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QBOi El Nino Southern Oscillation experiments Part I: Overview of experiment design and ENSO modulation of the QBO
Abstract. Stratosphere-troposphere Processes And their Role in Climate (SPARC) Quasi-Biennial Oscillation initiative (QBOi) project has conducted new experiments to explore the modulation of the QBO by El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO). This paper provides an overview of the experiment design and investigates the modulation of the QBO by ENSO using nine climate models from the QBOi. A key finding is a consistent lengthening of the QBO period during La Niña compared to El Niño across all models, aligning with observational evidence. However, the magnitude of this lengthening shows large intermodel differences. By contrast, even the sign of the ENSO effect on QBO amplitude varies among models -models employing variable parameterized gravity wave sources generally exhibit greater sensitivity of the QBO amplitude to the presence of ENSO than those models using fixed sources. The models capture key observed ENSO-related characteristics, including a weaker Walker circulation and increased equatorial precipitation during El Niño compared to La Niña, as well as a characteristic response in zonal mean zonal wind and temperature. These modulations influence the propagation and filtering of gravity waves. Notably, models with variable parameterized gravity wave sources show stronger wave forcing during El Niño, potentially explaining the shorter QBO period modulation in these models. Further investigation into the complex interplay between ENSO, gravity waves, and the QBO can contribute to improved model formulations.
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3270 - on the forcing of QBO', Paul Pukite, 29 Oct 2024
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Decades ago Richard Lindzen came to the conclusion that the quasi-biennial oscillation (QBO) could not be caused by tidal forcing, despite it's obvious potential as a driving mechanism. Negative results are often difficult to find in the literature, but Lindzen mentioned this in two passages:
- "For oscillations of tidal periods the nature of the forcing is clear" - Lindzen, Richard D. "Planetary waves on beta-planes." Monthly Weather Review 95.7 (1967): 441-451.
- " .. it is unlikely that lunar periods could be produced by anything other than the lunar tidal potential" - Lindzen, Richard S., and Siu-shung Hong. "Effects of mean winds and horizontal temperature gradients on solar and lunar semidiurnal tides in the atmosphere." Journal of the atmospheric sciences 31.5 (1974): 1421-1446.
At this point of QBO historical data there were only 6 to 8 complete cycles to draw from, yet Lindzen apparently missed the possibility of nonlinear aliasing the lunar cycle against the annual cycle. The only candidate due to QBO wavenumber=0 group symmetry arguments is the 27.2122 day nodal (aka draconic) lunar cycle, which generates a (365.242/27.212) mod 1 = 2.37 year physically aliased repeat period. This matches the historical record, continuing decades later from these early Lindzen studies, see Ref [1].
From EGUSPHERE-2024-3270, this passage needs clarification:
- "It is clear over this record that the QBO differs somewhat from cycle to cycle (e.g. Quiroz, 1981) and there have been efforts to try to see if the cycle-to-cycle variations may systematically depend on such factors as solar activity, volcanic eruptions or the El Niño/Southern Oscillation (ENSO) cycle of the tropical troposphere (Dunkerton, 1983;
Geller et al., 1997; Salby and Callahan, 2000; Hamilton, 2002, Kane, 2004; Taguchi, 2010). "
By "solar activity", one can't imply that is related to sunspot activity, as that is minor compared to the annual or seasonal solar cycle. In fact, the annual solar cycle figures into the same nodal symmetry group as the Semi-Annual Oscillation (SAO) which exists directly above the QBO in altitude. The topological similarity in the nodal driving force behind both the SAO and QBO (the former solar nodal, and the latter solar+lunar nodal) is described in detail in Ref [1].
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[1] Pukite, P., Coyne, D. and Challou, D. (2018). Wind Energy. In Mathematical Geoenergy (John Wiley & Sons). https://doi.org/10.1002/9781119434351.ch11Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-3270-CC1 -
RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3270', Anonymous Referee #1, 11 Dec 2024
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The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2024/egusphere-2024-3270/egusphere-2024-3270-RC1-supplement.pdf
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