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Energetics of monsoons and deserts: role of surface albedo vs water vapor feedback
Abstract. Despite receiving similar solar energy, the top-of-the-atmosphere (TOA) radiation budget is negative over deserts and positive over monsoon domains. This contrast has been attributed to differences in the surface albedo between the two regions. Here, we show that this difference in TOA radiation budget is primarily driven by the absorption of longwave radiation by water vapor, while the surface albedo only plays a secondary role. As a greenhouse gas, water vapor absorbs the surface longwave radiation and enhances the local radiative heating of the atmosphere. Due to the aridity of the deserts and prevalent clear sky conditions, long wave energy is efficiently radiated to space. We demonstrate that this is the dominant cause of the net radiative cooling of the atmosphere. Our hypothesis is confirmed by a climate model experiment in which the Earth’s rotation is reversed. This flips the zonal asymmetries producing a monsoon over the Sahara (in spite of high albedo) and a desert over South East Asia (where low albedo persists). We find that radiative feedback of water vapor on the large-scale circulation drives these changes initially, with further amplification by cloud feedbacks. Our results suggest that this radiation-circulation feedback due to water vapor enhances monsoon-desert contrast.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1734', Anonymous Referee #1, 21 May 2025
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Review of the manuscript entitled "Energetics of monsoons and deserts: role of surface albedo vs water vapor feedback" by Jalihal and Mikolajewicz
In this manuscript, the authors present a compelling argument that the top-of-the-atmosphere (TOA) radiation budget contrast between monsoon and desert regions is primarily driven by water vapour feedback, with surface albedo playing only a secondary role. This challenges the classical Charney (1975, https://doi.org/10.1002/qj.49710142802) hypothesis, which emphasises albedo-driven desertification feedbacks. The study employs a combination of theoretical reasoning and a novel climate model experiment (RETRO, in which Earth’s rotation is reversed) to support its claims. While the hypothesis is intriguing and potentially significant for understanding monsoon-desert radiative dynamics, I have some serious concerns regarding the experimental design and interpretation of results.
Major Concern: Limitations of the RETRO Experiment
The central issue with this study lies in its reliance on the RETRO experiment to "confirm" the hypothesis. While reversing Earth’s rotation is a creative way to alter large-scale climate asymmetries, it is not an appropriate experimental framework for isolating the specific roles of water vapour versus surface albedo in TOA radiation budgets. My concerns are as follows:
- Fundamental Alteration of Planetary Dynamics
Reversing Earth’s rotation drastically changes the Coriolis force, jet stream pathways, ocean circulation, and storm tracks. These modifications introduce confounding dynamical effects that are unrelated to water vapour’s radiative role.
The resulting climate (e.g., a Sahara monsoon and Southeast Asian desert in the RETRO simulation) is influenced not just by humidity and radiation but also by completely reconfigured atmospheric and oceanic circulations. Thus, attributing the TOA budget differences solely to water vapour is problematic.
- Lack of a Clean Sensitivity Test
A more robust approach would involve directly perturbing water vapour concentrations (e.g., through a "dry world" vs. "moist world" experiment) while keeping Earth’s rotation unchanged.
Alternatively, radiative kernel analysis could quantitatively separate the contributions of water vapour, clouds, and surface albedo to the TOA budget. Please refer to Soden et al. (2008, https://doi.org/10.1175/2007JCLI2110.1) for further details.
- Overlooked Factors: Dust Aerosols and Clouds
The study does not account for dust aerosols, which are prevalent over deserts and significantly influence both shortwave (albedo) and longwave (trapping) radiation (Osborne et al., 2011, QJRMS, https://doi.org/10.1002/qj.771).
The role of cloud feedbacks, while briefly mentioned, is not rigorously disentangled from water vapour effects. Since clouds co-vary with humidity, their radiative impact could also explain part of the TOA contrast.
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Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-1734-RC1
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