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Retention During Freezing of Raindrops, Part I: Investigation of Single and Binary Mixtures
Abstract. The interaction with freezing processes and vertical transport of trace gases into the upper atmosphere during deep convection is critical to understanding the distribution of aerosol precursors and their climate effects. We conducted experimental studies inside a walk-in cold room for freely levitating rain drops (D = 2 mm) using an acoustic levitator apparatus. We investigated the effect of freezing raindrops on the retention of organic species for the first time with silver iodide as the ice nucleating agent. Quantitative chemical analysis determined the retention coefficient, which is defined as the fraction of a chemical species remaining in the ice phase compared to their initial liquid phase concentrations. We measured the retention coefficients of nitric acid, formic acid, acetic acid, and 2-nitrophenol as single components. Furthermore, we determined the retention coefficients of these substances as binary mixtures. Our results show the dominance of physical properties over their chemical counterparts on overall retention for the investigated large drops. Thus, for rain sized drops almost everything is fully retained during the freezing process, even for species with low effective Henry’s law constants. An ice shell is formed within 4.8 ms around the drops just after the freezing was initiated. This ice shell formation was found to be the controlling factor for the overall retention of the investigated species, which inhibited any further expulsion of dissolved substances from the drop.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3917', Anonymous Referee #1, 09 Jan 2025
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This manuscript presented the retention coefficients of trace gases in the freezing rain size droplets. This study used acoustic levitator to freeze droplets initiated by silver iodide and then measured the remained substances in the frozen droplets. The pH and temperature dependences are also investigated. New parameterization of the retention indicator are proposed. The topic of this study fits the scope of this journal. This manuscript is well written. There are several issues need to be addressed before publication.
Major comments:
- L35-58, do we expect significant difference in retention of volatile gases regarding the physical mechanism between cloud and rain droplets? A better rationalization focusing on rain droplet size is needed.
- L95, this study only investigated at concentration of 20 mg/L. What are the typical concentrations of investigated substances in the real rain drops? Are the retention coefficients also depending on the initial concentrations?
- Section 3.2, for higher pH, NaOH is used to control the pH of the solution. There is no H+ for the investigated acids to be partitioned into gas phase, so of cause the retention coefficient would be close to 1 even without freezing. Please comment on this.
Other comments:
- Title, Retention of what? It is suggested to include the subjects in the title. It would be more specific.
- L8, which physical properties?
- L50, which studies mentioned? Please be specific.
- Section 2.1, what are the temperature uncertainties?
- L352, temperature at fice of 50% is the median freezing temperature, not mean/average.
- Missing page information for some references.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-3917-RC1 -
RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3917', Gabor Vali, 12 Jan 2025
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The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2024/egusphere-2024-3917/egusphere-2024-3917-RC2-supplement.pdf
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Retention During Freezing of Raindrops, Part I: Investigation of Single and Binary Mixtures Martanda Gautam, Alexander Theis, Jackson Seymore, Moritz Hey, Subir K. Mitra, and Miklós Szakáll https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14319647
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