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Ocean alkalinity enhancement approaches and the predictability of runaway precipitation processes – Results of an experimental study to determine critical alkalinity ranges for safe and sustainable application scenarios
Abstract. To ensure the safe and efficient application of Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement (OAE), it is crucial to investigate its impacts on the carbonate system. While various modeling studies showed promising results in the past, there has been a lack of empirical data to support the applicability of this technology in natural environments. Recent studies have described the effect of runaway precipitation in the context of OAE, showing that calcium carbonate formation was triggered if certain Ωaragonite saturation threshold levels were exceeded. This precipitation can adversely affect the carbon storage capacity and may in some cases result in CO2 emissions. Experiments at the Espeland Marine Biological Station (Bergen, Norway) were conducted to systematically study the chemical consequences of OAE deployment. The experiments lasted for 20–25 days to monitor the temporal development of carbonate chemistry parameters after alkalinity addition and the eventually triggered carbonate precipitation process. Identified uniform patterns before and during the triggered runaway process can be described by empirical functional relationships. For the CO2-equilibrated approaches, total alkalinity levels (TA) of up to 6500 µeq kgsw-1 remained stable without loss of total alkalinity (TA) for up to 20 days. Higher implemented TA levels, up to 11200 µeq kgsw-1, triggered runaway carbonate formation. Ones triggered, the loss of alkalinity continued until Ωaragonite values leveled out at 5.8–6.0, resulting still in a net gain of 3600–4850 µeq kgsw-1 in TA. The CO2-non-equilibrated approaches, however, remained only stable for TA additions of up to 1000 µeq kgsw-1. The systematic behavior of treatments exceeding this level allows to predict the duration of transient stability and the quantity of TA loss after this period. Once triggered, the TA-loss continued in the CO2-non-equilibrated approaches until Ωaragonite values of 2.5–5.0 were reached, in this case resulting in a net loss of TA. To prevent a net loss of TA, treated water must be diluted below the time-dependent critical levels of TA and Ωaragonite within the identified transient stability duration. Identified stability and loss patterns of added TA depend on local environmental conditions impacting the carbonate system, like salinity, temperature, biological activity, and particle abundance. Implementation of such identified stability and loss patterns into ocean biogeochemical models, capable of resolving mixing patterns of treated and untreated water parcels, would allow to predict, from the geochemical perspective, safe local application levels of TA, as well as the fate of added alkalinity, and therefore a more realistic carbon storage potential as if neglecting observed carbonate system response to OAE.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2611', Andrew Dickson, 05 Mar 2024
I apologize for the time it took me to get to writing this review. I found this to be an interesting manuscript introducing what is likely to become a real problem if Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement (OAE) is to become well established as an mCDR approach.
The authors carried out a simple series of experiments to assess what happens after increasing seawater alkalinity. They studied the addition of two alternate solutions: one a simple strong alkali, the other a similar solution that had been equilibrated with CO2 at a partial pressure of ~420 µatm. They showed that large additions of alkalinity to a seawater could trigger the precipitation of calcium and magnesium carbonates, as well as magnesium hydroxide, thus reducing the alkalinity in the final solution. If however, the alkaline solution had been pre-equiilibrated with CO2, then higher alkalinity levels could be achieved without triggering the precipitation process. The experiments suggest that the kinetic process that is involved here is somewhat reproducible in its behavior (note: the experiments did not appear to be scrupulously replicated, rather they were repeated with differing initial solution compositions over a range of total alkalinity (and for the addition of pre-equiliibrated solution, also an associated range of total dissolved inorganic carbon).
That said, I did find the author's figures and text awkward to read and understand. The difficulty is that they are describing a time-dependent process, where an initial solution composition (formed as a mixture between seawater and a synthetic solution (either NaOH, or an Na2CO3/NaHCO3 mixture with a nomiinal p(CO2) of 420 µatm) changes as a result of precipitating inorganic solids: CaCO2, MgCO3, Mg(OH)2 . The changes are complex due to the equilibrium chemistry of CO2 in such systems, with not only the total alkalinity and total dissolved inorganic carbon changing, but also other compositional properties such as p(CO2), pH, and Ωaragonite.
The time-dependent process the authors describe is illustrated as a simple conceptual plot in Fig. 9, and also illustrated as alkalinity loss in Figs. 5 & 6. Essentially the earlier figures (2,3,4) show the experimental measurements over the course of 20 or 25 days (depending on the experiments). It is these three figures that are hardest to follow (as in them the time dependence is not so clear, and the scales chosen seem somewhat arbitrary).
Nevertheless, I feel the authors are adequately clear in what they did, and in what they found and I believe the paper is a useful first step in this potentially important area.
That said, I have a significant number of small comments (some addressing typos) that I feel the authors should consider changing.
The unit "µeq kgsw–1 " for alkalinity seems both old-fashioned, and (sliightly) problematic. First, the use of equivalents has been deprecated in physical chemistry for many decades with moles being a preferred alternative. Second, as the experimental solutions are a mixture of natural seawater and another inorganic solution, referring to the amount content of a component as "per kilogram of seawater" seems misleading; strictly it is per kilogram of solution (viz amount content)
(line 37) "Once" not "Ones"
(lines 46-48) This does not read right, perhaps words are missiing?
(lines 58-59) I do not feel that the oceanic residence time for inorganic carbon is a meaningful concept when discussing OAE. If a parcel of seawater is taking up CO2 it is, by definition, at the surface not well-mixed around the ocean.
(line 68) "ground" not "grinded"
(Fig. 1 legend). pCO2 is a partial pressure, and thus should be expressed in pressure units (e.g. 420 µatm) not as a mole fraction (420 ppm)
(lines 122-123) What magnitude are "Minor shifts"?
(lines 125-131) What are the measurement uncertainties of these techniques?
(line 195) missing word?
(line 227) The maximum value for mol% C is high enough to suggest some bicarbonate may also be present in these solids (or there is a typo?)
(line 317) What are "varying framework conditions"?
(line 326) Is "excluded" the word intended here?
(line 420) Although these experiments had low suspended sediment, I'd hesitate to generalize in this way.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-RC1 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Niels Suitner, 27 May 2024
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2611', Andrew Dickson, 05 Mar 2024 (https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-RC1)
I apologize for the time it took me to get to writing this review. I found this to be an interesting manuscript introducing what is likely to become a real problem if Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement (OAE) is to become well established as an mCDR approach.
Thanks a lot for your dedication. We appreciate the opportunity to refine our work based on your feedback. In the following sections, we have addressed each of your comments comprehensively, aiming to clarify and enhance the quality of our work as per your suggestions.
The authors carried out a simple series of experiments to assess what happens after increasing seawater alkalinity. They studied the addition of two alternate solutions: one a simple strong alkali, the other a similar solution that had been equilibrated with CO2 at a partial pressure of ~420 µatm. They showed that large additions of alkalinity to a seawater could trigger the precipitation of calcium and magnesium carbonates, as well as magnesium hydroxide, thus reducing the alkalinity in the final solution. If however, the alkaline solution had been pre-equiilibrated with CO2, then higher alkalinity levels could be achieved without triggering the precipitation process. The experiments suggest that the kinetic process that is involved here is somewhat reproducible in its behavior (note: the experiments did not appear to be scrupulously replicated, rather they were repeated with differing initial solution compositions over a range of total alkalinity (and for the addition of pre-equiliibrated solution, also an associated range of total dissolved inorganic carbon).
That said, I did find the author's figures and text awkward to read and understand. The difficulty is that they are describing a time-dependent process, where an initial solution composition (formed as a mixture between seawater and a synthetic solution (either NaOH, or an Na2CO3/NaHCO3 mixture with a nomiinal p(CO2) of 420 µatm) changes as a result of precipitating inorganic solids: CaCO2, MgCO3, Mg(OH)2 . The changes are complex due to the equilibrium chemistry of CO2 in such systems, with not only the total alkalinity and total dissolved inorganic carbon changing, but also other compositional properties such as p(CO2), pH, and Ωaragonite.
The time-dependent process the authors describe is illustrated as a simple conceptual plot in Fig. 9, and also illustrated as alkalinity loss in Figs. 5 & 6. Essentially the earlier figures (2,3,4) show the experimental measurements over the course of 20 or 25 days (depending on the experiments). It is these three figures that are hardest to follow (as in them the time dependence is not so clear, and the scales chosen seem somewhat arbitrary).
Thank you very much, the authors agree that Figures 2, 3 and 4 could be quite complex to read. From the standpoint of the authors Figures 2 and 3 provide a relatively space-efficient option to present the basic parameters. Time-dependent plots like Fig. 6 would double to triple the used space. Also, by omitting the time-dependencies, patterns emerge that might otherwise be difficult to distinguish. For example, the comparison between target and actual reached TA in figs. 2 and 3 demonstrates the consistency in adjusting the alkalinity to a specific level, as well as the divergence when immediate Mg(OH)2 precipitation prevents further alkalinity increase within the examined ranges. The same applies to the uniform stabilization of TA, Ωaragonite and pH, which occurred after the precipitation process significantly slowed down. These final configurations adhere to the rules of the underlying carbonate system, provided that the runaway processes are halted at experimentally specific, constant Ωaragonite values.
Fig. 4 visualizes the dependency of the specified parameters on the carbonate formation (2:1 ΔTA: ΔDIC decline ratio). As one of the main objectives of this publication is to present repeating general patterns, comprehensibly following relatively simple effects of the carbonate/hydroxide formation, the temporal evolution was not the main focus of these diagrams.
The authors would like to provide possible measures to improve their readability:
1) Additional time-dependent plots will be provided in the supplements
2) Captions and the related text will be adjusted to improve clarity
3) Design adjustments in Figs. 3 and 4, particularly for the non-CO2-equilibrated abiotic approach (Fig 3 (d-f) and Fig 4(e)), such as reducing the number of highlighted plots or data points while fading out others. The comprehensive displayed diagrams would then be provided in the supplementary materials.
Nevertheless, I feel the authors are adequately clear in what they did, and in what they found and I believe the paper is a useful first step in this potentially important area.
That said, I have a significant number of small comments (some addressing typos) that I feel the authors should consider changing.
The unit "µeq kgsw–1 " for alkalinity seems both old-fashioned, and (sliightly) problematic. First, the use of equivalents has been deprecated in physical chemistry for many decades with moles being a preferred alternative.
Following your suggestion, “µeq” will be replaced by “µmol” throughout the text.
Second, as the experimental solutions are a mixture of natural seawater and another inorganic solution, referring to the amount content of a component as "per kilogram of seawater" seems misleading; strictly it is per kilogram of solution (viz amount content)
In fact, the experimental solution contained a certain degree of stock solution. For a total amount of 64 treatments, 6 (abiotic CO2-equilibrated, ΔTA 5200-9200) surpassed 1 % of inorganic solution to seawater ratio. While “per kilogram of solution“ would be a technically correct description, the authors would like to suggest to use “per kilogram [µmol kg-1] to minimize the potential for confusion by deviating from the common units used for carbonate chemistry parameters.
(line 37) "Once" not "Ones"
This will be corrected
(lines 46-48) This does not read right, perhaps words are missiing?
“Implementation of such identified stability and loss patterns into ocean biogeochemical models, capable of resolving mixing patterns of treated and untreated water parcels, would allow to predict, from the geochemical perspective, safe local application levels of TA, as well as the fate of added alkalinity, and therefore a more realistic carbon storage potential as if neglecting observed carbonate system response to OAE.” (L45-48)
Section was rewritten to:
“Incorporating such stability and loss patterns into ocean biogeochemical models, which are capable of resolving dilution processes of treated and untreated water parcels, would, from a geochemical perspective, facilitate the prediction of safe local application levels of OAE. This approach would also allow for an accurate determination of the fate of added alkalinity and a more realistic carbon storage potential estimation compared to the assessments that neglect carbonate system responses to OAE.”
(lines 58-59) I do not feel that the oceanic residence time for inorganic carbon is a meaningful concept when discussing OAE. If a parcel of seawater is taking up CO2 it is, by definition, at the surface not well-mixed around the ocean.
Thank you very much for the comment. The authors agree and understand that the sentence was misleading. This will be updated to: “Naturally, inorganic carbon is stored in the ocean over periods of time ranging from 10,000 to 100,000 years (Berner et al., 1983; Mackenzie & Garrels, 1966). This long-term carbon storage potential makes OAE a preferred option over other suggested marine CDR methods.”
(line 68) "ground" not "grinded"
This will be adjusted
(Fig. 1 legend). pCO2 is a partial pressure, and thus should be expressed in pressure units (e.g. 420 µatm) not as a mole fraction (420 ppm)
ppm will be replaced by µatm (Captions Fig. 1 and L106)
(lines 122-123) What magnitude are "Minor shifts"?
In the following table we provide the shifts in the control treatments (ΔTA0), at the start and end (after 25 days) of each experiment:
Seawater
conditionsCO2 state to atmosphere
TA [µmol kg-1]
DIC [µmol kg-1]
pH
pCO2 [µatm]
Ω(ar)
Runtime [days]
Temperature range [°C]
abiotic
Equilibrated
-3.96
22.10
-0.050
30.44
-0.25
20
12-16
abiotic
Non-equilibrated
-9.24
9.11
-0.080
59.32
-0.14
20
11-13
biotic
Equilibrated
-39.97
12.03
-0.120
77.08
-0.50
25
12-15
biotic
Non-equilibrated
-34.39
-62.20
0.024
-21.32
0.27
25
10-11
The table will be added to the supplementary materials and a corresponding reference given in L122.
(lines 125-131) What are the measurement uncertainties of these techniques?
The uncertainties were set to: TA ±5 µmol kg-1; pH ±0.02, based on frequent measurements of standards. The uncertainty for temperature, of ±0.1°C, was taken from the probe’s certified specifications. For salinity the uncertainty of ±0.1 was extracted from the calibration standard instructions. These numbers were also used for error propagations in CO2sys based on Orr et al. (2018). This information will be added within section 2.2, “Sampling and measurements”
(line 195) missing word?
A comma will be added in L194 and a “such” in L195
Will be adjusted to: “[…], indicating the formation of non-carbonate-bearing secondary phases such as Mg(OH)2 (also see section 4.3).”
(line 227) The maximum value for mol% C is high enough to suggest some bicarbonate may also be present in these solids (or there is a typo?)
Given numbers represent the ranges of nine EDX measurements, which might have caused some confusion, as we didn’t exclude the outliers. Ranges will be replaced by the median values: Ca: 8.39 mol%, Mg: 4.07 mol%, Na: 0.65 mol%, C: 20.41 mol%, O: 64.8 mol%, and Cl: 0.47 mol% (Fig. R1). FTIR analysis of the precipitates, as reported in Paul et al. (2024), show an aragonite dominated material. So far, the authors are not aware that bicarbonate phases could be detected to a considerable amount as a precipitated phase during a runaway process as a consequence of OAE.
Fig. R1: Box plot elemental composition of EDX measurements of precipitates, in mol%, n=9
Reference:
Paul, A. J., Haunost, M., Goldenberg, S. U., Hartmann, J., Sánchez, N., Schneider, J., Suitner, N., and Riebesell, U.: Ocean alkalinity enhancement in an open ocean ecosystem: Biogeochemical responses and carbon storage durability, EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-417, 2024.
(line 317) What are "varying framework conditions"?
Factors like: Temperature, salinity, particle load, available reactive surface area, agitation method, CO2-equilibration state, solid or liquid TA addition, type and size of reaction vessel, etc.
For clarification a selection will be given in the text.
(line 326) Is "excluded" the word intended here?
Will be adjusted to: […] cannot be ruled out that […]
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-AC2
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2611', Anonymous Referee #2, 13 Apr 2024
Suitner et al. evaluated the tendency of carbonate precipitation associated with ocean alkalinity enhancement. This is a widely interested topic and the paper adds some interesting new experimental results to this thread of research. I have some suggestions for the authors to hopefully help improve the manuscript.
First, the authors might want to be more specific and careful in some expressions, for example, in the abstract, Line 27, what does “promising results in the past” exactly mean? You may want to specify to be more “scientific”. Also, in the abstract, concepts like “runaway precipitation” (Line 28-29) and “CO2-equilibrated approaches” (Line 35) are used without definitions, which might be confusing to readers that are not familiar with the field.
There is a typo in Line 37, “ones” should be “once”.
Second, the figures are a little hard to read – y axis are not uniform between “biotic” and “abiotic” conditions (left and right panels in Figure 2 and 3), making it hard to compare the two scenarios. Also, there seems to be way less alkalinity added in the biotic experiments than the abiotic? Why is this? The two terms – “biotic vs. abiotic” are basically “unfiltered vs. filtered”. Since the manuscript is basically about thermodynamically-driven inorganic carbonate precipitation, and the two conditions (biotic and abiotic) do not show significant differences (is this true? It is hard to tell with the different TA addition ranges and y-axis), the authors could simply use “unfiltered and filtered seawater” for simplicity.
Figure 5 and 6 only have 2 scenarios – abiotic CO2-equilibrated and biotic non-CO2 equilibrated. Why are the other 2 not shown? Biotic CO2-equilibrated and abiotic non-CO2 equilibrated.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-RC2 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Niels Suitner, 27 May 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2611', Anonymous Referee #2, 13 Apr 2024 (https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-RC2)
Suitner et al. evaluated the tendency of carbonate precipitation associated with ocean alkalinity enhancement. This is a widely interested topic and the paper adds some interesting new experimental results to this thread of research. I have some suggestions for the authors to hopefully help improve the manuscript.
Thank you very much for your comments. Replies and clarifications to questions and comments are given in detail below.
First, the authors might want to be more specific and careful in some expressions, for example, in the abstract, Line 27, what does “promising results in the past” exactly mean? You may want to specify to be more “scientific”.
“While various modeling studies showed promising results in the past, […]” will be adjusted to:
“While modeling studies reported a sequestration potential of 3-30 Gt CO2 per year (Oschlies et al., 2023), […]” (L27)
Reference:
Oschlies, A., Bach, L. T., Rickaby, R. E. M., Satterfield, T., Webb, R., and Gattuso, J.-P.: Climate targets, carbon dioxide removal, and the potential role of ocean alkalinity enhancement, in: Guide to Best Practices in Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement Research, edited by: Oschlies, A., Stevenson, A., Bach, L. T., Fennel, K., Rickaby, R. E. M., Satterfield, T., Webb, R., and Gattuso, J.-P., Copernicus Publications, State Planet, 2-oae2023, 1, https://doi.org/10.5194/sp-2-oae2023-1-2023, 2023.
Also, in the abstract, concepts like “runaway precipitation” (Line 28-29) and “CO2-equilibrated approaches” (Line 35) are used without definitions, which might be confusing to readers that are not familiar with the field.
“Recent studies have described the effect of runaway precipitation in the context of OAE, showing that calcium carbonate formation was triggered if Ωaragonite saturation threshold levels were exceeded.” (L28-30) will be adjusted to:
“Recent studies have described the effect of runaway carbonate precipitation in the context of OAE, showing that calcium carbonate formation was triggered if certain Ωaragonite saturation thresholds were exceeded. This effect could potentially lead to a net loss of the initially added alkalinity, counteracting the whole concept of OAE.”
“For the CO2-equilibrated approaches, […]” (L35) will be changed to:
“For approaches equilibrated to the CO2 concentrations of the atmosphere, […]”
Also, the authors would like to suggest changing “The CO2-non-equilibrated approaches, […]” (L38) to: “The non-CO2-equilibrated approaches, […]”
There is a typo in Line 37, “ones” should be “once”.
Typo will be corrected
Second, the figures are a little hard to read – y axis are not uniform between “biotic” and “abiotic” conditions (left and right panels in Figure 2 and 3), making it hard to compare the two scenarios.
y-axes of Fig. 2 will be harmonized, the intention behind the non-conformance in axis limits in Fig. 2 was to allow for a comparison with the diagrams in Fig. 3.
Also, there seems to be way less alkalinity added in the biotic experiments than the abiotic? Why is this?
The lower amount of added alkalinity within the “biotic” and “abiotic” approaches originates from differing main objectives in the experimental design. The biotic approaches aimed to understand the response of the phytoplankton community. The abiotic experiments were designed to explore stability ranges and precipitation effects, making it essential to expand the examined TA range to much higher levels in the CO2-equilibrated approaches. Within the “abiotic” non-CO2-equilibrated treatments the TA range was increased to confirm the uniform “buffering” effect of Mg(OH)2 formation above ΔTA2400.
The two terms – “biotic vs. abiotic” are basically “unfiltered vs. filtered”. Since the manuscript is basically about thermodynamically-driven inorganic carbonate precipitation, and the two conditions (biotic and abiotic) do not show significant differences (is this true? It is hard to tell with the different TA addition ranges and y-axis), the authors could simply use “unfiltered and filtered seawater” for simplicity.
Indeed, no significant differences regarding the precipitation behavior could be observed between the “biotic” and “abiotic” approaches (also see L423). Existing deviations most likely originate mainly from temperature differences between the separate experiments.
The wording “biotic” and “abiotic” were used to simplify the comparison with Hartmann et al. (2023) introducing these terms, and to align with the terminology in the upcoming publication on the biological datasets. Both approaches were initially filtered through a 50 µm filter to remove larger biological organisms. The “abiotic” approach was designed to exclude potential influences of biological activity or other factors like natural occurring sediments, achieved by filtering for a second time through a 0.2 µm filter. Therefore, the authors would like to avoid using terms like “unfiltered”, as this might be misleading. To enhance comprehensibility, more detailed explanations will be provided in the method section (L107-108).
Figure 5 and 6 only have 2 scenarios – abiotic CO2-equilibrated and biotic non-CO2 equilibrated. Why are the other 2 not shown? Biotic CO2-equilibrated and abiotic non-CO2 equilibrated.
Related diagrams for the other two scenarios are given in the supplements. Taking into consideration the amount of already shown diagrams, the authors could not see a major benefit in showing these in the main body of the text as well.
Others:
Referring to a community comment sent directly to the authors via email, we would also suggest shifting the highlighted ranges by 50 µmol kg-1 towards higher DIC levels to cover a more realistic range of natural seawater.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-AC1
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2611', Andrew Dickson, 05 Mar 2024
I apologize for the time it took me to get to writing this review. I found this to be an interesting manuscript introducing what is likely to become a real problem if Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement (OAE) is to become well established as an mCDR approach.
The authors carried out a simple series of experiments to assess what happens after increasing seawater alkalinity. They studied the addition of two alternate solutions: one a simple strong alkali, the other a similar solution that had been equilibrated with CO2 at a partial pressure of ~420 µatm. They showed that large additions of alkalinity to a seawater could trigger the precipitation of calcium and magnesium carbonates, as well as magnesium hydroxide, thus reducing the alkalinity in the final solution. If however, the alkaline solution had been pre-equiilibrated with CO2, then higher alkalinity levels could be achieved without triggering the precipitation process. The experiments suggest that the kinetic process that is involved here is somewhat reproducible in its behavior (note: the experiments did not appear to be scrupulously replicated, rather they were repeated with differing initial solution compositions over a range of total alkalinity (and for the addition of pre-equiliibrated solution, also an associated range of total dissolved inorganic carbon).
That said, I did find the author's figures and text awkward to read and understand. The difficulty is that they are describing a time-dependent process, where an initial solution composition (formed as a mixture between seawater and a synthetic solution (either NaOH, or an Na2CO3/NaHCO3 mixture with a nomiinal p(CO2) of 420 µatm) changes as a result of precipitating inorganic solids: CaCO2, MgCO3, Mg(OH)2 . The changes are complex due to the equilibrium chemistry of CO2 in such systems, with not only the total alkalinity and total dissolved inorganic carbon changing, but also other compositional properties such as p(CO2), pH, and Ωaragonite.
The time-dependent process the authors describe is illustrated as a simple conceptual plot in Fig. 9, and also illustrated as alkalinity loss in Figs. 5 & 6. Essentially the earlier figures (2,3,4) show the experimental measurements over the course of 20 or 25 days (depending on the experiments). It is these three figures that are hardest to follow (as in them the time dependence is not so clear, and the scales chosen seem somewhat arbitrary).
Nevertheless, I feel the authors are adequately clear in what they did, and in what they found and I believe the paper is a useful first step in this potentially important area.
That said, I have a significant number of small comments (some addressing typos) that I feel the authors should consider changing.
The unit "µeq kgsw–1 " for alkalinity seems both old-fashioned, and (sliightly) problematic. First, the use of equivalents has been deprecated in physical chemistry for many decades with moles being a preferred alternative. Second, as the experimental solutions are a mixture of natural seawater and another inorganic solution, referring to the amount content of a component as "per kilogram of seawater" seems misleading; strictly it is per kilogram of solution (viz amount content)
(line 37) "Once" not "Ones"
(lines 46-48) This does not read right, perhaps words are missiing?
(lines 58-59) I do not feel that the oceanic residence time for inorganic carbon is a meaningful concept when discussing OAE. If a parcel of seawater is taking up CO2 it is, by definition, at the surface not well-mixed around the ocean.
(line 68) "ground" not "grinded"
(Fig. 1 legend). pCO2 is a partial pressure, and thus should be expressed in pressure units (e.g. 420 µatm) not as a mole fraction (420 ppm)
(lines 122-123) What magnitude are "Minor shifts"?
(lines 125-131) What are the measurement uncertainties of these techniques?
(line 195) missing word?
(line 227) The maximum value for mol% C is high enough to suggest some bicarbonate may also be present in these solids (or there is a typo?)
(line 317) What are "varying framework conditions"?
(line 326) Is "excluded" the word intended here?
(line 420) Although these experiments had low suspended sediment, I'd hesitate to generalize in this way.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-RC1 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Niels Suitner, 27 May 2024
Reply to comments on EGUSPHERE-2023-2611
RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2611', Andrew Dickson, 05 Mar 2024 (https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-RC1)
I apologize for the time it took me to get to writing this review. I found this to be an interesting manuscript introducing what is likely to become a real problem if Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement (OAE) is to become well established as an mCDR approach.
Thanks a lot for your dedication. We appreciate the opportunity to refine our work based on your feedback. In the following sections, we have addressed each of your comments comprehensively, aiming to clarify and enhance the quality of our work as per your suggestions.
The authors carried out a simple series of experiments to assess what happens after increasing seawater alkalinity. They studied the addition of two alternate solutions: one a simple strong alkali, the other a similar solution that had been equilibrated with CO2 at a partial pressure of ~420 µatm. They showed that large additions of alkalinity to a seawater could trigger the precipitation of calcium and magnesium carbonates, as well as magnesium hydroxide, thus reducing the alkalinity in the final solution. If however, the alkaline solution had been pre-equiilibrated with CO2, then higher alkalinity levels could be achieved without triggering the precipitation process. The experiments suggest that the kinetic process that is involved here is somewhat reproducible in its behavior (note: the experiments did not appear to be scrupulously replicated, rather they were repeated with differing initial solution compositions over a range of total alkalinity (and for the addition of pre-equiliibrated solution, also an associated range of total dissolved inorganic carbon).
That said, I did find the author's figures and text awkward to read and understand. The difficulty is that they are describing a time-dependent process, where an initial solution composition (formed as a mixture between seawater and a synthetic solution (either NaOH, or an Na2CO3/NaHCO3 mixture with a nomiinal p(CO2) of 420 µatm) changes as a result of precipitating inorganic solids: CaCO2, MgCO3, Mg(OH)2 . The changes are complex due to the equilibrium chemistry of CO2 in such systems, with not only the total alkalinity and total dissolved inorganic carbon changing, but also other compositional properties such as p(CO2), pH, and Ωaragonite.
The time-dependent process the authors describe is illustrated as a simple conceptual plot in Fig. 9, and also illustrated as alkalinity loss in Figs. 5 & 6. Essentially the earlier figures (2,3,4) show the experimental measurements over the course of 20 or 25 days (depending on the experiments). It is these three figures that are hardest to follow (as in them the time dependence is not so clear, and the scales chosen seem somewhat arbitrary).
Thank you very much, the authors agree that Figures 2, 3 and 4 could be quite complex to read. From the standpoint of the authors Figures 2 and 3 provide a relatively space-efficient option to present the basic parameters. Time-dependent plots like Fig. 6 would double to triple the used space. Also, by omitting the time-dependencies, patterns emerge that might otherwise be difficult to distinguish. For example, the comparison between target and actual reached TA in figs. 2 and 3 demonstrates the consistency in adjusting the alkalinity to a specific level, as well as the divergence when immediate Mg(OH)2 precipitation prevents further alkalinity increase within the examined ranges. The same applies to the uniform stabilization of TA, Ωaragonite and pH, which occurred after the precipitation process significantly slowed down. These final configurations adhere to the rules of the underlying carbonate system, provided that the runaway processes are halted at experimentally specific, constant Ωaragonite values.
Fig. 4 visualizes the dependency of the specified parameters on the carbonate formation (2:1 ΔTA: ΔDIC decline ratio). As one of the main objectives of this publication is to present repeating general patterns, comprehensibly following relatively simple effects of the carbonate/hydroxide formation, the temporal evolution was not the main focus of these diagrams.
The authors would like to provide possible measures to improve their readability:
1) Additional time-dependent plots will be provided in the supplements
2) Captions and the related text will be adjusted to improve clarity
3) Design adjustments in Figs. 3 and 4, particularly for the non-CO2-equilibrated abiotic approach (Fig 3 (d-f) and Fig 4(e)), such as reducing the number of highlighted plots or data points while fading out others. The comprehensive displayed diagrams would then be provided in the supplementary materials.
Nevertheless, I feel the authors are adequately clear in what they did, and in what they found and I believe the paper is a useful first step in this potentially important area.
That said, I have a significant number of small comments (some addressing typos) that I feel the authors should consider changing.
The unit "µeq kgsw–1 " for alkalinity seems both old-fashioned, and (sliightly) problematic. First, the use of equivalents has been deprecated in physical chemistry for many decades with moles being a preferred alternative.
Following your suggestion, “µeq” will be replaced by “µmol” throughout the text.
Second, as the experimental solutions are a mixture of natural seawater and another inorganic solution, referring to the amount content of a component as "per kilogram of seawater" seems misleading; strictly it is per kilogram of solution (viz amount content)
In fact, the experimental solution contained a certain degree of stock solution. For a total amount of 64 treatments, 6 (abiotic CO2-equilibrated, ΔTA 5200-9200) surpassed 1 % of inorganic solution to seawater ratio. While “per kilogram of solution“ would be a technically correct description, the authors would like to suggest to use “per kilogram [µmol kg-1] to minimize the potential for confusion by deviating from the common units used for carbonate chemistry parameters.
(line 37) "Once" not "Ones"
This will be corrected
(lines 46-48) This does not read right, perhaps words are missiing?
“Implementation of such identified stability and loss patterns into ocean biogeochemical models, capable of resolving mixing patterns of treated and untreated water parcels, would allow to predict, from the geochemical perspective, safe local application levels of TA, as well as the fate of added alkalinity, and therefore a more realistic carbon storage potential as if neglecting observed carbonate system response to OAE.” (L45-48)
Section was rewritten to:
“Incorporating such stability and loss patterns into ocean biogeochemical models, which are capable of resolving dilution processes of treated and untreated water parcels, would, from a geochemical perspective, facilitate the prediction of safe local application levels of OAE. This approach would also allow for an accurate determination of the fate of added alkalinity and a more realistic carbon storage potential estimation compared to the assessments that neglect carbonate system responses to OAE.”
(lines 58-59) I do not feel that the oceanic residence time for inorganic carbon is a meaningful concept when discussing OAE. If a parcel of seawater is taking up CO2 it is, by definition, at the surface not well-mixed around the ocean.
Thank you very much for the comment. The authors agree and understand that the sentence was misleading. This will be updated to: “Naturally, inorganic carbon is stored in the ocean over periods of time ranging from 10,000 to 100,000 years (Berner et al., 1983; Mackenzie & Garrels, 1966). This long-term carbon storage potential makes OAE a preferred option over other suggested marine CDR methods.”
(line 68) "ground" not "grinded"
This will be adjusted
(Fig. 1 legend). pCO2 is a partial pressure, and thus should be expressed in pressure units (e.g. 420 µatm) not as a mole fraction (420 ppm)
ppm will be replaced by µatm (Captions Fig. 1 and L106)
(lines 122-123) What magnitude are "Minor shifts"?
In the following table we provide the shifts in the control treatments (ΔTA0), at the start and end (after 25 days) of each experiment:
Seawater
conditionsCO2 state to atmosphere
TA [µmol kg-1]
DIC [µmol kg-1]
pH
pCO2 [µatm]
Ω(ar)
Runtime [days]
Temperature range [°C]
abiotic
Equilibrated
-3.96
22.10
-0.050
30.44
-0.25
20
12-16
abiotic
Non-equilibrated
-9.24
9.11
-0.080
59.32
-0.14
20
11-13
biotic
Equilibrated
-39.97
12.03
-0.120
77.08
-0.50
25
12-15
biotic
Non-equilibrated
-34.39
-62.20
0.024
-21.32
0.27
25
10-11
The table will be added to the supplementary materials and a corresponding reference given in L122.
(lines 125-131) What are the measurement uncertainties of these techniques?
The uncertainties were set to: TA ±5 µmol kg-1; pH ±0.02, based on frequent measurements of standards. The uncertainty for temperature, of ±0.1°C, was taken from the probe’s certified specifications. For salinity the uncertainty of ±0.1 was extracted from the calibration standard instructions. These numbers were also used for error propagations in CO2sys based on Orr et al. (2018). This information will be added within section 2.2, “Sampling and measurements”
(line 195) missing word?
A comma will be added in L194 and a “such” in L195
Will be adjusted to: “[…], indicating the formation of non-carbonate-bearing secondary phases such as Mg(OH)2 (also see section 4.3).”
(line 227) The maximum value for mol% C is high enough to suggest some bicarbonate may also be present in these solids (or there is a typo?)
Given numbers represent the ranges of nine EDX measurements, which might have caused some confusion, as we didn’t exclude the outliers. Ranges will be replaced by the median values: Ca: 8.39 mol%, Mg: 4.07 mol%, Na: 0.65 mol%, C: 20.41 mol%, O: 64.8 mol%, and Cl: 0.47 mol% (Fig. R1). FTIR analysis of the precipitates, as reported in Paul et al. (2024), show an aragonite dominated material. So far, the authors are not aware that bicarbonate phases could be detected to a considerable amount as a precipitated phase during a runaway process as a consequence of OAE.
Fig. R1: Box plot elemental composition of EDX measurements of precipitates, in mol%, n=9
Reference:
Paul, A. J., Haunost, M., Goldenberg, S. U., Hartmann, J., Sánchez, N., Schneider, J., Suitner, N., and Riebesell, U.: Ocean alkalinity enhancement in an open ocean ecosystem: Biogeochemical responses and carbon storage durability, EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-417, 2024.
(line 317) What are "varying framework conditions"?
Factors like: Temperature, salinity, particle load, available reactive surface area, agitation method, CO2-equilibration state, solid or liquid TA addition, type and size of reaction vessel, etc.
For clarification a selection will be given in the text.
(line 326) Is "excluded" the word intended here?
Will be adjusted to: […] cannot be ruled out that […]
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2611', Anonymous Referee #2, 13 Apr 2024
Suitner et al. evaluated the tendency of carbonate precipitation associated with ocean alkalinity enhancement. This is a widely interested topic and the paper adds some interesting new experimental results to this thread of research. I have some suggestions for the authors to hopefully help improve the manuscript.
First, the authors might want to be more specific and careful in some expressions, for example, in the abstract, Line 27, what does “promising results in the past” exactly mean? You may want to specify to be more “scientific”. Also, in the abstract, concepts like “runaway precipitation” (Line 28-29) and “CO2-equilibrated approaches” (Line 35) are used without definitions, which might be confusing to readers that are not familiar with the field.
There is a typo in Line 37, “ones” should be “once”.
Second, the figures are a little hard to read – y axis are not uniform between “biotic” and “abiotic” conditions (left and right panels in Figure 2 and 3), making it hard to compare the two scenarios. Also, there seems to be way less alkalinity added in the biotic experiments than the abiotic? Why is this? The two terms – “biotic vs. abiotic” are basically “unfiltered vs. filtered”. Since the manuscript is basically about thermodynamically-driven inorganic carbonate precipitation, and the two conditions (biotic and abiotic) do not show significant differences (is this true? It is hard to tell with the different TA addition ranges and y-axis), the authors could simply use “unfiltered and filtered seawater” for simplicity.
Figure 5 and 6 only have 2 scenarios – abiotic CO2-equilibrated and biotic non-CO2 equilibrated. Why are the other 2 not shown? Biotic CO2-equilibrated and abiotic non-CO2 equilibrated.
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2611', Anonymous Referee #2, 13 Apr 2024 (https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2611-RC2)
Suitner et al. evaluated the tendency of carbonate precipitation associated with ocean alkalinity enhancement. This is a widely interested topic and the paper adds some interesting new experimental results to this thread of research. I have some suggestions for the authors to hopefully help improve the manuscript.
Thank you very much for your comments. Replies and clarifications to questions and comments are given in detail below.
First, the authors might want to be more specific and careful in some expressions, for example, in the abstract, Line 27, what does “promising results in the past” exactly mean? You may want to specify to be more “scientific”.
“While various modeling studies showed promising results in the past, […]” will be adjusted to:
“While modeling studies reported a sequestration potential of 3-30 Gt CO2 per year (Oschlies et al., 2023), […]” (L27)
Reference:
Oschlies, A., Bach, L. T., Rickaby, R. E. M., Satterfield, T., Webb, R., and Gattuso, J.-P.: Climate targets, carbon dioxide removal, and the potential role of ocean alkalinity enhancement, in: Guide to Best Practices in Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement Research, edited by: Oschlies, A., Stevenson, A., Bach, L. T., Fennel, K., Rickaby, R. E. M., Satterfield, T., Webb, R., and Gattuso, J.-P., Copernicus Publications, State Planet, 2-oae2023, 1, https://doi.org/10.5194/sp-2-oae2023-1-2023, 2023.
Also, in the abstract, concepts like “runaway precipitation” (Line 28-29) and “CO2-equilibrated approaches” (Line 35) are used without definitions, which might be confusing to readers that are not familiar with the field.
“Recent studies have described the effect of runaway precipitation in the context of OAE, showing that calcium carbonate formation was triggered if Ωaragonite saturation threshold levels were exceeded.” (L28-30) will be adjusted to:
“Recent studies have described the effect of runaway carbonate precipitation in the context of OAE, showing that calcium carbonate formation was triggered if certain Ωaragonite saturation thresholds were exceeded. This effect could potentially lead to a net loss of the initially added alkalinity, counteracting the whole concept of OAE.”
“For the CO2-equilibrated approaches, […]” (L35) will be changed to:
“For approaches equilibrated to the CO2 concentrations of the atmosphere, […]”
Also, the authors would like to suggest changing “The CO2-non-equilibrated approaches, […]” (L38) to: “The non-CO2-equilibrated approaches, […]”
There is a typo in Line 37, “ones” should be “once”.
Typo will be corrected
Second, the figures are a little hard to read – y axis are not uniform between “biotic” and “abiotic” conditions (left and right panels in Figure 2 and 3), making it hard to compare the two scenarios.
y-axes of Fig. 2 will be harmonized, the intention behind the non-conformance in axis limits in Fig. 2 was to allow for a comparison with the diagrams in Fig. 3.
Also, there seems to be way less alkalinity added in the biotic experiments than the abiotic? Why is this?
The lower amount of added alkalinity within the “biotic” and “abiotic” approaches originates from differing main objectives in the experimental design. The biotic approaches aimed to understand the response of the phytoplankton community. The abiotic experiments were designed to explore stability ranges and precipitation effects, making it essential to expand the examined TA range to much higher levels in the CO2-equilibrated approaches. Within the “abiotic” non-CO2-equilibrated treatments the TA range was increased to confirm the uniform “buffering” effect of Mg(OH)2 formation above ΔTA2400.
The two terms – “biotic vs. abiotic” are basically “unfiltered vs. filtered”. Since the manuscript is basically about thermodynamically-driven inorganic carbonate precipitation, and the two conditions (biotic and abiotic) do not show significant differences (is this true? It is hard to tell with the different TA addition ranges and y-axis), the authors could simply use “unfiltered and filtered seawater” for simplicity.
Indeed, no significant differences regarding the precipitation behavior could be observed between the “biotic” and “abiotic” approaches (also see L423). Existing deviations most likely originate mainly from temperature differences between the separate experiments.
The wording “biotic” and “abiotic” were used to simplify the comparison with Hartmann et al. (2023) introducing these terms, and to align with the terminology in the upcoming publication on the biological datasets. Both approaches were initially filtered through a 50 µm filter to remove larger biological organisms. The “abiotic” approach was designed to exclude potential influences of biological activity or other factors like natural occurring sediments, achieved by filtering for a second time through a 0.2 µm filter. Therefore, the authors would like to avoid using terms like “unfiltered”, as this might be misleading. To enhance comprehensibility, more detailed explanations will be provided in the method section (L107-108).
Figure 5 and 6 only have 2 scenarios – abiotic CO2-equilibrated and biotic non-CO2 equilibrated. Why are the other 2 not shown? Biotic CO2-equilibrated and abiotic non-CO2 equilibrated.
Related diagrams for the other two scenarios are given in the supplements. Taking into consideration the amount of already shown diagrams, the authors could not see a major benefit in showing these in the main body of the text as well.
Others:
Referring to a community comment sent directly to the authors via email, we would also suggest shifting the highlighted ranges by 50 µmol kg-1 towards higher DIC levels to cover a more realistic range of natural seawater.
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