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Hectometric-scale modelling of the urban mixed layer evaluated with a dense LiDAR-ceilometer network
Abstract. With development in recent years of hectometric (O(100 m); hm) scale numerical weather prediction (NWP) models, there is a need for their evaluation with high spatio-temporal scale observations. Here we assess UK Met Office Unified Model (UM) simulations with grid-spacing down to 100 m using a dense network of observations obtained during the urbisphere-Berlin campaign. A network of 25 automatic lidars-ceilometers (ALCs) provide aerosol attenuated backscatter observations from which mixed-layer height (MLH) is determined. UM simulated aerosol on two days (18 April and 4 August 2022) is used to determine model MLH with a novel algorithm (MMLH). MMLH is consistently able to reproduce the vertical extent of the mixed layer during late afternoon despite the two case-study days having different maxima. MMLH performance is better in the 100 m model domain compared to a 300 m configuration, which may be explained by the higher vertical resolution in the 100 m configuration. During the August case in which an extreme heat event occurred, a delayed MLH growth is seen in the morning and afternoon over the city compared to the rural surroundings in both the model and ALCs. Both days show a distinct influence of the city through the mixed layer, including a plume extending downwind of the city that is detectable in both the observations and model. The modelled urban plume has a deeper mixed layer compared to the rural surroundings (4 August: ~500 m; 18 April: ~200 m) for up to 15 km downwind of the city.
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2064', Anonymous Referee #1, 01 Jul 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2064', Anonymous Referee #2, 04 Aug 2025
The authors address the very relevant topic of the recent development of atmosperic numerical models towards the hectometric scale. The continuous increase of computing power meanwhile allows several Meteorological Services to run their mesoscale models at an hectometric scale, or they are close to it. One obvious application at that scale is to simulate the weather and climate phenomena over urban areas. In the recent years, several Weather Services have developed and integrated urban schemes in their NWP models.
A remaining issue for activating these urban schemes in operational NWP is the availability of observational datasets covering rural and in particular urban areas. The authors present and utilize a dense LiDAR-ceilometer network over Berlin.
General comments:
- The strategy in this manuscript is focussed on the MURK aerosol scheme in the UM. Could this method also be transferred to a sophisticated aerosol model, if becoming available in UM, or to other atmospheric models in general. There is one sentence like this in section 5, maybe this could be a bit elaborated?
- Likely also MURK has errors or shortcomings. How much do they influence or limit the general findings of this study?
- I find Fig. 4 very convincing. But it stays a bit unclear, why the UM boundary layer diagnostic BLD is so very different from the aerosol-based method, particularly in the afternoon and evening io 4 August. Some literature is quoted confirming this result. Why does the parcel-based BLD not capture the effect that the aerosols are actually further transported verically upward? By which physical process does this happen? Maybe a figure of the vertical motion (in a cross section) could shed more light on this?
- Section 4.2 has a very descriptive character. Would it possible to also find some reasoning or explanations for the things described?
- Figs. 9-12 look very convincing. Anyway, are there ideas about the (remaining) differences between model and obs in Figs.10 and 12?
Minor comments:
- Fig. 1: The rings are not explained well. The explanation comes in the caption of Fig. 2. Maybe move this to caption of Fig. 1, or refer to Fig. 2?
- Fig. 2: The descriptions of rings A to C are not so easy to find. Maybe different colour?
- L. 172: … observed MLH (from now on referred to as Z_O) …
- L. 174: Similar with model MLH Z_M.
- L. 209: WEDD: Maybe add the name „Wedding“ of the quarter (for the readers who know Berlin 🙂).
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2064-RC2 -
EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2064', Bianca Adler, 05 Aug 2025
Dear Russell Glazer and co-authors,
As you can see, two reviewers have completed their assessment of your manuscript. They both suggest major revisions and provide critical comments and suggestions to improve the work and its presentation.
Please provide a detailed response to each of their comments. Both reviewers commented on the different methods to detect the mixed layer height in the observations and model and further details and clarification are needed. In addition, including some analysis of the dynamics in the model (vertical and horizontal wind, turbulence) would be helpful to understand the physical processes driving the aerosol layer and plume in the model.
I am looking forward to receiving your response and revised manuscript.
Best wishes,
Bianca
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2064-EC1 - AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2064 - referee #1', Russell Glazer, 01 Sep 2025
- AC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2064 - referee #2', Russell Glazer, 01 Sep 2025
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AC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2064', Russell Glazer, 01 Sep 2025
Note that the wind direction in Fig. 10 has been updated in the revised manuscript due to an issue that was found during revision.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-2064-AC3
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This manuscript aims to evaluate hectometric-scale modeling of the urban mixing layer using an extensive ceilometer network. Specifically, it seeks to assess the model’s ability to determine the urban ABL, focusing on the mixing layer height (MLH), by comparing simulated aerosol vertical profiles with ceilometer measurements using the same retrieval algorithm. The model’s approach to determining ABL/MLH turbulent mixing and its relationship to aerosol vertical distribution is not adequately discussed. Therefore, it remains uncertain whether this evaluation is truly useful in evaluating the urban mixed layer. The study then assesses the model’s ability to capture the spatial distribution of MLH and evaluates the urban smoke plume for two case study days. These results suggest that the model still does not accurately represent land characteristics, which is an important and interesting finding, supported by previous research. Additionally, the impact of this misrepresentation on urban plume transport is an important result, and further insights on this should be included. The manuscript would benefit from a more thorough discussion of the implications of these findings, explaining how these models are to be implemented and how the paper's findings may influence that implementation. Overall, the reviewer recommends publication after addressing major revisions.
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