Early opportunity signals of a tipping point in the UK&rsquo;s second-hand electric vehicle market

Boulton, Chris A.; Buxton, Joshua E.; Lenton, Timothy M.

doi:https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2234

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Early opportunity signals of a tipping point in the UK’s second-hand electric vehicle market

Chris A. Boulton, Joshua E. Buxton, and Timothy M. Lenton

Abstract. The use of early warning signals to detect the movement of natural systems towards tipping points is well established. Here, we explore whether the same indicators can provide early opportunity signals (EOS) of a tipping point in a social dataset – views of online electric vehicle (EV) adverts from a UK car selling website (2018–2023). The daily share of EV adverts views (versus non-EV adverts) is small but increasing overall and responds to specific external events, including abrupt petrol/diesel price increases, by spiking upwards before returning to a quasi-equilibrium state. An increasing return time observed over time indicates a loss of resilience of the incumbent state dominated by ICEV advert views. View share also exhibits increases in lag-1 autocorrelation and variance consistent with hypothesised movement towards a tipping point to an EV-dominated market. Segregating the viewing data by price range and year, we find a change in viewing habits from 2023. Trends in EOS from EV advert views in low-mid price ranges provide evidence that these sectors of the market may have passed a tipping point, consistent with other evidence that second-hand EVs recently reached price parity with equivalent ICEV models. We provide a case study of how EOS can be used to predict the movement towards tipping in social systems using novel data.

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RC1:
'Comment on egusphere-2023-2234', Lennart Baumgärtner, 05 Mar 2024
General comments
The authors apply statistical methods from the natural systems literature to a social system: the second-hand electric vehicle market in the UK. Based on statistical indicators, they identify “early opportunity signals” (EOS) of a “tipping point” in the overall EV resale market and different niche markets thereof.
They introduce a novel, interesting dataset of the second-hand EV market in the UK with high temporal resolution and details on different heterogeneous sub-markets (particularly different price ranges). They apply existing statistical methods to the new social context of this dataset that help identify non-linear dynamics in social systems. Clearly, these dynamics are very interesting to a number of research fields, as well as policymakers and the private sector. The work presents a meaningful contribution to the field, both in its methods and their application.
At the same time, the fact that the methods and concepts are novel in the field of social science means that they require precise definitions and detailed explanations. As discussed below, the authors should include more details to enable a comprehensive review of their method and make it both replicable and interpretable. I am also concerned about the statistical significance of some of the results.
Provided the authors provide these details and a second review of their method considers them adequate, the work is well worth publishing.
Specific comments
The authors use a number of concepts without providing a clear definition thereof. First and foremost, it is not clear what constitutes a “tipping point”. While this concept may be commonly applied to natural systems, it is unclear what it means in the case of social systems. Particularly in light of S-curve diffusion of technologies, whereby new technologies grow exponentially over several decades (as described by Grübler and cited by the authors), it is unclear how a tipping-point can be interpreted. Depending on the definition, this may have implications for the interpretation of the results and the methods used. Other terms that are used without clear definitions in the social context include “critical slowing down”, or “early warning signals”.

The authors make numerous statistical estimations based on their data. In order to make this work replicable to this and other data sets, it is essential to provide details of these methods. This is especially important in cases where the description of their method is somewhat ambiguous, such as the measurement of the “lag-1 autocorrelation (AR(1))” or the “detection algorithm called asdetect”. I highly recommend the authors include a technical appendix to this work that shows the estimators used and formulas for their stochastic models. This appendix could include:
Data cleaning procedures (such as inflation adjustments)

The AR(1) and variance estimators and models

The kernel smoother used to de-trend the time-series data

The estimator for the Kendall tau correlation

Sensitivity analyses and significance tests

The authors have made a substantial effort to test the statistical significance of their results. There are, however, a few open questions that should be addressed:
Figure 1 g): shows the return time for the 5 different spikes investigated. Given the limited data and the fact that there are no error bars associated with each data point, it is unclear if the increase in return time is statistically significant.

Figure 2: the authors use a variance and AR(1) estimation of the noise over time. Apart from the fact that it is not clear what they estimate in the AR(1) case, the variance estimation may be biased due to the fact that the noise could have heavy tails, as indicated by the spikes in the data. Also, note that most variance estimators assume i.i.d. normal residuals. This contradicts the earlier analysis of increasing return times.

Figure 2: The fact that the time-series data is bounded from below (by zero) may pose an issue to the noise estimation, particularly after de-trending the time-series. It is unclear how this affects the noise during the early phases of the data

Figure 2: The use of a 2-year moving average window to estimate the AR(1) and variance means that individual points in the resulting time-series are strongly correlated. A single event, such as a spike in the data, will impact the variance estimation for all windows that include that event. This may explain the large jumps in the time-series observed in Figure 2 c) and d), as well as Figure 4. The significance test performed by the authors (re-shuffeling the time-series) may not be sufficient to proof statistical significance in the presence of strong correlation since it discards the autocorrelation structure of the data.

Figure 5: Given the estimation challenges described above, it is unclear how significant the results of Figure 5 are.

Technical corrections
The caption of Figure 2 does not match what is shown.

In section 3.2, the authors mention that EVs have not yet reached price parity with ICEVs. It would be good to confirm that with newer Chinese EVs entering the European market and the fact that policy-enabled price parity has already been reached (see section 1 and section 4)

Figures 2 and 4 are unclear on the cost units used (Figure 2 shows no unit on fuel costs, Figure 4 does not indicate any inflation adjustments)

The authors should comment on the nature of the second-hand vehicle market. The fact that second-hand vehicles are of different ages may distort their price.

The authors should comment on how they obtained the specific events listed in section 3.1 (and why they have excluded others)
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2234-RC1
- AC2:
  'Reply on RC1', Chris Boulton, 27 May 2024
  The authors apply statistical methods from the natural systems literature to a social system: the second-hand electric vehicle market in the UK. Based on statistical indicators, they identify “early opportunity signals” (EOS) of a “tipping point” in the overall EV resale market and different niche markets thereof.
  
  They introduce a novel, interesting dataset of the second-hand EV market in the UK with high temporal resolution and details on different heterogeneous sub-markets (particularly different price ranges). They apply existing statistical methods to the new social context of this dataset that help identify non-linear dynamics in social systems. Clearly, these dynamics are very interesting to a number of research fields, as well as policymakers and the private sector. The work presents a meaningful contribution to the field, both in its methods and their application.
  
  At the same time, the fact that the methods and concepts are novel in the field of social science means that they require precise definitions and detailed explanations. As discussed below, the authors should include more details to enable a comprehensive review of their method and make it both replicable and interpretable. I am also concerned about the statistical significance of some of the results.
  Provided the authors provide these details and a second review of their method considers them adequate, the work is well worth publishing.
  
  We thank the reviewer for taking their time to review the manuscript and for seeing it as a meaningful contribution to the field. We also thank them for their comments below which we are confident we are able to address. Please find our responses below in italics.
  
  We will add more background and definitions to explain concepts and provide better technical documentation to provide details regarding the statistical methods used in the paper as suggested by the reviewer.
  
  Specific comments
  The authors use a number of concepts without providing a clear definition thereof. First and foremost, it is not clear what constitutes a “tipping point”. While this concept may be commonly applied to natural systems, it is unclear what it means in the case of social systems. Particularly in light of S-curve diffusion of technologies, whereby new technologies grow exponentially over several decades (as described by Grübler and cited by the authors), it is unclear how a tipping-point can be interpreted. Depending on the definition, this may have implications for the interpretation of the results and the methods used. Other terms that are used without clear definitions in the social context include “critical slowing down”, or “early warning signals”.
  
  We will add a clear definition of a tipping point, which in the case of S-curve diffusion of innovations is typically definable in terms of a critical mass of adoption, i.e. the point at which one more person adopting ultimately triggers the majority to adopt in a self-propelling fashion. Critical mass tipping points can arise from several distinct reinforcing feedback mechanisms, as reviewed in e.g. Lenton et al. (2022)*. For example, Everett Rogers in his classic text on diffusion of innovations describes the learning process whereby early adopters share knowledge with others in a population encouraging increased adoption (without any need for change in the qualities of the thing being adopted). This is pertinent to our case study. Alternatively, ‘increasing returns’ describes how adoption can increase the pay off for the next adopter, thanks to learning curves for a technology itself (e.g. involving learning-by-doing, economies-of-scale). This is being seen for EVs getting better and cheaper over time (both firsthand and secondhand) as well as the charging infrastructure and associated convenience of use getting better with increased adoption.
  We will also add definitions of critical slowing down and early warning/opportunity signals. These are generic dynamical systems concepts with mathematical and statistical definitions, but we will endeavour to adapt them to the social context. Specifically, ‘critical slowing down’ refers to damping feedbacks that maintain the incumbent attractor of a system getting weaker (and associated recovery from perturbations getting slower) until they disappear at a tipping point, where reinforcing feedbacks take over. In social systems, damping feedback can be framed in terms of actions that tend to maintain the status quo (of ICEV market dominance) – e.g. car manufacturers and consumers resisting change. Reinforcing feedbacks are touched on above. Early warning/opportunity signals in the social context are signs that the incumbent regime/technology is losing resilience (ability to recover from shocks). In our specific case they are signs that a predominant focus of market interest (advert views) on the incumbent technology choice (ICEVs) is losing resilience. We show this in the converse of increasing resilience of market interest in EVs.
  *Lenton, T. M., Benson, S., Smith, T., Ewer, T., Lanel, V., Petykowski, E., ... & Sharpe, S. (2022). Operationalising positive tipping points towards global sustainability. Global Sustainability, 5, e1
  
  The authors make numerous statistical estimations based on their data. In order to make this work replicable to this and other data sets, it is essential to provide details of these methods. This is especially important in cases where the description of their method is somewhat ambiguous, such as the measurement of the “lag-1 autocorrelation (AR(1))” or the “detection algorithm called asdetect”. I highly recommend the authors include a technical appendix to this work that shows the estimators used and formulas for their stochastic models. This appendix could include:
  
  o Data cleaning procedures (such as inflation adjustments)
  o The AR(1) and variance estimators and models
  o The kernel smoother used to de-trend the time-series data
  o The estimator for the Kendall tau correlation
  o Sensitivity analyses and significance tests
  We will write a technical appendix to expand on the methods we use in the paper. We didn’t want to the paper to be too technical and thus appeal to readers from a number of different fields so having this as a separate document is a good idea. A lot of the methods are using functions in R so we can expand on what these are doing in this document (the estimators for example). Although the sensitivity analyses and significance tests are described in the main text, they will benefit from being expanded upon in this document too.
  We note that we do not adjust for inflation as we believe that the main reason for the behaviour we see is the influx of cars returned on 3 year leases. Adjusting for inflation across bands of £5,000 is not going to change the results but may cause some confusion when explaining. We will mention that we have decided not to do this in the discussion and could be an avenue for future work.
  
  The authors have made a substantial effort to test the statistical significance of their results. There are, however, a few open questions that should be addressed:
  
  Figure 1 g): shows the return time for the 5 different spikes investigated. Given the limited data and the fact that there are no error bars associated with each data point, it is unclear if the increase in return time is statistically significant.
  
  We agree, and will amend the sentence at the end of the paragraph: ‘While we are unable to comment on the significance on a trend in return time over 5 time points, return time increases…’
  Figure 2: the authors use a variance and AR(1) estimation of the noise over time. Apart from the fact that it is not clear what they estimate in the AR(1) case, the variance estimation may be biased due to the fact that the noise could have heavy tails, as indicated by the spikes in the data. Also, note that most variance estimators assume i.i.d. normal residuals. This contradicts the earlier analysis of increasing return times.
  
  We agree, and will put a caveat at the end of section 3.1 stating ‘ we are aware that these spikes in attention do mean that the noise driving the system is not randomly distributed white noise, which is a general requirement of these EOS. Nonetheless they can still tell us something about the changing resilience of the system.’
  Figure 2: The fact that the time-series data is bounded from below (by zero) may pose an issue to the noise estimation, particularly after de-trending the time-series. It is unclear how this affects the noise during the early phases of the data
  
  The view share is bounded by 0, however it does not reach 0 with the minimum being 0.3. As such we are confident that our results are unaffected by this bounding, even with detrending.
  Figure 2: The use of a 2-year moving average window to estimate the AR(1) and variance means that individual points in the resulting time-series are strongly correlated. A single event, such as a spike in the data, will impact the variance estimation for all windows that include that event. This may explain the large jumps in the time-series observed in Figure 2 c) and d), as well as Figure 4. The significance test performed by the authors (re-shuffeling the time-series) may not be sufficient to proof statistical significance in the presence of strong correlation since it discards the autocorrelation structure of the data.
  
  We understand the reviewer’s concern, however by varying the window length used, smaller windows will have less events in, combined with the smaller bandwidth on the detrending function, we have done all we can to remove the effect of these events. Regarding the reshuffling, it is done on the residuals of the time series after detrending, and is done on the full time series rather than in windows and actually is designed to destroy the autocorrelation such that we can determine what autocorrelation trends could occur by chance. We will add in ‘These null models are designed to destroy the memory in the time series, such that we can observe what EOS trends we could observe by chance.’
  Figure 5: Given the estimation challenges described above, it is unclear how significant the results of Figure 5 are.
  
  Hopefully with the above cleared up, the significance values in Fig. 5 are sufficient.
  Technical corrections
  The caption of Figure 2 does not match what is shown.
  
  Thank you for pointing this out, we will alter the caption.
  In section 3.2, the authors mention that EVs have not yet reached price parity with ICEVs. It would be good to confirm that with newer Chinese EVs entering the European market and the fact that policy-enabled price parity has already been reached (see section 1 and section 4)
  
  This may be a misunderstanding as we are talking about the second-hand vehicle market, and over the time frame of our dataset rather than presently. At the start of 3.2, we say that cheaper EVs are expected to reach price parity with equivalent ICEVs and will add ‘During the time period covered by the dataset’ at the start.
  Figures 2 and 4 are unclear on the cost units used (Figure 2 shows no unit on fuel costs, Figure 4 does not indicate any inflation adjustments)
  
  We will add the fuel cost units on Figure 1. We have not done any inflation adjustments so have not changed Figure 4.
  The authors should comment on the nature of the second-hand vehicle market. The fact that second-hand vehicles are of different ages may distort their price.
  
  In the discussion section talking about the return of 3 year lease EVs, we will put ‘Unlike new vehicles, second-hand vehicle prices are dictated strongly by their age.’
  The authors should comment on how they obtained the specific events listed in section 3.1 (and why they have excluded others)
  
  The events in the time series cause spikes in attention that are at least 2 standard deviations away from the trend (when using the Kernal smoothing function). We will add a plot in detailing this.
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2234-AC2
RC2:
'Comment on egusphere-2023-2234', Gianluca Grimalda, 19 Apr 2024
The paper aims to apply techniques of analysis from earth sciences - specifically, the identification of Early Warning Systems - to economic choices. The main idea is that the slowness with which a system comes back to the current steady state can be interpreted as a sign of “stress” that signals the future convergence to another steady state. This methodology applies, in particular, to systems that are characterized by tipping point dynamics. In this paper, the authors apply this technique to the UK second-hand electric car markets.

I think the methodology is fascinating and could provide valuable insights into social and economic dynamics. I think the paper could be improved if the authors tried to incorporate more the specificity of social and economic steady states into their analysis. I also think the authors should critically discuss the extent to which their analysis should really be indicative of a tipping point switch.

Major points:
The authors do not analyse in detail the theoretical underpinnings of what they call a switch from a market dominated by Internal Combustion Engine Vehicles (ICEV) to one dominated by Electric Vehicles (EV). I think the reader may benefit from a general treatment of a market equilibrium. A market equilibrium is characterized by equality of supply of demands with respect to a price level. From an economics perspective, the modelling of such a steady state would take into account that the purchase of a car is an investment, i.e., an action carried out today that will bring out benefits over the future. The buyer will take into account factors such as (a) the current price; (b) the future price level (if s/he wanted to resell the car); (c) the expected energy costs associated with the use of the vehicle; (d) accessibility of infrastructure, etc. The buyer may also consider non-economic factors such as (e) the environmental impact of using the car; (f) its popularity with the public, etc. The buyer will typically compare all the above factors with respect to several types of vehicles. At its simplest level, the buyer will compare the above factors for EV and CEV. The producer’s decision will also involve a comparison between the profitability of investing into EVs or CEVs taking into account expected demand. One could think that this interaction is characterized not just by two equilibria but by an infinite collection of equilibria ranging from no use of EVs to universal use of EVs, all of which are characterised by equality in demand and supply at a certain price level. In order for a product to “dominate” a market, one would want to introduce some non-linearity in the system. I think the most obvious way would be to assume a model of technological change characterised by a logistic-like curve, in which technological progress is steep when the technology is “young”, and it reaches a plateau when it is “mature” (see references below). The mature technology can then be overtaken by a new young technology. In the case of ICEV, the switch from increasing returns to scale to decreasing returns to scale in technological progress may be determined by institutional or economic constraints in access to a certain natural resource - fossil fuels in this case. This model would create a situation of multiplicity of equilibria with a tipping point dynamics. In general terms, we could also model this situation as a “coordination game” with a representative consumer and a representative producer, in which the two equilibria are characterised by high consumer demand for EV and high producer investment in EV, or low consumer demand for EV and low producer investment in EV. A coordination game is characterised by a tipping point dynamic.

The analysis provided by the author is fascinating and suggestive of possible tipping point dynamics. However, it would take a big leap of faith to believe that the system will now switch to an EV-dominated market on the basis of four episodes of critical slowing down in the advert market. In the lack of extensive analyses of similar social dynamics, it becomes impossible to ascertain whether this evidence is sufficient or not. Relatedly, I felt that the claim that “a tipping point has been crossed for some price ranges” (line 221) is a bit of an overstatement. I suppose the authors could slightly reposition their paper in saying that they provide pioneering analyses of early ‘opportunity’ signals (EOS) predicting tipping points in social systems, which will have to be complemented by re-examination and further research to be thoroughly evaluated.

It could be that the authors are right and product adverts are indeed successful EOS predicting tipping points in socio-economic systems. However, I am left wondering whether other signals may be used in addition to product adverts. In the light of the above market analysis, one could think of supply-side indicators, such as stock exchange fluctuations, firms’ investment, firms’ sales. From the demand side, google searches may also be used. All these indicators may converge into a dashboard of EOS. To the very least, the authors should critically discuss why they opted for the specific indicator they used, as well as the pros and cons of using a dashboard of indicators rather than just one indicator.

It may also be helpful to characterize other differences between social systems and physics systems. The authors state that “EWS generally assume a timescale separation; a long term, slow forcing towards tipping” (line 44). As the authors already hint at, in social systems the forcing could be instantaneous and still trigger a switch. Suppose that all world governments announced the ban of fossil fuels from tomorrow. We can be sure that the system would tip overnight. With social systems, the forcing may be given by expectations over future states, thus possibly changing instantaneously. This characterisation probably does not apply to the present case study, but it may be worth bearing it in mind.

Minor points:
In the conclusions, I notice a more modest definition of what the authors mean by tipping point, which is inconsistent with what given in the introduction: “a tipping point in UK public interest in (mostly) second-hand EVs is being approached”.

Maybe an “objective” criterion should be given to define what a price spike is? This would be good also for replication/extension of the methodology.

Relatedly, maybe some other petrol price spikes did not lead to any appreciable change in advert views? Is there a way we can rule out the choice of spikes was somehow “biased”?

In the analyses reported at lines 136 and ff, what is N?

I think it would be good to show the evolution of EV cars in the UK market, for the reader to appreciate actual market evolution.

Line 11: ICEV not previously defined.

References:
Dosi, G., Moneta, A., & Stepanova, E. (2019). Dynamic increasing returns and innovation diffusion: bringing Polya Urn processes to the empirical data. Industry and Innovation, 26(4), 461-478.
Kucharavy, D., & De Guio, R. (2011). Application of S-shaped curves. Procedia Engineering, 9, 559-572.
Silverberg, G., & Verspagen, B. (1994). Collective learning, innovation and growth in a boundedly rational, evolutionary world. Journal of Evolutionary Economics, 4, 207-226.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2234-RC2
- AC1:
  'Reply on RC2', Chris Boulton, 27 May 2024
  The paper aims to apply techniques of analysis from earth sciences - specifically, the identification of Early Warning Systems - to economic choices. The main idea is that the slowness with which a system comes back to the current steady state can be interpreted as a sign of “stress” that signals the future convergence to another steady state. This methodology applies, in particular, to systems that are characterized by tipping point dynamics. In this paper, the authors apply this technique to the UK second-hand electric car markets.
  
  I think the methodology is fascinating and could provide valuable insights into social and economic dynamics. I think the paper could be improved if the authors tried to incorporate more the specificity of social and economic steady states into their analysis. I also think the authors should critically discuss the extent to which their analysis should really be indicative of a tipping point switch.
  
  We thank the reviewer for their time reviewing our manuscript and for seeing its worth. We believe the comments below to be constructive and will help the manuscript be useful to a larger audience. Please find our responses to the comments below in italics.
  
  We will add a framing in terms of social and economic stable states (attractors) to our analysis. For the car market, historical observation is that one technology and associated infrastructure tends to dominate.
  
  Major points:
  The authors do not analyse in detail the theoretical underpinnings of what they call a switch from a market dominated by Internal Combustion Engine Vehicles (ICEV) to one dominated by Electric Vehicles (EV). I think the reader may benefit from a general treatment of a market equilibrium. A market equilibrium is characterized by equality of supply of demands with respect to a price level. From an economics perspective, the modelling of such a steady state would take into account that the purchase of a car is an investment, i.e., an action carried out today that will bring out benefits over the future. The buyer will take into account factors such as (a) the current price; (b) the future price level (if s/he wanted to resell the car); (c) the expected energy costs associated with the use of the vehicle; (d) accessibility of infrastructure, etc. The buyer may also consider non-economic factors such as (e) the environmental impact of using the car; (f) its popularity with the public, etc. The buyer will typically compare all the above factors with respect to several types of vehicles. At its simplest level, the buyer will compare the above factors for EV and CEV. The producer’s decision will also involve a comparison between the profitability of investing into EVs or CEVs taking into account expected demand. One could think that this interaction is characterized not just by two equilibria but by an infinite collection of equilibria ranging from no use of EVs to universal use of EVs, all of which are characterised by equality in demand and supply at a certain price level. In order for a product to “dominate” a market, one would want to introduce some non-linearity in the system. I think the most obvious way would be to assume a model of technological change characterised by a logistic-like curve, in which technological progress is steep when the technology is “young”, and it reaches a plateau when it is “mature” (see references below). The mature technology can then be overtaken by a new young technology. In the case of ICEV, the switch from increasing returns to scale to decreasing returns to scale in technological progress may be determined by institutional or economic constraints in access to a certain natural resource - fossil fuels in this case. This model would create a situation of multiplicity of equilibria with a tipping point dynamics. In general terms, we could also model this situation as a “coordination game” with a representative consumer and a representative producer, in which the two equilibria are characterised by high consumer demand for EV and high producer investment in EV, or low consumer demand for EV and low producer investment in EV. A coordination game is characterised by a tipping point dynamic.
  
  These points are very well taken and tally with our own previous writing e.g. in Lenton et al. (2022)*. We will add to the paper a framing in terms of alternative market equilibria and a justification for it in the case of the car market and associated technologies. Firstly, history shows that after an initial interval in the early 1900s, where three car engine technologies coexisted (steam, electric, and gasoline), the gasoline car passed a tipping point of adoption where it rapidly came to dominate (and replace the horse-drawn carriage), with a host of reinforcing feedbacks supporting the self-propelling transition, including social contagion, learning-by-doing, economies-of-scale, and a coordination game. EVs (and their Li-ion batteries) are now displaying all of these reinforcing feedbacks (several of which produce strong increasing returns to adoption), whilst several ‘lock-ins’ to ICEVs and their manufacture are also apparent. There is the clear coordination game of switching to a different powering/fuelling infrastructure alongside changing the engine technology. As production is scaled up, EVs can become cheaper to manufacture (and purchase) than ICEVs and are already considerably cheaper to run, with better performance. Hence all the conditions for alternative stable states and a tipping point are met. The UK secondhand market is particularly interesting as purchase price parity (for equivalent EVs and ICEVs) has recently been achieved, ahead of price parity for new vehicles.
  *Lenton, T. M., Benson, S., Smith, T., Ewer, T., Lanel, V., Petykowski, E., ... & Sharpe, S. (2022). Operationalising positive tipping points towards global sustainability. Global Sustainability, 5, e1
  The analysis provided by the author is fascinating and suggestive of possible tipping point dynamics. However, it would take a big leap of faith to believe that the system will now switch to an EV-dominated market on the basis of four episodes of critical slowing down in the advert market. In the lack of extensive analyses of similar social dynamics, it becomes impossible to ascertain whether this evidence is sufficient or not. Relatedly, I felt that the claim that “a tipping point has been crossed for some price ranges” (line 221) is a bit of an overstatement. I suppose the authors could slightly reposition their paper in saying that they provide pioneering analyses of early ‘opportunity’ signals (EOS) predicting tipping points in social systems, which will have to be complemented by re-examination and further research to be thoroughly evaluated.
  
  We agree that a tipping point is not yet firmly established and will rephrase accordingly. We will build a stronger case that a tipping point can exist (see above). At the specific point (line 221) we will refer to our results/evidence that the system may be approaching a tipping point and might have crossed it in some price ranges. There is separate information (from AutoTrader) that purchase price parity of equivalent EV and ICEV models has been reached in some price ranges towards the end of the timeseries we analyse. We recognise that other factors, as noted by the referee, can influence a ‘critical mass’ tipping point of adoption, but nevertheless purchase price is an important one.
  It could be that the authors are right and product adverts are indeed successful EOS predicting tipping points in socio-economic systems. However, I am left wondering whether other signals may be used in addition to product adverts. In the light of the above market analysis, one could think of supply-side indicators, such as stock exchange fluctuations, firms’ investment, firms’ sales. From the demand side, google searches may also be used. All these indicators may converge into a dashboard of EOS. To the very least, the authors should critically discuss why they opted for the specific indicator they used, as well as the pros and cons of using a dashboard of indicators rather than just one indicator.
  
  These are good suggestions that we have also been considering. In a separate submitted paper we have analysed (firsthand) market share data for EVs and ICEVs for a number of countries and also found early opportunity signals in major markets including China and European ones. We will add to this paper some discussion of alternative data sources that could be analysed for EOS, and some discussion of the merits and limitations of using a dashboard of multiple indicators rather than just one indicator.
  It may also be helpful to characterize other differences between social systems and physics systems. The authors state that “EWS generally assume a timescale separation; a long term, slow forcing towards tipping” (line 44). As the authors already hint at, in social systems the forcing could be instantaneous and still trigger a switch. Suppose that all world governments announced the ban of fossil fuels from tomorrow. We can be sure that the system would tip overnight. With social systems, the forcing may be given by expectations over future states, thus possibly changing instantaneously. This characterisation probably does not apply to the present case study, but it may be worth bearing it in mind.
  
  We will add some characterisation of pertinent differences between physical and social systems. We recognise the possibilities and also that very rapid forcing past a tipping point, if there were no steady changes towards the tipping point beforehand, could produce cases of tipping without early warming/opportunity signals. We will add some discussion on that possibility, but also note that there are several slower forcing factors in our chosen case. For example, emissions regulation on ICEVs have been progressively ramped up over time (e.g. in the EU) and bans on petrol/diesel car sales are not implemented simultaneously everywhere, rather they are occurring in different countries at different times, but all act to stimulate innovation, price declines and quality improvements in a globalised market (to varying degrees, depending on country market size).
  
  Minor points:
  In the conclusions, I notice a more modest definition of what the authors mean by tipping point, which is inconsistent with what given in the introduction: “a tipping point in UK public interest in (mostly) second-hand EVs is being approached”.
  
  To make the distinction between these two tipping points, we will change the sentence in the conclusion to ‘A tipping point in sales as theorised in the introduction may be expected to follow.’
  Maybe an “objective” criterion should be given to define what a price spike is? This would be good also for replication/extension of the methodology.
  
  Relatedly, maybe some other petrol price spikes did not lead to any appreciable change in advert views? Is there a way we can rule out the choice of spikes was somehow “biased”?
  
  We are answering these two comments together. Based on the other reviewers’ comments, we will describe how we chose the spikes in attention in the view share time series, based on change that is 2 standard deviations away from the trend of the time series. Spikes in fuel prices are used more as a descriptive entity to determine why we see spikes in attention, and we agree that there are some increases in fuel prices that do not appear to directly link to spikes in attention. We can only speculate that the media in the UK also drive this and that particularly for the last spike (v), approaching the £2 mark was a milestone that would have grabbed attention. The increase afterwards towards the end of 2023 occurring in a decreasing price trend, for example, was unlikely to have caused the same attention. We will add that the media likely plays a role and that this has not been explored.
  In the analyses reported at lines 136 and ff, what is N?
  
  If the reviewer is referring to the length of AR(1) time series then we will add this in. If they are instead referring to the detrending bandwidth used in the detrending function we will add this in.
  I think it would be good to show the evolution of EV cars in the UK market, for the reader to appreciate actual market evolution.
  
  We will show the market share of EV sales in the UK as a time series to show how this has evolved over time.
  Line 11: ICEV not previously defined.
  
  Thank you for spotting this, we will add this in now.
  
  References:
  Dosi, G., Moneta, A., & Stepanova, E. (2019). Dynamic increasing returns and innovation diffusion: bringing Polya Urn processes to the empirical data. Industry and Innovation, 26(4), 461-478.
  Kucharavy, D., & De Guio, R. (2011). Application of S-shaped curves. Procedia Engineering, 9, 559-572.
  Silverberg, G., & Verspagen, B. (1994). Collective learning, innovation and growth in a boundedly rational, evolutionary world. Journal of Evolutionary Economics, 4, 207-226.
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2234-AC1

Chris A. Boulton, Joshua E. Buxton, and Timothy M. Lenton

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Short summary

Early warning signals (EWS) of tipping points (TP), are used to detect resilience loss in the incumbent regime of ICEVs, towards an electric vehicle (EV) dominated state. View share of EV ads on a UK car selling platform shows evidence of approaching a TP, with results suggesting low-mid price ranges may have passed it, likely due to achieved price parity between EVs and non-EVs in sectors of the second-hand market, showing that EWS of positive TPs are possible in social-technological systems.


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