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Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in freshwater mineral soil wetlands
Abstract. For wetlands to serve as natural climate solutions, accurate estimates of organic carbon (OC) sequestration rates in wetland sediments are needed. Dating using cesium-137 (137Cs) and lead-210 (210Pb) radioisotopes is commonly used for measuring OC sequestration rates in wetland sediments. 137Cs radioisotope dating is relatively simple, with calculations based on a single point representing the onset (1954) or peak (1963) of the 137Cs fallout. 210Pb radioisotope dating is more complex as the calculations are based on multiple points. Here, we show that reliable dating of sediment cores collected from wetlands can be achieved using either 137Cs or 210Pb dating, or their combination. However, 137Cs and 210Pb profiles along the depth of sediment cores need to be screened, analyzed, and interpreted carefully to estimate OC sequestration rates with high precision. To this end, we propose a decision framework for screening 137Cs and 210Pb profiles into high- and low-quality sediment profiles, and we compare dating using the 1954 and 1963 time-markers. Our findings suggest that 137Cs- and 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates are comparable, especially when using the 1963 (vs. 1954) time-marker.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1162', Anonymous Referee #1, 27 Jun 2024
The paper "Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in freshwater mineral soil wetlands" by Mistry et al. evaluates the accuracy of an age model based on lead-210 and cesium-137 or the combination of both radionuclides for the reconstruction of organic carbon sequestration rates / stocks in Canada. In their paper, the authors evaluate the quality of the radionuclide profiles using a visual and statistical approach. On the selected profiles (classified as unperturbed), they compare the error associated with using the 1954 and 1963 time markers to establish age model in comparison to lead-210 age model for reconstructing the carbon sequestration rate.
The paper is interesting and well written, especially the discussion. The descriptions of the results were sometimes more complicated to follow. I have identified some points that should be clarified for the revised version.
- This paper is intended to be a 'technical note'. In my opinion, a technical note should be applicable worldwide. In the introduction, in Table 1 or again in the methods section, the authors mainly introduce 137Cs in North America (in the discussion they introduce Fukushima and Chernobyl peaks). This radionuclide has some specificities around the world that need to be introduced for a technical note. It will also be interesting to introduce and discuss other complementary approaches that can help to identify the 137Cs, the advantages, disadvantage of these techniques (e.g. Pu isotopes) or again the 'classic' combination of 137Cs and 210Pb to establish an age model.
- If I understand correctly, the authors compare the efficiency of both 137Cs age models (using 1954 and/or 1963 peaks) with the 210Pb model after the identification of ‘high-quality profiles’. To me, these two approaches are complementary. Most studies using lake sediments, for example, validate their 210Pb age model by comparing the continuous lead chronology with the 137Cs peaks (1954 and 1963). The authors state that they use this combination, but this information is not clearly stated in the text (or I may have misunderstood them). Do they compare the validity of the 210Pb models in the conventional way (I don't think so) or simply by comparing the 137Cs and 210Pb profiles, which they think are of good quality?
- At various points in the manuscript, the authors emphasize the simplicity of measuring 137Cs compared with 210Pb. This statement is true if researchers use alpha spectrometry, but as reported in some recent reviews (cited by the authors), studies using alpha spectrometry are decreasing, while gamma spectrometry is increasingly used. This technique makes it easy to obtain 137Cs, 210Pb and 241Am. At the end of the introduction, the authors state that "this study helps to reduce the uncertainty in studies that rely on 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating". If you have access to both radionuclides with gamma spectrometry, you don't have to choose between the two because you have access to both radionuclides. The authors should justify why it is important to be able to run the lead-210 and 137Cs models separately.
- The authors of this paper have done important field and analytical work that deserves to be published in an open access database. This will allow other researchers to evaluate their work and share these data with the community. I recommend that the authors make this dataset available for the revised version.
I recommend publishing this article after revision.
General comments :
- Line 13: replace measuring with reconstructing ?
- Line 14: You mention 'a single point' when you actually mention two in the rest of the sentence (1954 and 1963). There may be other regional peaks (1986, 2011) or even more local ones.
- Line 19: You compare your 137Cs age models with the 210Pbxs age model? How?
- Line 24: Perhaps a broader view here to introduce the importance of your topic? Area occupied by these wetlands in the world, Canada, etc.? Data about carbon sequestration by these wetlands?
- Line 25: critical -> important?
- Line 40: formed -> produced during?
- Line 41: 1963 in the northern hemisphere. What about the southern hemisphere? If the article is to be a technical note applicable worldwide, it needs to give a more global view of 137Cs fallout (not just the 1963 peak).
- Line 44: 1954 and 1963 - 1954 or 1963. Most publications using the 137Cs age model use both the 1954 and 1963 time points to construct their age models. When using two time points, the sedimentation rate is not always (often) constant.
- Lines 47-48: In Europe the story is more complex and it is sometimes difficult to distinguish the 1963 peak from the 1986 peak. Authors should introduce additional markers (241Am, Pu isotopes) to help distinguish these peaks and avoid errors in age modeling.
- Line 54: I don't agree that the 210Pb models are "complicated", as the authors have already stated in the abstract. Lead models provide complementary information than 137Cs age models. There are many R codes that facilitate the establishment of 210Pb models (e.g. SERAC model, Bruel and Sabatier, 2020).
- Line 64: remove 'for’
- Line 67: or mass accumulation rate?
- Line 70: only cite Appleby and Odfield?
- Line 71: In my opinion, 137Cs provide temporal markers as mentioned by the author, but not 210Pbex, which provides a continuous age model. The 137Cs help to validate the 210Pb model.
- Line 77: If you do gamma spectrometry, you get both210Pbex, which provides a continuous age model. The 137Cs help to validate the 210Pb model.
- Line 77: If you perform gamma spectrometry you obtain both 137Cs and 210Pb (and 241Am) and you don’t have any extra cost, time and specialized equipment.
- Line 85: change intact through undisturbed?
- Lines 86-87: methods?
- Line 94: This figure should be in the main manuscript.
- Line 95: change 'intact’ by undisturbed ?
- Lines 114-119: the authors must discuss what can change the shape of these peaks (e.g. bioturbation, erosion phenomena, deposition of 137Cs-labelled particles, climatic events, ...), see existing bibliographic reviews.
- Line 140: The authors should describe where these reference samples were collected and describe the environment (e.g. undisturbed grassland?). Authors use one reference core per site? This part was not clear for me
- Line 164: Use organic carbon instead of OC in the title.
- Line 169: the authors should explain how they get from g.cm2.year to Mg.ha.year-1 (representativeness of the core to extrapolate the value to the ha scale?)
- Line 171 - 173: why do the authors not use the 241Am to more clearly identify the 1963 peak (when the shape of the peak is not clear)? If they are not sure about the peak, why not use the onset of 137Cs in 1954 instead of remove the profile from their selection (maybe I don’t have understand here)?
- Line 178: if you use density correction to build your age models, you should describe it in this section.
- Line 230: repositioned? what does that mean?
- Line 231: How do the authors explain the high stocks of these cores? Are these cores in an accumulation area?
- Lines 257-259: This part corresponds to the methodology already described in the Materials and Methods section. I will delete it from the results
- Line 310: To the best of my knowledge, you need a complete decay profile to apply the CRS model, it's the same for the CFCS model? Can you give a reference for this statement?
- Line 311: I didn't understand if you corrected your 210Pb age model with density to avoid perturbations/inconsistencies/soil properties? please clarify.
- Line 326: Fukushima and Chernobyl releases are not 'less', just not recorded in North American lakes or wetlands to the best of my knowledge.
- Line 331: continuous age model instead of 'can provide multiple time markers?
- Line 345 : references for this statement?
- Line 361: It was not possible to collect a reference site near each wetland?
- In section 4.1, the authors should discuss alternative methods that may help to identify the peak of 137Cs (e.g. Pu isotopes).
- Lines 383-386: very long sentence...
- Line 416: in the last century?
- Table 1: Why mention only the 1963 peak if your article is a technical note? Why not present the other peaks (sources of 137Cs) that could be found in other regions of the world? The 1963 peak, which is generally not dated to 1963 in the southern hemisphere? Why not include 241Am, which you may have in your gamma measurements and which may be useful in age modeling? These concepts need to be explained somewhere in your manuscript.
- Figures 2; 3: Mass or mass depth?
- Table 3: Most of the disadvantages of the 210Pb listed in this table are related to the alpha spectrometry method, but the 210Pb can also be measured by gamma spectrometry, which is easier to use.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-1162-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Irena Creed, 06 Aug 2024
Response to comments of reviewer #1:
Note that the reviewer’s original comments are in italics.
The paper "Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in freshwater mineral soil wetlands" by Mistry et al. evaluates the accuracy of an age model based on lead-210 and cesium-137 or the combination of both radionuclides for the reconstruction of organic carbon sequestration rates / stocks in Canada. In their paper, the authors evaluate the quality of the radionuclide profiles using a visual and statistical approach. On the selected profiles (classified as unperturbed), they compare the error associated with using the 1954 and 1963 time markers to establish age model in comparison to lead-210 age model for reconstructing the carbon sequestration rate.
The paper is interesting and well written, especially the discussion. The descriptions of the results were sometimes more complicated to follow. I have identified some points that should be clarified for the revised version. This paper is intended to be a 'technical note'. In my opinion, a technical note should be applicable worldwide. In the introduction, in Table 1 or again in the methods section, the authors mainly introduce 137Cs in North America (in the discussion they introduce Fukushima and Chernobyl peaks). This radionuclide has some specificities around the world that need to be introduced for a technical note. It will also be interesting to introduce and discuss other complementary approaches that can help to identify the 137Cs, the advantages, disadvantage of these techniques (e.g. Pu isotopes) or again the 'classic' combination of 137Cs and 210Pb to establish an age model.
Authors’ Response:
The focus of our research is soil erosion and sedimentation within North America, which is only one region of the world. We have looked for evidence from Chernobyl and Fukushima 137Cs deposition events, but have not found any secondary peaks or elevated levels of activity in our research. Although there may be challenges applying our study to some parts of the world, we believe that the information is generally applicable and valuable for consideration in all regions. We would encourage others to further develop this approach for use in other regions where its application is not ideally suited. This point is also addressed in a few of our responses to the reviewer’s comments below.
The focus of our research is on the inter-comparability of 137Cs and 210Pb in order to be able to bring data that are 137Cs or 210Pb together. The reviewer is correct that the ideal is to use 137Cs and 210Pb in combination. However, in the number of sediment cores collected in this study (90), the 137Cs profile was of high-quality at times but the 210Pb was not, and vice versa. In these cases, we wanted to explore the use of single tracer. Clearly, it is best to use both in tandem, to have 137Cs support the 210Pb dating.
The reviewer raises the potential of using Pu isotopes. Like 137Cs, Plutonium-239+240 (239+240Pu) is a product of anthropogenic activities associated with nuclear bomb testing with a peak around 1963 similar to 137Cs. There are some advantages and disadvantages associated with 239+240Pu compared to 137Cs, summarized below.
Advantages
- 239+240Pu has a longer half life (24,110 years for 239Pu and 6,561 years for 240Pu) compared to 137Cs with a half-life of 30.2 years, hence approaching detection limits and potential obsolescence (Drexler et al., 2018). So 239+240Pu will continue to be reliably used for a much longer time unlike 137
- Less time consuming if 239+240Pu is analyzed using ICP-MS or Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS) which takes minutes instead of hours that it takes to analyze 137Cs using gamma spectroscopy (Mabit et al., 2018).
- Smaller soil volume needed for analysis (Meusburger et al., 2023)
More relevant to Southern hemisphere location which received low initial 137Cs fallout (Tims et al., 2010) due to the longer half life of 239+240Pu compared to 137Cs
- Much more 239+240Pu was deposited compared to 137Cs (up to six times more), hence much more viable for measurements (i.e., more is always better for measurement).
- Background free, and therefore yielding results that are more precise than obtained for 137Cs (Fifield, 2008).
Disadvantages of 239+240Pu compared to 137Cs
- 239+240Pu is more suitable for field scale measurements while 137Cs is suitable for larger scales from plots to large watersheds, giving it larger applicability.
- While both 137Cs and 210Pb can be derived from gamma spectroscopy, 239+240Pu requires ICP-MS, alpha spectrometry or accelerator mass spectrometry, therefore there is no option of acquiring both 239+240Pu and 210Pb from a single run of sample (i.e., there will always be an additional cost and time if used to validate 210Pb).
We will include in a revised manuscript, the following statement: “Plutonium (Pu) may replace 137Cs in the future due to concerns of half-life and persistence as a dating tool. In essence, 239+240Pu has the same source and deposition mechanism as 137Cs. Its longer half-life will simply make its peak measurable when 137Cs is no longer measurable.”
Citations
Drexler, J.Z., Fuller C.C., and Archfield S.: The approaching obsolescence of 137Cs dating of wetland soils in North America, Quaternary Science Reviews, 199: 83 – 96, doi:10.1016/j.quascirev.2018.08.028, 2018.
Mabit, L., Bernard, C., Yi, A.L.Z., Fulajtar, E., Dercon, G., Zaman, M., Toloza, A., Heng, L.: Promoting the use of isotopic techniques to combat soil erosion: An overview of the key role played by the SWMCN subprogramme of the Joint FAO/IAEA division over the last 20 years, Land Degradation and Development, VOLUME, 1-15. doi:10.1002/ldr.3016, 2018.
Meusburger, K., Porto, P., Waldis, J.K., and Alewell, C.: Validating plutonium-239+249 as a novel soil redistribution tracer – a comparison to measured sediment yield, Soil, 9: 399 – 409. doi:10.5194/soil-9-399-2023, 2023.
Fifield, L. K.: Accelerator mass spectrometry of the actinides, Quaternary Geochronology, 3: 276-290. doi:10.1016/j.quageo.2007.10.003, 2008.
Tims, S.G., Everett S.E., Fifield L.K., Hancock G.J., and Bartley, R.: Plutonium as a tracer of soil and sediment movement in the Herbert River, Australia, Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research 268: 1150 – 1154. doi:10.1016/j.nimb.2009.10.121, 2010.
If I understand correctly, the authors compare the efficiency of both 137Cs age models (using 1954 and/or 1963 peaks) with the 210Pb model after the identification of ‘high-quality profiles’. To me, these two approaches are complementary. Most studies using lake sediments, for example, validate their 210Pb age model by comparing the continuous lead chronology with the 137Cs peaks (1954 and 1963). The authors state that they use this combination, but this information is not clearly stated in the text (or I may have misunderstood them). Do they compare the validity of the 210Pb models in the conventional way (I don't think so) or simply by comparing the 137Cs and 210Pb profiles, which they think are of good quality?
Authors’ Response:
We agree. As noted in our responses to the reviewer’s comments below, the 210Pb and 137Cs techniques are complementary, providing different methods of dating sediments. 210Pb provides a more complex result, using a constant supply rate model to reveal trends in sedimentation, whereas 137Cs provides a simple result (i.e., an average sedimentation rate). Together, they provide a more robust means of dating sediments.
However, the focus of our research was to explore the possibility of using them interchangeably. Not all cores provide high quality 137Cs and 210Pb data for the purposes of dating, so having multiple techniques increases the utility of sediment cores that are collected, often at great expense. That is, if one of the two radioisotopes has a high-quality profile while the other one does not, either could be used to maximize the data of interest (in our case, organic carbon (OC) sequestration rate), instead of discarding a core because one of the radioisotopes is undesirable.
Having multiple techniques raises the obvious question, “Which is better?”. In our paper, we do not intend to identify which technique is better; we are attempting instead to compare the two techniques, highlighting the pros and cons of each, and assessing the degree to which they can be used interchangeably when one may not apply to a given core. Also, as noted in our responses below, we don’t view 137Cs data as a means to validate 210Pb results. Our perspective is that 210Pb and 137Cs provide two different measures of sedimentation rate—separate, but complementary—providing a better understanding of the sedimentation history.
At various points in the manuscript, the authors emphasize the simplicity of measuring 137Cs compared with 210Pb. This statement is true if researchers use alpha spectrometry, but as reported in some recent reviews (cited by the authors), studies using alpha spectrometry are decreasing, while gamma spectrometry is increasingly used. This technique makes it easy to obtain 137Cs, 210Pb and 241Am. At the end of the introduction, the authors state that "this study helps to reduce the uncertainty in studies that rely on 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating". If you have access to both radionuclides with gamma spectrometry, you don't have to choose between the two because you have access to both radionuclides. The authors should justify why it is important to be able to run the lead-210 and 137Cs models separately.
Authors’ Response:
A good question, why do we use both alpha and gamma spectroscopy when both 210Pb and 137Cs can be measured using gamma? This is addressed in our responses to the comments below. In brief, the quality of data for 210Pb using gamma spectroscopy is not as good as 137Cs, and, the analytical requirements are substantially greater. Even with the best equipment and analytical procedures for measuring 210Pb with gamma, we often use alpha spectroscopy to confirm gamma measures and generate better data. In our laboratory we have many gamma and alpha spectrometers, so we have the luxury to use both.
The authors of this paper have done important field and analytical work that deserves to be published in an open access database. This will allow other researchers to evaluate their work and share these data with the community. I recommend that the authors make this dataset available for the revised version.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this comment. We have provided a summary of our analyses in this manuscript, and we are preparing an extensive data report for publication.
I recommend publishing this article after revision.
General comments:
Line 13: replace measuring with reconstructing?
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for the suggestion. As we are measuring rates of sedimentation and OC accumulation in the sediments, we have opted to stay with the word “measuring”.
Line 14: You mention 'a single point' when you actually mention two in the rest of the sentence (1954 and 1963). There may be other regional peaks (1986, 2011) or even more local ones.
Authors’ Response:
It is true that there may be regional peaks, or even local variations in peaks. There are two time-markers or points-of-interest associated with 137Cs fallout: the onset and the peak. Atmospheric deposition has varied over time and around the globe. In the Americas, 137Cs deposition has been dominated by the thermonuclear activity between 1958 and 1963. This deposition has not been uniform, and regional and local variation is associated with variation in weather (wind and precipitation) during that period. In our studies in Central and South America, 137Cs levels are about one half of those in North America due to historical global weather patterns. We have also observed the local influence of rain shadowing by mountains. So, we agree that 137Cs deposition is regional and there is potential for regionally specific peaks. For this reason, we use non-eroded reference field sites to deal with regional variation in deposition, and we use multiple local sampling sites and repeated sampling (changes in values over time) to deal with local variation in deposition. We have looked for evidence from Chernobyl and Fukushima events but have not found any secondary peaks or elevated levels of activity in our research in the Americas.
Since Line 14 is in the abstract we will add the following text to the Discussion section in the revised manuscript to clarify: “Recognizing that there may be regional or local variation in peaks, we used non-eroded 137Cs reference sites to deal with regional variation in deposition, and we used multiple sampling sites within wetlands to assess local variation in deposition. Further, we looked for evidence from Chernobyl and Fukushima nuclear events in our data but found none (data not shown).”
Line 19: You compare your 137Cs age models with the 210Pbxs age model? How?
Authors’ Response:
It would be more accurate to state that 137Cs provides a measure of the average rate of sedimentation between the 137Cs time markers (1954 and 1963) and the date of sampling, whereas 210Pbex uses a continuous rate of supply model to provide an estimate of sedimentation over time prior to the date of sampling. These rates of sedimentation, although very different in their means of determination, can be compared in the context of their periods of interest. In our study, we are interested in the rates of sedimentation over the past ~60 years.
We will revise the text in the revised manuscript:
Original: “To this end, we propose a decision framework for screening 137Cs and 210Pb profiles into high- and low-quality sediment profiles, and we compare dating using the 1954 and 1963 time-markers.”
Revised: “To this end, we propose a decision framework for screening 137Cs and 210Pb profiles into high- and low-quality sediment profiles, and we compare dating using the 1954 and 1963 time-markers, i.e., the rates of sedimentation and, consequently, OC sequestration over the past ~60 years.”
Line 24: Perhaps a broader view here to introduce the importance of your topic? Area occupied by these wetlands in the world, Canada, etc.? Data about carbon sequestration by these wetlands?
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for your suggestion.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “Wetlands in agricultural landscapes serve a crucial role in providing habitat for wildlife, regulating climate, improving water quality, and preventing floods. Moreover, these wetlands have the potential to sequester organic carbon (OC), making them candidates to be natural climate solutions by offsetting carbon emissions. To estimate the OC sequestration potential, it is critical to establish precise measurements to quantify wetland OC sequestration, develop strategies to promote conservation and restoration efforts, incorporate carbon credits in the carbon markets, and validate the wetland-based ecosystem services.”
Revised: “Wetlands in agricultural landscapes serve a crucial role in providing habitat for wildlife, regulating climate, improving water quality, and reducing floods. Moreover, these wetlands have the potential to sequester organic carbon (OC), making them candidates to be natural climate solutions by offsetting carbon emissions. These wetlands embedded in agricultural landscapes are recognized as temperate inland wetland soils. The global carbon stock of temperate inland wetland soils is estimated to be 46 Pg C to a 2 m depth, while Canada’s temperate inland wetland soils are estimated to contain 4.6 Pg C (Bridgham et al., 2006.Compared to peatlands, the rapid rate of OC sequestration and the larger spatial extent of temperate inland wetland soils can help contribute significantly to regional or national carbon sequestration (Bridgham et al., 2006; Nahlik and Fennessey, 2016).
Canada encompasses around 25% of the world's wetlands, with an area of approximately 1.29 million square kilometers, which accounts for 13% of the country's terrestrial area (Environment and Climate Change Canada, 2016), highlighting the global importance of these wetlands.
Unfortunately, there is extremely limited data on the OC sequestration rates in these wetlands. To estimate the OC sequestration potential of these wetlands, it is critical to establish precise measurements to quantify wetland OC sequestration, develop strategies to promote conservation and restoration efforts, incorporate carbon credits in the carbon markets, and validate the wetland-based ecosystem services.”
Citations:
Bridgham, S. D., Megonigal, J. P., Keller, J. K., Bliss, N. B., and Trettin, C.: The carbon balance of North American wetlands, Wetlands, 26(4), 889-916, doi:10.1672/0277-5212(2006)26[889:TCBONA]2.0.CO;2, 2006.
Environment and Climate Change Canada (ECCC): Canadian Environmental Sustainability Indicators: Extent of Canada's Wetlands, ECCC, Gatineau, Quebec, www.ec.gc.ca/indicateurs-indicators/default.asp?lang=en&n=69E2D25B-1, last access: 10 July 2024, 2016.
Nahlik, A. M. and Fennessy, M. S.: Carbon storage in US wetlands. Nature Communications, 7(1), 1-9, doi:10.1038/ncomms13835, 2016.
Line 25: critical -> important?
Authors’ Response:
We will replace the word “critical” by the word “important”.
Line 40: formed -> produced during?
Authors’ Response:
We will replace the world “formed” by the phrase “produced during”.
Line 41: 1963 in the northern hemisphere. What about the southern hemisphere? If the article is to be a technical note applicable worldwide, it needs to give a more global view of 137Cs fallout (not just the 1963 peak).
Authors’ Response:
We agree that it would be ideal if this technical note provided a more global view. Although there may be challenges applying our study to some parts of the world, we believe that the information is generally applicable and valuable for consideration in all regions. We encourage others to further develop this approach for use in other regions where its application is not ideally suited.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “137Cs is an artificial radioisotope which was formed due to thermonuclear bomb testing in the 1950s and 1960s, with the onset of atmospheric deposition in 1954 and a peak in 1963 (Ritchie and McHenry, 1990).”
Revised: “137Cs is an artificial radioisotope that was produced during thermonuclear bomb testing in the 1950s and 1960s, with the onset of atmospheric deposition in 1954 and a peak in 1963 (Ritchie and McHenry, 1990). Although there may be challenges applying our study to some parts of the world, we believe that the information is generally applicable and valuable for consideration in all regions. We encourage others to further customize this approach for use in other regions where Cs deposition histories vary.”
Line 44: 1954 and 1963 - 1954 or 1963. Most publications using the 137Cs age model use both the 1954 and 1963 time points to construct their age models. When using two time points, the sedimentation rate is not always (often) constant.
Authors’ Response:
It is true that when using two time points, the sedimentation rate is not always constant. Using the two time-markers for 137Cs, we do not expect the sedimentation rates to be equal as there may be differences associated with the processes operating between 1954 and 1963. However, we do expect the sedimentation rates to be similar. This redundancy in measurement is largely a means to deal with the uncertainties in identifying either time-marker alone.
We also recognize that the sedimentation rate between sampling and 1954 and 1963 will not likely be constant. Much of the sedimentation that occurs in these wetlands is impacted by the land use and land management practices in the catchments that surround them, and that land use and land management has changed significantly over that 60-year time period. This is why we couple 137Cs with 210Pb techniques.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: ”137Cs dating assumes constant sedimentation rates measured since 1954 and 1963.”
Revised: “137Cs dating assumes constant sedimentation rates measured since 1954 or 1963. In using the two time-markers for 137Cs, we do not expect the sedimentation rates to be equal but we do expect them to be similar.”
Lines 47-48: In Europe the story is more complex and it is sometimes difficult to distinguish the 1963 peak from the 1986 peak. Authors should introduce additional markers (241Am, Pu isotopes) to help distinguish these peaks and avoid errors in age modeling.
Authors’ Response:
We have the capacity to analyze 239+240Pu with alpha spectroscopy, and we are moving to that isotope as a replacement for 137Cs as 137Cs levels diminish (30.18-year half-life versus 6,000+ year half-life). In the Americas, we do not see evidence of the 1986 137Cs peak which is observed in Europe, so we have not used Pu to distinguish the 1986 137Cs peak from the 1963 peak.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “137Cs has an additional time-marker for Europe in 1986 due to the Chernobyl nuclear accident and for Japan in 2011 due to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident (Foucher et al., 2021), indicating that OC sequestration estimates can be derived for different timescales.”
Revised: “137Cs has an additional time-marker for Europe in 1986 due to the Chernobyl nuclear accident and for Japan in 2011 due to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident (Foucher et al., 2021), indicating that OC sequestration estimates can be derived for different timescales. In the Americas, we do not see evidence of the 1986 or 2011 137Cs peaks which are observed in Europe and Japan, respectively, so we did not need to use other radioisotope techniques (e.g., 239+240Pu) to distinguish the 1986 or 2011 137Cs peak from the 1963 137Cs peak.”
Line 54: I don't agree that the 210Pb models are "complicated", as the authors have already stated in the abstract. Lead models provide complementary information than 137Cs age models. There are many R codes that facilitate the establishment of 210Pb models (e.g. SERAC model, Bruel and Sabatier, 2020).
Authors’ Response:
We agree that the 210Pb and 137Cs techniques are complementary, providing different methods of dating sediments. 210Pb provides a more complex result, using a supply rate model to reveal trends in sedimentation, whereas 137Cs provides a simple result, an average sedimentation rate. Neither method is complicated.
We will clarify the text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “137C dating calculations are less complicated than 210Pb, with little modelling knowledge or expertise needed (Breithaupt et al., 2018).”
Revised: “137Cs dating provides a simple result (an average sedimentation rate), while 210Pb dating provides a more complex result (using a supply rate model to reveal trends in sedimentation rates).”
Line 64: remove 'for’
Authors’ Response:
The word “for” will be removed in the revised manuscript.
Line 67: or mass accumulation rate?
Authors’ Response:
Yes. We will replace “sediment accumulation rate” with “mass accumulation rate”.
Line 70: only cite Appleby and Odfield?
Authors’ Response:
Yes. We will remove the other citations, citing only Appleby and Oldfield (1978) as suggested.
Line 71: In my opinion, 137Cs provide temporal markers as mentioned by the author, but not 210Pbex, which provides a continuous age model. The 137Cs help to validate the 210Pb model.
Authors’ Response:
We agree.
We will clarify by adding the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “Both 137Cs and 210Pb provide suitable time-markers and a longer time horizon compared to direct measurements using the time-marker of horizons (2-10 years) to study sediment accretion and, subsequently, OC sequestration rates in wetlands (Bernal and Mitsch, 2013; Villa and Bernal, 2018).”
Revised: “Both 137Cs and 210Pb provide suitable time-markers and a longer time horizon compared to direct measurements using the time-marker of horizons (2-10 years) to study sediment accretion and, subsequently, OC sequestration rates in wetlands (Bernal and Mitsch, 2013; Villa and Bernal, 2018). In this study, we compared the average OC sequestration rate derived from 137Cs temporal markers with the progressive OC sequestration rates derived using a constant rate of supply model applied to 210Pb.”
Line 77: If you do gamma spectrometry, you get both210Pbex, which provides a continuous age model. The 137Cs help to validate the 210Pb model.
Authors’ Response:
We agree. See next response.
Line 77: If you perform gamma spectrometry you obtain both 137Cs and 210Pb (and 241Am) and you don’t have any extra cost, time and specialized equipment.
Authors’ Response:
Using the most common gamma spectrometers (Coaxial Ge—old technology), there is greater uncertainty (smaller peak resolution) in the low energy region of the spectrum (< 100 keV) where 210Pb is measured, relative to 137Cs (662 keV). In our laboratory, we use more recent technology, BEGe gamma spectrometers, which provide a broader range of high efficiency across the spectrum, allowing reasonably accurate measurement of both 137Cs and 210Pb.
Even with the newer technology, we find that performing gamma spectrometry on 210Pb takes extra time and cost. The prepared samples must be sealed for weeks before analysis of 210Pb by gamma spectrometry; these sealed samples are necessarily small and, therefore, take longer to analyze (24-36 hrs for 210Pb vs. 12-16 hrs for 137Cs), which represents additional cost. In contrast, when we analyze for 137Cs only, samples can be large and can be analyzed relatively quickly.
Further, in our experience, there is much greater uncertainty in 210Pb results than 137Cs results using gamma spectrometry, and we often use alpha spectroscopy to corroborate 210Pb results.
In this manuscript, we don’t view 137Cs data as a means to validate 210Pb results. Our perspective is that 210Pb and 137Cs provide two different measures of sedimentation rate—separate, but complementary—providing a better understanding of the sedimentation history.
Line 85: change intact through undisturbed?
Authors’ Response:
We will change “intact” to “undisturbed”.
Lines 86-87: methods?
Authors’ Response:
We will move lines 86-87 to the “Methods” in the revised manuscript.
Line 94: This figure should be in the main manuscript.
Authors’ Response:
We will move the map (Supplementary Figure 1) to the main manuscript.
Line 95: change 'intact’ by undisturbed ?
Authors’ Response:
We will change “intact” to “undisturbed.
Lines 114-119: the authors must discuss what can change the shape of these peaks (e.g. bioturbation, erosion phenomena, deposition of 137Cs-labelled particles, climatic events, ...), see existing bibliographic reviews.
Authors’ Response:
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
“The magnitude and shape of the 137Cs peaks observed in the sediments can be affected by the rate of atmospheric deposition of 137Cs, which is obviously affected by the number and magnitude of emission events as well as the weather conditions following these events (UNSCEAR, 2000). The magnitude and shape of these peaks are also impacted by the movement of water and sediment within the catchment of each wetland during the development of the peaks (Milan et al., 1995; Zarrinabadi et al., 2023). Here, changes in the shape of the peaks are caused by upward and downward movement of the sediment within the sediment profile (the movement of 137Cs through diffusion (Klaminder et al., 2012) is presumed negligible). Any form of bioturbation can cause an upward and downward mixing of the 137Cs in the profile, resulting in the attenuation of the peak (Robbins et al., 1977). Even wave action during the period of atmospheric deposition will have a similar attenuation effect (Andersen et al., 2000; Zarrinabadi et al., 2023). Following peak atmospheric deposition, soil erosion and the accumulation of sediment will deliver sediments to the top of the profile, and those sediments may be higher or lower in concentration depending on the degree of preferential sediment transport and the associate enrichment or depletion of 137Cs in the added sediment (Zarrinabadi et al., 2023).”
Citations:
Andersen, T. J., Mikkelsen, O. A., Møller, A. L., and Pejrup, M.: Deposition and mixing depths on some European intertidal mudflats based on 210Pb and 137Cs activities, Continental Shelf Research, 20(12-13), 1569-1591, doi: 10.1016/S0278-4343(00)00038-8, 2000.
Milan, C. S., Swenson, E. M., Turner, R. E., and Lee, J. M.: Assessment of the method for estimating sediment accumulation rates: Louisiana salt marshes, Journal of Coastal Research, 296-307, https://www.jstor.org/stable/4298341, 1995.
Robbins, J.A., Krezoski, J.R. and Mozley, S.C.: Radioactivity in sediments of the Great Lakes: post-depositional redistribution by deposit-feeding organisms, Earth Planet. Sci. Lett., 36, 325–333, doi: 10.1016/0012-821X(77)90217-5, 1977.
Klaminder, J., Appleby, P., Crook, P., and Renberg, I.: Post-deposition diffusion of 137Cs in lake sediment: Implications for radiocaesium dating, Sedimentology, 59: 2259–2267, doi:10.1111/j.1365-3091.2012.01343.x, 2012.
United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR), 2000. Sources and Effects of Ionizing Radiation, V1, United Nations, New York, doi:10.18356/49c437f9-en, 2000.
Zarrinabadi, E., Lobb, D. A., Enanga, E., Badiou, P., and Creed, I. F.: Agricultural activities lead to sediment infilling of wetlandscapes in the Canadian Prairies: Assessment of soil erosion and sedimentation fluxes, Geoderma, 436, 116525, doi:10.1016/j.geoderma.2023.116525, 2023.
Line 140: The authors should describe where these reference samples were collected and describe the environment (e.g. undisturbed grassland?). Authors use one reference core per site? This part was not clear for me
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this suggestion. The details of the number of reference sites used to generate reference 137Cs estimates are provided below which can also be found in the corresponding citation.
For the 3 wetlands in AB (53° N and 113° W)—2 reference sites used (a total of 24 sediment cores) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Zarrinabadi et al., 2023).
For the 7 wetlands in SK (51° N and 107° W)—1 reference site used (a total of 3 sediment cores dividing into 20 samples) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Sutherland, 1991).
For the 9 wetlands in SK (51° N and 104° W)—1 reference site used (a total of 3 sediment cores dividing into 20 samples) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Sutherland, 1991).
For the 5 wetlands in MB (50° N and 100° W)—3 reference sites used (a total of 27 sediment cores) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Zarrinabadi et al., 2023).
For the 3 wetlands in ON (43.3° N and 80.3° W)—1 reference site used (a total of 18 sediment cores compositing into 2 samples) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Kachanoski and Von Bertoldi, 1996).
For the 3 wetlands in ON (45.6° N and 74.8° W)—1 reference site used (a total of 18 sediment cores compositing into 2 samples) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Kachanoski and Von Bertoldi, 1996).
We have been successful in using catchment budgeting as an alternative method of establishing reference 137Cs values for specific wetlands, but this is far more time consuming and expensive than the standard approach.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript where we describe the environment and estimated location (from our wetland sites) of the reference sites:
“Ideally, reference sites are large, open, level, non-eroded area, usually in forage or grassland since the 1950s, and within 10 km of the site of interest. In this study, it was not possible to identify a suitable reference site near every wetland; in fact, it is normally extremely difficult to find reference sites in agricultural landscapes. However, we were able to identify reference sites used in other studies within 50 kms except nine wetlands in SK (51° N and 104° W)) which were ~150 kms away from the reference site. Although this was not considered ideal, it was considered acceptable.”
We will also revise 137Cs reference inventory values the in the Discussion section of the revised manuscript to present 137Cs reference inventory values near our wetland sites. As mentioned earlier, details on the reference sites can be found in the corresponding citation.
“The mean 137Cs reference inventory values in the four provinces of Canada where our wetland sites are located were used in this instance. The mean 137Cs reference inventory value estimated to be 1,684 Bq m-2 (coefficient of variation (CV) = 49%) for three AB wetland sites (53° N and 113° W) (Zarrinabadi et al. 2023), 989 Bq m-2 (CV = 20.5%) for seven SK wetland sites (51° N and 107° W) (Sutherland, 1991), 1,008 Bq m-2 (CV = 17.9%) for nine SK wetland sites (51° N and 104° W) (Sutherland, 1991), 1,430 Bq m-2 (CV = 8.6%) for five MB wetland sites (50° N and 100° W) (Zarrinabadi et al. 2023), 1,447 Bq m-2 (CV = 8.8%) for three ON wetland sites (43.3° N and 80.3° W) (Kachanoski and Von Bertoldi, 1996) and 1,534 Bq m-2 (CV = 1.75%) for three ON wetland sites (45.6° N and 74.8° W) (Kachanoski and Von Bertoldi, 1996).”
Citations:
Kachanoski, R. G. and Von Bertoldi, P.: Monitoring soil loss and redistribution using 137Cs, COESA Report No. RES/MON-008/96, Green Plan Research Sub-program, Agriculture and Agri-food Canada, London, Ontario, 1996.
Sutherland, R. A.: Examination of caesium-137 areal activities in control (uneroded) locations, Soil technology, 4(1), 33-50, doi:10.1016/0933-3630(91)90038-O, 1991.
Zarrinabadi, E., Lobb, D. A., Enanga, E., Badiou, P., and Creed, I. F.: Agricultural activities lead to sediment infilling of wetlandscapes in the Canadian Prairies: Assessment of soil erosion and sedimentation fluxes, Geoderma, 436, 116525, doi:10.1016/j.geoderma.2023.116525, 2023.
Line 164: Use organic carbon instead of OC in the title.
Authors’ Response:
We will replace “OC” with “organic carbon” in the title.
Line 169: the authors should explain how they get from g.cm2.year to Mg.ha.year-1 (representativeness of the core to extrapolate the value to the ha scale?)
Authors’ Response:
Here, we multiplied g cm-2 yr --1 by 100 to get to Mg ha-1 yr-1.
We reported the data in Mg ha-1 yr-1 since it is widely used standardized unit to report OC sequestration rate data allowing comparability with other studies.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
“Here, unit conversion is applied to report OC sequestration rate estimates in Mg ha-1 yr-1 from g cm-2 yr-1 for easy standardization and comparability with other studies.”
Line 171 - 173: why do the authors not use the 241Am to more clearly identify the 1963 peak (when the shape of the peak is not clear)? If they are not sure about the peak, why not use the onset of 137Cs in 1954 instead of remove the profile from their selection (maybe I don’t have understand here)?
Authors’ Response:
We recognize the potential for the use of 241Am as an alternative to 137Cs, but we are moving towards 239+240Pu as an alternative. 241Am has similar challenges as 210Pb measured using gamma spectrometry: 241Am is detected in the low-energy range of the spectrum where detection is less accurate; i.e., it is more difficult to distinguish the energy peak from the background noise in the spectrum. We are not confident that 241Am would provide any greater ability to distinguish 1963 peaks in the sediment profile. The problem we are observing is the presence of wide peaks or multiple peaks spanning multiple sample increments, and this problem will exist with either 241Am or 137Cs.
Line 178: if you use density correction to build your age models, you should describe it in this section.
Authors’ Response:
Yes, we used a density correction to build our continuous age models. The continuous age models were based on mass depth (g cm-2) which is a function of sediment density, and not depth (cm).
We will clarify the sentence by revising the following sentence.
Original: “The CFCS model uses the log-linear relationship of 210Pbex with depth and converts 210Pbex to the sediment accumulation rate and, consequently, the OC sequestration rate.”
Revised: “The CFCS model uses the log-linear relationship of 210Pbex with mass depth and converts 210Pbex to the sediment accumulation rate and, consequently, the OC sequestration rate.”
Line 230: repositioned? what does that mean?
Authors’ Response:
For some profiles, the highest activity of 137Cs in the sediment profile was not always used as the basis for estimating the OC sequestration rate since 1963. Some sediment profiles can have very high total quantities of 137Cs, or profile inventories, with some of the post-1963 deposition of 137Cs received in 137Cs-enriched sediments from the surrounding catchment. Sediments that have undergone substantial preferential detachment and entrainment on their pathway into a wetland can have very high concentrations of 137Cs, and when interlayered with sediments that are not so enriched can generate multiple 137Cs peaks in the sediment profile peaks after 1963. The high 137Cs profile inventory values along with interlayers of sediment would suggest this phenomenon. In such “noisy” profiles associated with higher 137Cs inventories, the first discernible peak after the sharp rise from the onset of 137Cs activity and exceeding or around the reference value was assumed to be the original 137Cs peak.
To be clear, the multiple 137Cs peaks and elevated inventories referred to here are not presumed to be associated with Chernobyl and Fukushima events. When multiple peaks are observed, they are local and not regional in nature, ruling out the global impacts of Chernobyl and Fukushima.
In the revised manuscript, further clarification can be found in the Discussion section and in the revised text of the next comment.
Line 231: How do the authors explain the high stocks of these cores? Are these cores in an accumulation area?
Authors’ Response:
The high stocks could, partly, be attributed to the location of the wetlands from which the cores were collected. The wetlands were situated with agricultural landscapes, where there was a large potential for high organic matter input from the surrounding landscape (i.e., allochthonous organic matter inputs), and due to nutrient-rich runoff from the surrounding landscape to the wetland, there was also a large potential for high organic matter generation in situ (i.e., autochthonous organic matter inputs), with consequences on OC stocks skewed towards larger values.
We will add following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “Of the 62 high-quality 137Cs profiles, 4 (6.5%) were repositioned to capture the 137Cs enriched sediments post 1963. In these profiles, which had a cumulative 137Cs inventory value > 1,200 Bq m-2, the depth that corresponded to 137Cs cumulative inventory value of ~500 Bq m-2 was considered as the 1963 time-marker.”
Revised: “Of the 62 high-quality 137Cs profiles, 4 (6.5%) were repositioned to capture the 137Cs enriched sediments post 1963. In these profiles, which had a cumulative 137Cs inventory value > 1,200 Bq m-2, the depth that corresponded to 137Cs cumulative inventory value of ~500 Bq m-2 was considered as the 1963 time-marker. The high total quantities of 137Cs profile inventories can be attributed to receiving 137Cs enriched sediments from the surrounding landscape. Sediments that have undergone substantial preferential detachment and entrainment on their pathway into a wetland can have very high concentrations of 137Cs, and when interlayered with sediments that are not so enriched can generate multiple 137Cs peaks in the sediment profile peaks after 1963. These observed multiple peaks are local and not regional in nature, ruling out the association with Chernobyl and Fukushima events.”
Lines 257-259: This part corresponds to the methodology already described in the Materials and Methods section. I will delete it from the results
Authors’ Response:
We will delete the following sentence from the results in the revised manuscript.
Original: “The comparability of 137Cs vs. 210Pb derived OC sequestration rates was investigated through both visual inspection of the Q-Q plots and the Cramer-von Mises test which assigned significance of the distance of the points from the 1:1 line assessed with p-value and the AIC.”
Revised: *TEXT DELETED*
Line 310: To the best of my knowledge, you need a complete decay profile to apply the CRS model, it's the same for the CFCS model? Can you give a reference for this statement?
Authors’ Response:
Yes, we did achieve a complete decay profile as described in Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez (2012).
We will clarify this in the revised manuscript:
Original: “For example, the significantly smaller number of suitable 210Pb profiles (47/90 = 52%) due to lack of a complete decay profile indicates that 210Pb dating is more prone to disturbance than 137Cs (79/90 = 88%).
Revised: “For example, the significantly smaller number of suitable 210Pb profiles (47/90 = 52%) due to lack of a complete decay profile (following CFCS model as described in Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez, 2012) indicates that 210Pb dating is more prone to disturbance than 137Cs (79/90 = 88%).”
Line 311: I didn't understand if you corrected your 210Pb age model with density to avoid perturbations/inconsistencies/soil properties? please clarify.
Authors’ Response:
Yes, we corrected our 210Pb age model with density to avoid perturbations. We used the methods described in Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez (2012) for the 210Pb age model and used mass depth which controls for compaction unlike the depth-based approach that would respond to compaction and affect the dates. We used mass depth (g cm-2) because it does not respond to compaction and by extension bulk density as described by Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez (2012) and not the depth based (cm) which would be affected by changes in bulk density with consequences on depth.
We will clarify this in the revised manuscript and add the following text to the Methods:
Original: “For example, the significantly smaller number of suitable 210Pb profiles (47/90 = 52%) due to lack of a complete decay profile indicates that 210Pb dating is more prone to disturbance than 137Cs (79/90 = 88%).”
Text added to the Methods section: “Using mass depth (g cm-2) allowed controls for compaction (as described in Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez, 2012) unlike the depth-based approach that would respond to compaction and affect the OC sequestration rate estimates.”
Line 326: Fukushima and Chernobyl releases are not 'less', just not recorded in North American lakes or wetlands to the best of my knowledge.
Authors’ Response:
We agree. We revised the text to reflect that Fukushima and Chernobyl releases are not recorded in North American lakes.
Original: “For example, there are additional time-markers corresponding to the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear plant accident and 2011 Fukushima accident, although their effect is less felt in North America due to the substantial distance from the source.”
Revised: “For example, there are additional time-markers corresponding to the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear plant accident and 2011 Fukushima accident, although their effect is not recorded in North America due to the substantial distance from the source.”
Line 331: continuous age model instead of 'can provide multiple time markers?
Authors’ Response:
We will replace “can provide multiple time-markers” with the following text. Please note the previously provided explanation. We compared the average OC sequestration rate derived from 137Cs temporal markers with the progressive OC sequestration rates derived using a constant rate of supply model applied to 210Pb.
Original: “210Pb dating is advantageous because its calculations are based on multiple points and can provide several time-markers—including the 1954 onset and 1963 peak of 137Cs activity—improving the precision of the OC sequestration rates.”
Revised: “210Pb dating is advantageous because its calculations are based on multiple points associated with progressive OC sequestration rates derived using a constant rate of supply model—including the 1954 onset and 1963 peak of 137Cs activity—improving the precision of the OC sequestration rates.”
Line 345 : references for this statement?
Authors’ Response:
We will add the references Li et al. (2010) and Lal (2020) to support this statement:
Li et al. (2010) was already included in the manuscript.
Lal (2020) is now included in the manuscript.
Lal, R. (2020). Soil erosion and gaseous emissions. Applied Sciences, 10, 2784, doi:10.3390/app10082784, 2020.
Line 361: It was not possible to collect a reference site near each wetland?
Authors’ Response:
As noted above, it was not possible to identify a suitable reference site (large, open, level, non-eroded area with 10 km) near each wetland. It is extremely difficult to find such a site in agricultural landscapes. We have been successful in using catchment budgeting as an alternative method of establishing reference 137Cs values for specific wetlands, but that is far more time consuming and expensive than the standard approach.
In section 4.1, the authors should discuss alternative methods that may help to identify the peak of 137Cs (e.g. Pu isotopes).
Authors’ Response:
As noted above, we have the capacity to analyze 239+240Pu with alpha spectroscopy, and we are moving to Pu as a replacement for 137Cs as 137Cs levels diminish. We are into our third half-life for 137Cs (30.18-year half-life versus 6,000+ year half-life).
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
“239+240Pu isotopes which, like 137Cs, are a product of nuclear testing can be used to identify the peak of 137Cs. Future research will move to using 239+240Pu as a replacement for 137Cs as 137Cs levels diminish.”
Lines 383-386: very long sentence...
Authors’ Response:
We will simplify the text in the revised manuscript.
Original: “If the 137Cs activity of most of the sediment cores from an individual wetland are noisy with a higher inventory value, then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty because the higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material to the center of the wetland, therefore increasing the quantity of 137Cs from the value that would be expected if no new enriched material was introduced via erosion/lateral flow.”
Revised: “If the 137Cs activity of most of the sediment cores from an individual wetland are noisy with a higher inventory value, then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty. The higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material via erosion/lateral flow to the center of the wetland increasing the quantity of 137Cs.”
Line 416: in the last century?
Authors’ Response:
We will specify the dating technique and its importance in estimating recent OC sequestration rates in the revised text (see below).
Original: “Radiometric dating presents a valuable tool for estimating the OC sequestration potential of wetlands.”
Revised: “Radiometric dating using 137Cs and 210Pb presents a valuable tool for estimating recent OC sequestration potential of wetlands.”
Table 1: Why mention only the 1963 peak if your article is a technical note? Why not present the other peaks (sources of 137Cs) that could be found in other regions of the world? The 1963 peak, which is generally not dated to 1963 in the southern hemisphere? Why not include 241Am, which you may have in your gamma measurements and which may be useful in age modeling? These concepts need to be explained somewhere in your manuscript.
Authors’ Response:
We recognize the potential for the use of 241Am as an alternative to 137Cs; however, 241Am has similar challenges as 210Pb measured using gamma spectrometry: 241Am is detected in the low-energy range of the spectrum where detection is less accurate; i.e., it is more difficult to distinguish the energy peak from the background noise in the spectrum. We are not confident that 241Am would provide any greater ability to distinguish 1963 peaks in the sediment profile. The problem we are observing is wide peaks or multiple peaks spanning multiple sample increments, and this problem will exist with either 241Am or 137Cs.
Figures 2; 3: Mass or mass depth?
Authors’ Response:
It should be mass depth. We will replace “mass” with “mass depth” on the x-axis of relevant plots in Figures 2 and 3 in the first submission and 3 and 4 in the revised manuscript.
Table 3: Most of the disadvantages of the 210Pb listed in this table are related to the alpha spectrometry method, but the 210Pb can also be measured by gamma spectrometry, which is easier to use.
Authors’ Response:
As noted above, we measured 210Pb by both alpha and gamma spectroscopy.
Since we analyze samples for 137Cs using gamma spectroscopy, at the same time we prepare samples for 210Pb using gamma spectroscopy. This requires additional preparation and staging time, and can require more lengthy analysis time, so it is not as simple as getting the two measures at the same time with no extra cost or time.
We find the uncertainty in our 210Pb results derived from gamma spectroscopy can be unacceptably high, so we often rerun samples for 210Pb using alpha spectroscopy. Preparation of samples for alpha spectrometry is trickier, but we have the luxury of having the capacity to use both alpha and gamma spectroscopy. If we had to choose between gamma and alpha for 210Pb, we would choose alpha.
We will add the following bullet points in Table 3 to clarify.
Revised:
Under advantages of 210Pbex
- “Less sample preparation time for gamma analysis compared to alpha.
- Gamma analysis is non-destructive, so samples can be re-analyzed for other analyses compared to alpha.
- Can run multiple samples at a time on a single detector in alpha method.
Under disadvantages of 210Pbex
- Uncertainty of 210Pbex results derived from gamma analysis can be higher than alpha.”
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-1162-AC1
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1162', Anonymous Referee #2, 15 Jul 2024
This manuscript compares two radiometric techniques as complementary methods for estimating carbon sequestration in wetland soils. The methods for dating using cesium-137 and lead-210 radioisotopes were well explained and the results on the radioisotope profiles were also presented and interpreted well. Given the increasing interest in applying radiometry to the soil carbon sequestration, I think this paper can contribute to disseminating well-documented radiometric methods among the researchers in the various biogeoscience fields. However, I had some concerns about the focus of the current version and a couple of critical methodological details. To be qualified as a technical note, the authors may need to strengthen the “technical” part of the manuscript, and above all technical recommendations readers would expect for this article type. I would also thank the authors if clarify core selection criteria and the limitation of LOI as a measure of soil organic carbon as detailed below.
<Major comments>
- The objective of the technical notes paper
The stated objective (“This research paper compares the use of 137Cs- and 210Pb to estimate recent OC sequestration rates in intact (i.e., not directly 85 impaired by human activities) freshwater mineral soil wetlands located on agricultural landscapes”. “This study helps reduce uncertainty in studies that rely on 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating”) seems more relevant for regular research articles. Given the article type (technical notes), providing more concrete goals would help readers recognize the main contribution of this paper (e.g., providing specific recommendations for selecting better methods or procedures depending on wetland types). In this context, the last sentence of the abstract, along with some concluding part of the Discussion section (lines 400-413), needs also to be more articulated in providing technical suggestions based on the compared results. In terms of providing technical suggestions, the authors can be more straightforward in specifying which methods are more relevant in which types of samples.
- Criteria for selecting suitable cores
Different criteria were used for selecting suitable profiles of Cs and Pb (Line 121-124). First, more detailed descriptions would help readers understand the rationales of the employed criteria. Second, as the triplicate samples were analyzed for each site, please clarify if the selection criteria were applied to each single profile or an averaged result from three replicates per site. Third, it would provide more quantitative evaluation of the selection if it were clearly stated which proportion of the three profiles (e.g., at least two or all three) fulfill selection requirements.
- The term organic C
The authors used organic C to refer to the organic matter content measured by LOI (“OC content was calculated from OC concentration in % measured by loss-on-ignition method”). LOI is a measure of organic matter, but cannot represent organic carbon quantitatively. The limitation of LOI as a measure of organic matter is well known, such as the ignition of non-organic particles at high temperatures). In my opinion, the results of LOI measurements should be reported as LOI (%). Equating LOI with OC would be unacceptable for many soil scientists. I would recommend measuring and reporting OC. If this is not possible, LOI (%) or OM (%) should be used with a prior definition.
<Minor comments>
- Title: if C accumulation occurs mainly in the wetland soils, the title should end like “freshwater wetland soils”.
- Line (L) 23: Without citing any relevant papers, this sentence assumes that wetlands function as C sinks, although wetlands can also function as C sources under degrading conditions or when CH4 emissions are taken into consideration. Please refine the text based these considerations and provide at least a few relevant papers.
- L 56 “210Pb is a naturally occurring radionuclide of 238U”: Do you mean “…radionuclide deriving from 238U?”
- L 66: It would be more reader-friendly if you explain “unsupported” and “supported” by adding a few more words.
- L 76: Please remove “according to” and instead put the references in parentheses.
- L 87: Parentheses here appear unnecessary.
- L 108-108 “the high-purity germanium detectors, Broad Energy Germanium detectors (BE6530) and high-resolution Small Anode Germanium well detectors (GSW275L) (Mirion Technologies, Inc., Atlanta, GA, USA)”: It is not clear whether BE6530 and GSW275L are high-purity and high-resolution detectors, respectively.
- L 112: This would be a good place to describe any QA/QC measures that were employed to guarantee the analytical accuracy.
- L 232-238: Don’t these exceptions demand a refinement of the criteria? For instance, additional criteria can be prescribed considering these exceptions. It would be too arbitrary if we have to accept the failed profiles based on subjective visual inspections.
- L 306: Please include a phrase mentioning OC data like “combined with OC measurements” following “both radioisotopes dating”.
- L 256-261: Please combine these sentences into a single combed paragraph. The following 2-3 sentences throughout the Results section also seem untidy, requiring some editorial refinement.
- L 383-390: Given the article type (technical note) and the goal of suggesting good practices, it would be helpful if you provide some recommendations about the highly disturbed cases.
- L 394: Please cite the relevant figure.
- L 395-398: This assessment is not fully in line with the results shown in Table 2 (particularly the four mean values of C sequestration rates) and the main conclusion on the compatibility of both methods. Don’t you need to mention at least the results (Table 2) here?
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Irena Creed, 06 Aug 2024
Response to comments of reviewer #2:
Note that the reviewer’s original comments are in italics.
This manuscript compares two radiometric techniques as complementary methods for estimating carbon sequestration in wetland soils. The methods for dating using cesium-137 and lead-210 radioisotopes were well explained and the results on the radioisotope profiles were also presented and interpreted well. Given the increasing interest in applying radiometry to the soil carbon sequestration, I think this paper can contribute to disseminating well-documented radiometric methods among the researchers in the various biogeoscience fields. However, I had some concerns about the focus of the current version and a couple of critical methodological details. To be qualified as a technical note, the authors may need to strengthen the “technical” part of the manuscript, and above all technical recommendations readers would expect for this article type. I would also thank the authors if clarify core selection criteria and the limitation of LOI as a measure of soil organic carbon as detailed below.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this feedback. We will add clarification to the revised manuscript by elaborating the selection criteria, incorporating technical recommendations at the end of discussion, and providing limitation of LOI as a measure of soil organic carbon (OC). The points mentioned in this are also addressed in a few of our responses to the reviewer’s comments below.
<Major comments>
The objective of the technical notes paper
The stated objective (“This research paper compares the use of 137Cs- and 210Pb to estimate recent OC sequestration rates in intact (i.e., not directly 85 impaired by human activities) freshwater mineral soil wetlands located on agricultural landscapes”. “This study helps reduce uncertainty in studies that rely on 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating”) seems more relevant for regular research articles. Given the article type (technical notes), providing more concrete goals would help readers recognize the main contribution of this paper (e.g., providing specific recommendations for selecting better methods or procedures depending on wetland types). In this context, the last sentence of the abstract, along with some concluding part of the Discussion section (lines 400-413), needs also to be more articulated in providing technical suggestions based on the compared results. In terms of providing technical suggestions, the authors can be more straightforward in specifying which methods are more relevant in which types of samples.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this feedback. We will add specific objectives and technical suggestions in the discussion section to ease readability.
Revised:
To be included in the introduction: “The main objective of this research paper is to explore the use of 137Cs and 210Pb to estimate OC sequestration rates in undisturbed (i.e., not directly impaired by human activities) in freshwater wetlands located on agricultural landscapes. Here, we aim to: (1) categorize 137Cs or 210Pb profiles into high- and low-quality via a decision framework, (2) apply the decision framework to estimate OC sequestration rates, (3) use 1963 and 1954 time-markers to compare the 137Cs and 210Pb based OC sequestration rates to get a better understanding of the sedimentation history, and (4) select the best approach for 137Cs and 210Pb to estimate the OC sequestration rates with highest precision.”
To be included in discussion: “Based on the results of this study, we recommend (1) use high-quality 137Cs and 210Pb profiles to estimate OC sequestration rates, (2) interpret 137Cs profiles from agricultural landscapes carefully from the perspective of redistribution of sediments, (3)use both 137Cs and 210Pb to compare and validate estimates if logistic approves. However, in case where one had to choose between 137Cs and 210Pb we recommend (1) For 137Cs: use 1963 time-markers to estimate OC sequestration rates (compared to 1954) since it is found to be most comparable with 210Pb dating techniques (CFCS model), (2) For 210Pb (CFCS model): OC sequestration rates from present to 1963 can be estimated with highest precision since we corroborated the estimates with 137Cs, however, we can not comment on the precision of 210Pb based OC sequestration rate estimation before 1963 based on the scope of this study.”
Criteria for selecting suitable cores
Different criteria were used for selecting suitable profiles of Cs and Pb (Line 121-124). First, more detailed descriptions would help readers understand the rationales of the employed criteria. Second, as the triplicate samples were analyzed for each site, please clarify if the selection criteria were applied to each single profile or an averaged result from three replicates per site. Third, it would provide more quantitative evaluation of the selection if it were clearly stated which proportion of the three profiles (e.g., at least two or all three) fulfill selection requirements.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this feedback. We have mentioned in the manuscript that we have first selected the suitable sediment cores (complete and datable) out of the total 90 (30 wetlands × 3 replicates = 90) sediment cores collected from the field. The suitability (complete and datable does not mean high-quality) was assessed by zero activity before the onset and the peak of 137Cs activity for 137Cs and was assessed by determining the exponential decline in 210Pb activity with depth until background levels are reached for 210Pb. As indicated in the manuscript, we applied the screening for 79 137Cs and 47 210Pb sediment cores (we did not average). Details on how many replicates were suitably dated and used for statistical analysis can be found in Fig 2 and supplementary figures 2 to 13 of the submitted manuscript. We will clarify further in the revised manuscript by revising the following sentences.
Original: “Selecting suitable cores: Of the 90 sediment cores, 79 were suitable (complete and datable) for 137Cs dating and 47 were suitable for 210Pb dating. Suitability for 137Cs profiles for dating was assessed by zero activity before the onset and the peak of 137Cs activity. The suitability of 210Pb profiles for dating was assessed by determining the exponential decline in 210Pb activity with depth until background levels are reached.”
Revised: “Selecting suitable cores: Of the 90 sediment cores (30 wetlands x 3 replicates = 90), 79 were suitable (complete and datable) for 137Cs dating and 47 were suitable for 210Pb dating. Only some replicates from the same wetland were suitable for interpretation or further screening. Suitability for 137Cs profiles for dating was assessed by zero activity before the onset and the peak of 137Cs activity. The suitability of 210Pb profiles for dating was assessed by determining the exponential decline in 210Pb activity with depth until background levels are reached.”
Original: “Statistical analyses were conducted using sediment cores where both 137Cs and 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates were available.”
Revised: “Statistical analyses were conducted using sediment cores where both 137Cs and 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates were available (number of sediment cores (n) = 44).”
The term organic C
The authors used organic C to refer to the organic matter content measured by LOI (“OC content was calculated from OC concentration in % measured by loss-on-ignition method”). LOI is a measure of organic matter, but cannot represent organic carbon quantitatively. The limitation of LOI as a measure of organic matter is well known, such as the ignition of non-organic particles at high temperatures). In my opinion, the results of LOI measurements should be reported as LOI (%). Equating LOI with OC would be unacceptable for many soil scientists. I would recommend measuring and reporting OC. If this is not possible, LOI (%) or OM (%) should be used with a prior definition.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this feedback. We will add the suggested definitions and limitations in the revised manuscript.
Original: “OC stocks for the 1954 and 1963 time-markers were calculated by multiplying the OC content per unit mass of soil (g; OC content was calculated from OC concentration in % measured by loss-on-ignition method, Kolthoff and Sandell, 1952) by the mass of sediment for each section interval and specific depth interval per unit area (g cm-2) down the profile to the respective time-marker.”
Revised: “OC stocks for the 1954 and 1963 time-markers were calculated by multiplying the OC content per unit mass of soil (g). Here, OC content was calculated from OC concentration (%) measured by loss-on-ignition (LOI) method (Kolthoff and Sandell, 1952) by the mass of sediment for each section interval and specific depth interval per unit area (g cm-2) down the profile to the respective time-marker. OC (%) was calculated by multiplying organic matter (%) by LOI with 0.58 assuming 58% of the organic matter is carbon. Despite the wide applicability, simplicity in measurement techniques, and cost-effectiveness, the LOI approach is associated with some limitations such as ignition of non-organic particles at high temperatures or use of conventional conversion factor (Pribyl, 2010; Hoogsteen et al., 2015) which can result in over-estimation of OC content.”
Citations:
Pribyl, D. W.: A critical review of the conventional SOC to SOM conversion factor, Geoderma, 156(3-4), 75-83, doi:10.1016/j.geoderma.2010.02.003, 2010.
Hoogsteen, M. J., Lantinga, E. A., Bakker, E. J., Groot, J. C., and Tittonell, P. A.: Estimating soil organic carbon through loss on ignition: effects of ignition conditions and structural water loss, European Journal of soil science, 66(2), 320-328, doi:10.1111/ejss.12224, 2015.
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Title: if C accumulation occurs mainly in the wetland soils, the title should end like “freshwater wetland soils”.
Authors’ Response:
Title will be revised as follows.
Original: “Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in freshwater mineral soil wetlands”
Revised: “Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in temperate inland wetland soils”
Line (L) 23: Without citing any relevant papers, this sentence assumes that wetlands function as C sinks, although wetlands can also function as C sources under degrading conditions or when CH4 emissions are taken into consideration. Please refine the text based these considerations and provide at least a few relevant papers.
Authors’ Response:
Sentence will be refined, and citation will be added in the revised manuscript.
Original: “Moreover, these wetlands have the potential to sequester organic carbon (OC), making them candidates to be natural climate solutions by offsetting carbon emissions.”
Revised: “Moreover, these wetlands have the potential to sequester organic carbon (OC) (Bridgham et al., 2006; Nahlik and Fennessey, 2016; Bansal et al., 2023). Accounting for the balance between the sequestration and emission of carbon can help establish wetlands as important candidates for natural climate solutions by offsetting carbon emissions (Hamback et al., 2023).”
Citations:
Bansal, S., Creed, I. F., Tangen, B. A., Bridgham, S. D., Desai, A. R., Krauss, K. W., Neubauer, S. C., Noe, G. B., Rosenberry, D. O., Trettin, C., Wickland, K. P., Allen, S. T., Arias-Ortiz, A., Armitage, A. R., Baldocchi, D., Banerjee, K., Bastviken, D., Berg, P., Bogard, M., Chow, A. T., Conner, W. H., Craft, C., Creamer, C., DelSontro, T., Duberstein, J. A., Eagle, M., Fennessy, M. S., Finkelstein, S. A., Göckede, M., Grunwald, S., Halabisky, M., Herbert, E., Jahangir, M. M. R., Johnson, O. F., Jones, M. C., Kelleway, J. J., Knox, S., Kroeger, K. D., Kuehn, K. A., Lobb, D., Loder A. L., Ma, S., Maher, D. T., McNicol, G., Meier, J., Middleton, B. A., Mills, C., Mistry, P., Mitra, A., Mobiian, C., Nahlik, A. M., Newman, S., O’Connell, J. L., Oikawa, P., Post van der Burg, M., Schutte, C. A., Song, C., Stagg, C. L., Turner, J., Vargas, R., Waldrop, M. P., Wallin, M. B., Wang, Z. A., Ward, E. J., Willard, D. A., Yarwood, S., and Zhu X.: Practical guide to measuring wetland carbon pools and fluxes, Wetlands, 43(8), 105, doi:10.1007/s13157-023-01722-2, 2023.
Bridgham, S. D., Megonigal, J. P., Keller, J. K., Bliss, N. B., and Trettin, C.: The carbon balance of North American wetlands, Wetlands, 26(4), 889-916, doi:10.1672/0277-5212(2006)26[889:TCBONA]2.0.CO;2, 2006.
Hambäck, P. A., Dawson, L., Geranmayeh, P., Jarsjö, J., Kačergytė, I., Peacock, M., Collentine, D., Destouni, G., Futter, M., Hugelius, G., Hedman, S., Jonsson, S., Klatt, B. K., Lindström, A., Nilsson, J. E., Pärt, T., Schneider, L. D., Strand, J. A., Urrutia-Cordero, P., Åhlén, D., Åhlén., I., and Blicharska, M.: Tradeoffs and synergies in wetland multifunctionality: A scaling issue. Science of the Total Environment, 862, 160746, doi:10.1016/j.scitotenv.2022.160746, 2023.
Nahlik, A. M. and Fennessy, M. S.: Carbon storage in US wetlands. Nature Communications, 7(1), 1-9, doi:10.1038/ncomms13835, 2016.
L 56 “210Pb is a naturally occurring radionuclide of 238U”: Do you mean “…radionuclide deriving from 238U?”
Authors’ Response:
Yes. Sentence will be refined for ease in readability.
Original: “Unlike 137Cs, 210Pb is a naturally occurring radionuclide of 238U and deposits atmospherically from the decay of 226Ra (Walling and He, 1999).”
Revised: “Unlike 137Cs, 210Pb is a naturally occurring radionuclide derived from 238U and deposits atmospherically from the decay of 226Ra (Walling and He, 1999).”
L 66: It would be more reader-friendly if you explain “unsupported” and “supported” by adding a few more words.
Authors’ Response:
Following text will be added to explain “unsupported” and “supported”.
Original: “Gamma and alpha spectrometry of 210Pb provides the total 210Pb activity, which incorporates unsupported (or excess) 210Pb (210Pbex) and supported 210Pb.”
Revised: “Gamma and alpha spectrometry of 210Pb provides the total 210Pb activity, which incorporates unsupported (or excess) 210Pb (210Pbex) and supported 210Pb. Supported 210Pb is derived from the natural decay of radium-226 (226Ra) present in the sediment while unsupported 210Pb comes from the decay of atmospheric radon-222 (222Rn), which deposits 210Pb onto the sediment surface from the air. Unsupported 210Pb activity decreases over time due to radioactive decay, unlike supported 210Pb (Appleby and Oldfieldz, 1983).”
Citation:
Appleby, P. G., and Oldfieldz, F.: The assessment of 210 Pb data from sites with varying sediment accumulation rates, Hydrobiologia, 103, 29-35, doi:10.1007/BF00028424, 1983.
L 76: Please remove “according to” and instead put the references in parentheses.
Authors’ Response:
In line 76, “according to” will be removed and references put in parentheses.
Original: “The combined use of 137Cs and 210Pb may improve the accuracy of the dating estimation, according to Drexler et al. (2018) and Creed et al. (2022).”
Revised: “The combined use of 137Cs and 210Pb may improve the accuracy of the dating estimation (Drexler et al., 2018; Creed et al., 2022).”
L 87: Parentheses here appear unnecessary.
Authors’ Response:
Parentheses will be removed.
Original: “Sediment cores were screened (to remove profiles with evidence of vertical mixing), and then the remaining profiles were used to estimate OC sequestration rates using 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating.”
Revised: “Sediment cores were screened to remove profiles with evidence of vertical mixing, and then the remaining profiles were used to estimate OC sequestration rates using 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating.”
L 108-108 “the high-purity germanium detectors, Broad Energy Germanium detectors (BE6530) and high-resolution Small Anode Germanium well detectors (GSW275L) (Mirion Technologies, Inc., Atlanta, GA, USA)”: It is not clear whether BE6530 and GSW275L are high-purity and high-resolution detectors, respectively.
Authors’ Response:
Sentence will be refined to clarify both BE6530 and GSW275L are high-purity detectors.
Original: “The gamma analysis was conducted using the high-purity germanium detectors, Broad Energy Germanium detectors (BE6530) and high-resolution Small Anode Germanium well detectors (GSW275L) (Mirion Technologies, Inc., Atlanta, GA, USA). The alpha analysis was conducted using ORTEC® alpha spectrometer (AMETEK® Advanced Measurement Technology, TN, USA)”
Revised: “The gamma analysis was conducted using the high-purity germanium detectors; e.g., Broad Energy Germanium detectors (BE6530) and Small Anode Germanium well detectors (GSW275L) (Mirion Technologies, Inc., Atlanta, GA, USA). The alpha analysis was conducted using ORTEC® alpha spectrometer (AMETEK® Advanced Measurement Technology, TN, USA)”
L 112: This would be a good place to describe any QA/QC measures that were employed to guarantee the analytical accuracy.
Authors’ Response:
QA/QC measures employed in this study to guarantee the analytical accuracy will be added after line 112 as suggested.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript.
“Measurement accuracy of gamma detectors is ensured by assessing the counting errors with reference materials within same geometry as the sample (e.g., petri dish). Detection error was < 10% with a counting time of up to 24 h. Furthermore, Landscape Dynamics Laboratory undergoes regular Proficiency Testing through the International Atomic Reference Material Agency (IARMA) and previously through the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to ensure acceptable accuracy and precision of analytical results using gamma spectroscopy.”
L 232-238: Don’t these exceptions demand a refinement of the criteria? For instance, additional criteria can be prescribed considering these exceptions. It would be too arbitrary if we have to accept the failed profiles based on subjective visual inspections.
Authors’ Response:
These exceptions were reflected in the currently set criteria, where the first step is to look at the shape of the 137Cs peak: “clear peaks with 2 or 3 points on both sides of the peak”. In the absence of clear peaks, the cumulative 137Cs inventory value should be checked. We wanted to elaborate on this criterion (and how we followed it) by providing explanation for two cores where, despite a cumulative 137Cs inventory value < 500 Bq m-2 we considered them as high-quality because the 1963 peak was good. For one sediment core, we did take a subjective decision by choosing it to be high-quality rather than low-quality. We acknowledge that a classification of the three categories instead of two would have been better in this case where we can classify the cores into low, medium- or high-quality but with limited number of sediment cores and to promote ease of applying the decision framework, we restricted ourselves to two categories. Based on the response to the other comments below, we will also provide examples of which profile we are referring to throughout the revised manuscript so that the reader can refer to the specific 137Cs profiles in the main manuscript or supplementary figures. An example of the revised text is provided below.
Original: “Two 137Cs profiles were considered high-quality despite a cumulative 137Cs inventory value < 500 Bq m-2 because the 1963 peak was clear, distinct, and elongated with two-to-three points on both sides of the peak.”
Revised: “Two 137Cs profiles were considered high-quality despite a cumulative 137Cs inventory value < 500 Bq m-2 because the 1963 peak was clear, distinct, and elongated with two-to-three points on both sides of the peak (e.g., 137Cs profile of M-OA-I-W4-T2-CW-R2 in Supplementary Fig. 7b).”
L 306: Please include a phrase mentioning OC data like “combined with OC measurements” following “both radioisotopes dating”.
Authors’ Response:
We did not include the phrase “combined with OC measurements” since we did not compare OC measurements or stocks or contents in this study. Here, we focused on comparing the 137Cs and 210Pb based OC sequestration rates where calculations include OC stock measurements. Details on how we calculated the OC sequestration rates/OC stock can be found in the Methods section.
L 256-261: Please combine these sentences into a single combed paragraph. The following 2-3 sentences throughout the Results section also seem untidy, requiring some editorial refinement.
Authors’ Response:
Line 256 – 258 will be deleted in the revised manuscript based on reviewer #1 comment, so the paragraph will start from “For each of the ……” as shown below. We will revise the following 2-3 sentences in Results section to make necessary editorial adjustments in the revised manuscript as suggested.
Original: “The comparability of 137Cs vs. 210Pb derived OC sequestration rates was investigated through both visual inspection of the Q-Q plots and the Cramer-von Mises test which assigned significance of the distance of the points from the 1:1 line assessed with p-value and the AIC. For each of the four datasets (D1-D4), the points on the Q-Q plot were distributed in a straight line, showing a linear relationship between the two estimates being compared (R2 > 0.95, p-value < 0.001) (Fig. 4).”
Revised: “For each of the four datasets (D1-D4), the points on the Q-Q plot were distributed in a straight line, showing a linear relationship between the two estimates being compared (R2 > 0.95, p-value < 0.001) (Fig. 4).”
L 383-390: Given the article type (technical note) and the goal of suggesting good practices, it would be helpful if you provide some recommendations about the highly disturbed cases.
Authors’ Response:
Thanks for the feedback. Throughout the manuscript we have tried to provide recommendations regarding highly disturbed cases. For e.g., in line 383 we mention that if the 137Cs profiles are noisy with a higher inventory value, then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty because the higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material to the center of the wetland, therefore increasing the quantity of 137Cs from the value that would be expected if no new enriched material was introduced via erosion/lateral flow. Therefore, these 137Cs profiles should not be discarded due to its noise. In case of where there are two peaks seen with higher inventory, one can reposition the 137Cs peak to account for enrichment as we did for few cores. We will provide examples of which 137Cs or 210Pb profile we are referring to throughout the revised manuscript so that the reader can refer to the figures/profiles in the main manuscript or supplement to visualize the disturbed cores/profiles. An example of how we will do revisions is provided below.
Original: “If the 137Cs activity of most of the sediment cores from an individual wetland are noisy with a higher inventory value, then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty because the higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material to the center of the wetland, therefore increasing the quantity of 137Cs from the value that would be expected if no new enriched material was introduced via erosion/lateral flow.”
Revised: “If the 137Cs activity of most of the sediment cores from an individual wetland are noisy with a higher inventory value (e.g., 137Cs profile of S-LO-I-W4-T2-CW-R2 in Supplementary Fig. 2a), then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty because the higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material to the center of the wetland, therefore increasing the quantity of 137Cs from the value that would be expected if no new enriched material was introduced via erosion/lateral flow.”
L 394: Please cite the relevant figure.
Authors’ Response:
Relevant figure will be cited in the revised manuscript.
Original: “The 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1963 OC sequestration rates is in closer proximity with the 1:1-line, suggesting compatibility between 137Cs- and 210Pb-based estimates. Conversely, the 137Cs -210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1954 OC sequestration rates showed more deviation from the 1:1 line; 137Cs-based OC sequestration rates were more dispersed and were higher than the 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates.”
Revised: “The 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1963 OC sequestration rates is in closer proximity with the 1:1-line, suggesting compatibility between 137Cs- and 210Pb-based estimates (Fig 5c and 5d). Conversely, the 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1954 OC sequestration rates showed more deviation from the 1:1 line; 137Cs-based OC sequestration rates were more dispersed and were higher than the 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates (Fig 5a and 5b).”
L 395-398: This assessment is not fully in line with the results shown in Table 2 (particularly the four mean values of C sequestration rates) and the main conclusion on the compatibility of both methods. Don’t you need to mention at least the results (Table 2) here?
Authors’ Response:
We think that the results shown in Table 2 aligns with the main conclusion of this study i.e. 137Cs and 210Pb based OC sequestration rates since 1963 using high-quality profiles are reasonably comparable or similar (for e.g., compared to using 1954 time-marker). We will mention the table 2 results in the revised text.
Original: “Conversely, the 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1954 OC sequestration rates showed more deviation from the 1:1 line; 137Cs-based OC sequestration rates were more dispersed and were higher than the 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates. Providing better sequestration rate estimates has consequences for estimating OC stocks with an improved degree of accuracy, which may provide policymakers with better tools to make informed carbon management decisions supported with data.”
Revised: “Conversely, the 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1954 OC sequestration rates showed more deviation from the 1:1 line; 137Cs-based OC sequestration rates were more dispersed and were higher than the 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates (Fig 5a and 5b). The mean OC sequestration rates in Table 2 further verify the comparability of OC sequestration rates using 1963 time-marker (mean 137Cs OC sequestration rate is 0.63 Mg ha-1 yr-1 while mean 210Pb OC sequestration rate is 0.68 Mg ha-1 yr-1) and the dispersion using 1954 time-marker (mean 137Cs OC sequestration rate is 1.02 Mg ha-1 yr-1 while mean 210Pb OC sequestration rate is 0.67 Mg ha-1 yr-1). Providing better sequestration rate estimates has consequences for estimating OC stocks with an improved degree of accuracy, which may provide policymakers with better tools to make informed carbon management decisions supported with data.”
Important note: We will update the wetland sediment core id in the revised manuscript and supplement to maintain consistency in future publication. Please refer to the table below for the previous codes and the revised codes.
Previously used wetland sediment core ID in the submitted technical note
Revised wetland sediment core ID in the revised manuscript
AB-2 T3
A-WE-I-W2-T3-CW-R3
SK-A1 T3
S-RO-I-W1-T3-CW-R3
SK-A2 T2
S-RO-I-W2-T2-CW-R2
SK-A3 T1
S-LO-I-W3-T1-CW-R1
SK-A3 T2
S-LO-I-W3-T2-CW-R2
SK-A3 T3
S-LO-I-W3-T3-CW-R3
SK-A4 T2
S-LO-I-W4-T2-CW-R2
SK-A5 T1
S-RO-I-W5-T1-CW-R1
SK-A5 T3
S-RO-I-W5-T3-CW-R3
SK-A6 T1
S-RO-I-W6-T1-CW-R1
SK-A7 T1
S-RU-I-W7-T1-CW-R1
SK-A7 T2
S-RU-I-W7-T2-CW-R2
SK-A7 T3
S-RU-I-W7-T3-CW-R3
SK-B1 T2
S-FO-I-W8-T2-CW-R2
SK-B1 T3
S-FO-I-W8-T3-CW-R3
SK-B2 T2
S-FO-I-W9-T2-CW-R2
SK-B2 T3
S-FO-I-W9-T3-CW-R3
SK-B4 T1
S-FO-I-W11-T1-CW-R1
SK-B4 T2
S-FO-I-W11-T2-CW-R2
SK-B4 T3
S-FO-I-W11-T3-CW-R3
SK-B5 T1
S-FO-I-W12-T1-CW-R1
SK-B5 T3
S-FO-I-W12-T3-CW-R3
SK-B9 T2
S-FO-I-W16-T2-CW-R2
SK-B9 T3
S-FO-I-W16-T3-CW-R3
MB-1 T1
M-OA-I-W1-T1-CW-R1
MB-1 T2
M-OA-I-W1-T2-CW-R2
MB-1 T3
M-OA-I-W1-T3-CW-R3
MB-2 T1
M-OA-I-W2-T1-CW-R1
MB-3 T2
M-OA-I-W3-T2-CW-R2
MB-4 T1
M-OA-I-W4-T1-CW-R1
MB-4 T2
M-OA-I-W4-T2-CW-R2
MB-4 T3
M-OA-I-W4-T3-CW-R3
MB-5 T1
M-OA-I-W5-T1-CW-R1
MB-5 T3
M-OA-I-W5-T3-CW-R3
ON-A1 T2
O-BR-I-W1-T2-CW-R2
ON-A1 T3
O-BR-I-W1-T3-CW-R3
ON-A2 T1
O-BR-I-W2-T2-CW-R2
ON-A2 T2
O-BR-I-W2-T3-CW-R3
ON-A2 T3
O-BR-I-W2-T4-CW-R4
ON-B1 T1
O-AL-I-W4-T1-CW-R1
ON-B1 T2
O-AL-I-W4-T2-CW-R2
ON-B1 T3
O-AL-I-W4-T3-CW-R3
ON-B2 T3
O-AL-I-W5-T3-CW-R3
ON-B3 T1
O-AL-I-W6-T1-CW-R1
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-1162-AC2
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1162', Anonymous Referee #1, 27 Jun 2024
The paper "Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in freshwater mineral soil wetlands" by Mistry et al. evaluates the accuracy of an age model based on lead-210 and cesium-137 or the combination of both radionuclides for the reconstruction of organic carbon sequestration rates / stocks in Canada. In their paper, the authors evaluate the quality of the radionuclide profiles using a visual and statistical approach. On the selected profiles (classified as unperturbed), they compare the error associated with using the 1954 and 1963 time markers to establish age model in comparison to lead-210 age model for reconstructing the carbon sequestration rate.
The paper is interesting and well written, especially the discussion. The descriptions of the results were sometimes more complicated to follow. I have identified some points that should be clarified for the revised version.
- This paper is intended to be a 'technical note'. In my opinion, a technical note should be applicable worldwide. In the introduction, in Table 1 or again in the methods section, the authors mainly introduce 137Cs in North America (in the discussion they introduce Fukushima and Chernobyl peaks). This radionuclide has some specificities around the world that need to be introduced for a technical note. It will also be interesting to introduce and discuss other complementary approaches that can help to identify the 137Cs, the advantages, disadvantage of these techniques (e.g. Pu isotopes) or again the 'classic' combination of 137Cs and 210Pb to establish an age model.
- If I understand correctly, the authors compare the efficiency of both 137Cs age models (using 1954 and/or 1963 peaks) with the 210Pb model after the identification of ‘high-quality profiles’. To me, these two approaches are complementary. Most studies using lake sediments, for example, validate their 210Pb age model by comparing the continuous lead chronology with the 137Cs peaks (1954 and 1963). The authors state that they use this combination, but this information is not clearly stated in the text (or I may have misunderstood them). Do they compare the validity of the 210Pb models in the conventional way (I don't think so) or simply by comparing the 137Cs and 210Pb profiles, which they think are of good quality?
- At various points in the manuscript, the authors emphasize the simplicity of measuring 137Cs compared with 210Pb. This statement is true if researchers use alpha spectrometry, but as reported in some recent reviews (cited by the authors), studies using alpha spectrometry are decreasing, while gamma spectrometry is increasingly used. This technique makes it easy to obtain 137Cs, 210Pb and 241Am. At the end of the introduction, the authors state that "this study helps to reduce the uncertainty in studies that rely on 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating". If you have access to both radionuclides with gamma spectrometry, you don't have to choose between the two because you have access to both radionuclides. The authors should justify why it is important to be able to run the lead-210 and 137Cs models separately.
- The authors of this paper have done important field and analytical work that deserves to be published in an open access database. This will allow other researchers to evaluate their work and share these data with the community. I recommend that the authors make this dataset available for the revised version.
I recommend publishing this article after revision.
General comments :
- Line 13: replace measuring with reconstructing ?
- Line 14: You mention 'a single point' when you actually mention two in the rest of the sentence (1954 and 1963). There may be other regional peaks (1986, 2011) or even more local ones.
- Line 19: You compare your 137Cs age models with the 210Pbxs age model? How?
- Line 24: Perhaps a broader view here to introduce the importance of your topic? Area occupied by these wetlands in the world, Canada, etc.? Data about carbon sequestration by these wetlands?
- Line 25: critical -> important?
- Line 40: formed -> produced during?
- Line 41: 1963 in the northern hemisphere. What about the southern hemisphere? If the article is to be a technical note applicable worldwide, it needs to give a more global view of 137Cs fallout (not just the 1963 peak).
- Line 44: 1954 and 1963 - 1954 or 1963. Most publications using the 137Cs age model use both the 1954 and 1963 time points to construct their age models. When using two time points, the sedimentation rate is not always (often) constant.
- Lines 47-48: In Europe the story is more complex and it is sometimes difficult to distinguish the 1963 peak from the 1986 peak. Authors should introduce additional markers (241Am, Pu isotopes) to help distinguish these peaks and avoid errors in age modeling.
- Line 54: I don't agree that the 210Pb models are "complicated", as the authors have already stated in the abstract. Lead models provide complementary information than 137Cs age models. There are many R codes that facilitate the establishment of 210Pb models (e.g. SERAC model, Bruel and Sabatier, 2020).
- Line 64: remove 'for’
- Line 67: or mass accumulation rate?
- Line 70: only cite Appleby and Odfield?
- Line 71: In my opinion, 137Cs provide temporal markers as mentioned by the author, but not 210Pbex, which provides a continuous age model. The 137Cs help to validate the 210Pb model.
- Line 77: If you do gamma spectrometry, you get both210Pbex, which provides a continuous age model. The 137Cs help to validate the 210Pb model.
- Line 77: If you perform gamma spectrometry you obtain both 137Cs and 210Pb (and 241Am) and you don’t have any extra cost, time and specialized equipment.
- Line 85: change intact through undisturbed?
- Lines 86-87: methods?
- Line 94: This figure should be in the main manuscript.
- Line 95: change 'intact’ by undisturbed ?
- Lines 114-119: the authors must discuss what can change the shape of these peaks (e.g. bioturbation, erosion phenomena, deposition of 137Cs-labelled particles, climatic events, ...), see existing bibliographic reviews.
- Line 140: The authors should describe where these reference samples were collected and describe the environment (e.g. undisturbed grassland?). Authors use one reference core per site? This part was not clear for me
- Line 164: Use organic carbon instead of OC in the title.
- Line 169: the authors should explain how they get from g.cm2.year to Mg.ha.year-1 (representativeness of the core to extrapolate the value to the ha scale?)
- Line 171 - 173: why do the authors not use the 241Am to more clearly identify the 1963 peak (when the shape of the peak is not clear)? If they are not sure about the peak, why not use the onset of 137Cs in 1954 instead of remove the profile from their selection (maybe I don’t have understand here)?
- Line 178: if you use density correction to build your age models, you should describe it in this section.
- Line 230: repositioned? what does that mean?
- Line 231: How do the authors explain the high stocks of these cores? Are these cores in an accumulation area?
- Lines 257-259: This part corresponds to the methodology already described in the Materials and Methods section. I will delete it from the results
- Line 310: To the best of my knowledge, you need a complete decay profile to apply the CRS model, it's the same for the CFCS model? Can you give a reference for this statement?
- Line 311: I didn't understand if you corrected your 210Pb age model with density to avoid perturbations/inconsistencies/soil properties? please clarify.
- Line 326: Fukushima and Chernobyl releases are not 'less', just not recorded in North American lakes or wetlands to the best of my knowledge.
- Line 331: continuous age model instead of 'can provide multiple time markers?
- Line 345 : references for this statement?
- Line 361: It was not possible to collect a reference site near each wetland?
- In section 4.1, the authors should discuss alternative methods that may help to identify the peak of 137Cs (e.g. Pu isotopes).
- Lines 383-386: very long sentence...
- Line 416: in the last century?
- Table 1: Why mention only the 1963 peak if your article is a technical note? Why not present the other peaks (sources of 137Cs) that could be found in other regions of the world? The 1963 peak, which is generally not dated to 1963 in the southern hemisphere? Why not include 241Am, which you may have in your gamma measurements and which may be useful in age modeling? These concepts need to be explained somewhere in your manuscript.
- Figures 2; 3: Mass or mass depth?
- Table 3: Most of the disadvantages of the 210Pb listed in this table are related to the alpha spectrometry method, but the 210Pb can also be measured by gamma spectrometry, which is easier to use.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-1162-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Irena Creed, 06 Aug 2024
Response to comments of reviewer #1:
Note that the reviewer’s original comments are in italics.
The paper "Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in freshwater mineral soil wetlands" by Mistry et al. evaluates the accuracy of an age model based on lead-210 and cesium-137 or the combination of both radionuclides for the reconstruction of organic carbon sequestration rates / stocks in Canada. In their paper, the authors evaluate the quality of the radionuclide profiles using a visual and statistical approach. On the selected profiles (classified as unperturbed), they compare the error associated with using the 1954 and 1963 time markers to establish age model in comparison to lead-210 age model for reconstructing the carbon sequestration rate.
The paper is interesting and well written, especially the discussion. The descriptions of the results were sometimes more complicated to follow. I have identified some points that should be clarified for the revised version. This paper is intended to be a 'technical note'. In my opinion, a technical note should be applicable worldwide. In the introduction, in Table 1 or again in the methods section, the authors mainly introduce 137Cs in North America (in the discussion they introduce Fukushima and Chernobyl peaks). This radionuclide has some specificities around the world that need to be introduced for a technical note. It will also be interesting to introduce and discuss other complementary approaches that can help to identify the 137Cs, the advantages, disadvantage of these techniques (e.g. Pu isotopes) or again the 'classic' combination of 137Cs and 210Pb to establish an age model.
Authors’ Response:
The focus of our research is soil erosion and sedimentation within North America, which is only one region of the world. We have looked for evidence from Chernobyl and Fukushima 137Cs deposition events, but have not found any secondary peaks or elevated levels of activity in our research. Although there may be challenges applying our study to some parts of the world, we believe that the information is generally applicable and valuable for consideration in all regions. We would encourage others to further develop this approach for use in other regions where its application is not ideally suited. This point is also addressed in a few of our responses to the reviewer’s comments below.
The focus of our research is on the inter-comparability of 137Cs and 210Pb in order to be able to bring data that are 137Cs or 210Pb together. The reviewer is correct that the ideal is to use 137Cs and 210Pb in combination. However, in the number of sediment cores collected in this study (90), the 137Cs profile was of high-quality at times but the 210Pb was not, and vice versa. In these cases, we wanted to explore the use of single tracer. Clearly, it is best to use both in tandem, to have 137Cs support the 210Pb dating.
The reviewer raises the potential of using Pu isotopes. Like 137Cs, Plutonium-239+240 (239+240Pu) is a product of anthropogenic activities associated with nuclear bomb testing with a peak around 1963 similar to 137Cs. There are some advantages and disadvantages associated with 239+240Pu compared to 137Cs, summarized below.
Advantages
- 239+240Pu has a longer half life (24,110 years for 239Pu and 6,561 years for 240Pu) compared to 137Cs with a half-life of 30.2 years, hence approaching detection limits and potential obsolescence (Drexler et al., 2018). So 239+240Pu will continue to be reliably used for a much longer time unlike 137
- Less time consuming if 239+240Pu is analyzed using ICP-MS or Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS) which takes minutes instead of hours that it takes to analyze 137Cs using gamma spectroscopy (Mabit et al., 2018).
- Smaller soil volume needed for analysis (Meusburger et al., 2023)
More relevant to Southern hemisphere location which received low initial 137Cs fallout (Tims et al., 2010) due to the longer half life of 239+240Pu compared to 137Cs
- Much more 239+240Pu was deposited compared to 137Cs (up to six times more), hence much more viable for measurements (i.e., more is always better for measurement).
- Background free, and therefore yielding results that are more precise than obtained for 137Cs (Fifield, 2008).
Disadvantages of 239+240Pu compared to 137Cs
- 239+240Pu is more suitable for field scale measurements while 137Cs is suitable for larger scales from plots to large watersheds, giving it larger applicability.
- While both 137Cs and 210Pb can be derived from gamma spectroscopy, 239+240Pu requires ICP-MS, alpha spectrometry or accelerator mass spectrometry, therefore there is no option of acquiring both 239+240Pu and 210Pb from a single run of sample (i.e., there will always be an additional cost and time if used to validate 210Pb).
We will include in a revised manuscript, the following statement: “Plutonium (Pu) may replace 137Cs in the future due to concerns of half-life and persistence as a dating tool. In essence, 239+240Pu has the same source and deposition mechanism as 137Cs. Its longer half-life will simply make its peak measurable when 137Cs is no longer measurable.”
Citations
Drexler, J.Z., Fuller C.C., and Archfield S.: The approaching obsolescence of 137Cs dating of wetland soils in North America, Quaternary Science Reviews, 199: 83 – 96, doi:10.1016/j.quascirev.2018.08.028, 2018.
Mabit, L., Bernard, C., Yi, A.L.Z., Fulajtar, E., Dercon, G., Zaman, M., Toloza, A., Heng, L.: Promoting the use of isotopic techniques to combat soil erosion: An overview of the key role played by the SWMCN subprogramme of the Joint FAO/IAEA division over the last 20 years, Land Degradation and Development, VOLUME, 1-15. doi:10.1002/ldr.3016, 2018.
Meusburger, K., Porto, P., Waldis, J.K., and Alewell, C.: Validating plutonium-239+249 as a novel soil redistribution tracer – a comparison to measured sediment yield, Soil, 9: 399 – 409. doi:10.5194/soil-9-399-2023, 2023.
Fifield, L. K.: Accelerator mass spectrometry of the actinides, Quaternary Geochronology, 3: 276-290. doi:10.1016/j.quageo.2007.10.003, 2008.
Tims, S.G., Everett S.E., Fifield L.K., Hancock G.J., and Bartley, R.: Plutonium as a tracer of soil and sediment movement in the Herbert River, Australia, Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research 268: 1150 – 1154. doi:10.1016/j.nimb.2009.10.121, 2010.
If I understand correctly, the authors compare the efficiency of both 137Cs age models (using 1954 and/or 1963 peaks) with the 210Pb model after the identification of ‘high-quality profiles’. To me, these two approaches are complementary. Most studies using lake sediments, for example, validate their 210Pb age model by comparing the continuous lead chronology with the 137Cs peaks (1954 and 1963). The authors state that they use this combination, but this information is not clearly stated in the text (or I may have misunderstood them). Do they compare the validity of the 210Pb models in the conventional way (I don't think so) or simply by comparing the 137Cs and 210Pb profiles, which they think are of good quality?
Authors’ Response:
We agree. As noted in our responses to the reviewer’s comments below, the 210Pb and 137Cs techniques are complementary, providing different methods of dating sediments. 210Pb provides a more complex result, using a constant supply rate model to reveal trends in sedimentation, whereas 137Cs provides a simple result (i.e., an average sedimentation rate). Together, they provide a more robust means of dating sediments.
However, the focus of our research was to explore the possibility of using them interchangeably. Not all cores provide high quality 137Cs and 210Pb data for the purposes of dating, so having multiple techniques increases the utility of sediment cores that are collected, often at great expense. That is, if one of the two radioisotopes has a high-quality profile while the other one does not, either could be used to maximize the data of interest (in our case, organic carbon (OC) sequestration rate), instead of discarding a core because one of the radioisotopes is undesirable.
Having multiple techniques raises the obvious question, “Which is better?”. In our paper, we do not intend to identify which technique is better; we are attempting instead to compare the two techniques, highlighting the pros and cons of each, and assessing the degree to which they can be used interchangeably when one may not apply to a given core. Also, as noted in our responses below, we don’t view 137Cs data as a means to validate 210Pb results. Our perspective is that 210Pb and 137Cs provide two different measures of sedimentation rate—separate, but complementary—providing a better understanding of the sedimentation history.
At various points in the manuscript, the authors emphasize the simplicity of measuring 137Cs compared with 210Pb. This statement is true if researchers use alpha spectrometry, but as reported in some recent reviews (cited by the authors), studies using alpha spectrometry are decreasing, while gamma spectrometry is increasingly used. This technique makes it easy to obtain 137Cs, 210Pb and 241Am. At the end of the introduction, the authors state that "this study helps to reduce the uncertainty in studies that rely on 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating". If you have access to both radionuclides with gamma spectrometry, you don't have to choose between the two because you have access to both radionuclides. The authors should justify why it is important to be able to run the lead-210 and 137Cs models separately.
Authors’ Response:
A good question, why do we use both alpha and gamma spectroscopy when both 210Pb and 137Cs can be measured using gamma? This is addressed in our responses to the comments below. In brief, the quality of data for 210Pb using gamma spectroscopy is not as good as 137Cs, and, the analytical requirements are substantially greater. Even with the best equipment and analytical procedures for measuring 210Pb with gamma, we often use alpha spectroscopy to confirm gamma measures and generate better data. In our laboratory we have many gamma and alpha spectrometers, so we have the luxury to use both.
The authors of this paper have done important field and analytical work that deserves to be published in an open access database. This will allow other researchers to evaluate their work and share these data with the community. I recommend that the authors make this dataset available for the revised version.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this comment. We have provided a summary of our analyses in this manuscript, and we are preparing an extensive data report for publication.
I recommend publishing this article after revision.
General comments:
Line 13: replace measuring with reconstructing?
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for the suggestion. As we are measuring rates of sedimentation and OC accumulation in the sediments, we have opted to stay with the word “measuring”.
Line 14: You mention 'a single point' when you actually mention two in the rest of the sentence (1954 and 1963). There may be other regional peaks (1986, 2011) or even more local ones.
Authors’ Response:
It is true that there may be regional peaks, or even local variations in peaks. There are two time-markers or points-of-interest associated with 137Cs fallout: the onset and the peak. Atmospheric deposition has varied over time and around the globe. In the Americas, 137Cs deposition has been dominated by the thermonuclear activity between 1958 and 1963. This deposition has not been uniform, and regional and local variation is associated with variation in weather (wind and precipitation) during that period. In our studies in Central and South America, 137Cs levels are about one half of those in North America due to historical global weather patterns. We have also observed the local influence of rain shadowing by mountains. So, we agree that 137Cs deposition is regional and there is potential for regionally specific peaks. For this reason, we use non-eroded reference field sites to deal with regional variation in deposition, and we use multiple local sampling sites and repeated sampling (changes in values over time) to deal with local variation in deposition. We have looked for evidence from Chernobyl and Fukushima events but have not found any secondary peaks or elevated levels of activity in our research in the Americas.
Since Line 14 is in the abstract we will add the following text to the Discussion section in the revised manuscript to clarify: “Recognizing that there may be regional or local variation in peaks, we used non-eroded 137Cs reference sites to deal with regional variation in deposition, and we used multiple sampling sites within wetlands to assess local variation in deposition. Further, we looked for evidence from Chernobyl and Fukushima nuclear events in our data but found none (data not shown).”
Line 19: You compare your 137Cs age models with the 210Pbxs age model? How?
Authors’ Response:
It would be more accurate to state that 137Cs provides a measure of the average rate of sedimentation between the 137Cs time markers (1954 and 1963) and the date of sampling, whereas 210Pbex uses a continuous rate of supply model to provide an estimate of sedimentation over time prior to the date of sampling. These rates of sedimentation, although very different in their means of determination, can be compared in the context of their periods of interest. In our study, we are interested in the rates of sedimentation over the past ~60 years.
We will revise the text in the revised manuscript:
Original: “To this end, we propose a decision framework for screening 137Cs and 210Pb profiles into high- and low-quality sediment profiles, and we compare dating using the 1954 and 1963 time-markers.”
Revised: “To this end, we propose a decision framework for screening 137Cs and 210Pb profiles into high- and low-quality sediment profiles, and we compare dating using the 1954 and 1963 time-markers, i.e., the rates of sedimentation and, consequently, OC sequestration over the past ~60 years.”
Line 24: Perhaps a broader view here to introduce the importance of your topic? Area occupied by these wetlands in the world, Canada, etc.? Data about carbon sequestration by these wetlands?
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for your suggestion.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “Wetlands in agricultural landscapes serve a crucial role in providing habitat for wildlife, regulating climate, improving water quality, and preventing floods. Moreover, these wetlands have the potential to sequester organic carbon (OC), making them candidates to be natural climate solutions by offsetting carbon emissions. To estimate the OC sequestration potential, it is critical to establish precise measurements to quantify wetland OC sequestration, develop strategies to promote conservation and restoration efforts, incorporate carbon credits in the carbon markets, and validate the wetland-based ecosystem services.”
Revised: “Wetlands in agricultural landscapes serve a crucial role in providing habitat for wildlife, regulating climate, improving water quality, and reducing floods. Moreover, these wetlands have the potential to sequester organic carbon (OC), making them candidates to be natural climate solutions by offsetting carbon emissions. These wetlands embedded in agricultural landscapes are recognized as temperate inland wetland soils. The global carbon stock of temperate inland wetland soils is estimated to be 46 Pg C to a 2 m depth, while Canada’s temperate inland wetland soils are estimated to contain 4.6 Pg C (Bridgham et al., 2006.Compared to peatlands, the rapid rate of OC sequestration and the larger spatial extent of temperate inland wetland soils can help contribute significantly to regional or national carbon sequestration (Bridgham et al., 2006; Nahlik and Fennessey, 2016).
Canada encompasses around 25% of the world's wetlands, with an area of approximately 1.29 million square kilometers, which accounts for 13% of the country's terrestrial area (Environment and Climate Change Canada, 2016), highlighting the global importance of these wetlands.
Unfortunately, there is extremely limited data on the OC sequestration rates in these wetlands. To estimate the OC sequestration potential of these wetlands, it is critical to establish precise measurements to quantify wetland OC sequestration, develop strategies to promote conservation and restoration efforts, incorporate carbon credits in the carbon markets, and validate the wetland-based ecosystem services.”
Citations:
Bridgham, S. D., Megonigal, J. P., Keller, J. K., Bliss, N. B., and Trettin, C.: The carbon balance of North American wetlands, Wetlands, 26(4), 889-916, doi:10.1672/0277-5212(2006)26[889:TCBONA]2.0.CO;2, 2006.
Environment and Climate Change Canada (ECCC): Canadian Environmental Sustainability Indicators: Extent of Canada's Wetlands, ECCC, Gatineau, Quebec, www.ec.gc.ca/indicateurs-indicators/default.asp?lang=en&n=69E2D25B-1, last access: 10 July 2024, 2016.
Nahlik, A. M. and Fennessy, M. S.: Carbon storage in US wetlands. Nature Communications, 7(1), 1-9, doi:10.1038/ncomms13835, 2016.
Line 25: critical -> important?
Authors’ Response:
We will replace the word “critical” by the word “important”.
Line 40: formed -> produced during?
Authors’ Response:
We will replace the world “formed” by the phrase “produced during”.
Line 41: 1963 in the northern hemisphere. What about the southern hemisphere? If the article is to be a technical note applicable worldwide, it needs to give a more global view of 137Cs fallout (not just the 1963 peak).
Authors’ Response:
We agree that it would be ideal if this technical note provided a more global view. Although there may be challenges applying our study to some parts of the world, we believe that the information is generally applicable and valuable for consideration in all regions. We encourage others to further develop this approach for use in other regions where its application is not ideally suited.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “137Cs is an artificial radioisotope which was formed due to thermonuclear bomb testing in the 1950s and 1960s, with the onset of atmospheric deposition in 1954 and a peak in 1963 (Ritchie and McHenry, 1990).”
Revised: “137Cs is an artificial radioisotope that was produced during thermonuclear bomb testing in the 1950s and 1960s, with the onset of atmospheric deposition in 1954 and a peak in 1963 (Ritchie and McHenry, 1990). Although there may be challenges applying our study to some parts of the world, we believe that the information is generally applicable and valuable for consideration in all regions. We encourage others to further customize this approach for use in other regions where Cs deposition histories vary.”
Line 44: 1954 and 1963 - 1954 or 1963. Most publications using the 137Cs age model use both the 1954 and 1963 time points to construct their age models. When using two time points, the sedimentation rate is not always (often) constant.
Authors’ Response:
It is true that when using two time points, the sedimentation rate is not always constant. Using the two time-markers for 137Cs, we do not expect the sedimentation rates to be equal as there may be differences associated with the processes operating between 1954 and 1963. However, we do expect the sedimentation rates to be similar. This redundancy in measurement is largely a means to deal with the uncertainties in identifying either time-marker alone.
We also recognize that the sedimentation rate between sampling and 1954 and 1963 will not likely be constant. Much of the sedimentation that occurs in these wetlands is impacted by the land use and land management practices in the catchments that surround them, and that land use and land management has changed significantly over that 60-year time period. This is why we couple 137Cs with 210Pb techniques.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: ”137Cs dating assumes constant sedimentation rates measured since 1954 and 1963.”
Revised: “137Cs dating assumes constant sedimentation rates measured since 1954 or 1963. In using the two time-markers for 137Cs, we do not expect the sedimentation rates to be equal but we do expect them to be similar.”
Lines 47-48: In Europe the story is more complex and it is sometimes difficult to distinguish the 1963 peak from the 1986 peak. Authors should introduce additional markers (241Am, Pu isotopes) to help distinguish these peaks and avoid errors in age modeling.
Authors’ Response:
We have the capacity to analyze 239+240Pu with alpha spectroscopy, and we are moving to that isotope as a replacement for 137Cs as 137Cs levels diminish (30.18-year half-life versus 6,000+ year half-life). In the Americas, we do not see evidence of the 1986 137Cs peak which is observed in Europe, so we have not used Pu to distinguish the 1986 137Cs peak from the 1963 peak.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “137Cs has an additional time-marker for Europe in 1986 due to the Chernobyl nuclear accident and for Japan in 2011 due to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident (Foucher et al., 2021), indicating that OC sequestration estimates can be derived for different timescales.”
Revised: “137Cs has an additional time-marker for Europe in 1986 due to the Chernobyl nuclear accident and for Japan in 2011 due to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident (Foucher et al., 2021), indicating that OC sequestration estimates can be derived for different timescales. In the Americas, we do not see evidence of the 1986 or 2011 137Cs peaks which are observed in Europe and Japan, respectively, so we did not need to use other radioisotope techniques (e.g., 239+240Pu) to distinguish the 1986 or 2011 137Cs peak from the 1963 137Cs peak.”
Line 54: I don't agree that the 210Pb models are "complicated", as the authors have already stated in the abstract. Lead models provide complementary information than 137Cs age models. There are many R codes that facilitate the establishment of 210Pb models (e.g. SERAC model, Bruel and Sabatier, 2020).
Authors’ Response:
We agree that the 210Pb and 137Cs techniques are complementary, providing different methods of dating sediments. 210Pb provides a more complex result, using a supply rate model to reveal trends in sedimentation, whereas 137Cs provides a simple result, an average sedimentation rate. Neither method is complicated.
We will clarify the text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “137C dating calculations are less complicated than 210Pb, with little modelling knowledge or expertise needed (Breithaupt et al., 2018).”
Revised: “137Cs dating provides a simple result (an average sedimentation rate), while 210Pb dating provides a more complex result (using a supply rate model to reveal trends in sedimentation rates).”
Line 64: remove 'for’
Authors’ Response:
The word “for” will be removed in the revised manuscript.
Line 67: or mass accumulation rate?
Authors’ Response:
Yes. We will replace “sediment accumulation rate” with “mass accumulation rate”.
Line 70: only cite Appleby and Odfield?
Authors’ Response:
Yes. We will remove the other citations, citing only Appleby and Oldfield (1978) as suggested.
Line 71: In my opinion, 137Cs provide temporal markers as mentioned by the author, but not 210Pbex, which provides a continuous age model. The 137Cs help to validate the 210Pb model.
Authors’ Response:
We agree.
We will clarify by adding the following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “Both 137Cs and 210Pb provide suitable time-markers and a longer time horizon compared to direct measurements using the time-marker of horizons (2-10 years) to study sediment accretion and, subsequently, OC sequestration rates in wetlands (Bernal and Mitsch, 2013; Villa and Bernal, 2018).”
Revised: “Both 137Cs and 210Pb provide suitable time-markers and a longer time horizon compared to direct measurements using the time-marker of horizons (2-10 years) to study sediment accretion and, subsequently, OC sequestration rates in wetlands (Bernal and Mitsch, 2013; Villa and Bernal, 2018). In this study, we compared the average OC sequestration rate derived from 137Cs temporal markers with the progressive OC sequestration rates derived using a constant rate of supply model applied to 210Pb.”
Line 77: If you do gamma spectrometry, you get both210Pbex, which provides a continuous age model. The 137Cs help to validate the 210Pb model.
Authors’ Response:
We agree. See next response.
Line 77: If you perform gamma spectrometry you obtain both 137Cs and 210Pb (and 241Am) and you don’t have any extra cost, time and specialized equipment.
Authors’ Response:
Using the most common gamma spectrometers (Coaxial Ge—old technology), there is greater uncertainty (smaller peak resolution) in the low energy region of the spectrum (< 100 keV) where 210Pb is measured, relative to 137Cs (662 keV). In our laboratory, we use more recent technology, BEGe gamma spectrometers, which provide a broader range of high efficiency across the spectrum, allowing reasonably accurate measurement of both 137Cs and 210Pb.
Even with the newer technology, we find that performing gamma spectrometry on 210Pb takes extra time and cost. The prepared samples must be sealed for weeks before analysis of 210Pb by gamma spectrometry; these sealed samples are necessarily small and, therefore, take longer to analyze (24-36 hrs for 210Pb vs. 12-16 hrs for 137Cs), which represents additional cost. In contrast, when we analyze for 137Cs only, samples can be large and can be analyzed relatively quickly.
Further, in our experience, there is much greater uncertainty in 210Pb results than 137Cs results using gamma spectrometry, and we often use alpha spectroscopy to corroborate 210Pb results.
In this manuscript, we don’t view 137Cs data as a means to validate 210Pb results. Our perspective is that 210Pb and 137Cs provide two different measures of sedimentation rate—separate, but complementary—providing a better understanding of the sedimentation history.
Line 85: change intact through undisturbed?
Authors’ Response:
We will change “intact” to “undisturbed”.
Lines 86-87: methods?
Authors’ Response:
We will move lines 86-87 to the “Methods” in the revised manuscript.
Line 94: This figure should be in the main manuscript.
Authors’ Response:
We will move the map (Supplementary Figure 1) to the main manuscript.
Line 95: change 'intact’ by undisturbed ?
Authors’ Response:
We will change “intact” to “undisturbed.
Lines 114-119: the authors must discuss what can change the shape of these peaks (e.g. bioturbation, erosion phenomena, deposition of 137Cs-labelled particles, climatic events, ...), see existing bibliographic reviews.
Authors’ Response:
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
“The magnitude and shape of the 137Cs peaks observed in the sediments can be affected by the rate of atmospheric deposition of 137Cs, which is obviously affected by the number and magnitude of emission events as well as the weather conditions following these events (UNSCEAR, 2000). The magnitude and shape of these peaks are also impacted by the movement of water and sediment within the catchment of each wetland during the development of the peaks (Milan et al., 1995; Zarrinabadi et al., 2023). Here, changes in the shape of the peaks are caused by upward and downward movement of the sediment within the sediment profile (the movement of 137Cs through diffusion (Klaminder et al., 2012) is presumed negligible). Any form of bioturbation can cause an upward and downward mixing of the 137Cs in the profile, resulting in the attenuation of the peak (Robbins et al., 1977). Even wave action during the period of atmospheric deposition will have a similar attenuation effect (Andersen et al., 2000; Zarrinabadi et al., 2023). Following peak atmospheric deposition, soil erosion and the accumulation of sediment will deliver sediments to the top of the profile, and those sediments may be higher or lower in concentration depending on the degree of preferential sediment transport and the associate enrichment or depletion of 137Cs in the added sediment (Zarrinabadi et al., 2023).”
Citations:
Andersen, T. J., Mikkelsen, O. A., Møller, A. L., and Pejrup, M.: Deposition and mixing depths on some European intertidal mudflats based on 210Pb and 137Cs activities, Continental Shelf Research, 20(12-13), 1569-1591, doi: 10.1016/S0278-4343(00)00038-8, 2000.
Milan, C. S., Swenson, E. M., Turner, R. E., and Lee, J. M.: Assessment of the method for estimating sediment accumulation rates: Louisiana salt marshes, Journal of Coastal Research, 296-307, https://www.jstor.org/stable/4298341, 1995.
Robbins, J.A., Krezoski, J.R. and Mozley, S.C.: Radioactivity in sediments of the Great Lakes: post-depositional redistribution by deposit-feeding organisms, Earth Planet. Sci. Lett., 36, 325–333, doi: 10.1016/0012-821X(77)90217-5, 1977.
Klaminder, J., Appleby, P., Crook, P., and Renberg, I.: Post-deposition diffusion of 137Cs in lake sediment: Implications for radiocaesium dating, Sedimentology, 59: 2259–2267, doi:10.1111/j.1365-3091.2012.01343.x, 2012.
United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR), 2000. Sources and Effects of Ionizing Radiation, V1, United Nations, New York, doi:10.18356/49c437f9-en, 2000.
Zarrinabadi, E., Lobb, D. A., Enanga, E., Badiou, P., and Creed, I. F.: Agricultural activities lead to sediment infilling of wetlandscapes in the Canadian Prairies: Assessment of soil erosion and sedimentation fluxes, Geoderma, 436, 116525, doi:10.1016/j.geoderma.2023.116525, 2023.
Line 140: The authors should describe where these reference samples were collected and describe the environment (e.g. undisturbed grassland?). Authors use one reference core per site? This part was not clear for me
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this suggestion. The details of the number of reference sites used to generate reference 137Cs estimates are provided below which can also be found in the corresponding citation.
For the 3 wetlands in AB (53° N and 113° W)—2 reference sites used (a total of 24 sediment cores) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Zarrinabadi et al., 2023).
For the 7 wetlands in SK (51° N and 107° W)—1 reference site used (a total of 3 sediment cores dividing into 20 samples) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Sutherland, 1991).
For the 9 wetlands in SK (51° N and 104° W)—1 reference site used (a total of 3 sediment cores dividing into 20 samples) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Sutherland, 1991).
For the 5 wetlands in MB (50° N and 100° W)—3 reference sites used (a total of 27 sediment cores) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Zarrinabadi et al., 2023).
For the 3 wetlands in ON (43.3° N and 80.3° W)—1 reference site used (a total of 18 sediment cores compositing into 2 samples) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Kachanoski and Von Bertoldi, 1996).
For the 3 wetlands in ON (45.6° N and 74.8° W)—1 reference site used (a total of 18 sediment cores compositing into 2 samples) to generate reference 137Cs estimates (Kachanoski and Von Bertoldi, 1996).
We have been successful in using catchment budgeting as an alternative method of establishing reference 137Cs values for specific wetlands, but this is far more time consuming and expensive than the standard approach.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript where we describe the environment and estimated location (from our wetland sites) of the reference sites:
“Ideally, reference sites are large, open, level, non-eroded area, usually in forage or grassland since the 1950s, and within 10 km of the site of interest. In this study, it was not possible to identify a suitable reference site near every wetland; in fact, it is normally extremely difficult to find reference sites in agricultural landscapes. However, we were able to identify reference sites used in other studies within 50 kms except nine wetlands in SK (51° N and 104° W)) which were ~150 kms away from the reference site. Although this was not considered ideal, it was considered acceptable.”
We will also revise 137Cs reference inventory values the in the Discussion section of the revised manuscript to present 137Cs reference inventory values near our wetland sites. As mentioned earlier, details on the reference sites can be found in the corresponding citation.
“The mean 137Cs reference inventory values in the four provinces of Canada where our wetland sites are located were used in this instance. The mean 137Cs reference inventory value estimated to be 1,684 Bq m-2 (coefficient of variation (CV) = 49%) for three AB wetland sites (53° N and 113° W) (Zarrinabadi et al. 2023), 989 Bq m-2 (CV = 20.5%) for seven SK wetland sites (51° N and 107° W) (Sutherland, 1991), 1,008 Bq m-2 (CV = 17.9%) for nine SK wetland sites (51° N and 104° W) (Sutherland, 1991), 1,430 Bq m-2 (CV = 8.6%) for five MB wetland sites (50° N and 100° W) (Zarrinabadi et al. 2023), 1,447 Bq m-2 (CV = 8.8%) for three ON wetland sites (43.3° N and 80.3° W) (Kachanoski and Von Bertoldi, 1996) and 1,534 Bq m-2 (CV = 1.75%) for three ON wetland sites (45.6° N and 74.8° W) (Kachanoski and Von Bertoldi, 1996).”
Citations:
Kachanoski, R. G. and Von Bertoldi, P.: Monitoring soil loss and redistribution using 137Cs, COESA Report No. RES/MON-008/96, Green Plan Research Sub-program, Agriculture and Agri-food Canada, London, Ontario, 1996.
Sutherland, R. A.: Examination of caesium-137 areal activities in control (uneroded) locations, Soil technology, 4(1), 33-50, doi:10.1016/0933-3630(91)90038-O, 1991.
Zarrinabadi, E., Lobb, D. A., Enanga, E., Badiou, P., and Creed, I. F.: Agricultural activities lead to sediment infilling of wetlandscapes in the Canadian Prairies: Assessment of soil erosion and sedimentation fluxes, Geoderma, 436, 116525, doi:10.1016/j.geoderma.2023.116525, 2023.
Line 164: Use organic carbon instead of OC in the title.
Authors’ Response:
We will replace “OC” with “organic carbon” in the title.
Line 169: the authors should explain how they get from g.cm2.year to Mg.ha.year-1 (representativeness of the core to extrapolate the value to the ha scale?)
Authors’ Response:
Here, we multiplied g cm-2 yr --1 by 100 to get to Mg ha-1 yr-1.
We reported the data in Mg ha-1 yr-1 since it is widely used standardized unit to report OC sequestration rate data allowing comparability with other studies.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
“Here, unit conversion is applied to report OC sequestration rate estimates in Mg ha-1 yr-1 from g cm-2 yr-1 for easy standardization and comparability with other studies.”
Line 171 - 173: why do the authors not use the 241Am to more clearly identify the 1963 peak (when the shape of the peak is not clear)? If they are not sure about the peak, why not use the onset of 137Cs in 1954 instead of remove the profile from their selection (maybe I don’t have understand here)?
Authors’ Response:
We recognize the potential for the use of 241Am as an alternative to 137Cs, but we are moving towards 239+240Pu as an alternative. 241Am has similar challenges as 210Pb measured using gamma spectrometry: 241Am is detected in the low-energy range of the spectrum where detection is less accurate; i.e., it is more difficult to distinguish the energy peak from the background noise in the spectrum. We are not confident that 241Am would provide any greater ability to distinguish 1963 peaks in the sediment profile. The problem we are observing is the presence of wide peaks or multiple peaks spanning multiple sample increments, and this problem will exist with either 241Am or 137Cs.
Line 178: if you use density correction to build your age models, you should describe it in this section.
Authors’ Response:
Yes, we used a density correction to build our continuous age models. The continuous age models were based on mass depth (g cm-2) which is a function of sediment density, and not depth (cm).
We will clarify the sentence by revising the following sentence.
Original: “The CFCS model uses the log-linear relationship of 210Pbex with depth and converts 210Pbex to the sediment accumulation rate and, consequently, the OC sequestration rate.”
Revised: “The CFCS model uses the log-linear relationship of 210Pbex with mass depth and converts 210Pbex to the sediment accumulation rate and, consequently, the OC sequestration rate.”
Line 230: repositioned? what does that mean?
Authors’ Response:
For some profiles, the highest activity of 137Cs in the sediment profile was not always used as the basis for estimating the OC sequestration rate since 1963. Some sediment profiles can have very high total quantities of 137Cs, or profile inventories, with some of the post-1963 deposition of 137Cs received in 137Cs-enriched sediments from the surrounding catchment. Sediments that have undergone substantial preferential detachment and entrainment on their pathway into a wetland can have very high concentrations of 137Cs, and when interlayered with sediments that are not so enriched can generate multiple 137Cs peaks in the sediment profile peaks after 1963. The high 137Cs profile inventory values along with interlayers of sediment would suggest this phenomenon. In such “noisy” profiles associated with higher 137Cs inventories, the first discernible peak after the sharp rise from the onset of 137Cs activity and exceeding or around the reference value was assumed to be the original 137Cs peak.
To be clear, the multiple 137Cs peaks and elevated inventories referred to here are not presumed to be associated with Chernobyl and Fukushima events. When multiple peaks are observed, they are local and not regional in nature, ruling out the global impacts of Chernobyl and Fukushima.
In the revised manuscript, further clarification can be found in the Discussion section and in the revised text of the next comment.
Line 231: How do the authors explain the high stocks of these cores? Are these cores in an accumulation area?
Authors’ Response:
The high stocks could, partly, be attributed to the location of the wetlands from which the cores were collected. The wetlands were situated with agricultural landscapes, where there was a large potential for high organic matter input from the surrounding landscape (i.e., allochthonous organic matter inputs), and due to nutrient-rich runoff from the surrounding landscape to the wetland, there was also a large potential for high organic matter generation in situ (i.e., autochthonous organic matter inputs), with consequences on OC stocks skewed towards larger values.
We will add following text to the revised manuscript:
Original: “Of the 62 high-quality 137Cs profiles, 4 (6.5%) were repositioned to capture the 137Cs enriched sediments post 1963. In these profiles, which had a cumulative 137Cs inventory value > 1,200 Bq m-2, the depth that corresponded to 137Cs cumulative inventory value of ~500 Bq m-2 was considered as the 1963 time-marker.”
Revised: “Of the 62 high-quality 137Cs profiles, 4 (6.5%) were repositioned to capture the 137Cs enriched sediments post 1963. In these profiles, which had a cumulative 137Cs inventory value > 1,200 Bq m-2, the depth that corresponded to 137Cs cumulative inventory value of ~500 Bq m-2 was considered as the 1963 time-marker. The high total quantities of 137Cs profile inventories can be attributed to receiving 137Cs enriched sediments from the surrounding landscape. Sediments that have undergone substantial preferential detachment and entrainment on their pathway into a wetland can have very high concentrations of 137Cs, and when interlayered with sediments that are not so enriched can generate multiple 137Cs peaks in the sediment profile peaks after 1963. These observed multiple peaks are local and not regional in nature, ruling out the association with Chernobyl and Fukushima events.”
Lines 257-259: This part corresponds to the methodology already described in the Materials and Methods section. I will delete it from the results
Authors’ Response:
We will delete the following sentence from the results in the revised manuscript.
Original: “The comparability of 137Cs vs. 210Pb derived OC sequestration rates was investigated through both visual inspection of the Q-Q plots and the Cramer-von Mises test which assigned significance of the distance of the points from the 1:1 line assessed with p-value and the AIC.”
Revised: *TEXT DELETED*
Line 310: To the best of my knowledge, you need a complete decay profile to apply the CRS model, it's the same for the CFCS model? Can you give a reference for this statement?
Authors’ Response:
Yes, we did achieve a complete decay profile as described in Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez (2012).
We will clarify this in the revised manuscript:
Original: “For example, the significantly smaller number of suitable 210Pb profiles (47/90 = 52%) due to lack of a complete decay profile indicates that 210Pb dating is more prone to disturbance than 137Cs (79/90 = 88%).
Revised: “For example, the significantly smaller number of suitable 210Pb profiles (47/90 = 52%) due to lack of a complete decay profile (following CFCS model as described in Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez, 2012) indicates that 210Pb dating is more prone to disturbance than 137Cs (79/90 = 88%).”
Line 311: I didn't understand if you corrected your 210Pb age model with density to avoid perturbations/inconsistencies/soil properties? please clarify.
Authors’ Response:
Yes, we corrected our 210Pb age model with density to avoid perturbations. We used the methods described in Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez (2012) for the 210Pb age model and used mass depth which controls for compaction unlike the depth-based approach that would respond to compaction and affect the dates. We used mass depth (g cm-2) because it does not respond to compaction and by extension bulk density as described by Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez (2012) and not the depth based (cm) which would be affected by changes in bulk density with consequences on depth.
We will clarify this in the revised manuscript and add the following text to the Methods:
Original: “For example, the significantly smaller number of suitable 210Pb profiles (47/90 = 52%) due to lack of a complete decay profile indicates that 210Pb dating is more prone to disturbance than 137Cs (79/90 = 88%).”
Text added to the Methods section: “Using mass depth (g cm-2) allowed controls for compaction (as described in Sanchez-Cabeza and Ruiz-Fernandez, 2012) unlike the depth-based approach that would respond to compaction and affect the OC sequestration rate estimates.”
Line 326: Fukushima and Chernobyl releases are not 'less', just not recorded in North American lakes or wetlands to the best of my knowledge.
Authors’ Response:
We agree. We revised the text to reflect that Fukushima and Chernobyl releases are not recorded in North American lakes.
Original: “For example, there are additional time-markers corresponding to the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear plant accident and 2011 Fukushima accident, although their effect is less felt in North America due to the substantial distance from the source.”
Revised: “For example, there are additional time-markers corresponding to the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear plant accident and 2011 Fukushima accident, although their effect is not recorded in North America due to the substantial distance from the source.”
Line 331: continuous age model instead of 'can provide multiple time markers?
Authors’ Response:
We will replace “can provide multiple time-markers” with the following text. Please note the previously provided explanation. We compared the average OC sequestration rate derived from 137Cs temporal markers with the progressive OC sequestration rates derived using a constant rate of supply model applied to 210Pb.
Original: “210Pb dating is advantageous because its calculations are based on multiple points and can provide several time-markers—including the 1954 onset and 1963 peak of 137Cs activity—improving the precision of the OC sequestration rates.”
Revised: “210Pb dating is advantageous because its calculations are based on multiple points associated with progressive OC sequestration rates derived using a constant rate of supply model—including the 1954 onset and 1963 peak of 137Cs activity—improving the precision of the OC sequestration rates.”
Line 345 : references for this statement?
Authors’ Response:
We will add the references Li et al. (2010) and Lal (2020) to support this statement:
Li et al. (2010) was already included in the manuscript.
Lal (2020) is now included in the manuscript.
Lal, R. (2020). Soil erosion and gaseous emissions. Applied Sciences, 10, 2784, doi:10.3390/app10082784, 2020.
Line 361: It was not possible to collect a reference site near each wetland?
Authors’ Response:
As noted above, it was not possible to identify a suitable reference site (large, open, level, non-eroded area with 10 km) near each wetland. It is extremely difficult to find such a site in agricultural landscapes. We have been successful in using catchment budgeting as an alternative method of establishing reference 137Cs values for specific wetlands, but that is far more time consuming and expensive than the standard approach.
In section 4.1, the authors should discuss alternative methods that may help to identify the peak of 137Cs (e.g. Pu isotopes).
Authors’ Response:
As noted above, we have the capacity to analyze 239+240Pu with alpha spectroscopy, and we are moving to Pu as a replacement for 137Cs as 137Cs levels diminish. We are into our third half-life for 137Cs (30.18-year half-life versus 6,000+ year half-life).
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript:
“239+240Pu isotopes which, like 137Cs, are a product of nuclear testing can be used to identify the peak of 137Cs. Future research will move to using 239+240Pu as a replacement for 137Cs as 137Cs levels diminish.”
Lines 383-386: very long sentence...
Authors’ Response:
We will simplify the text in the revised manuscript.
Original: “If the 137Cs activity of most of the sediment cores from an individual wetland are noisy with a higher inventory value, then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty because the higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material to the center of the wetland, therefore increasing the quantity of 137Cs from the value that would be expected if no new enriched material was introduced via erosion/lateral flow.”
Revised: “If the 137Cs activity of most of the sediment cores from an individual wetland are noisy with a higher inventory value, then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty. The higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material via erosion/lateral flow to the center of the wetland increasing the quantity of 137Cs.”
Line 416: in the last century?
Authors’ Response:
We will specify the dating technique and its importance in estimating recent OC sequestration rates in the revised text (see below).
Original: “Radiometric dating presents a valuable tool for estimating the OC sequestration potential of wetlands.”
Revised: “Radiometric dating using 137Cs and 210Pb presents a valuable tool for estimating recent OC sequestration potential of wetlands.”
Table 1: Why mention only the 1963 peak if your article is a technical note? Why not present the other peaks (sources of 137Cs) that could be found in other regions of the world? The 1963 peak, which is generally not dated to 1963 in the southern hemisphere? Why not include 241Am, which you may have in your gamma measurements and which may be useful in age modeling? These concepts need to be explained somewhere in your manuscript.
Authors’ Response:
We recognize the potential for the use of 241Am as an alternative to 137Cs; however, 241Am has similar challenges as 210Pb measured using gamma spectrometry: 241Am is detected in the low-energy range of the spectrum where detection is less accurate; i.e., it is more difficult to distinguish the energy peak from the background noise in the spectrum. We are not confident that 241Am would provide any greater ability to distinguish 1963 peaks in the sediment profile. The problem we are observing is wide peaks or multiple peaks spanning multiple sample increments, and this problem will exist with either 241Am or 137Cs.
Figures 2; 3: Mass or mass depth?
Authors’ Response:
It should be mass depth. We will replace “mass” with “mass depth” on the x-axis of relevant plots in Figures 2 and 3 in the first submission and 3 and 4 in the revised manuscript.
Table 3: Most of the disadvantages of the 210Pb listed in this table are related to the alpha spectrometry method, but the 210Pb can also be measured by gamma spectrometry, which is easier to use.
Authors’ Response:
As noted above, we measured 210Pb by both alpha and gamma spectroscopy.
Since we analyze samples for 137Cs using gamma spectroscopy, at the same time we prepare samples for 210Pb using gamma spectroscopy. This requires additional preparation and staging time, and can require more lengthy analysis time, so it is not as simple as getting the two measures at the same time with no extra cost or time.
We find the uncertainty in our 210Pb results derived from gamma spectroscopy can be unacceptably high, so we often rerun samples for 210Pb using alpha spectroscopy. Preparation of samples for alpha spectrometry is trickier, but we have the luxury of having the capacity to use both alpha and gamma spectroscopy. If we had to choose between gamma and alpha for 210Pb, we would choose alpha.
We will add the following bullet points in Table 3 to clarify.
Revised:
Under advantages of 210Pbex
- “Less sample preparation time for gamma analysis compared to alpha.
- Gamma analysis is non-destructive, so samples can be re-analyzed for other analyses compared to alpha.
- Can run multiple samples at a time on a single detector in alpha method.
Under disadvantages of 210Pbex
- Uncertainty of 210Pbex results derived from gamma analysis can be higher than alpha.”
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-1162-AC1
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1162', Anonymous Referee #2, 15 Jul 2024
This manuscript compares two radiometric techniques as complementary methods for estimating carbon sequestration in wetland soils. The methods for dating using cesium-137 and lead-210 radioisotopes were well explained and the results on the radioisotope profiles were also presented and interpreted well. Given the increasing interest in applying radiometry to the soil carbon sequestration, I think this paper can contribute to disseminating well-documented radiometric methods among the researchers in the various biogeoscience fields. However, I had some concerns about the focus of the current version and a couple of critical methodological details. To be qualified as a technical note, the authors may need to strengthen the “technical” part of the manuscript, and above all technical recommendations readers would expect for this article type. I would also thank the authors if clarify core selection criteria and the limitation of LOI as a measure of soil organic carbon as detailed below.
<Major comments>
- The objective of the technical notes paper
The stated objective (“This research paper compares the use of 137Cs- and 210Pb to estimate recent OC sequestration rates in intact (i.e., not directly 85 impaired by human activities) freshwater mineral soil wetlands located on agricultural landscapes”. “This study helps reduce uncertainty in studies that rely on 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating”) seems more relevant for regular research articles. Given the article type (technical notes), providing more concrete goals would help readers recognize the main contribution of this paper (e.g., providing specific recommendations for selecting better methods or procedures depending on wetland types). In this context, the last sentence of the abstract, along with some concluding part of the Discussion section (lines 400-413), needs also to be more articulated in providing technical suggestions based on the compared results. In terms of providing technical suggestions, the authors can be more straightforward in specifying which methods are more relevant in which types of samples.
- Criteria for selecting suitable cores
Different criteria were used for selecting suitable profiles of Cs and Pb (Line 121-124). First, more detailed descriptions would help readers understand the rationales of the employed criteria. Second, as the triplicate samples were analyzed for each site, please clarify if the selection criteria were applied to each single profile or an averaged result from three replicates per site. Third, it would provide more quantitative evaluation of the selection if it were clearly stated which proportion of the three profiles (e.g., at least two or all three) fulfill selection requirements.
- The term organic C
The authors used organic C to refer to the organic matter content measured by LOI (“OC content was calculated from OC concentration in % measured by loss-on-ignition method”). LOI is a measure of organic matter, but cannot represent organic carbon quantitatively. The limitation of LOI as a measure of organic matter is well known, such as the ignition of non-organic particles at high temperatures). In my opinion, the results of LOI measurements should be reported as LOI (%). Equating LOI with OC would be unacceptable for many soil scientists. I would recommend measuring and reporting OC. If this is not possible, LOI (%) or OM (%) should be used with a prior definition.
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- Title: if C accumulation occurs mainly in the wetland soils, the title should end like “freshwater wetland soils”.
- Line (L) 23: Without citing any relevant papers, this sentence assumes that wetlands function as C sinks, although wetlands can also function as C sources under degrading conditions or when CH4 emissions are taken into consideration. Please refine the text based these considerations and provide at least a few relevant papers.
- L 56 “210Pb is a naturally occurring radionuclide of 238U”: Do you mean “…radionuclide deriving from 238U?”
- L 66: It would be more reader-friendly if you explain “unsupported” and “supported” by adding a few more words.
- L 76: Please remove “according to” and instead put the references in parentheses.
- L 87: Parentheses here appear unnecessary.
- L 108-108 “the high-purity germanium detectors, Broad Energy Germanium detectors (BE6530) and high-resolution Small Anode Germanium well detectors (GSW275L) (Mirion Technologies, Inc., Atlanta, GA, USA)”: It is not clear whether BE6530 and GSW275L are high-purity and high-resolution detectors, respectively.
- L 112: This would be a good place to describe any QA/QC measures that were employed to guarantee the analytical accuracy.
- L 232-238: Don’t these exceptions demand a refinement of the criteria? For instance, additional criteria can be prescribed considering these exceptions. It would be too arbitrary if we have to accept the failed profiles based on subjective visual inspections.
- L 306: Please include a phrase mentioning OC data like “combined with OC measurements” following “both radioisotopes dating”.
- L 256-261: Please combine these sentences into a single combed paragraph. The following 2-3 sentences throughout the Results section also seem untidy, requiring some editorial refinement.
- L 383-390: Given the article type (technical note) and the goal of suggesting good practices, it would be helpful if you provide some recommendations about the highly disturbed cases.
- L 394: Please cite the relevant figure.
- L 395-398: This assessment is not fully in line with the results shown in Table 2 (particularly the four mean values of C sequestration rates) and the main conclusion on the compatibility of both methods. Don’t you need to mention at least the results (Table 2) here?
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Irena Creed, 06 Aug 2024
Response to comments of reviewer #2:
Note that the reviewer’s original comments are in italics.
This manuscript compares two radiometric techniques as complementary methods for estimating carbon sequestration in wetland soils. The methods for dating using cesium-137 and lead-210 radioisotopes were well explained and the results on the radioisotope profiles were also presented and interpreted well. Given the increasing interest in applying radiometry to the soil carbon sequestration, I think this paper can contribute to disseminating well-documented radiometric methods among the researchers in the various biogeoscience fields. However, I had some concerns about the focus of the current version and a couple of critical methodological details. To be qualified as a technical note, the authors may need to strengthen the “technical” part of the manuscript, and above all technical recommendations readers would expect for this article type. I would also thank the authors if clarify core selection criteria and the limitation of LOI as a measure of soil organic carbon as detailed below.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this feedback. We will add clarification to the revised manuscript by elaborating the selection criteria, incorporating technical recommendations at the end of discussion, and providing limitation of LOI as a measure of soil organic carbon (OC). The points mentioned in this are also addressed in a few of our responses to the reviewer’s comments below.
<Major comments>
The objective of the technical notes paper
The stated objective (“This research paper compares the use of 137Cs- and 210Pb to estimate recent OC sequestration rates in intact (i.e., not directly 85 impaired by human activities) freshwater mineral soil wetlands located on agricultural landscapes”. “This study helps reduce uncertainty in studies that rely on 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating”) seems more relevant for regular research articles. Given the article type (technical notes), providing more concrete goals would help readers recognize the main contribution of this paper (e.g., providing specific recommendations for selecting better methods or procedures depending on wetland types). In this context, the last sentence of the abstract, along with some concluding part of the Discussion section (lines 400-413), needs also to be more articulated in providing technical suggestions based on the compared results. In terms of providing technical suggestions, the authors can be more straightforward in specifying which methods are more relevant in which types of samples.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this feedback. We will add specific objectives and technical suggestions in the discussion section to ease readability.
Revised:
To be included in the introduction: “The main objective of this research paper is to explore the use of 137Cs and 210Pb to estimate OC sequestration rates in undisturbed (i.e., not directly impaired by human activities) in freshwater wetlands located on agricultural landscapes. Here, we aim to: (1) categorize 137Cs or 210Pb profiles into high- and low-quality via a decision framework, (2) apply the decision framework to estimate OC sequestration rates, (3) use 1963 and 1954 time-markers to compare the 137Cs and 210Pb based OC sequestration rates to get a better understanding of the sedimentation history, and (4) select the best approach for 137Cs and 210Pb to estimate the OC sequestration rates with highest precision.”
To be included in discussion: “Based on the results of this study, we recommend (1) use high-quality 137Cs and 210Pb profiles to estimate OC sequestration rates, (2) interpret 137Cs profiles from agricultural landscapes carefully from the perspective of redistribution of sediments, (3)use both 137Cs and 210Pb to compare and validate estimates if logistic approves. However, in case where one had to choose between 137Cs and 210Pb we recommend (1) For 137Cs: use 1963 time-markers to estimate OC sequestration rates (compared to 1954) since it is found to be most comparable with 210Pb dating techniques (CFCS model), (2) For 210Pb (CFCS model): OC sequestration rates from present to 1963 can be estimated with highest precision since we corroborated the estimates with 137Cs, however, we can not comment on the precision of 210Pb based OC sequestration rate estimation before 1963 based on the scope of this study.”
Criteria for selecting suitable cores
Different criteria were used for selecting suitable profiles of Cs and Pb (Line 121-124). First, more detailed descriptions would help readers understand the rationales of the employed criteria. Second, as the triplicate samples were analyzed for each site, please clarify if the selection criteria were applied to each single profile or an averaged result from three replicates per site. Third, it would provide more quantitative evaluation of the selection if it were clearly stated which proportion of the three profiles (e.g., at least two or all three) fulfill selection requirements.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this feedback. We have mentioned in the manuscript that we have first selected the suitable sediment cores (complete and datable) out of the total 90 (30 wetlands × 3 replicates = 90) sediment cores collected from the field. The suitability (complete and datable does not mean high-quality) was assessed by zero activity before the onset and the peak of 137Cs activity for 137Cs and was assessed by determining the exponential decline in 210Pb activity with depth until background levels are reached for 210Pb. As indicated in the manuscript, we applied the screening for 79 137Cs and 47 210Pb sediment cores (we did not average). Details on how many replicates were suitably dated and used for statistical analysis can be found in Fig 2 and supplementary figures 2 to 13 of the submitted manuscript. We will clarify further in the revised manuscript by revising the following sentences.
Original: “Selecting suitable cores: Of the 90 sediment cores, 79 were suitable (complete and datable) for 137Cs dating and 47 were suitable for 210Pb dating. Suitability for 137Cs profiles for dating was assessed by zero activity before the onset and the peak of 137Cs activity. The suitability of 210Pb profiles for dating was assessed by determining the exponential decline in 210Pb activity with depth until background levels are reached.”
Revised: “Selecting suitable cores: Of the 90 sediment cores (30 wetlands x 3 replicates = 90), 79 were suitable (complete and datable) for 137Cs dating and 47 were suitable for 210Pb dating. Only some replicates from the same wetland were suitable for interpretation or further screening. Suitability for 137Cs profiles for dating was assessed by zero activity before the onset and the peak of 137Cs activity. The suitability of 210Pb profiles for dating was assessed by determining the exponential decline in 210Pb activity with depth until background levels are reached.”
Original: “Statistical analyses were conducted using sediment cores where both 137Cs and 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates were available.”
Revised: “Statistical analyses were conducted using sediment cores where both 137Cs and 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates were available (number of sediment cores (n) = 44).”
The term organic C
The authors used organic C to refer to the organic matter content measured by LOI (“OC content was calculated from OC concentration in % measured by loss-on-ignition method”). LOI is a measure of organic matter, but cannot represent organic carbon quantitatively. The limitation of LOI as a measure of organic matter is well known, such as the ignition of non-organic particles at high temperatures). In my opinion, the results of LOI measurements should be reported as LOI (%). Equating LOI with OC would be unacceptable for many soil scientists. I would recommend measuring and reporting OC. If this is not possible, LOI (%) or OM (%) should be used with a prior definition.
Authors’ Response:
Thank you for this feedback. We will add the suggested definitions and limitations in the revised manuscript.
Original: “OC stocks for the 1954 and 1963 time-markers were calculated by multiplying the OC content per unit mass of soil (g; OC content was calculated from OC concentration in % measured by loss-on-ignition method, Kolthoff and Sandell, 1952) by the mass of sediment for each section interval and specific depth interval per unit area (g cm-2) down the profile to the respective time-marker.”
Revised: “OC stocks for the 1954 and 1963 time-markers were calculated by multiplying the OC content per unit mass of soil (g). Here, OC content was calculated from OC concentration (%) measured by loss-on-ignition (LOI) method (Kolthoff and Sandell, 1952) by the mass of sediment for each section interval and specific depth interval per unit area (g cm-2) down the profile to the respective time-marker. OC (%) was calculated by multiplying organic matter (%) by LOI with 0.58 assuming 58% of the organic matter is carbon. Despite the wide applicability, simplicity in measurement techniques, and cost-effectiveness, the LOI approach is associated with some limitations such as ignition of non-organic particles at high temperatures or use of conventional conversion factor (Pribyl, 2010; Hoogsteen et al., 2015) which can result in over-estimation of OC content.”
Citations:
Pribyl, D. W.: A critical review of the conventional SOC to SOM conversion factor, Geoderma, 156(3-4), 75-83, doi:10.1016/j.geoderma.2010.02.003, 2010.
Hoogsteen, M. J., Lantinga, E. A., Bakker, E. J., Groot, J. C., and Tittonell, P. A.: Estimating soil organic carbon through loss on ignition: effects of ignition conditions and structural water loss, European Journal of soil science, 66(2), 320-328, doi:10.1111/ejss.12224, 2015.
<Minor comments>
Title: if C accumulation occurs mainly in the wetland soils, the title should end like “freshwater wetland soils”.
Authors’ Response:
Title will be revised as follows.
Original: “Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in freshwater mineral soil wetlands”
Revised: “Technical Note: Comparison of radiometric techniques for estimating recent organic carbon sequestration rates in temperate inland wetland soils”
Line (L) 23: Without citing any relevant papers, this sentence assumes that wetlands function as C sinks, although wetlands can also function as C sources under degrading conditions or when CH4 emissions are taken into consideration. Please refine the text based these considerations and provide at least a few relevant papers.
Authors’ Response:
Sentence will be refined, and citation will be added in the revised manuscript.
Original: “Moreover, these wetlands have the potential to sequester organic carbon (OC), making them candidates to be natural climate solutions by offsetting carbon emissions.”
Revised: “Moreover, these wetlands have the potential to sequester organic carbon (OC) (Bridgham et al., 2006; Nahlik and Fennessey, 2016; Bansal et al., 2023). Accounting for the balance between the sequestration and emission of carbon can help establish wetlands as important candidates for natural climate solutions by offsetting carbon emissions (Hamback et al., 2023).”
Citations:
Bansal, S., Creed, I. F., Tangen, B. A., Bridgham, S. D., Desai, A. R., Krauss, K. W., Neubauer, S. C., Noe, G. B., Rosenberry, D. O., Trettin, C., Wickland, K. P., Allen, S. T., Arias-Ortiz, A., Armitage, A. R., Baldocchi, D., Banerjee, K., Bastviken, D., Berg, P., Bogard, M., Chow, A. T., Conner, W. H., Craft, C., Creamer, C., DelSontro, T., Duberstein, J. A., Eagle, M., Fennessy, M. S., Finkelstein, S. A., Göckede, M., Grunwald, S., Halabisky, M., Herbert, E., Jahangir, M. M. R., Johnson, O. F., Jones, M. C., Kelleway, J. J., Knox, S., Kroeger, K. D., Kuehn, K. A., Lobb, D., Loder A. L., Ma, S., Maher, D. T., McNicol, G., Meier, J., Middleton, B. A., Mills, C., Mistry, P., Mitra, A., Mobiian, C., Nahlik, A. M., Newman, S., O’Connell, J. L., Oikawa, P., Post van der Burg, M., Schutte, C. A., Song, C., Stagg, C. L., Turner, J., Vargas, R., Waldrop, M. P., Wallin, M. B., Wang, Z. A., Ward, E. J., Willard, D. A., Yarwood, S., and Zhu X.: Practical guide to measuring wetland carbon pools and fluxes, Wetlands, 43(8), 105, doi:10.1007/s13157-023-01722-2, 2023.
Bridgham, S. D., Megonigal, J. P., Keller, J. K., Bliss, N. B., and Trettin, C.: The carbon balance of North American wetlands, Wetlands, 26(4), 889-916, doi:10.1672/0277-5212(2006)26[889:TCBONA]2.0.CO;2, 2006.
Hambäck, P. A., Dawson, L., Geranmayeh, P., Jarsjö, J., Kačergytė, I., Peacock, M., Collentine, D., Destouni, G., Futter, M., Hugelius, G., Hedman, S., Jonsson, S., Klatt, B. K., Lindström, A., Nilsson, J. E., Pärt, T., Schneider, L. D., Strand, J. A., Urrutia-Cordero, P., Åhlén, D., Åhlén., I., and Blicharska, M.: Tradeoffs and synergies in wetland multifunctionality: A scaling issue. Science of the Total Environment, 862, 160746, doi:10.1016/j.scitotenv.2022.160746, 2023.
Nahlik, A. M. and Fennessy, M. S.: Carbon storage in US wetlands. Nature Communications, 7(1), 1-9, doi:10.1038/ncomms13835, 2016.
L 56 “210Pb is a naturally occurring radionuclide of 238U”: Do you mean “…radionuclide deriving from 238U?”
Authors’ Response:
Yes. Sentence will be refined for ease in readability.
Original: “Unlike 137Cs, 210Pb is a naturally occurring radionuclide of 238U and deposits atmospherically from the decay of 226Ra (Walling and He, 1999).”
Revised: “Unlike 137Cs, 210Pb is a naturally occurring radionuclide derived from 238U and deposits atmospherically from the decay of 226Ra (Walling and He, 1999).”
L 66: It would be more reader-friendly if you explain “unsupported” and “supported” by adding a few more words.
Authors’ Response:
Following text will be added to explain “unsupported” and “supported”.
Original: “Gamma and alpha spectrometry of 210Pb provides the total 210Pb activity, which incorporates unsupported (or excess) 210Pb (210Pbex) and supported 210Pb.”
Revised: “Gamma and alpha spectrometry of 210Pb provides the total 210Pb activity, which incorporates unsupported (or excess) 210Pb (210Pbex) and supported 210Pb. Supported 210Pb is derived from the natural decay of radium-226 (226Ra) present in the sediment while unsupported 210Pb comes from the decay of atmospheric radon-222 (222Rn), which deposits 210Pb onto the sediment surface from the air. Unsupported 210Pb activity decreases over time due to radioactive decay, unlike supported 210Pb (Appleby and Oldfieldz, 1983).”
Citation:
Appleby, P. G., and Oldfieldz, F.: The assessment of 210 Pb data from sites with varying sediment accumulation rates, Hydrobiologia, 103, 29-35, doi:10.1007/BF00028424, 1983.
L 76: Please remove “according to” and instead put the references in parentheses.
Authors’ Response:
In line 76, “according to” will be removed and references put in parentheses.
Original: “The combined use of 137Cs and 210Pb may improve the accuracy of the dating estimation, according to Drexler et al. (2018) and Creed et al. (2022).”
Revised: “The combined use of 137Cs and 210Pb may improve the accuracy of the dating estimation (Drexler et al., 2018; Creed et al., 2022).”
L 87: Parentheses here appear unnecessary.
Authors’ Response:
Parentheses will be removed.
Original: “Sediment cores were screened (to remove profiles with evidence of vertical mixing), and then the remaining profiles were used to estimate OC sequestration rates using 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating.”
Revised: “Sediment cores were screened to remove profiles with evidence of vertical mixing, and then the remaining profiles were used to estimate OC sequestration rates using 137Cs or 210Pb radioisotope dating.”
L 108-108 “the high-purity germanium detectors, Broad Energy Germanium detectors (BE6530) and high-resolution Small Anode Germanium well detectors (GSW275L) (Mirion Technologies, Inc., Atlanta, GA, USA)”: It is not clear whether BE6530 and GSW275L are high-purity and high-resolution detectors, respectively.
Authors’ Response:
Sentence will be refined to clarify both BE6530 and GSW275L are high-purity detectors.
Original: “The gamma analysis was conducted using the high-purity germanium detectors, Broad Energy Germanium detectors (BE6530) and high-resolution Small Anode Germanium well detectors (GSW275L) (Mirion Technologies, Inc., Atlanta, GA, USA). The alpha analysis was conducted using ORTEC® alpha spectrometer (AMETEK® Advanced Measurement Technology, TN, USA)”
Revised: “The gamma analysis was conducted using the high-purity germanium detectors; e.g., Broad Energy Germanium detectors (BE6530) and Small Anode Germanium well detectors (GSW275L) (Mirion Technologies, Inc., Atlanta, GA, USA). The alpha analysis was conducted using ORTEC® alpha spectrometer (AMETEK® Advanced Measurement Technology, TN, USA)”
L 112: This would be a good place to describe any QA/QC measures that were employed to guarantee the analytical accuracy.
Authors’ Response:
QA/QC measures employed in this study to guarantee the analytical accuracy will be added after line 112 as suggested.
We will add the following text to the revised manuscript.
“Measurement accuracy of gamma detectors is ensured by assessing the counting errors with reference materials within same geometry as the sample (e.g., petri dish). Detection error was < 10% with a counting time of up to 24 h. Furthermore, Landscape Dynamics Laboratory undergoes regular Proficiency Testing through the International Atomic Reference Material Agency (IARMA) and previously through the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to ensure acceptable accuracy and precision of analytical results using gamma spectroscopy.”
L 232-238: Don’t these exceptions demand a refinement of the criteria? For instance, additional criteria can be prescribed considering these exceptions. It would be too arbitrary if we have to accept the failed profiles based on subjective visual inspections.
Authors’ Response:
These exceptions were reflected in the currently set criteria, where the first step is to look at the shape of the 137Cs peak: “clear peaks with 2 or 3 points on both sides of the peak”. In the absence of clear peaks, the cumulative 137Cs inventory value should be checked. We wanted to elaborate on this criterion (and how we followed it) by providing explanation for two cores where, despite a cumulative 137Cs inventory value < 500 Bq m-2 we considered them as high-quality because the 1963 peak was good. For one sediment core, we did take a subjective decision by choosing it to be high-quality rather than low-quality. We acknowledge that a classification of the three categories instead of two would have been better in this case where we can classify the cores into low, medium- or high-quality but with limited number of sediment cores and to promote ease of applying the decision framework, we restricted ourselves to two categories. Based on the response to the other comments below, we will also provide examples of which profile we are referring to throughout the revised manuscript so that the reader can refer to the specific 137Cs profiles in the main manuscript or supplementary figures. An example of the revised text is provided below.
Original: “Two 137Cs profiles were considered high-quality despite a cumulative 137Cs inventory value < 500 Bq m-2 because the 1963 peak was clear, distinct, and elongated with two-to-three points on both sides of the peak.”
Revised: “Two 137Cs profiles were considered high-quality despite a cumulative 137Cs inventory value < 500 Bq m-2 because the 1963 peak was clear, distinct, and elongated with two-to-three points on both sides of the peak (e.g., 137Cs profile of M-OA-I-W4-T2-CW-R2 in Supplementary Fig. 7b).”
L 306: Please include a phrase mentioning OC data like “combined with OC measurements” following “both radioisotopes dating”.
Authors’ Response:
We did not include the phrase “combined with OC measurements” since we did not compare OC measurements or stocks or contents in this study. Here, we focused on comparing the 137Cs and 210Pb based OC sequestration rates where calculations include OC stock measurements. Details on how we calculated the OC sequestration rates/OC stock can be found in the Methods section.
L 256-261: Please combine these sentences into a single combed paragraph. The following 2-3 sentences throughout the Results section also seem untidy, requiring some editorial refinement.
Authors’ Response:
Line 256 – 258 will be deleted in the revised manuscript based on reviewer #1 comment, so the paragraph will start from “For each of the ……” as shown below. We will revise the following 2-3 sentences in Results section to make necessary editorial adjustments in the revised manuscript as suggested.
Original: “The comparability of 137Cs vs. 210Pb derived OC sequestration rates was investigated through both visual inspection of the Q-Q plots and the Cramer-von Mises test which assigned significance of the distance of the points from the 1:1 line assessed with p-value and the AIC. For each of the four datasets (D1-D4), the points on the Q-Q plot were distributed in a straight line, showing a linear relationship between the two estimates being compared (R2 > 0.95, p-value < 0.001) (Fig. 4).”
Revised: “For each of the four datasets (D1-D4), the points on the Q-Q plot were distributed in a straight line, showing a linear relationship between the two estimates being compared (R2 > 0.95, p-value < 0.001) (Fig. 4).”
L 383-390: Given the article type (technical note) and the goal of suggesting good practices, it would be helpful if you provide some recommendations about the highly disturbed cases.
Authors’ Response:
Thanks for the feedback. Throughout the manuscript we have tried to provide recommendations regarding highly disturbed cases. For e.g., in line 383 we mention that if the 137Cs profiles are noisy with a higher inventory value, then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty because the higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material to the center of the wetland, therefore increasing the quantity of 137Cs from the value that would be expected if no new enriched material was introduced via erosion/lateral flow. Therefore, these 137Cs profiles should not be discarded due to its noise. In case of where there are two peaks seen with higher inventory, one can reposition the 137Cs peak to account for enrichment as we did for few cores. We will provide examples of which 137Cs or 210Pb profile we are referring to throughout the revised manuscript so that the reader can refer to the figures/profiles in the main manuscript or supplement to visualize the disturbed cores/profiles. An example of how we will do revisions is provided below.
Original: “If the 137Cs activity of most of the sediment cores from an individual wetland are noisy with a higher inventory value, then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty because the higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material to the center of the wetland, therefore increasing the quantity of 137Cs from the value that would be expected if no new enriched material was introduced via erosion/lateral flow.”
Revised: “If the 137Cs activity of most of the sediment cores from an individual wetland are noisy with a higher inventory value (e.g., 137Cs profile of S-LO-I-W4-T2-CW-R2 in Supplementary Fig. 2a), then the impact by erosional processes can be deduced with higher certainty because the higher observed inventory value could be a result of movement of enriched material to the center of the wetland, therefore increasing the quantity of 137Cs from the value that would be expected if no new enriched material was introduced via erosion/lateral flow.”
L 394: Please cite the relevant figure.
Authors’ Response:
Relevant figure will be cited in the revised manuscript.
Original: “The 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1963 OC sequestration rates is in closer proximity with the 1:1-line, suggesting compatibility between 137Cs- and 210Pb-based estimates. Conversely, the 137Cs -210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1954 OC sequestration rates showed more deviation from the 1:1 line; 137Cs-based OC sequestration rates were more dispersed and were higher than the 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates.”
Revised: “The 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1963 OC sequestration rates is in closer proximity with the 1:1-line, suggesting compatibility between 137Cs- and 210Pb-based estimates (Fig 5c and 5d). Conversely, the 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1954 OC sequestration rates showed more deviation from the 1:1 line; 137Cs-based OC sequestration rates were more dispersed and were higher than the 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates (Fig 5a and 5b).”
L 395-398: This assessment is not fully in line with the results shown in Table 2 (particularly the four mean values of C sequestration rates) and the main conclusion on the compatibility of both methods. Don’t you need to mention at least the results (Table 2) here?
Authors’ Response:
We think that the results shown in Table 2 aligns with the main conclusion of this study i.e. 137Cs and 210Pb based OC sequestration rates since 1963 using high-quality profiles are reasonably comparable or similar (for e.g., compared to using 1954 time-marker). We will mention the table 2 results in the revised text.
Original: “Conversely, the 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1954 OC sequestration rates showed more deviation from the 1:1 line; 137Cs-based OC sequestration rates were more dispersed and were higher than the 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates. Providing better sequestration rate estimates has consequences for estimating OC stocks with an improved degree of accuracy, which may provide policymakers with better tools to make informed carbon management decisions supported with data.”
Revised: “Conversely, the 137Cs-210Pb Q-Q plot of the 1954 OC sequestration rates showed more deviation from the 1:1 line; 137Cs-based OC sequestration rates were more dispersed and were higher than the 210Pb-based OC sequestration rates (Fig 5a and 5b). The mean OC sequestration rates in Table 2 further verify the comparability of OC sequestration rates using 1963 time-marker (mean 137Cs OC sequestration rate is 0.63 Mg ha-1 yr-1 while mean 210Pb OC sequestration rate is 0.68 Mg ha-1 yr-1) and the dispersion using 1954 time-marker (mean 137Cs OC sequestration rate is 1.02 Mg ha-1 yr-1 while mean 210Pb OC sequestration rate is 0.67 Mg ha-1 yr-1). Providing better sequestration rate estimates has consequences for estimating OC stocks with an improved degree of accuracy, which may provide policymakers with better tools to make informed carbon management decisions supported with data.”
Important note: We will update the wetland sediment core id in the revised manuscript and supplement to maintain consistency in future publication. Please refer to the table below for the previous codes and the revised codes.
Previously used wetland sediment core ID in the submitted technical note
Revised wetland sediment core ID in the revised manuscript
AB-2 T3
A-WE-I-W2-T3-CW-R3
SK-A1 T3
S-RO-I-W1-T3-CW-R3
SK-A2 T2
S-RO-I-W2-T2-CW-R2
SK-A3 T1
S-LO-I-W3-T1-CW-R1
SK-A3 T2
S-LO-I-W3-T2-CW-R2
SK-A3 T3
S-LO-I-W3-T3-CW-R3
SK-A4 T2
S-LO-I-W4-T2-CW-R2
SK-A5 T1
S-RO-I-W5-T1-CW-R1
SK-A5 T3
S-RO-I-W5-T3-CW-R3
SK-A6 T1
S-RO-I-W6-T1-CW-R1
SK-A7 T1
S-RU-I-W7-T1-CW-R1
SK-A7 T2
S-RU-I-W7-T2-CW-R2
SK-A7 T3
S-RU-I-W7-T3-CW-R3
SK-B1 T2
S-FO-I-W8-T2-CW-R2
SK-B1 T3
S-FO-I-W8-T3-CW-R3
SK-B2 T2
S-FO-I-W9-T2-CW-R2
SK-B2 T3
S-FO-I-W9-T3-CW-R3
SK-B4 T1
S-FO-I-W11-T1-CW-R1
SK-B4 T2
S-FO-I-W11-T2-CW-R2
SK-B4 T3
S-FO-I-W11-T3-CW-R3
SK-B5 T1
S-FO-I-W12-T1-CW-R1
SK-B5 T3
S-FO-I-W12-T3-CW-R3
SK-B9 T2
S-FO-I-W16-T2-CW-R2
SK-B9 T3
S-FO-I-W16-T3-CW-R3
MB-1 T1
M-OA-I-W1-T1-CW-R1
MB-1 T2
M-OA-I-W1-T2-CW-R2
MB-1 T3
M-OA-I-W1-T3-CW-R3
MB-2 T1
M-OA-I-W2-T1-CW-R1
MB-3 T2
M-OA-I-W3-T2-CW-R2
MB-4 T1
M-OA-I-W4-T1-CW-R1
MB-4 T2
M-OA-I-W4-T2-CW-R2
MB-4 T3
M-OA-I-W4-T3-CW-R3
MB-5 T1
M-OA-I-W5-T1-CW-R1
MB-5 T3
M-OA-I-W5-T3-CW-R3
ON-A1 T2
O-BR-I-W1-T2-CW-R2
ON-A1 T3
O-BR-I-W1-T3-CW-R3
ON-A2 T1
O-BR-I-W2-T2-CW-R2
ON-A2 T2
O-BR-I-W2-T3-CW-R3
ON-A2 T3
O-BR-I-W2-T4-CW-R4
ON-B1 T1
O-AL-I-W4-T1-CW-R1
ON-B1 T2
O-AL-I-W4-T2-CW-R2
ON-B1 T3
O-AL-I-W4-T3-CW-R3
ON-B2 T3
O-AL-I-W5-T3-CW-R3
ON-B3 T1
O-AL-I-W6-T1-CW-R1
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