The role of dust sources in the Tibetan Plateau may be Underestimated: A high-resolution simulation study of regional differences in dust characteristics in the Tibetan Plateau

Zhang, Yunshu; Liang, Jiening; Zhang, Zhida; Li, Bentao; Zhang, Haotian; Cao, Xianjie; Tian, Pengfei; Zhang, Lei

doi:https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776

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The role of dust sources in the Tibetan Plateau may be Underestimated: A high-resolution simulation study of regional differences in dust characteristics in the Tibetan Plateau

Yunshu Zhang, Jiening Liang, Zhida Zhang, Bentao Li, Haotian Zhang, Xianjie Cao, Pengfei Tian, and Lei Zhang

Abstract. Because of the unique geographical location of the Tibetan Plateau and its important role in global climate change, aerosol variability over the plateau has been of wide interest to the academic community. Most studies have focused on the influence of external aerosols; however, a few studies have been conducted on dust aerosols within the plateau. In this study, the plateau was divided into three regions, west, south, and north based on surface vegetation and climatic characteristics, and the Weather Research and Forecasting model with Chemistry was used to simulate the Tibetan Plateau from 2004 to 2006 to quantify the spatial and temporal variability of dust within the plateau with high resolution. The dust sources of the plateau are located in the northern part of the Qiangtang Plateau, the Yarlung Tsangpo River basin, the Namucuo and Lhasa regions, the Qaidam Basin, the source areas of the Yellow and Yangtze Rivers, and the Qinghai Lake and its surrounding areas. Owing to windy weather and arid soil conditions, the dust emissions of the three regions reached 11.00 × 10⁷ (west), 3.30 × 10⁷ (south) and 4.50 × 10⁷ (north) μg·m^-2, during winter, and remained at a low level from May to October. Although the annual variation in dust emissions was relatively consistent across the three regions, there were substantial differences in dust loading, with almost no dust present in the atmosphere in the south, a peak dust loading of 94.00 × 10⁵ μg·m^-2 in January in the west, and a bimodal structure in the north with peaks in April and October and a maximum value of 13.00 × 10¹⁰ μg·m^-2, which was primarily influenced by the temperature 2 m above the ground. In summer 10 % of the dust that starts in the interior of the plateau can be transported to the upper troposphere (above 8 km).

Received: 10 Aug 2022 – Discussion started: 05 Oct 2022

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Yunshu Zhang, Jiening Liang, Zhida Zhang, Bentao Li, Haotian Zhang, Xianjie Cao, Pengfei Tian, and Lei Zhang

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'Comment on egusphere-2022-776', Anonymous Referee #2, 20 Oct 2022
This manuscript reports results of WRF model simulation to quantify the spatial and temporal variability of dust emissions, dust loading, and their characteristics within the Tibetan Plateau during 2004-2006. The authors divide the main body of the Tibetan Plateau into three regions, and argue that the results of the simulations about dust activity were consistent with the reanalysis data and ground observations.

Overall, simulation of winter dust on the Tibetan Plateau is with great importance. However, this manuscript has some shortages, and some of the implications and discussions in the manuscript are not appropriate. I have a number of comments and concerns listed below, and the authors should make Major revisions of this manuscript before it can be potential published on ACPD.

Main comments

The current definition of the Tibetan Plateau is confusing and not appropriate. In common sense, the Tibetan Plateau is the region higher than 2500 or 3000m above sea level. The western of the Sichuan Basin, the western of the Loess Plateau, the eastern of the Tarim Basin and other regions shown in Fig. 1 cannot be incorporate into the Tibetan Plateau. Please read the definition by Yao et al., 2012, Nature Climate Change (DOI: 10.1038/NCLIMATE1580) and Liu et al., 2022, Global and Planetary Change (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.gloplacha.2022.103893).

The division of the three regions on the Tibetan Plateau is crude. The authors mentioned that the resolution of WRF model was 6 km, it can be more precise for division of those three regions. The dust sources of the plateau are located in the northern part of the Qiangtang Plateau, the Yarlung Tsangpo River basin, the Namucuo and Lhasa regions, the Qaidam Basin, the source areas of the Yellow and Yangtze Rivers, and the Qinghai Lake and its surrounding areas. Therefore, I strongly suggest the authors use Qiangtang Plateau (between the Kunlun Mountains and Gangdisi Mountains) as the western Tibetan Plateau, north of the Tanggula Mountains (roughly around 32-33°N) as the Northern Tibetan Plateau, and south of the Gangdisi Mountains-Tanggula Mountains as the Southern Tibetan Plateau, on the basis of the definition of the Tibetan Plateau (higher than 3000m or 2500 m).

The authors only provide results of three years during 2004-2006. However, a climate pattern (30 years, such as 1991-2020) can provide more confident results and reliable conclusions.

The dust emission rate data on the Tibetan Plateau throughout the manuscript should be checked carefully. Previous studies reported that dust emission rate in the Taklimakan desert was about 0.38 ton/ha yr (equals to 38 g/m²), in the Central gobi-desert is about 0.24 ton/ha yr (equals to 24 g/m²) (see Xuan et al., 2002, Atmospheric Environment, https://doi.org/10.1016/S1352-2310(02)00585-X). In comparison, the authors report dust emission rates of about 11.00 × 10⁷μg·m^-2 (equals to 110 g/m²) in the west, 3.30 × 10⁷μg·m^-2 (equals to 33 g/m²) in the south and 4.5 × 10⁷ (equals to 45 g/m²) in the north during winter on the Tibetan Plateau, in this work. I am not sure whether dust emission rate on the Tibetan Plateau can be much higher than the Taklimakan desert and Go-bi desert?

In the abstract, “few studies have been conducted on dust aerosols within the plateau”, and Line 80-83, “there are few studies on dust within the plateau, and conclusions regarding the distribution of dust sources within the plateau, the spatial and temporal variability of dust initiation, and the contribution of dust to the air column above the TP are not clear”. As far as I know, there are many studies on dust aerosols in the TP. The sentences are too absolute. For example, Liu et al., ACP 2008; Kang et al., AE 2016; Mao et al., SCIENCE CHINA Earth Sciences 2013; Mao et al., AE 2019; Yuan et al., JC 2019, etc. Mao et al., did a lot of work on dust using WRF-Chem in the TP. What are the differences between your manuscript and Mao’s work? The authors should highlight your characteristics and differences relative to previous studies. In addition, please add the dynamic mechanism related to your results in the abstract.

If the authors add the model evaluation of AOD between the results of WRF and MODIS or MISR, cross sections of dust extinction coefficient between the results of WRF and CALIPSO, the results will be more reliable.

The language of this manuscript needs editing by a native speaker.

Other comments

Line 36, the definition of the Tibetan Plateau

Line 45, Batangilin Desert? Is it Badanjilin Desert/ Badain Jaran Desert?

Line 53, the unit of 6.6G is “g” or “ton”?

Lines 79-82, the inner dust sources on the Tibetan Plateau are clear, please read Wu et al., 2013, Quaternary Science Reviews (http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.quascirev.2012.10.003).

Line 93, similar to former major concern, why only choose 2004-2006?

Lines 101-102, I strongly suggest the authors provide a map of sand dunes and deserted land on the Tibetan Plateau in the manuscript or in the supporting information.

Lines 102-115, the climate patterns are the basis for the division of the three regions on the Tibetan Plateau. The authors should read some most recent papers about the climate modes on the Tibetan Plateau, redefine the three regions and rewrite this paragraph.

Fig 1. The north and south are wrongly labeled, the authors should better add the variation of meteorological parameters such as temperature and precipitation of these three regions.

Line 206, Gondola Mountains?

Lines 236-236, are you sure that the modern East Asian summer monsoon can reach the Qaidam Basin and cause heavy rainfall? If yes, please cite the suitable references. To our knowledge, the maximum of the East Asian summer monsoon is around Lenglongling in the eastern Qilian Mountains.

Lines 271, “the dust in the north stayed in the atmosphere for a long period of time”, does this mean the potential effects of dust from the Tarim basin?

Lines 289-291, the western Tibetan Plateau is mainly the Qiangtang Basin, the landscape consists planation surface.

Lines 304-305, the height 8 km above sea level reaches the middle-upper troposphere, does this meant the height of the boundary layer over the Tibetan Plateau was about 3-4 km above the ground level?

Please add the linkages of the meteorological and other dataset used in this paper in the Acknowledgement section.

References should be updated. For instance, line 489 “” is not correct.

Please check all the reference format. Like in line 55, 61, “the results of Wang(Wang et al., 2021)” , “Hu(Hu et al., 2020)”, not correct.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-RC1
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Zhang Yunshu, 21 Oct 2022
  
  Thank you very much for your suggestion. In particular, many references are provided that allows me to verify the research results and modify next steps of my research plan. We have taken all of the specific comments into account in the revised version of the manuscript. Please see the detailed response marked blue in my supplement.
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-AC1
- AC3: 'Reply on RC1', Zhang Yunshu, 14 Nov 2022
  
  Thank you for your comments again. And I am very sorry that the modified content in the manuscript was not included in the first uploaded supplement, I have uploaded it again, please check the reply of this version! I am very sorry for the inconvenience brought to your work. Best wishes!
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-AC3
RC2:
'Comment on egusphere-2022-776', Anonymous Referee #1, 26 Oct 2022

The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-776/egusphere-2022-776-RC2-supplement.pdf

Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-RC2
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Zhang Yunshu, 14 Nov 2022
  
  Thank you for you comments, the reply on your comments and in-text changes, please see the supplement uploaded together. Thank you again!
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-AC2

Status: closed

RC1:
'Comment on egusphere-2022-776', Anonymous Referee #2, 20 Oct 2022
This manuscript reports results of WRF model simulation to quantify the spatial and temporal variability of dust emissions, dust loading, and their characteristics within the Tibetan Plateau during 2004-2006. The authors divide the main body of the Tibetan Plateau into three regions, and argue that the results of the simulations about dust activity were consistent with the reanalysis data and ground observations.

Overall, simulation of winter dust on the Tibetan Plateau is with great importance. However, this manuscript has some shortages, and some of the implications and discussions in the manuscript are not appropriate. I have a number of comments and concerns listed below, and the authors should make Major revisions of this manuscript before it can be potential published on ACPD.

Main comments

The current definition of the Tibetan Plateau is confusing and not appropriate. In common sense, the Tibetan Plateau is the region higher than 2500 or 3000m above sea level. The western of the Sichuan Basin, the western of the Loess Plateau, the eastern of the Tarim Basin and other regions shown in Fig. 1 cannot be incorporate into the Tibetan Plateau. Please read the definition by Yao et al., 2012, Nature Climate Change (DOI: 10.1038/NCLIMATE1580) and Liu et al., 2022, Global and Planetary Change (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.gloplacha.2022.103893).

The division of the three regions on the Tibetan Plateau is crude. The authors mentioned that the resolution of WRF model was 6 km, it can be more precise for division of those three regions. The dust sources of the plateau are located in the northern part of the Qiangtang Plateau, the Yarlung Tsangpo River basin, the Namucuo and Lhasa regions, the Qaidam Basin, the source areas of the Yellow and Yangtze Rivers, and the Qinghai Lake and its surrounding areas. Therefore, I strongly suggest the authors use Qiangtang Plateau (between the Kunlun Mountains and Gangdisi Mountains) as the western Tibetan Plateau, north of the Tanggula Mountains (roughly around 32-33°N) as the Northern Tibetan Plateau, and south of the Gangdisi Mountains-Tanggula Mountains as the Southern Tibetan Plateau, on the basis of the definition of the Tibetan Plateau (higher than 3000m or 2500 m).

The authors only provide results of three years during 2004-2006. However, a climate pattern (30 years, such as 1991-2020) can provide more confident results and reliable conclusions.

The dust emission rate data on the Tibetan Plateau throughout the manuscript should be checked carefully. Previous studies reported that dust emission rate in the Taklimakan desert was about 0.38 ton/ha yr (equals to 38 g/m²), in the Central gobi-desert is about 0.24 ton/ha yr (equals to 24 g/m²) (see Xuan et al., 2002, Atmospheric Environment, https://doi.org/10.1016/S1352-2310(02)00585-X). In comparison, the authors report dust emission rates of about 11.00 × 10⁷μg·m^-2 (equals to 110 g/m²) in the west, 3.30 × 10⁷μg·m^-2 (equals to 33 g/m²) in the south and 4.5 × 10⁷ (equals to 45 g/m²) in the north during winter on the Tibetan Plateau, in this work. I am not sure whether dust emission rate on the Tibetan Plateau can be much higher than the Taklimakan desert and Go-bi desert?

In the abstract, “few studies have been conducted on dust aerosols within the plateau”, and Line 80-83, “there are few studies on dust within the plateau, and conclusions regarding the distribution of dust sources within the plateau, the spatial and temporal variability of dust initiation, and the contribution of dust to the air column above the TP are not clear”. As far as I know, there are many studies on dust aerosols in the TP. The sentences are too absolute. For example, Liu et al., ACP 2008; Kang et al., AE 2016; Mao et al., SCIENCE CHINA Earth Sciences 2013; Mao et al., AE 2019; Yuan et al., JC 2019, etc. Mao et al., did a lot of work on dust using WRF-Chem in the TP. What are the differences between your manuscript and Mao’s work? The authors should highlight your characteristics and differences relative to previous studies. In addition, please add the dynamic mechanism related to your results in the abstract.

If the authors add the model evaluation of AOD between the results of WRF and MODIS or MISR, cross sections of dust extinction coefficient between the results of WRF and CALIPSO, the results will be more reliable.

The language of this manuscript needs editing by a native speaker.

Other comments

Line 36, the definition of the Tibetan Plateau

Line 45, Batangilin Desert? Is it Badanjilin Desert/ Badain Jaran Desert?

Line 53, the unit of 6.6G is “g” or “ton”?

Lines 79-82, the inner dust sources on the Tibetan Plateau are clear, please read Wu et al., 2013, Quaternary Science Reviews (http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.quascirev.2012.10.003).

Line 93, similar to former major concern, why only choose 2004-2006?

Lines 101-102, I strongly suggest the authors provide a map of sand dunes and deserted land on the Tibetan Plateau in the manuscript or in the supporting information.

Lines 102-115, the climate patterns are the basis for the division of the three regions on the Tibetan Plateau. The authors should read some most recent papers about the climate modes on the Tibetan Plateau, redefine the three regions and rewrite this paragraph.

Fig 1. The north and south are wrongly labeled, the authors should better add the variation of meteorological parameters such as temperature and precipitation of these three regions.

Line 206, Gondola Mountains?

Lines 236-236, are you sure that the modern East Asian summer monsoon can reach the Qaidam Basin and cause heavy rainfall? If yes, please cite the suitable references. To our knowledge, the maximum of the East Asian summer monsoon is around Lenglongling in the eastern Qilian Mountains.

Lines 271, “the dust in the north stayed in the atmosphere for a long period of time”, does this mean the potential effects of dust from the Tarim basin?

Lines 289-291, the western Tibetan Plateau is mainly the Qiangtang Basin, the landscape consists planation surface.

Lines 304-305, the height 8 km above sea level reaches the middle-upper troposphere, does this meant the height of the boundary layer over the Tibetan Plateau was about 3-4 km above the ground level?

Please add the linkages of the meteorological and other dataset used in this paper in the Acknowledgement section.

References should be updated. For instance, line 489 “” is not correct.

Please check all the reference format. Like in line 55, 61, “the results of Wang(Wang et al., 2021)” , “Hu(Hu et al., 2020)”, not correct.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-RC1
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Zhang Yunshu, 21 Oct 2022
  
  Thank you very much for your suggestion. In particular, many references are provided that allows me to verify the research results and modify next steps of my research plan. We have taken all of the specific comments into account in the revised version of the manuscript. Please see the detailed response marked blue in my supplement.
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-AC1
- AC3: 'Reply on RC1', Zhang Yunshu, 14 Nov 2022
  
  Thank you for your comments again. And I am very sorry that the modified content in the manuscript was not included in the first uploaded supplement, I have uploaded it again, please check the reply of this version! I am very sorry for the inconvenience brought to your work. Best wishes!
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-AC3
RC2:
'Comment on egusphere-2022-776', Anonymous Referee #1, 26 Oct 2022

The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-776/egusphere-2022-776-RC2-supplement.pdf

Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-RC2
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Zhang Yunshu, 14 Nov 2022
  
  Thank you for you comments, the reply on your comments and in-text changes, please see the supplement uploaded together. Thank you again!
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-776-AC2

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This paper used the WRF-Chem model to simulate different climatic regions of the Tibetan Plateau with finer resolution from 2004 to 2006 and fond that the dust sources are mainly concentrated in the western part of the plateau, while the dust loading of the northern part is the highest. This suggests that dust in the western area can rapidly fall back to the ground after being blown up, while dust in the north can stay in the atmosphere for a long time. That would be useful to future research.


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