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Intercomparison of wind speed, temperature, and humidity data between dropsondes and aircraft in situ measurements
Abstract. Airborne measurements of winds, temperature (T), and relative humidity (RH) are critical due to their importance for atmospheric processes. Data quality from these in situ measurements is difficult to assess and requires independent observations. This work intercompares for the first time in situ measurements from the Turbulent Air Motion Measurement System (TAMMS) of horizontal winds and T, and a diode laser hygrometer (RH) deployed on a HU-25 Falcon flying mostly within the marine boundary layer over the northwest Atlantic to an independent set of measurements from dropsondes launched from a higher-flying King Air. Leveraging data from 162 joint flights from these two spatially coordinated aircraft during the NASA ACTIVATE campaign in winter and summer seasons between 2020–2022, a total of 555 pairs of Falcon-dropsonde data points are identified within 30 km horizontal separation, minimal vertical separation (usually < 1 m), and within 15 minutes. This analysis is based on the following range of conditions experienced: altitude = ~0.1–5 km; T = -19 – 27 °C; RH = 1 – 100 %; wind speed = 0.2 – 42 m s-1. Based on scatterplots, correlation coefficients, and mean (in situ – dropsonde) error (ME), intercomparisons reveal good agreement for wind speed (r = 0.95, ME = 0.21 ± 1.68 m s-1), the u/v wind components (r ~ 0.96–0.97, ME ~ 0.03 – 0.16 (± 1.62 – 1.67) m s-1), wind direction (r = 0.94, ME = 0.00 ± 0.22 based on cosine of direction angles), T (r = 0.99, ME = 0.00 ± 0.71 °C), and RH (r = 0.91, ME = -3.86 ± 10.74 %). Sensitivity analysis shows that binning data into categories of horizontal separation distance, clear versus cloud, winter versus summer, altitude range, and terciles of the values examined variables did not yield major changes except for RH where there was more deviation especially above 70 %. The effect of statistics was examined by relaxing the vertical separation distance criteria to expand the number of pairs to over 360,000, without much difference in intercomparison metrics. The effect of averaging more points for each instrument in the final 555 pairs was also shown to lead to minimal change in agreement. Overall, these results provide confidence in the performance of the various measurement techniques for airborne field campaigns.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3024', Anonymous Referee #1, 03 Jan 2025
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Review for the article „Intercomparison of wind speed, temperature, and humidity data between dropsondes and aircraft in situ measurements“
by Namdari et al.
The article presents an intercomparison of the parameters describing atmospheric dynamics (wind speed, wind direction, temperature and relative humidity) obtained by in-situ aircraft measurements and dropsondes at different altitudes above the North Atlantic. The authors use statistical methods to ensure a spatial and temporal collocation within strict limits to make the values comparable.
The topic is of high relevance, as static calibration of sensors in the laboratory is not sufficient to characterize and understand sensor behavior during flight conditions, and in particular wind measurement via five-hole probe and fusion with GNSS and IMU sensors cannot be calibrated in the lab.
Generally, such statistical intercomparison is important to assess data quality. However, in my opinion, statistical methods can only be applied after carefully checking sensors and methods and determining their uncertainty.
There are several aspects that strongly influence the data, and I would expect a thorough discussion before simply comparing the data sets.
Therefore, I suggest rejection of the manuscript in the current form. Taking into account the suggestions will take a lot of time and effort, so this cannot be done within a revised version.
Below are my major concerns, as well as smaller issues, with reference to the corresponding sections and lines.
Major comments:
- The article is about validating airborne in-situ measurements by dropsondes. Therefore, it is not helpful to discuss comparison between remote sensing/lidar and dropsondes, as done in the introduction and the conclusions, with a large literature review. Please either include lidar measurements in the analyses or omit it also in the introduction and conclusion. Also the literature review in the tables should have the focus on the topic of your article, not lidar/dropsonde comparison.
- Please include a thorough analysis of uncertainty of dropsondes and in-situ measurements, taking into account in particular sensor response time, see e.g. Bärfuss et al., 2018, and Bärfuss et al., 2023
- A common approach to calibrate wind speed for 5-hole sondes is to perform calibration manoeuvres, e.g. flying a square and checking if the wind speed and wind direction is the same for all flight directions. Please comment on this and how the data can be improved. Was this applied to your data set?
- If you discuss in situ wind measurements based on drones, please take into account the first articles about this topic, which include a thorough comparison with conventional measurement systems (tower, radiosonde, remote sensing), e.g. Martin et al., 2011
- It is good that you make use of measurements above the ocean, to have a larger spatial homogeneity. However, please characterize the atmospheric conditions, in particular stability. Up to which altitude does the top of the marine boundary layer reach? Maybe you can show vertical profiles of temperature or potential temperature at least for your case studies?
- Dropsonde data: according to l. 117, there were corrections and smooting algorithms applied. Please summarize shortly what was done to the data. This is highly important in this context.
- RH values above 100% were set to 100%. Please explain this. Why was the obviously erroneous data not corrected or excluded? What does this mean for uncertainty?
- According to l. 135, extensive calibrations were applied. Please summarize shortly.
- 138: “wind data derived from aircraft are sensitive to deviations away from straight and level flight conditions”: please quantify, and indicate how you treated this problem in the data analysis. What is “no rapid changes in altitude”? Please quantify.
- 145/146: The RH values have an uncertainty of 5%. Then the calculated RH values have a higher uncertainty? How were they calculated? Why is the uncertainty higher?
- What is the response time of your sensors, in particular humidity sensor of the radiosonde, and how was this compensated? Again, see publications of Bärfuss.
- What about the high variability of all the parameters within clouds? Could you do a statistics on the variability within cloud sections for straight and level flights? Does it really make sense to compare with values of radiosondes several km away and for temporal differences of several min? Generally I would expect a high variability of all parameters within clouds.
- You state that the altitude plays a major role. How do you determine altitude? It says in l. 208 that it is geopotential height. So probably it was calculated based on pressure data. What is the accuracy of the pressure sensor, in particular for the radiosonde? What does this mean in terms of uncertainty for the altitude?
- You state that RH is strongly dependent on temperature. So why don’t you use a different parameter for humidity, like the water vapour mixing ratio, which is independent of temperature?
- The examples in Fig. 4 and 5 indicate highly dynamic conditions. Maybe they are not so suitable as an illustration?
Minor comments:
- Differentiate between wind speed, wind direction and wind vector instead of simply using “wind” or even “winds”
- Do not use acronyms without explanation
- Put references in chronological order when citing them, e.g. l. 41, 42 Lewis and Schwartz, 2004, Nuijens and Stevens, 2012, Neukermans et al., 2018; throughout the manuscript
References:
Bärfuss, K., Pätzold, F., Altstädter, B., Kathe, E., Nowak, S., Bretschneider, L., Bestmann, U., and Lampert, A.: New Setup of the UAS ALADINA for Measuring Boundary Layer Properties, Atmospheric Particles and Solar Radiation, Atmosphere, 9, 28; doi:10.3390/atmos9010028, 21 pp., 2018.
Bärfuss, K. B., Schmithüsen, H., and Lampert, A.: Drone-based meteorological observations up to the tropopause – a concept study, Atmos. Meas. Tech., 16, 3739–3765, https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-16-3739-2023, 2023.
Martin, S., Bange, J., and Beyrich, F.: Meteorological profiling of the lower troposphere using the research UAV "M2AV Carolo", Atmos. Meas. Tech., 4, 705–716, https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-4-705-2011, 2011.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-3024-RC1
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