to provide a more descriptive title that reflects the narrative of Figures 4 and 5.
- Figure 4: The blue line in panel (a) needs a legend. Additionally, the meaning of the black dot in Figure 4d should be included in the figure caption — I assume it represents the annual mean, as indicated in the caption of Figure 5.
- Figure 6: In the caption, I assume P stands for PPOM.
- Line 226–227: The reference to Figure 5 should be placed in parentheses.
Discussion
- Line 293: “SISOMA provides modeling... mixed layer” — but throughout the study, 100 m depth is used. Since the mixed layer depth varies seasonally, was this variability accounted for in your application? I think it is important to be consistent and clear.
- Line 296–297: Misspelling: “remineneralization” should be corrected to “remineralization”.
- Figure 9: This is a very well-presented summary figure that nicely communicates the manuscript's story and conclusions. Therefore, it can be used as a guide while reversing manuscript`s method and result section. It also provides a helpful framework for the community. It shows the relative importance of remineralization, aggregation, fragmentation, and sinking during the three phases of carbon export. However, I was a bit confused about the arrows and Ccirt. Figure would benefit to revising of them.
- Line 421: This is a good aim/paragraph and could be expanded further. The first sentence of the paragraph, in particular, would benefit from being supported by a reference - for example, Henson et al. (2019), which is already included in the reference list. There is relevant literature on this topic, and incorporating additional references would help strengthen the authors’ argument. In my opinion, this part of the discussion would benefit from integrating more references.
Reference
Visser, A. W., Almgren, A. V., and Kandylas, A.: SISSOMA (v1): modelling marine aggregate dynamics from production to export. https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-2520
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