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Abrupt excursion in water vapor isotopic variability during cold fronts at the Pointe Benedicte observatory in Amsterdam Island
Abstract. In order to complement the picture of the atmospheric water cycle in the Southern Ocean, we have continuously monitored water vapor isotopes since January 2020 in Amsterdam Island (37.7983 °S, 77.5378 °E) in the Indian Ocean. We present here the first 2-year-long water vapor isotopic record monitored on this site. We show that the vapor isotopic composition largely follows the vapor mixing ratio, as expected in marine boundary layers. However, we evidence 11 cold front periods of a few days where there is a strong loss of correlation between water vapor δ18O and mixing ratio. These periods are associated with abrupt negative excursions of water vapor δ18Ο, often occurring toward the end of precipitation events. Six of these events show a decrease in gaseous elemental mercury suggesting subsidence of air from higher altitude.
Accurately representing the water isotopic signal during these cold fronts is a real challenge for the atmospheric components of Earth System models equipped with water isotopes. While the ECHAM6-wiso model was able to reproduce most of the sharp negative water vapor δ18O excursions, the LMDZ-iso model at 2° (3°) resolution was only able to reproduce 7 (1) of the negative excursions. Based on a detail model-data comparison, we conclude that the most plausible explanations for such isotopic excursions are rain-vapor interactions associated with subsidence at the rear of a precipitation event.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1617', Anonymous Referee #1, 26 Sep 2023
The manuscript by Landais et al. presents an interesting 2-years dataset of continuous water vapour isotopic composition observations in Amsterdam Island. Such dataset is highly relevant for the atmospheric and water isotope community because it contributes filling the gap of water vapour observations in the southern Indian Ocean. The main output of manuscript is the explanation of atmospheric process driving some sharp depletion events of water vapor δ18O occurred within the 2-years time frame. Such events break down the strong correlation between δ18O and mixing ratio, which is typical of marine and land sites. The authors selected 11 events, for which they propose near-equilibrium rain-vapour interaction coupled to atmospheric subsidence following a precipitation event. The proposed mechanism is supported by other data (e.g. GEM for vertical subsidence) and from model simulations (isotope-enabled GCMs and back trajectories). The manuscript also highlights the importance of spatial (and temporal) resolution in iso-GCMs, providing evidence on how the short-lived δ18O negatives peaks are completely canceled out in a coarse model grid. To this end, I fully agree that such kind of atmospheric events are a good benchmark for testing iso-GCMs.
I would like to compliment the authors for having prepared such a well-written paper and I strongly recommend the paper for publication after a very few adjustments/corrections. In general, the interpretation and the discussion of results is sounding and easy to follow. All figures are clear (see my only comment on Fig.4).
I only have one comment/question about the interpretation of the results. Why d-excess has been (almost) left out of the discussion? The authors clearly state that during the depletion events both δ18Ov-q and δ18Ov-dexcess correlations break down. But how d-excess signal looks like during the event? If the d-excess doesn't change much, it would provide support to the hypothesis of rain-vapor interaction close to equilibrium than to rain-evaporation and to atmospheric subsidence, since evaporation of raindrops and free tropospheric air are associated with high d-excess.
Minor comments:
L149 Please rearrange number of gasses (4) and monitoring years (3).L187 STP conditions: 273.15 K
Figure 4 Including a legend and reducing the size of the caption could improve readability.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-1617-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-1617/egusphere-2023-1617-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1617', Farahnaz Khosrawi, 05 Oct 2023
Since I have trouble finding a second referee, I will provide a referee comment as editor of this manuscript. However, I will continue trying to find an additional referee so that there will be still two independent referee comments. My detailed comments on this manuscript are provided in the supplementary file.
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AC3: 'Reply on EC1', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-1617/egusphere-2023-1617-AC3-supplement.pdf
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AC3: 'Reply on EC1', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1617', Anonymous Referee #2, 30 Oct 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-1617/egusphere-2023-1617-RC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-1617/egusphere-2023-1617-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1617', Anonymous Referee #1, 26 Sep 2023
The manuscript by Landais et al. presents an interesting 2-years dataset of continuous water vapour isotopic composition observations in Amsterdam Island. Such dataset is highly relevant for the atmospheric and water isotope community because it contributes filling the gap of water vapour observations in the southern Indian Ocean. The main output of manuscript is the explanation of atmospheric process driving some sharp depletion events of water vapor δ18O occurred within the 2-years time frame. Such events break down the strong correlation between δ18O and mixing ratio, which is typical of marine and land sites. The authors selected 11 events, for which they propose near-equilibrium rain-vapour interaction coupled to atmospheric subsidence following a precipitation event. The proposed mechanism is supported by other data (e.g. GEM for vertical subsidence) and from model simulations (isotope-enabled GCMs and back trajectories). The manuscript also highlights the importance of spatial (and temporal) resolution in iso-GCMs, providing evidence on how the short-lived δ18O negatives peaks are completely canceled out in a coarse model grid. To this end, I fully agree that such kind of atmospheric events are a good benchmark for testing iso-GCMs.
I would like to compliment the authors for having prepared such a well-written paper and I strongly recommend the paper for publication after a very few adjustments/corrections. In general, the interpretation and the discussion of results is sounding and easy to follow. All figures are clear (see my only comment on Fig.4).
I only have one comment/question about the interpretation of the results. Why d-excess has been (almost) left out of the discussion? The authors clearly state that during the depletion events both δ18Ov-q and δ18Ov-dexcess correlations break down. But how d-excess signal looks like during the event? If the d-excess doesn't change much, it would provide support to the hypothesis of rain-vapor interaction close to equilibrium than to rain-evaporation and to atmospheric subsidence, since evaporation of raindrops and free tropospheric air are associated with high d-excess.
Minor comments:
L149 Please rearrange number of gasses (4) and monitoring years (3).L187 STP conditions: 273.15 K
Figure 4 Including a legend and reducing the size of the caption could improve readability.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-1617-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-1617/egusphere-2023-1617-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1617', Farahnaz Khosrawi, 05 Oct 2023
Since I have trouble finding a second referee, I will provide a referee comment as editor of this manuscript. However, I will continue trying to find an additional referee so that there will be still two independent referee comments. My detailed comments on this manuscript are provided in the supplementary file.
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AC3: 'Reply on EC1', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-1617/egusphere-2023-1617-AC3-supplement.pdf
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AC3: 'Reply on EC1', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1617', Anonymous Referee #2, 30 Oct 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-1617/egusphere-2023-1617-RC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2023/egusphere-2023-1617/egusphere-2023-1617-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Amaelle Landais, 07 Dec 2023
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