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Spring tropical cyclones modulate near-surface isotopic compositions of atmospheric water vapour at Kathmandu, Nepal
Abstract. The Arabian Sea (AS) and the Bay of Bengal (BoB) are the major part of the Indian Ocean where cyclonic activities prevail each year, resulting in extreme precipitation events, particularly during the pre-monsoon season. Despite the significance of cyclones in Nepal, no studies have investigated their impact on the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapour (δ18Ov, δDv, and d-excessv). Here, we present the results of continuous measurements of the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapour at Kathmandu from 7 May to 7 June 2021 during two pre-monsoon cyclone events, namely cyclone Tauktae formed over the Arabian Sea, and cyclone Yaas formed over the Bay of Bengal. We observed a significant depletion of δ18Ov and δDv during both cyclone events compared to before and after the cyclone events which was attributed to changes in moisture sources (local vs. marine) as inferred from backward moisture trajectories. The outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) and regional precipitation during cyclone events together with the observed correlation between vertical velocity and δ18Ov showed high moisture convergence and heavy convection at and around the measurement site which caused unusually depleted δ18Ov during that period. Moisture convergence and convection were stronger during cyclone Yaas which resulted in higher (lower) d-excessv (δ18Ov), compared to Tauktae, possibly due to strong downdrafts during the cyclone-related rain events which can transport vapour with higher (lower) d-excessv (δ18Ov) toward the surface. Our study reveals that tropical cyclones that originated from the BoB and the AS modulate isotopic signals of near-surface atmospheric water vapour considerably in Nepal. Hence caution should be made while interpreting the isotopic variability during the non-monsoon season and the effect of cyclones on the isotopic composition of precipitation and atmospheric water vapour. Our results shed light on key processes governing the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapour at Kathmandu and may have implications for the paleoclimate reconstruction of tropical cyclone activity.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Anonymous Referee #1, 29 Oct 2023
Comments on manuscript entitled “Spring tropical cyclones modulate near-surface isotopic compositions of atmospheric water vapour at Kathmandu, Nepal” by Adhikari et al.
Due to the lacking of high-resolution observations of water vapor isotopic compositions, its evolution pattern and controlling factors remains unclear. In this study, the authors present the continuous observations water vapor isotopes at Kathmandu during the periods of two cyclones in spring formed over the Arabian Sea and the Bay of Bengal. Their results reveal the key processes controlling the isotopic composition of water vapor and have implications for paleoclimate reconstruction of Indian Ocean cyclones. I would like to provide some comments below.
The evolution features of vapor isotopes before, during, and after the two cyclones have been presented in section 3.1. The features of day-to-day isotopic variations presented in section 3.2 are similar to in section 3.1. In addition, the diurnal variations of δ18Ov and δDv are very weak, which should be overwhelmed by the synoptic processes during the cyclone activity. As a result, I think the section 3.2 is redundant.
The authors surmise that the higher d-excess during cyclone Yaas might associated with downdrafts during convective rain events, which is possible. However, the low condensation temperature of precipitation during strong convection and the decrease of relative humidity in the moisture source region also can lead to the increase of d-excess. Can the influences of the latter two factors be excluded? If not, please clarify.
The relationship between cyclone isotope values and local weather parameters is of little importance, and changes in isotope values are mainly influenced by moisture sources and strong convective processes. Therefore, section 3.4 could be deleted.
What is indicated by the multiple vertical black dashed lines in Figure 2?
Figures S3-S4 and S7-S8 should be added with the location of the sampling site. In addition, the paths and intensities of the two cyclones need to be presented in more intuitive plots; Figures S3-6 are not enough, although the path of the cyclone center can be seen roughly.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2186-RC1 -
RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Anonymous Referee #2, 08 Nov 2023
General comment
Adhikari et al. investigated the influence of two pre-monsoon cyclones, Tauktae and Yaas, on the isotopic signal of surface water vapor in the region of the Arabian and the Bay of Bengal. For that, they measured the isotopic composition of water vapor continuously from 7 May to 7 June 2021 at Kathmandu with a Picarro instrument. They observed strong decreases of d18O and dD in water vapor during both cyclone events. They explained these signals by high moisture convergence and strong convection at and around the measurement site. They conclude that tropical cyclones that originated from the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea modulate isotopic signals of near-surface atmospheric water vapor considerably in Nepal and may have implications for the tropical cyclone activity in the region.
The interest of this paper is the new isotopic data of d18O in surface water vapor at high temporal resolution in Nepal, which is quite rare in this region. I have several points that need to be addressed for an easier understanding of the paper, in terms of paper organization and language. Moreover, I have some concerns about the relatively short length of the record as well as the restriction of the analyses only on surface water vapor, and not on the isotopic composition of precipitation or in higher layers of the atmosphere (through satellite data for example).
Major specific comments
- The authors focus on two cyclone events and take them together for their analyses (or at least it gives this feeling to the reader), while these two cyclones are quite different in terms of trajectory and precipitation on the measurement site. The authors should clarify the differences and common points of these two cyclones and highlight more these differences for their analyses. Moreover, a figure showing the track and the intensity of the cyclones should be provided to see really the differences between these two cyclones (in section 2.2 for example). Then I expect the authors to more discriminate the effects of the singular cyclone on the isotopic content of water vapor. Maybe different forcing mechanisms between Tauktae and Yaas events are in play (at least the source of water vapor is not the same). Moreover, I think the section 2.4 can be merged to the section 2.2.
- In its present form, the paper is not very clear in terms of organization and has some redundancy and not so useful analyses, as already highlighted by the first reviewer. For example, section 3 should be about Results only. After section 3.2, a discussion section 4 about the controlling factor of the isotopic composition of surface water vapor at Kathmandu should be there, with sub-sections for each mechanism. Moreover, an English language editing is probably necessary to make reading easier.
- I am a little bit puzzled by the shortness of the isotopic records. It would be valuable if the authors have a longer record to show the difference of isotopic response to cyclone events and standard precipitation ones (even if they talk about one such event before cyclone Tauktae). Moreover, I think this study in its present from lacks more comprehensive analyses. For example, it would be interesting to investigate the influence of air motion from upper layers in the atmosphere. The authors could try to use some satellite isotopic data. If some isotope precipitation data in the region are available, it could be a nice added value for the discussion.
- I do not understand why the authors use spatially coarse NCEP data for the outgoing longwave radiation (OLR). Like for the other fields like winds…, the authors should use the state-of-the-art ERA5 data.
- Data availability: the data should be made openly available in a public repository like Zenodo, Figshare, PANGAEA… once the paper accepted (if it is the case). This extremely important point is a sufficient reason for rejecting a paper, especially in open-access EGU journals.
Technical comments:
- Line14: please rephrase.
- Lines 16-18: the isotopes are a tool, not an end in themselves. In other words: why is it interesting to investigate the impact of cyclones on the isotopic composition of water vapor?
- Line 28: during cyclone Yaas, which resulted…
- Lines 45-46: season, also known as the pre-monsoon season.
- Lines 48-49: already said just before.
- Line 57: replace “while” by “and”.
- Line 116: replace “during” by “including”.
- Lines 125-126: give a reference for the temperature and rainfall records.
- Line 132: specific humidity of where? At the surface, at 1000 hPa, vertically integrated?
- Figure 1: First, I am not sure if the plot (a) is so useful. Second, the quality of the figure needs to be improved, especially the plot (b). Third, I would let only the specific humidity in background colors (brown to green colormap for example) and remove the mean vertically integrated moisture flux to improve the readability of the figure. You could put a bigger dot in red for the location of the site.
- Line 143-144: specific humidity at the surface?
- Section 2.2: see my major comment 1.
- Section 2.4: it should be merged with section 2.2.
- Lines 205-206: … tropical cyclones (Jackisch et al., 2022). They have been used…
- Line 214: please add the reference of the ERA5 data (Herbash et al., 2020). See the reference section.
- Lines 222-227: I do not know how to use HYSPLIT, but it sounds the parameters were set just like this. The starting height for the moisture backward trajectories is set to 500 m above ground, and then you say that the average boundary layer height at Katmandu is about 620 m. So why not setting 620 m as an initial starting height and is it important? Please comment.
- Figure 2: The figure needs to be improved. The background colors should be more transparent for a better readability. The contrast between time series of hourly and daily variations should be strengthened.
- Line 235: replace “surrounding” by ‘before and after” (or something similar).
- Lines 255-257: Because there was not enough time for the d18O of water vapor to recover from the first cyclone.
- Section 3.2 and figure 4: For the moment, I do not see the interest of this section. Moreover, did you remove the long-term (i.e., synoptic) trend before doing the muti-daily mean? And an average over 4 days only is quite short anyway.
- From section 3.3: see major comment 2. Please reorganize the paper with clearly separated results and discussion sections. Or it can be by forcing mechanism.
- Lines 383-385: this part is interesting and should be highlighted.
- Line 398: what are the in situ measurements? Please add a reference and a description in the method section.
- Line 471: our study site (Fig. S9).
- Lines 479-482: see major comment 1. Maybe the authors could make one section for each cyclone…
- Lines 488-489: intensity weakened, both d18Ov and dDv started to increase again (Fig. 2) like due to…
- Line 497: during our period of study.
- Line 601: may be visible…
- Lines 609-612: see major comment 3. It’s also interesting to see how the isotopic content of upstream moisture, through transport and convection, influenced the isotopic content of precipitation at the site.
- Figures S3 and S4: change the colormap for considering color vision deficiencies. Also, make the land coast thicker.
- Figures S5 and S6: make the land coasts thicker.
- All maps in supplementary material: show the Kathmandu site.
References
Hersbach, H., Bell, B., Berrisford, P., Hirahara, S., Horányi, A., Muñoz-Sabater, J., et al. (2020). The ERA5 global reanalysis. Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society, 146(730), 1999–2049. https://doi.org/10.1002/qj.3803.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2186-RC2 -
AC1: 'AC: Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Aibin Zhao, 31 Dec 2023
We thank the two reviewers for their constructive comments. We have made our best to address all the comments.
RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Anonymous Referee #1,
Due to the lacking of high-resolution observations of water vapor isotopic compositions, its evolution pattern and controlling factors remains unclear. In this study, the authors present the continuous observations water vapor isotopes at Kathmandu during the periods of two cyclones in spring formed over the Arabian Sea and the Bay of Bengal. Their results reveal the key processes controlling the isotopic composition of water vapor and have implications for paleoclimate reconstruction of Indian Ocean cyclones. I would like to provide some comments below.
RC1: The evolution features of vapor isotopes before, during, and after the two cyclones have been presented in section 3.1. The features of day-to-day isotopic variations presented in section 3.2 are similar to in section 3.1. In addition, the diurnal variations of δ18Ov and δDv are very weak, which should be overwhelmed by the synoptic processes during the cyclone activity. As a result, I think the section 3.2 is redundant.
Response: Thank you for your suggestion. We have integrated essential components of Section 3.2 with Section 3.1 and subsequently omitted the repeated portion. As a result, Section "3.2 Day-to-day and diurnal variations during cyclone events" has been deleted from the revised manuscript. Furthermore, the revised manuscript has been re-arranged with separate sections for results and discussion following the other reviewer’s comments.
RC1: The authors surmise that the higher d-excess during cyclone Yaas might associated with downdrafts during convective rain events, which is possible. However, the low condensation temperature of precipitation during strong convection and the decrease of relative humidity in the moisture source region also can lead to the increase of d-excess. Can the influences of the latter two factors be excluded? If not, please clarify.
Response: Following your constructive comment, we added an in-depth discussion on the impact of convective strength on isotopic depletion, taking cloud-top pressure and temperature (CTP/CTT) as a proxy in section 4.3 from line 581 to 597 as follows:
Given that CTT and CTP are reliable indicators of both moisture convergence and convective strength in prior studies (Cai et al., 2018; Cai and Tian, 2016), we investigate the linear correlation between CTT/CTP (averaged over the 27°N-28°N latitude and 85°E-86°E longitude range, with our site located at the center) and ẟ18Ov (Fig. 11). The results demonstrate a weak positive correlation between CTT/CTP and ẟ18Ov during cyclone Tauktae, and a robust positive correlation during cyclone Yaas. These correlations exhibit greater strength compared to the correlation observed with local rainfall. Previous research has highlighted positive correlations between ẟ18O and CTT/CTP in the East Asian Monsoon suggesting that intense convection and moisture convergence lead to an increase in cloud-top height and a decrease in CTT, causing a reduction in ẟ18O (Cai and Tian, 2016). The decrease in ẟ18Ov during cyclone Yaas coupled with decrease in CTT and CTP, shows the influence of intensified convective activities and moisture convergence, while the isotopic depletion during cyclone Tauktae is attributed to upstream rainout processes. Furthermore, a negative correlation is evident between d-excessv and CTT/CTP, with r = -0.52 and r = -0.60 during cyclone Yaas. Conversely, a weak positive correlation is observed during cyclone Tauktae, with r = 0.32 for both CTT and CTP. This relationship implies that lower CTT and CTP during intense convection relate to increased d-excessv values during the final stage of cyclone Yaas.
RC1: The relationship between cyclone isotope values and local weather parameters is of little importance, and changes in isotope values are mainly influenced by moisture sources and strong convective processes. Therefore, section 3.4 could be deleted.
Response: Following your suggestion, Section 3.4 has been deleted and a discussion on the general relationship between local meteorological parameters and the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapor has been incorporated into the results section.
RC1: What is indicated by the multiple vertical black dashed lines in Figure 2?
Response: The multiple vertical black dashed lines in Figure 2 are just grid lines for X-axis. We have deleted these grid lines in new Figure 3 in the updated manuscript. The revised figure is shown below.
RC1: Figures S3-S4 and S7-S8 should be added with the location of the sampling site. In addition, the paths and intensities of the two cyclones need to be presented in more intuitive plots; Figures S3-6 are not enough, although the path of the cyclone center can be seen roughly.
Response: Following comments from both reviewers, we have eliminated Figures S3-S4 from the supplementary material. The revised supplementary material now includes the location of the sampling site on all maps presented. Additionally, we have incorporated the paths and intensities of the two cyclones, along with accumulated rainfall in new Figure 2. See below.
Following your suggestion, we updated Figures S5-S8 into spatiotemporal differences of regional winds, OLR and precipitation amount during the two cyclone events to quantitate variations as new Figures S3.
RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Anonymous Referee #2,
General comment
Adhikari et al. investigated the influence of two pre-monsoon cyclones, Tauktae and Yaas, on the isotopic signal of surface water vapor in the region of the Arabian and the Bay of Bengal. For that, they measured the isotopic composition of water vapor continuously from 7 May to 7 June 2021 at Kathmandu with a Picarro instrument. They observed strong decreases of d18O and dD in water vapor during both cyclone events. They explained these signals by high moisture convergence and strong convection at and around the measurement site. They conclude that tropical cyclones that originated from the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea modulate isotopic signals of near-surface atmospheric water vapor considerably in Nepal and may have implications for the tropical cyclone activity in the region.
RC2: The interest of this paper is the new isotopic data of d18O in surface water vapor at high temporal resolution in Nepal, which is quite rare in this region. I have several points that need to be addressed for an easier understanding of the paper, in terms of paper organization and language. Moreover, I have some concerns about the relatively short length of the record as well as the restriction of the analyses only on surface water vapor, and not on the isotopic composition of precipitation or in higher layers of the atmosphere (through satellite data for example).
Response: Thanks for your constructive comments. We carefully checked satellite water isotopic datasets from TES and MUSICA IASI. Both ended before 2021 and we cannot find any available satellite isotopic data match our observation date. We did not find the published isotopic composition of precipitation during our observation date either. However, we used regional winds, OLR, CTT, CTP, and precipitation amount during the two cyclone events to extend the analyses in this manuscript. In addition, the spatial correlation between δ18Ov and vertical velocity during both events was analysed in the revised manuscript.
Major specific comments
RC2: The authors focus on two cyclone events and take them together for their analyses (or at least it gives this feeling to the reader), while these two cyclones are quite different in terms of trajectory and precipitation on the measurement site. The authors should clarify the differences and common points of these two cyclones and highlight more these differences for their analyses. Moreover, a figure showing the track and the intensity of the cyclones should be provided to see really the differences between these two cyclones (in section 2.2 for example). Then I expect the authors to more discriminate the effects of the singular cyclone on the isotopic content of water vapor. Maybe different forcing mechanisms between Tauktae and Yaas events are in play (at least the source of water vapor is not the same). Moreover, I think the section 2.4 can be merged to the section 2.2.
Response: Following your suggestions, we tried our best to distinguish the controls factors during Tauktae and Yaas. Figures depicting the intensities of the cyclones and accumulated rainfall along the paths, have been added into the revised manuscript as Figure 2. See below for reference.
Additionally, section 2.4 has been merged to section 2.2 in the revised manuscript. We also rewrite the results and discussion parts separately to more discriminate the effects of the singular cyclone on the isotopic content of water vapor in the updated manuscript. In brief, we have discussed the different relationships between δ18Ov and total rainfall along the moisture trajectories during both cyclone events in Section 4.3 from line 531 to 566. We further examined the distinct roles of convective strength on isotopic depletion, taking cloud-top pressure and temperature (CTP/CTT) as a proxy from line 581 to 597.
RC2: In its present form, the paper is not very clear in terms of organization and has some redundancy and not so useful analyses, as already highlighted by the first reviewer. For example, section 3 should be about Results only. After section 3.2, a discussion section 4 about the controlling factor of the isotopic composition of surface water vapor at Kathmandu should be there, with sub-sections for each mechanism. Moreover, an English language editing is probably necessary to make reading easier.
Response: Thank you for your constructive comments. As per the comments given by both reviewers, the revise manuscript has been re-arranged with separate sections for results and discussion. We tried our best to clarify and compact the revised manuscript. We introduced the data and methods used in the section 2, described the vapour isotopic variations in section 3 and discussed the possible mechanisms for such variations in section 4. Then conclusions are presented in section 5.
Furthermore, the manuscript has undergone comprehensive revisions and thorough editing to address any English language and grammatical errors by a native speaker.
RC2: I am a little bit puzzled by the shortness of the isotopic records. It would be valuable if the authors have a longer record to show the difference of isotopic response to cyclone events and standard precipitation ones (even if they talk about one such event before cyclone Tauktae). Moreover, I think this study in its present from lacks more comprehensive analyses. For example, it would be interesting to investigate the influence of air motion from upper layers in the atmosphere.
Response: Following the reviewer's comments, we not only conducted a comparison of δ18Ov, δDv, and d-excessv values during cyclone events relative to a single pre-cyclone event but also extended the analysis by comparing them with the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapour recorded at the onset of the summer monsoon (i.e., June 2021). The substantial and sustained rainfall observed at the sampling site after the onset of the summer monsoon provides a robust basis for distinguishing the isotopic response to cyclone events with standard precipitation during normal monsoon conditions. The new time series plot of daily average δ18Ov, δDv, and d-excessv observed at Kathmandu site from 07 May to 30 June 2021 together with corresponding surface air temperature, relative humidity, and rainfall amount has been added in supplementary Figure S7 in the updated version. The new figure is displayed below.
Furthermore, in an effort to comprehend the impact of upstream rainout processes and large-scale atmospheric circulation on the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapor, we have introduced a new section, Section 4.3, titled "Influence of rainfall." In this section, we distinguish the varying control mechanisms between cyclones Tauktae and Yaas by examining the effects of rainout processes along moisture trajectories, as well as the influence of cloud-top pressure and cloud-top temperature on δ18Ov, δDv, and d-excessv. We further added the analysis on spatial distribution of correlation coefficient between δ18Ov and vertical velocity during both events to comprehend the impact of convective strength on isotopic depletion in each event.
RC2: The authors could try to use some satellite isotopic data. If some isotope precipitation data in the region are available, it could be a nice added value for the discussion.
Response: We highly value the reviewer's suggestion to incorporate satellite isotopic data. Unfortunately, the satellite isotopic data corresponding to our sampling date is currently unavailable. Specifically, widely-used datasets such as TES only provide isotopic data for tropospheric water vapour up to the year 2018 and MUSICA IASI provide data up to the year 2019. Despite our efforts, we were unable to locate precipitation and upstream vapor isotopic data with a date closely aligned to our measurements. However, we used regional winds, OLR, CTT, CTP, vertical velocity, and precipitation amount during the two cyclone events to extend the analyses in this manuscript.
RC2: I do not understand why the authors use spatially coarse NCEP data for the outgoing longwave radiation (OLR). Like for the other fields like winds…, the authors should use the state-of-the-art ERA5 data.
Response: Following the reviewer’s comment, we have used the state-of-the-art ERA5 data for OLR as shown below. This dataset provides hourly OLR with spatial resolution of 0.25°×0.25°. The results align closely with our original findings.
RC2: Data availability: the data should be made openly available in a public repository like Zenodo, Figshare, PANGAEA… once the paper accepted (if it is the case). This extremely important point is a sufficient reason for rejecting a paper, especially in open-access EGU journals.
Response: We agree with the reviewer. The data used in this study will be openly available in the Zenodo after the paper is accepted.
Technical comments:
RC2: Line14: please rephrase.
Response: This sentence has been rephrased in the revise manuscript.
RC2: Lines 16-18: the isotopes are a tool, not an end in themselves. In other words: why is it interesting to investigate the impact of cyclones on the isotopic composition of water vapor?
Response: This sentence has been deleted and the abstract has been modified accordingly.
RC2: Line 28: during cyclone Yaas, which resulted…
Response: After the thorough revision of the manuscript, this sentence has been eliminated in the revision.
RC2: Lines 45-46: season, also known as the pre-monsoon season.
Response: This sentence has been corrected into “…agricultural activities also rely on precipitation in the pre-monsoon season.” in the revision.
RC2: Lines 48-49: already said just before.
Response: The repeated sentence has been deleted in the revise manuscript.
RC2: Line 57: replace “while” by “and”.
Response: This sentence has been corrected into “According to the International Best Track Archive for Climate Stewardship (IBTrACS) project, in 2019 three cyclones originated in the BoB and five cyclones originated in the AS.” in the revision.
RC2: Line 116: replace “during” by “including”.
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Lines 125-126: give a reference for the temperature and rainfall records.
Response: Reference of the “Department of Hydrology and Meteorology, Government of Nepal” has been added in the revision.
RC2: Line 132: specific humidity of where? At the surface, at 1000 hPa, vertically integrated?
Response: Thank you for your comment. Here we have used the vertically integrated specific humidity (averaged over 1000 hPa to 850 hPa). The sentences have been modified as “…a substantial presence of moisture was observed over extensive areas encompassing the BoB, the AS, India, and surrounding regions including our sampling site. Figure 1 shows the elevated specific humidity levels averaged between 1000 hPa and 850 hPa throughout the duration of our study period….”
RC2: Figure 1: First, I am not sure if the plot (a) is so useful. Second, the quality of the figure needs to be improved, especially the plot (b). Third, I would let only the specific humidity in background colors (brown to green colormap for example) and remove the mean vertically integrated moisture flux to improve the readability of the figure. You could put a bigger dot in red for the location of the site.
Response: Following the reviewer’s comments, Figure 1a has been deleted in the revised manuscript and Figure 1b has been modified. The mean vertically integrated moisture flux has been removed and specific humidity has been plotted in color for more readability in the figure below.
RC2: Line 143-144: specific humidity at the surface?
Response: Figure caption has been modified into “Spatial distribution of specific humidity averaged over 1000 hPa to 850 hPa (in g/Kg) during the period of study. The yellow dot shows the location of Kathmandu.” in the revise manuscript.
RC2: Section 2.2: see my major comment 1.
Response: Modification has been made following the major comment 1.
RC2: Section 2.4: it should be merged with section 2.2.
Response: Following your suggestion, section 2.4 has been merged with section 2.2 in the revision.
RC2: Lines 205-206: … tropical cyclones (Jackisch et al., 2022). They have been used…
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revised manuscript.
RC2: Line 214: please add the reference of the ERA5 data (Herbash et al., 2020). See the reference section.
Response: Correct reference (Herbash et al., 2020) has been added in the revised manuscript.
RC2: Lines 222-227: I do not know how to use HYSPLIT, but it sounds the parameters were set just like this. The starting height for the moisture backward trajectories is set to 500 m above ground, and then you say that the average boundary layer height at Katmandu is about 620 m. So why not setting 620 m as an initial starting height and is it important? Please comment.
Response: Considering the variation in boundary layer height at Kathmandu during the study period, ranging from approximately 100 m to 1170 m, and with the majority of the data falling below 600 m, we set the initial starting height for the moisture backward trajectories to 500 m above ground. Furthermore, we did not find any significant differences between trajectories at 500 m and 620 m. Therefore, taking 500 m for an initial starting height seems appropriate to derive the moisture trajectories during the period of our study. The moisture backward trajectories plotted at 620 m as an initial starting height is shown below.
RC2: Figure 2: The figure needs to be improved. The background colors should be more transparent for a better readability. The contrast between time series of hourly and daily variations should be strengthened.
Response: The figure has been modified in the revise manuscript with more transparent background colors. Additionally, the vertical grid lines have been removed from the figure as pointed out by reviewer 1.
RC2: Line 235: replace “surrounding” by ‘before and after” (or something similar).
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Lines 255-257: Because there was not enough time for the d18O of water vapor to recover from the first cyclone.
Response: Correction has been made accordingly in the revision.
RC2: Section 3.2 and figure 4: For the moment, I do not see the interest of this section. Moreover, did you remove the long-term (i.e., synoptic) trend before doing the muti-daily mean? And an average over 4 days only is quite short anyway.
Response: Following both reviewers’ suggestions, we removed the diurnal variation described in section 3.2 in the revise manuscript.
RC2: From section 3.3: see major comment 2. Please reorganize the paper with clearly separated results and discussion sections. Or it can be by forcing mechanism.
Response: Many thanks for such constructive comments. The revised manuscript has been re-organized with separate result and discussion sections.
RC2: Lines 383-385: this part is interesting and should be highlighted.
Response: Thank you for your comment. The findings presented in lines 383-385 have been further explained within the context of isotopic response, specifically in relation to cyclone events and normal monsoon rain. For additional information, please refer to the response provided in major comment 3.
RC2: Line 398: what are the in situ measurements? Please add a reference and a description in the method section.
Response: We have mentioned all the in situ measurements in data and methods section and necessary reference has been added.
RC2: Line 471: our study site (Fig. S9).
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Lines 479-482: see major comment 1. Maybe the authors could make one section for each cyclone…
Response: We re-organized the manuscript and please refer to the response of major comment 1.
RC2: Lines 488-489: intensity weakened, both d18Ov and dDv started to increase again (Fig. 2) like due to…
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Line 497: during our period of study.
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Line 601: may be visible…
Response: This sentence has been deleted in the revised manuscript.
RC2: Lines 609-612: see major comment 3. It’s also interesting to see how the isotopic content of upstream moisture, through transport and convection, influenced the isotopic content of precipitation at the site.
Response: We agree with the reviewer. Regrettably, we are unable to analyze the isotopic content of upstream moisture due to the lack of corresponding vapour and precipitation isotopic data for our sampling date. Additional details can be found in the response to major comment 3.
RC2: Figures S3 and S4: change the colormap for considering color vision deficiencies. Also, make the land coast thicker.
Response: After detailed revision of the manuscript, we have eliminated Figures S3-S4 from the supplementary material. All maps in the revised supplementary material now include the location of the sampling and the land coast is also thicker than before.
RC2: Figures S5 and S6: make the land coasts thicker.
Response: Correction has been made in the revision.
RC2: All maps in supplementary material: show the Kathmandu site.
Response: The Kathmandu site has been shown in all maps in the supplementary material.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Anonymous Referee #1, 29 Oct 2023
Comments on manuscript entitled “Spring tropical cyclones modulate near-surface isotopic compositions of atmospheric water vapour at Kathmandu, Nepal” by Adhikari et al.
Due to the lacking of high-resolution observations of water vapor isotopic compositions, its evolution pattern and controlling factors remains unclear. In this study, the authors present the continuous observations water vapor isotopes at Kathmandu during the periods of two cyclones in spring formed over the Arabian Sea and the Bay of Bengal. Their results reveal the key processes controlling the isotopic composition of water vapor and have implications for paleoclimate reconstruction of Indian Ocean cyclones. I would like to provide some comments below.
The evolution features of vapor isotopes before, during, and after the two cyclones have been presented in section 3.1. The features of day-to-day isotopic variations presented in section 3.2 are similar to in section 3.1. In addition, the diurnal variations of δ18Ov and δDv are very weak, which should be overwhelmed by the synoptic processes during the cyclone activity. As a result, I think the section 3.2 is redundant.
The authors surmise that the higher d-excess during cyclone Yaas might associated with downdrafts during convective rain events, which is possible. However, the low condensation temperature of precipitation during strong convection and the decrease of relative humidity in the moisture source region also can lead to the increase of d-excess. Can the influences of the latter two factors be excluded? If not, please clarify.
The relationship between cyclone isotope values and local weather parameters is of little importance, and changes in isotope values are mainly influenced by moisture sources and strong convective processes. Therefore, section 3.4 could be deleted.
What is indicated by the multiple vertical black dashed lines in Figure 2?
Figures S3-S4 and S7-S8 should be added with the location of the sampling site. In addition, the paths and intensities of the two cyclones need to be presented in more intuitive plots; Figures S3-6 are not enough, although the path of the cyclone center can be seen roughly.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2186-RC1 -
RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Anonymous Referee #2, 08 Nov 2023
General comment
Adhikari et al. investigated the influence of two pre-monsoon cyclones, Tauktae and Yaas, on the isotopic signal of surface water vapor in the region of the Arabian and the Bay of Bengal. For that, they measured the isotopic composition of water vapor continuously from 7 May to 7 June 2021 at Kathmandu with a Picarro instrument. They observed strong decreases of d18O and dD in water vapor during both cyclone events. They explained these signals by high moisture convergence and strong convection at and around the measurement site. They conclude that tropical cyclones that originated from the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea modulate isotopic signals of near-surface atmospheric water vapor considerably in Nepal and may have implications for the tropical cyclone activity in the region.
The interest of this paper is the new isotopic data of d18O in surface water vapor at high temporal resolution in Nepal, which is quite rare in this region. I have several points that need to be addressed for an easier understanding of the paper, in terms of paper organization and language. Moreover, I have some concerns about the relatively short length of the record as well as the restriction of the analyses only on surface water vapor, and not on the isotopic composition of precipitation or in higher layers of the atmosphere (through satellite data for example).
Major specific comments
- The authors focus on two cyclone events and take them together for their analyses (or at least it gives this feeling to the reader), while these two cyclones are quite different in terms of trajectory and precipitation on the measurement site. The authors should clarify the differences and common points of these two cyclones and highlight more these differences for their analyses. Moreover, a figure showing the track and the intensity of the cyclones should be provided to see really the differences between these two cyclones (in section 2.2 for example). Then I expect the authors to more discriminate the effects of the singular cyclone on the isotopic content of water vapor. Maybe different forcing mechanisms between Tauktae and Yaas events are in play (at least the source of water vapor is not the same). Moreover, I think the section 2.4 can be merged to the section 2.2.
- In its present form, the paper is not very clear in terms of organization and has some redundancy and not so useful analyses, as already highlighted by the first reviewer. For example, section 3 should be about Results only. After section 3.2, a discussion section 4 about the controlling factor of the isotopic composition of surface water vapor at Kathmandu should be there, with sub-sections for each mechanism. Moreover, an English language editing is probably necessary to make reading easier.
- I am a little bit puzzled by the shortness of the isotopic records. It would be valuable if the authors have a longer record to show the difference of isotopic response to cyclone events and standard precipitation ones (even if they talk about one such event before cyclone Tauktae). Moreover, I think this study in its present from lacks more comprehensive analyses. For example, it would be interesting to investigate the influence of air motion from upper layers in the atmosphere. The authors could try to use some satellite isotopic data. If some isotope precipitation data in the region are available, it could be a nice added value for the discussion.
- I do not understand why the authors use spatially coarse NCEP data for the outgoing longwave radiation (OLR). Like for the other fields like winds…, the authors should use the state-of-the-art ERA5 data.
- Data availability: the data should be made openly available in a public repository like Zenodo, Figshare, PANGAEA… once the paper accepted (if it is the case). This extremely important point is a sufficient reason for rejecting a paper, especially in open-access EGU journals.
Technical comments:
- Line14: please rephrase.
- Lines 16-18: the isotopes are a tool, not an end in themselves. In other words: why is it interesting to investigate the impact of cyclones on the isotopic composition of water vapor?
- Line 28: during cyclone Yaas, which resulted…
- Lines 45-46: season, also known as the pre-monsoon season.
- Lines 48-49: already said just before.
- Line 57: replace “while” by “and”.
- Line 116: replace “during” by “including”.
- Lines 125-126: give a reference for the temperature and rainfall records.
- Line 132: specific humidity of where? At the surface, at 1000 hPa, vertically integrated?
- Figure 1: First, I am not sure if the plot (a) is so useful. Second, the quality of the figure needs to be improved, especially the plot (b). Third, I would let only the specific humidity in background colors (brown to green colormap for example) and remove the mean vertically integrated moisture flux to improve the readability of the figure. You could put a bigger dot in red for the location of the site.
- Line 143-144: specific humidity at the surface?
- Section 2.2: see my major comment 1.
- Section 2.4: it should be merged with section 2.2.
- Lines 205-206: … tropical cyclones (Jackisch et al., 2022). They have been used…
- Line 214: please add the reference of the ERA5 data (Herbash et al., 2020). See the reference section.
- Lines 222-227: I do not know how to use HYSPLIT, but it sounds the parameters were set just like this. The starting height for the moisture backward trajectories is set to 500 m above ground, and then you say that the average boundary layer height at Katmandu is about 620 m. So why not setting 620 m as an initial starting height and is it important? Please comment.
- Figure 2: The figure needs to be improved. The background colors should be more transparent for a better readability. The contrast between time series of hourly and daily variations should be strengthened.
- Line 235: replace “surrounding” by ‘before and after” (or something similar).
- Lines 255-257: Because there was not enough time for the d18O of water vapor to recover from the first cyclone.
- Section 3.2 and figure 4: For the moment, I do not see the interest of this section. Moreover, did you remove the long-term (i.e., synoptic) trend before doing the muti-daily mean? And an average over 4 days only is quite short anyway.
- From section 3.3: see major comment 2. Please reorganize the paper with clearly separated results and discussion sections. Or it can be by forcing mechanism.
- Lines 383-385: this part is interesting and should be highlighted.
- Line 398: what are the in situ measurements? Please add a reference and a description in the method section.
- Line 471: our study site (Fig. S9).
- Lines 479-482: see major comment 1. Maybe the authors could make one section for each cyclone…
- Lines 488-489: intensity weakened, both d18Ov and dDv started to increase again (Fig. 2) like due to…
- Line 497: during our period of study.
- Line 601: may be visible…
- Lines 609-612: see major comment 3. It’s also interesting to see how the isotopic content of upstream moisture, through transport and convection, influenced the isotopic content of precipitation at the site.
- Figures S3 and S4: change the colormap for considering color vision deficiencies. Also, make the land coast thicker.
- Figures S5 and S6: make the land coasts thicker.
- All maps in supplementary material: show the Kathmandu site.
References
Hersbach, H., Bell, B., Berrisford, P., Hirahara, S., Horányi, A., Muñoz-Sabater, J., et al. (2020). The ERA5 global reanalysis. Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society, 146(730), 1999–2049. https://doi.org/10.1002/qj.3803.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2186-RC2 -
AC1: 'AC: Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Aibin Zhao, 31 Dec 2023
We thank the two reviewers for their constructive comments. We have made our best to address all the comments.
RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Anonymous Referee #1,
Due to the lacking of high-resolution observations of water vapor isotopic compositions, its evolution pattern and controlling factors remains unclear. In this study, the authors present the continuous observations water vapor isotopes at Kathmandu during the periods of two cyclones in spring formed over the Arabian Sea and the Bay of Bengal. Their results reveal the key processes controlling the isotopic composition of water vapor and have implications for paleoclimate reconstruction of Indian Ocean cyclones. I would like to provide some comments below.
RC1: The evolution features of vapor isotopes before, during, and after the two cyclones have been presented in section 3.1. The features of day-to-day isotopic variations presented in section 3.2 are similar to in section 3.1. In addition, the diurnal variations of δ18Ov and δDv are very weak, which should be overwhelmed by the synoptic processes during the cyclone activity. As a result, I think the section 3.2 is redundant.
Response: Thank you for your suggestion. We have integrated essential components of Section 3.2 with Section 3.1 and subsequently omitted the repeated portion. As a result, Section "3.2 Day-to-day and diurnal variations during cyclone events" has been deleted from the revised manuscript. Furthermore, the revised manuscript has been re-arranged with separate sections for results and discussion following the other reviewer’s comments.
RC1: The authors surmise that the higher d-excess during cyclone Yaas might associated with downdrafts during convective rain events, which is possible. However, the low condensation temperature of precipitation during strong convection and the decrease of relative humidity in the moisture source region also can lead to the increase of d-excess. Can the influences of the latter two factors be excluded? If not, please clarify.
Response: Following your constructive comment, we added an in-depth discussion on the impact of convective strength on isotopic depletion, taking cloud-top pressure and temperature (CTP/CTT) as a proxy in section 4.3 from line 581 to 597 as follows:
Given that CTT and CTP are reliable indicators of both moisture convergence and convective strength in prior studies (Cai et al., 2018; Cai and Tian, 2016), we investigate the linear correlation between CTT/CTP (averaged over the 27°N-28°N latitude and 85°E-86°E longitude range, with our site located at the center) and ẟ18Ov (Fig. 11). The results demonstrate a weak positive correlation between CTT/CTP and ẟ18Ov during cyclone Tauktae, and a robust positive correlation during cyclone Yaas. These correlations exhibit greater strength compared to the correlation observed with local rainfall. Previous research has highlighted positive correlations between ẟ18O and CTT/CTP in the East Asian Monsoon suggesting that intense convection and moisture convergence lead to an increase in cloud-top height and a decrease in CTT, causing a reduction in ẟ18O (Cai and Tian, 2016). The decrease in ẟ18Ov during cyclone Yaas coupled with decrease in CTT and CTP, shows the influence of intensified convective activities and moisture convergence, while the isotopic depletion during cyclone Tauktae is attributed to upstream rainout processes. Furthermore, a negative correlation is evident between d-excessv and CTT/CTP, with r = -0.52 and r = -0.60 during cyclone Yaas. Conversely, a weak positive correlation is observed during cyclone Tauktae, with r = 0.32 for both CTT and CTP. This relationship implies that lower CTT and CTP during intense convection relate to increased d-excessv values during the final stage of cyclone Yaas.
RC1: The relationship between cyclone isotope values and local weather parameters is of little importance, and changes in isotope values are mainly influenced by moisture sources and strong convective processes. Therefore, section 3.4 could be deleted.
Response: Following your suggestion, Section 3.4 has been deleted and a discussion on the general relationship between local meteorological parameters and the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapor has been incorporated into the results section.
RC1: What is indicated by the multiple vertical black dashed lines in Figure 2?
Response: The multiple vertical black dashed lines in Figure 2 are just grid lines for X-axis. We have deleted these grid lines in new Figure 3 in the updated manuscript. The revised figure is shown below.
RC1: Figures S3-S4 and S7-S8 should be added with the location of the sampling site. In addition, the paths and intensities of the two cyclones need to be presented in more intuitive plots; Figures S3-6 are not enough, although the path of the cyclone center can be seen roughly.
Response: Following comments from both reviewers, we have eliminated Figures S3-S4 from the supplementary material. The revised supplementary material now includes the location of the sampling site on all maps presented. Additionally, we have incorporated the paths and intensities of the two cyclones, along with accumulated rainfall in new Figure 2. See below.
Following your suggestion, we updated Figures S5-S8 into spatiotemporal differences of regional winds, OLR and precipitation amount during the two cyclone events to quantitate variations as new Figures S3.
RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2186', Anonymous Referee #2,
General comment
Adhikari et al. investigated the influence of two pre-monsoon cyclones, Tauktae and Yaas, on the isotopic signal of surface water vapor in the region of the Arabian and the Bay of Bengal. For that, they measured the isotopic composition of water vapor continuously from 7 May to 7 June 2021 at Kathmandu with a Picarro instrument. They observed strong decreases of d18O and dD in water vapor during both cyclone events. They explained these signals by high moisture convergence and strong convection at and around the measurement site. They conclude that tropical cyclones that originated from the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea modulate isotopic signals of near-surface atmospheric water vapor considerably in Nepal and may have implications for the tropical cyclone activity in the region.
RC2: The interest of this paper is the new isotopic data of d18O in surface water vapor at high temporal resolution in Nepal, which is quite rare in this region. I have several points that need to be addressed for an easier understanding of the paper, in terms of paper organization and language. Moreover, I have some concerns about the relatively short length of the record as well as the restriction of the analyses only on surface water vapor, and not on the isotopic composition of precipitation or in higher layers of the atmosphere (through satellite data for example).
Response: Thanks for your constructive comments. We carefully checked satellite water isotopic datasets from TES and MUSICA IASI. Both ended before 2021 and we cannot find any available satellite isotopic data match our observation date. We did not find the published isotopic composition of precipitation during our observation date either. However, we used regional winds, OLR, CTT, CTP, and precipitation amount during the two cyclone events to extend the analyses in this manuscript. In addition, the spatial correlation between δ18Ov and vertical velocity during both events was analysed in the revised manuscript.
Major specific comments
RC2: The authors focus on two cyclone events and take them together for their analyses (or at least it gives this feeling to the reader), while these two cyclones are quite different in terms of trajectory and precipitation on the measurement site. The authors should clarify the differences and common points of these two cyclones and highlight more these differences for their analyses. Moreover, a figure showing the track and the intensity of the cyclones should be provided to see really the differences between these two cyclones (in section 2.2 for example). Then I expect the authors to more discriminate the effects of the singular cyclone on the isotopic content of water vapor. Maybe different forcing mechanisms between Tauktae and Yaas events are in play (at least the source of water vapor is not the same). Moreover, I think the section 2.4 can be merged to the section 2.2.
Response: Following your suggestions, we tried our best to distinguish the controls factors during Tauktae and Yaas. Figures depicting the intensities of the cyclones and accumulated rainfall along the paths, have been added into the revised manuscript as Figure 2. See below for reference.
Additionally, section 2.4 has been merged to section 2.2 in the revised manuscript. We also rewrite the results and discussion parts separately to more discriminate the effects of the singular cyclone on the isotopic content of water vapor in the updated manuscript. In brief, we have discussed the different relationships between δ18Ov and total rainfall along the moisture trajectories during both cyclone events in Section 4.3 from line 531 to 566. We further examined the distinct roles of convective strength on isotopic depletion, taking cloud-top pressure and temperature (CTP/CTT) as a proxy from line 581 to 597.
RC2: In its present form, the paper is not very clear in terms of organization and has some redundancy and not so useful analyses, as already highlighted by the first reviewer. For example, section 3 should be about Results only. After section 3.2, a discussion section 4 about the controlling factor of the isotopic composition of surface water vapor at Kathmandu should be there, with sub-sections for each mechanism. Moreover, an English language editing is probably necessary to make reading easier.
Response: Thank you for your constructive comments. As per the comments given by both reviewers, the revise manuscript has been re-arranged with separate sections for results and discussion. We tried our best to clarify and compact the revised manuscript. We introduced the data and methods used in the section 2, described the vapour isotopic variations in section 3 and discussed the possible mechanisms for such variations in section 4. Then conclusions are presented in section 5.
Furthermore, the manuscript has undergone comprehensive revisions and thorough editing to address any English language and grammatical errors by a native speaker.
RC2: I am a little bit puzzled by the shortness of the isotopic records. It would be valuable if the authors have a longer record to show the difference of isotopic response to cyclone events and standard precipitation ones (even if they talk about one such event before cyclone Tauktae). Moreover, I think this study in its present from lacks more comprehensive analyses. For example, it would be interesting to investigate the influence of air motion from upper layers in the atmosphere.
Response: Following the reviewer's comments, we not only conducted a comparison of δ18Ov, δDv, and d-excessv values during cyclone events relative to a single pre-cyclone event but also extended the analysis by comparing them with the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapour recorded at the onset of the summer monsoon (i.e., June 2021). The substantial and sustained rainfall observed at the sampling site after the onset of the summer monsoon provides a robust basis for distinguishing the isotopic response to cyclone events with standard precipitation during normal monsoon conditions. The new time series plot of daily average δ18Ov, δDv, and d-excessv observed at Kathmandu site from 07 May to 30 June 2021 together with corresponding surface air temperature, relative humidity, and rainfall amount has been added in supplementary Figure S7 in the updated version. The new figure is displayed below.
Furthermore, in an effort to comprehend the impact of upstream rainout processes and large-scale atmospheric circulation on the isotopic composition of atmospheric water vapor, we have introduced a new section, Section 4.3, titled "Influence of rainfall." In this section, we distinguish the varying control mechanisms between cyclones Tauktae and Yaas by examining the effects of rainout processes along moisture trajectories, as well as the influence of cloud-top pressure and cloud-top temperature on δ18Ov, δDv, and d-excessv. We further added the analysis on spatial distribution of correlation coefficient between δ18Ov and vertical velocity during both events to comprehend the impact of convective strength on isotopic depletion in each event.
RC2: The authors could try to use some satellite isotopic data. If some isotope precipitation data in the region are available, it could be a nice added value for the discussion.
Response: We highly value the reviewer's suggestion to incorporate satellite isotopic data. Unfortunately, the satellite isotopic data corresponding to our sampling date is currently unavailable. Specifically, widely-used datasets such as TES only provide isotopic data for tropospheric water vapour up to the year 2018 and MUSICA IASI provide data up to the year 2019. Despite our efforts, we were unable to locate precipitation and upstream vapor isotopic data with a date closely aligned to our measurements. However, we used regional winds, OLR, CTT, CTP, vertical velocity, and precipitation amount during the two cyclone events to extend the analyses in this manuscript.
RC2: I do not understand why the authors use spatially coarse NCEP data for the outgoing longwave radiation (OLR). Like for the other fields like winds…, the authors should use the state-of-the-art ERA5 data.
Response: Following the reviewer’s comment, we have used the state-of-the-art ERA5 data for OLR as shown below. This dataset provides hourly OLR with spatial resolution of 0.25°×0.25°. The results align closely with our original findings.
RC2: Data availability: the data should be made openly available in a public repository like Zenodo, Figshare, PANGAEA… once the paper accepted (if it is the case). This extremely important point is a sufficient reason for rejecting a paper, especially in open-access EGU journals.
Response: We agree with the reviewer. The data used in this study will be openly available in the Zenodo after the paper is accepted.
Technical comments:
RC2: Line14: please rephrase.
Response: This sentence has been rephrased in the revise manuscript.
RC2: Lines 16-18: the isotopes are a tool, not an end in themselves. In other words: why is it interesting to investigate the impact of cyclones on the isotopic composition of water vapor?
Response: This sentence has been deleted and the abstract has been modified accordingly.
RC2: Line 28: during cyclone Yaas, which resulted…
Response: After the thorough revision of the manuscript, this sentence has been eliminated in the revision.
RC2: Lines 45-46: season, also known as the pre-monsoon season.
Response: This sentence has been corrected into “…agricultural activities also rely on precipitation in the pre-monsoon season.” in the revision.
RC2: Lines 48-49: already said just before.
Response: The repeated sentence has been deleted in the revise manuscript.
RC2: Line 57: replace “while” by “and”.
Response: This sentence has been corrected into “According to the International Best Track Archive for Climate Stewardship (IBTrACS) project, in 2019 three cyclones originated in the BoB and five cyclones originated in the AS.” in the revision.
RC2: Line 116: replace “during” by “including”.
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Lines 125-126: give a reference for the temperature and rainfall records.
Response: Reference of the “Department of Hydrology and Meteorology, Government of Nepal” has been added in the revision.
RC2: Line 132: specific humidity of where? At the surface, at 1000 hPa, vertically integrated?
Response: Thank you for your comment. Here we have used the vertically integrated specific humidity (averaged over 1000 hPa to 850 hPa). The sentences have been modified as “…a substantial presence of moisture was observed over extensive areas encompassing the BoB, the AS, India, and surrounding regions including our sampling site. Figure 1 shows the elevated specific humidity levels averaged between 1000 hPa and 850 hPa throughout the duration of our study period….”
RC2: Figure 1: First, I am not sure if the plot (a) is so useful. Second, the quality of the figure needs to be improved, especially the plot (b). Third, I would let only the specific humidity in background colors (brown to green colormap for example) and remove the mean vertically integrated moisture flux to improve the readability of the figure. You could put a bigger dot in red for the location of the site.
Response: Following the reviewer’s comments, Figure 1a has been deleted in the revised manuscript and Figure 1b has been modified. The mean vertically integrated moisture flux has been removed and specific humidity has been plotted in color for more readability in the figure below.
RC2: Line 143-144: specific humidity at the surface?
Response: Figure caption has been modified into “Spatial distribution of specific humidity averaged over 1000 hPa to 850 hPa (in g/Kg) during the period of study. The yellow dot shows the location of Kathmandu.” in the revise manuscript.
RC2: Section 2.2: see my major comment 1.
Response: Modification has been made following the major comment 1.
RC2: Section 2.4: it should be merged with section 2.2.
Response: Following your suggestion, section 2.4 has been merged with section 2.2 in the revision.
RC2: Lines 205-206: … tropical cyclones (Jackisch et al., 2022). They have been used…
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revised manuscript.
RC2: Line 214: please add the reference of the ERA5 data (Herbash et al., 2020). See the reference section.
Response: Correct reference (Herbash et al., 2020) has been added in the revised manuscript.
RC2: Lines 222-227: I do not know how to use HYSPLIT, but it sounds the parameters were set just like this. The starting height for the moisture backward trajectories is set to 500 m above ground, and then you say that the average boundary layer height at Katmandu is about 620 m. So why not setting 620 m as an initial starting height and is it important? Please comment.
Response: Considering the variation in boundary layer height at Kathmandu during the study period, ranging from approximately 100 m to 1170 m, and with the majority of the data falling below 600 m, we set the initial starting height for the moisture backward trajectories to 500 m above ground. Furthermore, we did not find any significant differences between trajectories at 500 m and 620 m. Therefore, taking 500 m for an initial starting height seems appropriate to derive the moisture trajectories during the period of our study. The moisture backward trajectories plotted at 620 m as an initial starting height is shown below.
RC2: Figure 2: The figure needs to be improved. The background colors should be more transparent for a better readability. The contrast between time series of hourly and daily variations should be strengthened.
Response: The figure has been modified in the revise manuscript with more transparent background colors. Additionally, the vertical grid lines have been removed from the figure as pointed out by reviewer 1.
RC2: Line 235: replace “surrounding” by ‘before and after” (or something similar).
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Lines 255-257: Because there was not enough time for the d18O of water vapor to recover from the first cyclone.
Response: Correction has been made accordingly in the revision.
RC2: Section 3.2 and figure 4: For the moment, I do not see the interest of this section. Moreover, did you remove the long-term (i.e., synoptic) trend before doing the muti-daily mean? And an average over 4 days only is quite short anyway.
Response: Following both reviewers’ suggestions, we removed the diurnal variation described in section 3.2 in the revise manuscript.
RC2: From section 3.3: see major comment 2. Please reorganize the paper with clearly separated results and discussion sections. Or it can be by forcing mechanism.
Response: Many thanks for such constructive comments. The revised manuscript has been re-organized with separate result and discussion sections.
RC2: Lines 383-385: this part is interesting and should be highlighted.
Response: Thank you for your comment. The findings presented in lines 383-385 have been further explained within the context of isotopic response, specifically in relation to cyclone events and normal monsoon rain. For additional information, please refer to the response provided in major comment 3.
RC2: Line 398: what are the in situ measurements? Please add a reference and a description in the method section.
Response: We have mentioned all the in situ measurements in data and methods section and necessary reference has been added.
RC2: Line 471: our study site (Fig. S9).
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Lines 479-482: see major comment 1. Maybe the authors could make one section for each cyclone…
Response: We re-organized the manuscript and please refer to the response of major comment 1.
RC2: Lines 488-489: intensity weakened, both d18Ov and dDv started to increase again (Fig. 2) like due to…
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Line 497: during our period of study.
Response: This sentence has been corrected in the revision.
RC2: Line 601: may be visible…
Response: This sentence has been deleted in the revised manuscript.
RC2: Lines 609-612: see major comment 3. It’s also interesting to see how the isotopic content of upstream moisture, through transport and convection, influenced the isotopic content of precipitation at the site.
Response: We agree with the reviewer. Regrettably, we are unable to analyze the isotopic content of upstream moisture due to the lack of corresponding vapour and precipitation isotopic data for our sampling date. Additional details can be found in the response to major comment 3.
RC2: Figures S3 and S4: change the colormap for considering color vision deficiencies. Also, make the land coast thicker.
Response: After detailed revision of the manuscript, we have eliminated Figures S3-S4 from the supplementary material. All maps in the revised supplementary material now include the location of the sampling and the land coast is also thicker than before.
RC2: Figures S5 and S6: make the land coasts thicker.
Response: Correction has been made in the revision.
RC2: All maps in supplementary material: show the Kathmandu site.
Response: The Kathmandu site has been shown in all maps in the supplementary material.
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