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Cold pools mediate mesoscale adjustments of trade-cumulus fields to changes in cloud-droplet number concentration
Abstract. The mesoscale self-organization of trade-cumulus cloud fields is a major cloud-climate uncertainty. Cold pools, i.e. pockets of cold, dense air resulting from rain evaporation, are a key mechanism in shaping these dynamics and are controlled by the large-scale forcing. We study the microphysical sensitivity of cloud-field self-organization through cold pools by varying cloud-droplet number concentration Nc from 20 to 1000 /cm3 in large-eddy simulations on large 154×154 km2-domains. We find that cold pools exhibit two distinct regimes of mesoscale self-organization. In very low-Nc conditions, cold pools transition from a stage where they are small and randomly distributed to forming large, long-lived structures that perpetuate due to the collisions of cold pools at their fronts. Under high-Nc conditions, cold pools display strongly intermittent behaviour and interact with clouds through small, short-lived structures. While Nc thus influences the number of cold pools and, in turn, mesoscale organization, cloud depth, and cloud albedo, we find its effect on cloud cover to be minimal. Comparing the microphysical sensitivity of cold-pool-mediated mesoscale dynamics to the external, large-scale forcing shows that Nc is as important as horizontal wind and large-scale subsidence for trade-cumulus albedo. Our results highlight that cold pools mediate adjustments of trade-cumulus cloud fields to changes in Nc. Such mesoscale adjustments need to be considered if we are to better constrain the effective aerosol forcing and cloud feedback in the trade-wind regime.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3501', Anonymous Referee #1, 05 Jan 2025
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This manuscript, "Cold pools mediate mesoscale adjustments of trade-cumulus fields to changes in cloud-droplet number concentration," presents an excellent study on the interplay between cloud-droplet number concentration (Nc) and trade-cumulus cloud fields, with a particular focus on cold pools. The study is timely, well-executed, and provides valuable insights into a topic essential for understanding cloud-climate interactions. The study identifies two distinct cold-pool regimes driven by Nc: one characterized by long-lived, organized structures formed through frequent cold-pool interactions at low Nc and another dominated by sparse, short-lived cold pools at high Nc. The study concludes that mesoscale dynamics, driven by Nc variability, significantly contribute to trade-cumulus feedback comparable to large-scale cloud-controlling factors.In my opinion, this is a very well-written and clear manuscript that will contribute meaningfully to the field. The study is carefully designed, and the methods and results are robust. I have a few minor questions to further enhance the clarity of some concepts and results. I would like to recommend this manuscript for publication with only minor revisions.
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L118-119:
The sentence “The lower boundary of hmix is determined by subtracting the difference between the upper boundary and the mode from the mode” is somewhat unclear to me.Would it be more correct for me to understand it as: “The lower boundary of hmix is calculated by first determining the difference between the upper boundary and the mode, and then subtracting this difference from the mode”?-
Figure 4, cold pool numbers and sizes
Figure 4. Caption:“Note that the reason for the cold pools in simulation Nc = 70 /cm³ forming earlier than Nc = 20 /cm³ is that cold pools featuring a diameter of <5 km are not considered to be part of the cold-pool mask.”Could you clarify why an additional filtering condition could not be applied to exclude such small cold pools from the threshold? Additionally, why do such small but significantly varying cold pools appear specifically in the Nc = 70 /cm³ simulation? Understanding this would provide further insight into the dynamics of cold pools in this regime.Overall, I think the manuscript does an excellent job explaining the differences between Nc = 20 /cm³ and Nc = 1000 /cm³. However, Figure 3 suggests that the cold pools in the Nc = 50, 70, and 100 /cm³ cases exhibit the most pronounced structures and counts. Yet, these cases do not appear to receive the same level of synthesis or discussion as the extreme cases (e.g., Nc = 20 and 1000 /cm³) shown in Figure 5. Could you elaborate on the reasoning for this or include more analysis of these intermediate cases?Figure 4. Caption:“Time series of cold-pool number and size are slightly smoothed using Gaussian filtering.”Could you provide more details about the Gaussian filtering method used here? Specifically, was the same filtering applied to both cold-pool number (Figure 4c) and size (Figure 4d), and how might this smoothing influence the interpretation of the results?L155 & Figure 4d:The term “domain-mean size of cold pools, Scp” lacks clarity regarding its units and definition. In Figure 4d, the unit is shown as kilometers (km). Should this instead be km² if it represents the area, or does “size” specifically refer to the radius or diameter of the cold pool? Adding this clarification would help ensure consistent understanding.Figure 4:In addition to the mean size shown in these panels, would it be possible to include the time evolution of the 90th and 10th percentiles, or perhaps the 75th and 25th percentiles, of cold-pool sizes? This could provide a clearer picture of the size distribution over time, especially since the maximum and minimum sizes—particularly for Nc = 70 /cm³—are both extremely large and highly variable across different Nc values. Including this information might help better illustrate the variability and outlier behavior in the size distributions.-
Would Nc affect initial cold-pool field?
Figure 5:This is a general question. The manuscript does an excellent job of explaining how, at large Nc values, the fewer cold pools and their greater distances reduce the subsequent collisions that could generate new convective events (e.g., L238, L349). However, my question concerns the initial cold-pool field: why do simulations with large Nc values already exhibit fewer and more widely spaced cold pools from the very beginning of the convective mode? Are there specific physical mechanisms at play here? For instance, could Nc directly affect precipitation evaporation rates, thereby influencing the initial cold-pool field?-
Definition of Self-Organization
This manuscript presents an intriguing conclusion: when cold pools are suppressed, self-aggregation of cloud fields is enhanced by increased Nc (e.g., L333). However, the calculation of convective organization metrics appears challenging and nuanced. For instance, the evolution of the Iorg index shown in Figure A1 (g) and (h) does not align with this conclusion. On the other hand, I appreciate the use of the spatial standard deviation of the liquid-water path (σL) in Figure 6(a), which provides a unique perspective on cloud organization.That said, the definition of "organization" used in this paper is somewhat unconventional, particularly since cold pools seem to play a limited role under this definition. I would suggest adding more discussion about how "organization" is defined and the physical meaning behind this choice. Such an explanation would clarify why the conclusion here—that cold pools are suppressed but the organization is enhanced—differs from the commonly understood relationship where cold pools generally increase convective organization.Additionally, I would like to request more explanation for the Nc = 70 /cm³ case. As seen in Figure 3, the clouds under this condition exhibit pronounced spatial heterogeneity (and apparent organization) from hour 30 to 50. Providing further analysis of the medium Nc case could help me—and other readers—better understand its unique characteristics and their implications.Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-3501-RC1 -
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