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Secondary Ice Production – No Evidence of Efficient Rime-Splintering Mechanism
Abstract. Mixed-phase clouds are essential for Earth’s weather and climate system. Ice multiplication via secondary ice production (SIP) is thought to be responsible for the observed strong increase of ice particle number concentration in mixed-phase clouds. In this study, we focus on the rime-splintering also known as the Hallett-Mossop (HM) process, which still lacks physical and quantitative understanding. We report on an experimental study of rime-splintering conducted in a newly developed setup under conditions representing convective mixed-phase clouds in the temperature range of −4 °C to −10 °C. The riming process was observed with high-speed video microscopy and infrared thermography, while potential secondary ice particles (SI) in the super-micron size range were detected by a custom-build ice counter. Contrary to earlier HM experiments, where up to several hundreds of SI particles per mg rime were found at −5 °C, we found no evidence of productive SIP, which fundamentally questions the importance of rime-splintering. Further, we could exclude two potential mechanisms suggested as explanation for rime-splintering: freezing of droplets upon glancing contact with the rimer and fragmentation of spherically freezing droplets on the rimer surface. The break-off of sublimating fragile rime spires was observed to produce very few SI particles, insufficient to explain the large numbers of ice particles reported in earlier studies. In the transition regime between wet and dry growth, in analogy to phenomena of deformation of drizzle droplets upon freezing, we also observed formation of spikes on the rimer surface, which might be a source of SIP.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2891', Alexei Korolev, 30 Dec 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-2891/egusphere-2023-2891-RC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Susan Hartmann, 28 Feb 2024
We thank Dr. Korolev sincerely for your review and the appreciation of our study. We also thank you for highlighting the importance of laboratory investigations on secondary ice formation which includes rime-splintering or also known as Hallett-Mossop process investigated in this study. Further, we plan to address your comprehensible and helpful suggestions for future rime-splintering experiments, i.e., the investigation of influence of graupel rotation and humidity on the potential rime-splintering process.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2891-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Susan Hartmann, 28 Feb 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2891', Paul Connolly, 08 Jan 2024
Please see my attached review. Although I think the experimental methods are excellent and the paper is generally well-written I think there needs to be some changes to the manuscript to take into account the findings of HH and Cooper (1987) and perhaps a toning down of the statement that there is no-evidence of an efficient RS mechanism. In fact the results are consistent with HH and Cooper. Please see the attached PDF for details.
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Susan Hartmann, 28 Feb 2024
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2891', Alexei Korolev, 30 Dec 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-2891/egusphere-2023-2891-RC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Susan Hartmann, 28 Feb 2024
We thank Dr. Korolev sincerely for your review and the appreciation of our study. We also thank you for highlighting the importance of laboratory investigations on secondary ice formation which includes rime-splintering or also known as Hallett-Mossop process investigated in this study. Further, we plan to address your comprehensible and helpful suggestions for future rime-splintering experiments, i.e., the investigation of influence of graupel rotation and humidity on the potential rime-splintering process.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2891-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Susan Hartmann, 28 Feb 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2891', Paul Connolly, 08 Jan 2024
Please see my attached review. Although I think the experimental methods are excellent and the paper is generally well-written I think there needs to be some changes to the manuscript to take into account the findings of HH and Cooper (1987) and perhaps a toning down of the statement that there is no-evidence of an efficient RS mechanism. In fact the results are consistent with HH and Cooper. Please see the attached PDF for details.
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Susan Hartmann, 28 Feb 2024
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