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The terrestrial ice margin morphology in Kalaallit Nunaat (Greenland)
Abstract. The Greenland ice sheet (GrIS) and its peripheral glaciers and ice caps (PGIC) have received a lot of attention with respect to its marine-terminating, and considerably less for the remaining sections ending on land or in lakes. While the dominant part of ice mass imbalance is driven by calving at marine termini, a large part of the mass loss is caused by surface melt, leaving via those latter less studied margins. Relying on ice masks and a dataset for lake distribution we for the first time provide an assessment of the lengths of marine-, land- and lake-terminating margins across Greenland, showing that over a total length of 76154 km and 174425 km, for GrIS and PGIC respectively, 96.4 % (93.1 % and 97.8 %) of the margin is land-terminating, with the marine- and lake-terminating margin making up only 2.2 % (3.6 and 1.6 %) and 1.4 % (3.3 and 0.6 %). We also show that the ArcticDEM product is able to capture margin morphologies across large parts of the land-terminating margin, identifying 28.4 % as near-vertical features over shallow terrain, confirming earlier hypothesis of a large prevalence of these extremely steep features. 13.4 % are identified as steep (∼20–45°) and 17.3 % as shallow ramps (<20°). These data provide a basis to investigate the reason for surface morphology differences at terrestrial ice margins.
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2424', Jonathan Ryan, 13 Aug 2025
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I just wanted to alert the authors that Ryan et al. (2024) mapped lengths of marine- and lake-terminating (and land-terminating by subtraction) margins for the Greenland Ice Sheet (see citation below). Some of the text in your manuscript therefore slightly overstates its significance (e.g. L4 and L358: “for the first time…” and “first comprehensive quantification…”). I think the statements at L4 and L358 should be revised to acknowledge this.
I was not able to reproduce the total values in Table 1 for the GrIS. I found that the total length of Regional_Lake_Margin_GrIS.gpkg is 6,446 km which would be 8.5% of the total perimeter. Likewise, Regional_Marine_Margin_GrIS.gpkg has a total length of 12,138 km which would be 16.0% of the perimeter. Maybe I did something wrong – I’ve included my code in the attached PDF.
The length of GrIS margin is longer than Ryan et al. (2024) (76,154 vs. 29,269 km). I think the main reason for the differences is the treatment of nunataks which you include (but we exclude). It looks like you are able to provide statistics with and without nunataks. It would be great if you could provide two numbers (i.e. with nunataks included and excluded) throughout the manuscript so that we can more directly compare our findings.
The length of the GrIS ice-ocean boundary looks like it is overestimated (12,138 km for GrIS). It looks like the dataset incorrectly identifies some nunataks as ice-ocean boundaries. There are also many cases where the sides of tidewater glaciers are identified as ice-ocean boundaries. See attached PDF for a couple of examples. Note that Ryan et al. (2024) found the GrIS ice-ocean boundary to be 1,598 km in 1990-95 and 1,439 km in 2003-07. The large differences between the two numbers should at least be mentioned in the Discussion.
There is also a large difference between the length of the GrIS ice-lake boundaries between this study and Ryan et al. (2024) (6,445 km vs. ~550 km). I understand that the ice-lake boundaries are more challenging to identify but, again, it would be useful to mention whether these differences are caused by decisions to include vs. exclude nunataks in the Discussion given the similar goal of both datasets.
Thanks and good luck with the rest of the review process.
References
Ryan, J., Ross, T., Cooley, S., Fahrner, D., Abib, N., Benson, V., & Sutherland, D. (2024). Retreat of the Greenland Ice Sheet leads to divergent patterns of reconfiguration at its freshwater and tidewater margins. Journal of Glaciology, e65. https://doi.org/10.1017/jog.2024.61
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tIM - the Greenland ice margin repository Jakob Steiner, Jakob Abermann, Rainer Prinz https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.15491607
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