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Winds with destructive potential across a topographic and seasonal gradient in a Central Amazon forest
Abstract. Winds can exceed the mechanical stability of trees, leading to snapping or uprooting. In large portions of the Amazon, storms propagating winds with destructive potential (WDP) are key drivers of tree mortality, affecting forest structure, biomass stocks, and species composition. Our understanding of WDP primarily comes from tree damage observations, as meteorological records assessing wind patterns exist in few locations and are often made with insufficient time resolution. Consequently, the temporal and spatial patterns of WDP remain poorly understood. Using 24 months of meteorological data recorded at canopy height across a topographic and rainfall gradient, we developed an innovative method for detecting and describing WDP in a central Amazon forest. We assessed the frequency, speed, and critical duration of WDP and possible relationships with local topography and rainfall seasonality/intensity. We recorded 424 WDP events, with speeds ranging from 10 to 17.9 m s-1 and critical durations from 1 to 90 seconds. WDP occurred approximately 4 % of the analyzed time, representing daily and monthly means (± standard deviation) of 3.1 ± 2.9 and 17.2 ± 9.6 events, respectively. Topography influenced the fastest, longest-lasting, and least frequent gusts but did not affect the more frequent, slower, and shorter ones. Elevated and relatively more exposed areas were particularly vulnerable to the speediest and longest-lasting WDP. The 87th percentile of rainfall rate (~0.7 mm min-1) correlated most strongly with the frequency and duration of observed events, highlighting the role of extreme rainfall in propagating destructive winds. Our findings indicate that WDP are more common during the transition from the dry to the wet season and confirm previous studies in different Amazon regions that extreme winds are important mechanisms of tree damage and mortality, influencing turbulence and associated processes like gas and energy fluxes.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3234', Anonymous Referee #1, 30 Nov 2024
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Please see comments in attached pdf file.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Luciano Emmert, 20 Dec 2024
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Dear Referee,
We thank you for your detailed review and important contributions to the improvement of the manuscript.
We are working on the revision and will send you a response as soon as possible.
Cordially,
Luciano EmmertCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-3234-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Luciano Emmert, 20 Dec 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3234', Anonymous Referee #2, 20 Dec 2024
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The manuscript by Emmert et al. investigates the frequency and magnitude of winds with potential to cause destruction to trees in a section of the Amazon forest. Their data are comprehensive, covering all seasons at three distinct sites: a plateau, a steep slope, and a valley. The authors employed statistical analyses to evaluate the relationships between wind gusts (magnitude and duration) and various factors such as seasonality (dry and wet seasons), time of day, tower location, and rainfall magnitude. Overall, the paper is easy to read, although the language could be refined in certain areas for better clarity. I find no issues with the experimental setup or the statistical analyses presented.
However, my main concern (or disappointment) lies in the lack of a connection between the results and windthrows. From the start of the paper, I was expecting the study to address questions such as: how strong or long-lasting do wind events need to be to cause significant tree damage in this location? Which site among the three studied locations is most prone to destruction? Addressing these questions would have provided a good closure to the introduction and significantly enhanced the paper’s impact. I understand that such events were not observed during the study period, which may indicate that the dataset was not ideal for this purpose, thus weakening the paper’s overall contribution.
On the same note, the abstract states “…confirm previous studies in different Amazon regions that extreme winds are important mechanisms of tree damage and mortality, influencing turbulence and associated processes like gas and energy fluxes...”. However, the results presented in the paper do not tackle these issues. As acknowledged by the authors, no tree damage or mortality was observed in the study area, and there were no analyses of fluxes conducted. Thus, I believe that the abstract does not fully represent the original findings of the paper.
As a suggestion, I believe that a potential way to enhance the paper would be to incorporate radar data to explore the spatial distribution of rainfall around the towers, potentially offering clues about where tree damage might have occurred. Such an analysis could provide indirect insights into the connection between microbursts/macrobursts and windthrows, which is currently missing from the study.
In summary, while the paper presents a solid analysis of wind characteristics in the Amazon forest, it lacks a clear link to the ecological implications of windthrows, which appears to be a central theme.
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Luciano Emmert, 20 Dec 2024
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Dear Referee,
We thank you for your detailed review and important contributions to the improvement of the manuscript.
We are working on the revision and will send you a response as soon as possible.
Cordially,
Luciano EmmertCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-3234-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Luciano Emmert, 20 Dec 2024
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