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Characterization of Free Tropospheric Layers With Polar Radio Occultation Data
Abstract. Polarimetric Radio Occultation (PRO) concurrently detects heavy precipitation, ice, and the vertical thermodynamic structure inside clouds, enhancing traditional radio occultation measurements. We compare cloud top heights (CTOP) defined as the uppermost altitude at which the polarimetric phase difference between the horizontal and vertical components, Δϕ, exceeds 1 mm, for three years of PRO data from the Radio Occultation and Heavy Precipitation (ROHP) experiment, to the local tropical tropopause layer (TTL) base, a minimum stability level determined as the maximum lapse rate height (LRMAX). The TTL base coincides with the 80th – 90th percentiles of CTOP globally. We examine the skill of using the Tropopause Inversion Layer and the minimum vertical gradient of the lapse rate (∂LR/∂z)min to characterize the tropopause compared to the lapse rate and the cold point tropopauses. The TTL thickness, defined as the height of the (∂LR/∂z)min minus the LRMAX, is thinnest over the Tropical Warm Pool where LRMAX and CTOP are deepest. The steepest meridional gradient with latitude of the TTL top height is just equatorward of the subtropical maxima of the frequency of double tropopauses. For tropical raining clouds, when the maximum Δϕ, Δϕmax exceeds 10 mm, the mean binned CTOP is 2.7 km below the mean LRMAX, with a slope of nearly one. Using 0.8 mm for the Δϕ CTOP threshold is optimal, while reducing below 0.8 mm decreases the CTOP and LRMAX spatial correlation. Globally, cloud tops associated with the largest 99th-percentile Δϕmax are 0.4 km above LRMAX.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3898', Anonymous Referee #1, 07 Feb 2025
- AC1: 'Replies to Reviewer 1', Terence Kubar, 22 Aug 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3898', Anonymous Referee #2, 12 May 2025
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2025/egusphere-2024-3898/egusphere-2024-3898-RC2-supplement.pdf
- AC2: 'Replies to Reviewer 2', Terence Kubar, 22 Aug 2025
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To summarize, this paper considers Earth radio occultation (RO) data obtained by standard RO and by polarimetric RO to explore quantities associated with clouds and the tropopause transition layer (TTL). First, in order to define the TTL vertical boundaries, they construct a new definition of the tropopause that can be used to bound the bottom side of the TTL. They found existing definitions inadequate for their purposes. They apply their definitions and explore the consequences for the TTL, the extent of double-tropopauses, and the depth of the troposphere. Then the authors explore relationships between cloud-top height according to various definitions of differential phase from polarimetric radio occultation (PRO) obtained by the rohp-PAZ mission. They find consistency of some of their results with previous findings by the first author.
I find this paper to be a stream-of-consciousness grab-bag of computations without well-defined purpose or intent, unorganized, abstruse in its presentation, with no interesting conclusion. It’s as if the authors felt required to publish after an initial exploration of data without a coherent idea of why they should publish.
A couple of salient points. These are examples; fixing just these few points should not be construed as a response to this review. Much more serious repair is needed before it is resubmitted.
I very strongly urge a resubmission after the authors consider a wholesale reorganization of their research and presentation.