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Reliability of flood marks and practical relevance for flood hazard assessment in south-west Germany
Abstract. Flood marks are rarely utilized in hazard assessment, mainly because of a lack in data availability, accessibility, and mistrust in their reliability. Challenging these common assumptions, we present an approach for evaluation and practical utilization of flood marks by the example of the Kinzig river, a Rhine tributary from the Black Forest with a history of severe floods. We combined written documents on flood marks with field mapping at three study sites and collected 89 marks – about 50 % of them still preserved – which refer to ≥ 15 large floods between 1824 and 1991. The inclusion of a detailed historical mark survey allowed to identify and assess changes over time: they extend from small (+/- 15 cm) imprecisions in mark heights to considerable uncertainties in position, height, and displayed date for some modified marks. Plausibility checks with further data nevertheless demonstrated an overall good consistency. We then juxtaposed these marks with the current, modeled flood hazard maps. A wide agreement is apparent, in that the large majority of the marks are situated at probable heights and within the modeled flooding area associated with extreme floods. For the few exceptions, we see plausible and historically sound reasons in changed local hydraulic conditions by flood protection walls, exceptional processes during a massive ice jam, and possibly also a local underestimation of hazard along Kinzig river tributaries. Overall, this study highlights (1) the broad availability of flood mark data, both on a larger spatial scale and with regard to already vanished marks, and (2) the significance of the marks, verified by further data; and (3) it also demonstrates the possibility of a straightforward inclusion in hazard assessment. We thus encourage the systematic collection, maintenance, and integration of flood marks in a responsible risk management, not least regarding their value in the wider context of risk awareness and memory.
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-223', Neil Macdonald, 02 Jun 2022
I really enjoyed reviewing this paper, it provides an excellent examination on the precision, accuracy and utility of using historical flood marks within flood risk analysis. It presents a detailed and well considered analysis of multiple flood marks across three communities within a single catchment in SW Germany. It demonstrates how such information can be embedded within and used to support and question conventional flood risk assessments.
I have provided an annotated copy of the manuscript with comments, minor amendments and thoughts, I hope that the authors find this helpful in making their revisions. I only have one substantive point that I feel the authors need to address.
The authors identify the issue of local base changes in surface level in determining local flood mark heights, I feel they need to provide a couple of sentences/a paragraph detailing how they overcame the risk of such changes in their site assessments and also within their analysis of the records. Did they attempt to assess changes in ground level at sites, was this assessed when considering changes in level over time, is there the potential to make some statement about how the relative levels may reduce over time as urban surfaces build up/rates of urban surface change? Even if they are unable to account for this some discussion would be beneficial within the methods section.
If you have any questions in relation to the anotated comments, please get in touch.
Neil Macdonald, University of Liverpool
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Annette Sophie Bösmeier, 30 Jul 2022
Dear Neil Macdonald,
we appreciate your helpful comments and your thorough proofreading of our article. We are also happy about your positive feedback particularly regarding the design and implementation of our study.
We thank you also for your notes provided in the supplement. We included the corrections and took your comments into account.
Regarding your main question on the influence of urban surface change on our study, we did not have a possibility of quantifying such change rates at the three study sites. We are going to include a statement in the methods section and take the issue up again in the discussion section at appropriate places. It is likely that level changes took place to a certain extent between the flood mark survey in the early 20th century and the survey which has been part of this study. These changes may be reflected in the small differences between historically documented and current flood mark heights, as mentioned e.g. in line 425. However, base changes can have happened also prior to the historical mark survey. We are going to point out this uncertainty in the discussion section.
We also want to answer your questions provided by the supplement:
- Line 199: “It would be interesting to note here, or later possibly, whether any of the flood marks were informal compared to formal records.”
See the comment after the next one.
- Line 210: “how many do you estimate had been lost?”
This is illustrated in Sec. 4.1.3.
- Line 277: “I think this is an important point, can you discern the proportion that are informal (painted) rather than formal (engraved). The characterization is itself assumptive, but is useful in thinking about the quality and accuracy of the mark. I have been looking at this, as part of the tools used in communicating risk and how knowledge can fade with time.”
In our study area, it is difficult to distinguish between ‘formal’ and ‘informal’ flood marks. We do not have any information on the installation of the marks (compare lines 448–454). We assume that a large part of the marks were installed according to official stipulations since many of them show similar appearances, however we are not aware of sources verifying this assumption. Actually, we doubt that the type of a flood mark (painted or engraved) could be a reliable decisive criterion to show the formal or informal character of marks in our study: nearly all collected marks are engraved but most of them are painted as well. Moreover, some older marks have been repainted and, due to weathering, it is not always clear whether or not they initially also had been engraved. In lines 275–277, we mentioned type and appearance of the collected marks. We could add a few sentences in the discussion, referring to the question, whether the appearance of a flood mark can provide information on its accuracy and quality (we believe, in our study this is rather difficult, also compare line 353–355).
- Figure 4: “A good figure, but consider how it may be viewed by those that are colour blind.”
Thank you for the link. We have tested the figure and it appears to be fine.
- Line 324: “I think this is really interesting, anecdotally from a UK perspective I believe that it is the other way round, with most of the flood marks removed/lost as people want to sell properties […]”
This is indeed an interesting point. Observations similar to yours in the UK also have been reported from France, and we also know of places in the Elz catchment, which is directly south of our study catchment, where flood marks at houses have been removed even though it is forbidden by law. Fortunately, in the Kinzig valley, a different kind of mindset appears to prevail – at least locally. Possibly, it might be related to the long history of recurring floods and the strong dependence on the river with regards to timber rafting, which is a particularity of the Kinzig area. Finally, the reason for flood marks disappearing from bridges may be the comparably small size of (historical) bridges and their repeated complete destruction during large floods of the past.
- Line 342: “Could you add a sentence explaining how you came to this sum, is it just a pragmatic estimate of likely difference, or generated from some specific example or reasoning?”
This range of tolerance was derived from the (maximum positive or negative) height deviations between historically recorded and still preserved flood marks, excluding preserved marks that had been noticeably relocated or significantly modified compared to their original status (compare Fig. 3), as described in lines 342–352. Also excluded were four historically documented marks at a house corner in Schiltach (S24–27), which were found to be at similar lower heights (-0.25 to -0.325 m) nowadays. Yet these data have not been included in the range of tolerance: despite being in a good condition, the marks might have been reattached incorrectly as for three marks, either inconsistencies in mark inscription or mark position relative to the notch or relative to the side of the building (where the mark was positioned) were detected. In contrast to that, Figure 5 c) shows two marks (W28 and S15) with a very small height difference between the historical and the current survey. These marks did not appear modified or relocated and were included in the estimation of a range of tolerance. To clarify this issue, we are going to add a suitable statement to the manuscript. We also would like to change the legend entry ‘Lost mark’ in Fig. 5c) to ‘Documented mark’ realizing that ‘lost’ does not apply to the marks W28 and S15.
- Line 343: “also potential for ground level to change if the street has been reflagged/resurfaced?”
See comment to line 354.
- Line 354: “Could this be a change in footpath/road/ground surface height rather than flood mark height. I have flood marks in York in the Merchant Adventurers Hall that are now below street level from the 1830s.”
Kerbs in Germany are normally between 5 and 12 cm high, high kerbs can amount to 15 cm. Thus, the construction or renewal of a footpath during the 20ths century (after the historical flood marks survey) could easily have led to a small in increase or decrease of the absolute flood mark height relative to the ground level. We therefore assume that a change in footpath height could be a possible explanation for the small height differences that we have found for a couple of preserved marks, as explained in the previous comment to line 342. The significant height change of the marks mentioned in line 354 might have been caused by relocation, as explained above, but also a significant change of the base level cannot be excluded.
- Line 358: “You could consider adding a figure here with all of the flood marks presented and the relative difference based on current surveys. Is there a consistent reduction in level, or are some higher than previous recorded? If the difference is consistently a reduction in height then this might suggest that the relative height change is derived from an increase in street/surface level rather than a reduction in flood mark height. So far you have not discussed this - it might also help explain why the difference is greatest for older marks.”
We totally agree with you. It would be helpful to discuss this issue in an additional short paragraph. We could also add an additional figure to be attached to Fig. 5 (Fig. 5 d)) displaying all mark heights of historically documented and still preserved marks together with the local flooding depths of the current flood hazard maps. Regarding your question on the directionality of the relative differences, such a pattern is not visible. Marks that have not been altered significantly may be a little higher or a little lower today, regardless of whether they refer to e.g. the 1824 or the 1882 flood event. The few marks that have been subject to significant height changes and relocation (lines 347–350) are at lower positions nowadays but this may be a coincidence as the marks rather appear to have been relocated (compare Fig. 3, and the comment above).
We hope that we could adequately clarify the issues that you have brought forward. We would be happy to receive a short reply indicating which of our suggestions you would support. Thank you again for investing your time in our manuscript.
Best regards,
A.S. Bösmeier, I. Himmerlsbach, and S. Seeger
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-223-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Annette Sophie Bösmeier, 30 Jul 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-223', Anonymous Referee #2, 24 Jun 2022
It is a very well written article about the utility of using historical flood marks. It presents a detailed and well considered analysis of flood marks across three sites within a single catchment. It shows how such information for the case study can be useful to support flood risk assessments.
Before the final publication, I believe the manuscript should be subjected to minor revisions, in particular I only have two substantive points that I feel the authors need to address.
- Explain better how the flood marks can add substantial value to an integrated flood risk assessment. Can authors add some examples on how the flood marks can be adopted for flood risk assessment (e.g., validate total extension, extrapolate depth information, etc.)?
- Based on the authors knowledge, add a comment on the replicability of this study in another context outside of selected basin in SW Germany;
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-223-RC2 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Annette Sophie Bösmeier, 14 Jul 2022
Dear Referee,
we would first like to thank you a lot for your support in reviewing our article and giving appreciative and valuable comments as well as raising relevant questions.
Regarding your first question on possibilities and examples of utilizing flood marks as a substantial additional value to an integrated flood risk management, we would like to elaborate on some ideas. An integrated flood risk management, as described for instance by Merz et al. (2011), extends from a broad range of preventive measures to diverse coping strategies in the case of a flood event. In the submitted article, we have mentioned some examples illustrating the potential benefit from flood marks as we believe that the verification, preservation and maintenance of existing flood marks and, if appropriate, the installation of new marks can contribute to a number of preventive measures (lines 588–589).
On the one hand, plausible flood marks may be included in flood hazard analysis in various ways. With regards to the development of a basis for planning or for technical flood protection, flood mark positions and heights may be considered indications of worst-case scenarios and could be used to check the extent of the HQextreme in hydrological and hydraulic modelling (lines 493–496, 534–538, 583–584, and 594–596). We also recommend to check for systematic discrepancies between flood mark positions and heights and the current flood hazard maps. If apparent, understanding the origin of such discrepancies might help to improve process understanding and enhance modelling of extreme events (lines 591–592). Indicating possible flood-prone areas (by position, height and number of different marks and / or associated flood events), marks may also represent additional criteria helping decision-makers to decide upon building development in these areas or flood-adapted construction. This point is not yet mentioned in the article and could be added.
On the other hand, clearly visible flood marks in public space contribute to the information on possible flood extents, which in turn may increase the awareness towards flood risk among the general public and incite interest in the topic. Thereby, flood marks can stimulate behavioral precautions, information provision, and (personal) risk prevention. Moreover, increased awareness of flood risk may contribute to an enhancement of emergency procedures. Since flood marks can survive for centuries, they also play an important role in keeping the society´s sensitivity towards flood risk alive and establishing a long-term risk memory (lines 75–81, 550–555, and 588–589).
We have mentioned these ideas in greater or lesser detail in different parts of the submitted paper, such as in the introduction, the discussion, and the conclusion (e.g. lines 588–596). We would suggest to include a short additional paragraph in the discussion (5.2 Significance for present flood risk management) which focusses on examples illustrating the value of flood marks for an integrated flood risk management, if you agree.
Your second question refers to the replicability of this study in other catchments or study sites than the examined sites in the Kinzig catchment, Southwest Germany. Here, we are confident that many other sites provide the basis for repeating this study or some of its parts, which include the collection of flood marks, flood marks information, and flood data, the assessment of plausibility and preservation of the marks, and the comparison between flood marks and flood hazard maps (lines 584–586).
Flood marks have already been documented for many areas in Europe, as we mentioned in the discussion (lines 539–546). The abundance of marks and detailedness of flood mark information may strongly vary, but this does not principally preclude a similar study. For instance, historical information on the original condition of flood marks may rarely be as detailed as provided by the “Centralbureau für Meteorologie und Hydrographie im Großherzogthum Baden”. However, in the case of extreme floods of the past few centuries, qualitative information is usually available in one form or another, e.g. as reports on the flood propagation, extent or damages, or also as pictures of the water level. Such information can also help to rate the plausibility of collected flood marks and possibly discover strongly modified or moved marks. Thereby, the overall uncertainty involved in flood mark information of a specific area could be assessed. At this point, it would be interesting to examine regional similarities or differences and their potential reasons. With regard to the last part of our study, the juxtaposition of flood marks and current flood hazard maps, we also do not see any basic obstacles for other study sites. Since flood hazard maps had to be prepared by member states according to the European Floods Directive (2007/60/EC), they are available on a large scale.
We hope that we could adequately clarify both issues that you have brought forward and would be happy to receive a short reply.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-223-AC1
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-223', Neil Macdonald, 02 Jun 2022
I really enjoyed reviewing this paper, it provides an excellent examination on the precision, accuracy and utility of using historical flood marks within flood risk analysis. It presents a detailed and well considered analysis of multiple flood marks across three communities within a single catchment in SW Germany. It demonstrates how such information can be embedded within and used to support and question conventional flood risk assessments.
I have provided an annotated copy of the manuscript with comments, minor amendments and thoughts, I hope that the authors find this helpful in making their revisions. I only have one substantive point that I feel the authors need to address.
The authors identify the issue of local base changes in surface level in determining local flood mark heights, I feel they need to provide a couple of sentences/a paragraph detailing how they overcame the risk of such changes in their site assessments and also within their analysis of the records. Did they attempt to assess changes in ground level at sites, was this assessed when considering changes in level over time, is there the potential to make some statement about how the relative levels may reduce over time as urban surfaces build up/rates of urban surface change? Even if they are unable to account for this some discussion would be beneficial within the methods section.
If you have any questions in relation to the anotated comments, please get in touch.
Neil Macdonald, University of Liverpool
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Annette Sophie Bösmeier, 30 Jul 2022
Dear Neil Macdonald,
we appreciate your helpful comments and your thorough proofreading of our article. We are also happy about your positive feedback particularly regarding the design and implementation of our study.
We thank you also for your notes provided in the supplement. We included the corrections and took your comments into account.
Regarding your main question on the influence of urban surface change on our study, we did not have a possibility of quantifying such change rates at the three study sites. We are going to include a statement in the methods section and take the issue up again in the discussion section at appropriate places. It is likely that level changes took place to a certain extent between the flood mark survey in the early 20th century and the survey which has been part of this study. These changes may be reflected in the small differences between historically documented and current flood mark heights, as mentioned e.g. in line 425. However, base changes can have happened also prior to the historical mark survey. We are going to point out this uncertainty in the discussion section.
We also want to answer your questions provided by the supplement:
- Line 199: “It would be interesting to note here, or later possibly, whether any of the flood marks were informal compared to formal records.”
See the comment after the next one.
- Line 210: “how many do you estimate had been lost?”
This is illustrated in Sec. 4.1.3.
- Line 277: “I think this is an important point, can you discern the proportion that are informal (painted) rather than formal (engraved). The characterization is itself assumptive, but is useful in thinking about the quality and accuracy of the mark. I have been looking at this, as part of the tools used in communicating risk and how knowledge can fade with time.”
In our study area, it is difficult to distinguish between ‘formal’ and ‘informal’ flood marks. We do not have any information on the installation of the marks (compare lines 448–454). We assume that a large part of the marks were installed according to official stipulations since many of them show similar appearances, however we are not aware of sources verifying this assumption. Actually, we doubt that the type of a flood mark (painted or engraved) could be a reliable decisive criterion to show the formal or informal character of marks in our study: nearly all collected marks are engraved but most of them are painted as well. Moreover, some older marks have been repainted and, due to weathering, it is not always clear whether or not they initially also had been engraved. In lines 275–277, we mentioned type and appearance of the collected marks. We could add a few sentences in the discussion, referring to the question, whether the appearance of a flood mark can provide information on its accuracy and quality (we believe, in our study this is rather difficult, also compare line 353–355).
- Figure 4: “A good figure, but consider how it may be viewed by those that are colour blind.”
Thank you for the link. We have tested the figure and it appears to be fine.
- Line 324: “I think this is really interesting, anecdotally from a UK perspective I believe that it is the other way round, with most of the flood marks removed/lost as people want to sell properties […]”
This is indeed an interesting point. Observations similar to yours in the UK also have been reported from France, and we also know of places in the Elz catchment, which is directly south of our study catchment, where flood marks at houses have been removed even though it is forbidden by law. Fortunately, in the Kinzig valley, a different kind of mindset appears to prevail – at least locally. Possibly, it might be related to the long history of recurring floods and the strong dependence on the river with regards to timber rafting, which is a particularity of the Kinzig area. Finally, the reason for flood marks disappearing from bridges may be the comparably small size of (historical) bridges and their repeated complete destruction during large floods of the past.
- Line 342: “Could you add a sentence explaining how you came to this sum, is it just a pragmatic estimate of likely difference, or generated from some specific example or reasoning?”
This range of tolerance was derived from the (maximum positive or negative) height deviations between historically recorded and still preserved flood marks, excluding preserved marks that had been noticeably relocated or significantly modified compared to their original status (compare Fig. 3), as described in lines 342–352. Also excluded were four historically documented marks at a house corner in Schiltach (S24–27), which were found to be at similar lower heights (-0.25 to -0.325 m) nowadays. Yet these data have not been included in the range of tolerance: despite being in a good condition, the marks might have been reattached incorrectly as for three marks, either inconsistencies in mark inscription or mark position relative to the notch or relative to the side of the building (where the mark was positioned) were detected. In contrast to that, Figure 5 c) shows two marks (W28 and S15) with a very small height difference between the historical and the current survey. These marks did not appear modified or relocated and were included in the estimation of a range of tolerance. To clarify this issue, we are going to add a suitable statement to the manuscript. We also would like to change the legend entry ‘Lost mark’ in Fig. 5c) to ‘Documented mark’ realizing that ‘lost’ does not apply to the marks W28 and S15.
- Line 343: “also potential for ground level to change if the street has been reflagged/resurfaced?”
See comment to line 354.
- Line 354: “Could this be a change in footpath/road/ground surface height rather than flood mark height. I have flood marks in York in the Merchant Adventurers Hall that are now below street level from the 1830s.”
Kerbs in Germany are normally between 5 and 12 cm high, high kerbs can amount to 15 cm. Thus, the construction or renewal of a footpath during the 20ths century (after the historical flood marks survey) could easily have led to a small in increase or decrease of the absolute flood mark height relative to the ground level. We therefore assume that a change in footpath height could be a possible explanation for the small height differences that we have found for a couple of preserved marks, as explained in the previous comment to line 342. The significant height change of the marks mentioned in line 354 might have been caused by relocation, as explained above, but also a significant change of the base level cannot be excluded.
- Line 358: “You could consider adding a figure here with all of the flood marks presented and the relative difference based on current surveys. Is there a consistent reduction in level, or are some higher than previous recorded? If the difference is consistently a reduction in height then this might suggest that the relative height change is derived from an increase in street/surface level rather than a reduction in flood mark height. So far you have not discussed this - it might also help explain why the difference is greatest for older marks.”
We totally agree with you. It would be helpful to discuss this issue in an additional short paragraph. We could also add an additional figure to be attached to Fig. 5 (Fig. 5 d)) displaying all mark heights of historically documented and still preserved marks together with the local flooding depths of the current flood hazard maps. Regarding your question on the directionality of the relative differences, such a pattern is not visible. Marks that have not been altered significantly may be a little higher or a little lower today, regardless of whether they refer to e.g. the 1824 or the 1882 flood event. The few marks that have been subject to significant height changes and relocation (lines 347–350) are at lower positions nowadays but this may be a coincidence as the marks rather appear to have been relocated (compare Fig. 3, and the comment above).
We hope that we could adequately clarify the issues that you have brought forward. We would be happy to receive a short reply indicating which of our suggestions you would support. Thank you again for investing your time in our manuscript.
Best regards,
A.S. Bösmeier, I. Himmerlsbach, and S. Seeger
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-223-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Annette Sophie Bösmeier, 30 Jul 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-223', Anonymous Referee #2, 24 Jun 2022
It is a very well written article about the utility of using historical flood marks. It presents a detailed and well considered analysis of flood marks across three sites within a single catchment. It shows how such information for the case study can be useful to support flood risk assessments.
Before the final publication, I believe the manuscript should be subjected to minor revisions, in particular I only have two substantive points that I feel the authors need to address.
- Explain better how the flood marks can add substantial value to an integrated flood risk assessment. Can authors add some examples on how the flood marks can be adopted for flood risk assessment (e.g., validate total extension, extrapolate depth information, etc.)?
- Based on the authors knowledge, add a comment on the replicability of this study in another context outside of selected basin in SW Germany;
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-223-RC2 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Annette Sophie Bösmeier, 14 Jul 2022
Dear Referee,
we would first like to thank you a lot for your support in reviewing our article and giving appreciative and valuable comments as well as raising relevant questions.
Regarding your first question on possibilities and examples of utilizing flood marks as a substantial additional value to an integrated flood risk management, we would like to elaborate on some ideas. An integrated flood risk management, as described for instance by Merz et al. (2011), extends from a broad range of preventive measures to diverse coping strategies in the case of a flood event. In the submitted article, we have mentioned some examples illustrating the potential benefit from flood marks as we believe that the verification, preservation and maintenance of existing flood marks and, if appropriate, the installation of new marks can contribute to a number of preventive measures (lines 588–589).
On the one hand, plausible flood marks may be included in flood hazard analysis in various ways. With regards to the development of a basis for planning or for technical flood protection, flood mark positions and heights may be considered indications of worst-case scenarios and could be used to check the extent of the HQextreme in hydrological and hydraulic modelling (lines 493–496, 534–538, 583–584, and 594–596). We also recommend to check for systematic discrepancies between flood mark positions and heights and the current flood hazard maps. If apparent, understanding the origin of such discrepancies might help to improve process understanding and enhance modelling of extreme events (lines 591–592). Indicating possible flood-prone areas (by position, height and number of different marks and / or associated flood events), marks may also represent additional criteria helping decision-makers to decide upon building development in these areas or flood-adapted construction. This point is not yet mentioned in the article and could be added.
On the other hand, clearly visible flood marks in public space contribute to the information on possible flood extents, which in turn may increase the awareness towards flood risk among the general public and incite interest in the topic. Thereby, flood marks can stimulate behavioral precautions, information provision, and (personal) risk prevention. Moreover, increased awareness of flood risk may contribute to an enhancement of emergency procedures. Since flood marks can survive for centuries, they also play an important role in keeping the society´s sensitivity towards flood risk alive and establishing a long-term risk memory (lines 75–81, 550–555, and 588–589).
We have mentioned these ideas in greater or lesser detail in different parts of the submitted paper, such as in the introduction, the discussion, and the conclusion (e.g. lines 588–596). We would suggest to include a short additional paragraph in the discussion (5.2 Significance for present flood risk management) which focusses on examples illustrating the value of flood marks for an integrated flood risk management, if you agree.
Your second question refers to the replicability of this study in other catchments or study sites than the examined sites in the Kinzig catchment, Southwest Germany. Here, we are confident that many other sites provide the basis for repeating this study or some of its parts, which include the collection of flood marks, flood marks information, and flood data, the assessment of plausibility and preservation of the marks, and the comparison between flood marks and flood hazard maps (lines 584–586).
Flood marks have already been documented for many areas in Europe, as we mentioned in the discussion (lines 539–546). The abundance of marks and detailedness of flood mark information may strongly vary, but this does not principally preclude a similar study. For instance, historical information on the original condition of flood marks may rarely be as detailed as provided by the “Centralbureau für Meteorologie und Hydrographie im Großherzogthum Baden”. However, in the case of extreme floods of the past few centuries, qualitative information is usually available in one form or another, e.g. as reports on the flood propagation, extent or damages, or also as pictures of the water level. Such information can also help to rate the plausibility of collected flood marks and possibly discover strongly modified or moved marks. Thereby, the overall uncertainty involved in flood mark information of a specific area could be assessed. At this point, it would be interesting to examine regional similarities or differences and their potential reasons. With regard to the last part of our study, the juxtaposition of flood marks and current flood hazard maps, we also do not see any basic obstacles for other study sites. Since flood hazard maps had to be prepared by member states according to the European Floods Directive (2007/60/EC), they are available on a large scale.
We hope that we could adequately clarify both issues that you have brought forward and would be happy to receive a short reply.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-223-AC1
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